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Posted on: Dec 3 2017, 08:25 PM


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This team is just wow.

Srsly, how is it possible for someone to earn 100k $ / week and be this poor.

I dont think we ever were so poor like we are right now. I am out of words tbh. Shocked.
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Posted on: Nov 28 2017, 10:21 PM


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Suso on the wing without full back means we are playing with 10 men. No way Suso runs back for that ball.
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Posted on: Nov 28 2017, 10:18 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 27 2017, 06:20 PM) *
Weren't you positive that we would get better with time? That we'd have to be patient with Montella? Changed your mind at last?


True, until I saw that the squad didn't react after the wins vs Chievo and Austria. From that moment I saw that we need something to change even if that meant for us to get a less competent tactican than Montella. I think Gattuso can keep the spirit up until the end of the season, even though I think we might just become more caotic.
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Posted on: Nov 27 2017, 02:43 PM


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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 27 2017, 04:17 PM) *
Montella fired has less to do with Montella and everything to do with kicking the players out of their complacency. I saw the last game. I don't know if you can blame Montella when players miss sitters. Let's face it their GK was MotM. The players are the ones missing that extra 10% and firing the coach will send a message to the players I hope.

That said Gattuso was probably the worst hire we could have done. No experience. No winning experience. Seems a simple fan pleasing initiative and even worse apparently we didn't even have the class to tell Montella face to face. Sending a collaborator instead.

I hate to say it but considering the players we have brought in, the lack of tactical identity and considering we were not so clueless last season should it have been Mirabelli out and not Montella out? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


23th different formation in the last 23 games tells everything about Montella.

I agree that the players are underperforming and hopefully a new coach will bring the better in them. Personally I like Conte or Ancelotti, but I dont mind Gattusso till the end of the season.

Our problem is not quality IMO, it's mentality.

And lets see if Gattuso can solve this mess.
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Posted on: Nov 27 2017, 01:16 PM


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Montella off, now we can start commentary again. I'm glad. Nothing has been lost yet.
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Posted on: Oct 30 2017, 02:13 PM


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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2017, 03:15 PM) *
I think we've been playing better the past few matches. The two goals Juve scored were sheer individual quality. While our goals didn't go in because of a 'lack of individual quality'.

I think we should wait till the end of November before pulling the trigger on Montella. There are no coaches available who I want anyway and one month is enough time for a new coach to take a look at things and plan a market.

Suddenly not landing a winger and striker seems to have hurt us hard (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I hope we can land 12 out of the next 15 points though.


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Posted on: Oct 29 2017, 09:31 AM


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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2017, 12:13 AM) *
But you have to take into consideration that this is a new team. These players need to gel to form a team. That said, they played rather well tonight.


Im with you on this debate. Let's give this team a fight. Apart from Napoli, I think we will win the most of the games left till winter.
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Posted on: Oct 24 2017, 07:21 PM


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When Marco Fassone was contacted last summer by someone claiming to represent the latest Chinese businessman looking to invest in one of Europe’s most successful clubs, the likable 53-year-old, who has held senior posts at Juventus, Napoli and Internazionale, was unsure what to make of the approach. “I came into the project with some doubts at the beginning because I wanted to understand exactly what their vision was and why they wanted to make such a huge investment,” Milan’s chief executive explains to the Observer. “It was important for me as a European to understand what is the vision that Chinese entrepreneurs can have behind their dream. After month after month working with them, I started to understand their vision. It is a very exciting project.”


Milan have new Chinese owners but doubts grow over Li's resources
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It is now more than five months since Li Yonghong’s Luxembourg-based holding company, Rossoneri Sport Investment, completed the €740m takeover of Milan after almost three decades under the control of the Italian media mogul and former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi. On Sunday, Li – who has already spent more than any of his compatriots in a spate of Chinese investment in European clubs over the past two years – is expected to make his first appearance at San Siro since attending the 2-2 draw with Internazionale in April, when the seven-times European champions meet Cagliari in their first home match of the Serie A season.

Following a summer spree when Fassone and the sporting director, Massimo Mirabelli, committed more than €150m on players, including the eye-catching purchase of Leonardo Bonucci from Juventus, a 3-0 victory over Crotone last Saturday was the perfect start for one of Europe’s great clubs that have found themselves in the doldrums in recent years. Not since the 2013-14 season, when Clarence Seedorf’s side were thrashed 5-1 on aggregate by Atlético Madrid in the last 16 of the Champions League, have Milan played in Europe’s premier club competition. This year’s participation in the Europa League, after pipping Inter to sixth place last season under the current coach, Vincenzo Montella, is the first time they have qualified for a continental competition in three seasons.

Fassone says: “We are probably the most international club in Italy – Juventus has more domestic titles but European football is in Milan’s DNA. We are pleased to have reached the Europa League because it represents an important step and it will be a priority for us this year to come back on to the international stage. But the natural home the club has to be in is the Champions League.

“That’s the target that our owners have given to us. They would like to be consistently part of the Champions League in the coming years. They know that on the sporting side and on the economic side, it changes the life of a club – especially in Italy because the revenues are really impressive. We are lucky because this is the first season that Italy will have four clubs who qualify [for 2018-19] so the target is difficult, but not impossible. It represents the minimum goal that we want to achieve. The club is a giant that’s been sleeping for two or three years, but it’s like a Ferrari that’s been kept in a garage – you need to let a Ferrari out on the track to be free.”

While the arrival of big names such as Bonucci (£35.2m), Portugal striker André Silva (£33.6m), the attacking midfielder Hakan Calhanoglu (£22m) of Turkey and the Croatia striker Nikola Kalinic (costing an initial €5m loan fee with Milan obliged to spend a further €20m next summer to make the move permanent) has already raised expectations among success-starved Rossoneri supporters, questions over the sustainability of the club under its new owners have refused to go away.


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When promised investment failed to materialise, Li instead turned to the US private equity fund Elliott Management – which has been described as a vulture fund owing to its tendency to buy up debt owed by failing companies and states including Peru, Congo-Brazzaville and Argentina at knockdown prices – for a loan of €300m, with €180m set aside to help complete the purchase of Milan and the remainder earmarked for buying players.

Repayment of the whole loan is due in October 2018, with interest rates for the larger sum set at 11.5% and 7.5% for the rest, although Fassone insists that neither will be an issue. “We are already working to reimburse them and we will actually do this really early, possibly at the start of 2018,” he says. “The level of interest Milan is paying on the €120m is high of course but not terrible. If you consider the debt that Inter or Roma contracted with Goldman Sachs when they were financing, which was about 6.5%, of course this is higher but it’s not something terrible. For Chinese people, when you see interest on loans in double digits, for them it’s completely normal.

“In a worst-case scenario, because a lot of fans and shareholders have been asking me this, it means that in October next year, the owners of Milan will be Elliott.

“This is really the worst case but, just to ensure, the future of the club is not in the fog. No, 99% we will go ahead with Mr Li and we hope our project will be successful. But in the worst case, be relaxed because Elliott are not ‘desperados’ – it is one of the biggest hedge funds in the world that could keep the club or resell it. They would have paid only €300m, which is a very low price, and they can make business, which is their job.”

Yet Li’s approach has prompted a backlash from some of his new rivals. Last month, the Roma president, James Pallotta, was forced to apologise after he accused Milan of “losing their minds” in spending so much money at a time when they have such unprecedented debts, while a Sky Italia reporter was banned last week after suggesting the club’s spending was unsustainable.

“As you can imagine, I have a plan A and a plan B,” says Fassone. “To Uefa, I have presented a more conservative plan which shows a progression even if the club is still out of the Champions League next season. In that case, my investment in the market cannot be high and we would also have to consider a sale of one of our top guys. But we also have a scenario that says: ‘Marco, what happens if the club doesn’t achieve the Champions League?’ The investors and I want to be there but we are prepared if we don’t make it we will ensure that the club is protected.”


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In May, Elliott – who also have a stake in the French club Lille – listed two bonds on the Austrian stock market for a total value of €128m in what could end up being the first step in floating Milan. Together with a new approach to expanding their business in Asia that will lead Milan to set up a subsidiary arm known as AC Milan China to deal with marketing, licensing and commercial operations, pursuing a public listing on the stock market appears to be Li’s main tactic in his attempt to transform the finances of a club that had a consolidated net loss of €74.9m in Berlusconi’s last season.

“Before new business starts, you need a couple of years when you still lose money,” says Fassone. “This year and next year, we have forecasted more losses for the club and Mr Li is taking care of this. He has increased the capital and putting money in. The fans appreciate this man who is not so visible here but is spending money.

“Don’t forget this is the most expensive investment that there has been in European football after the Manchester United takeover. They hope in two or three years maximum to make the club worth double what they paid for it. But to do that we have to perform on the pitch and off the pitch.”

Li is believed to own a 28% share in Renshuo’s New China Building project in Guangzhou – a 48-storey development of offices and shops that is estimated to be worth around €1bn – and has owned shares in packaging companies and phosphate mines A photograph of him and his family watching the 3-0 victory over the Macedonian side Shkendija in the first leg of the Europa League qualifier on his iPad circulated on social media last week. However, despite his heavy investment, the billionaire has been conspicuous by his absence in Milan.

According to Fassone, however, he is in almost daily contact with his right-hand man, Li David Han, who “wants to know all the details of the club and all the strategies we are implementing”.

“For us in Italy, for our culture, it is very different,” he adds. “For example, the habit was to have owners and presidents who were very physically present: attending the matches, attending the training sessions, doing interviews. It’s like an insurance for the fans in Italy to know who exactly the president is and know what he can do for the club.

“To have a president that is not so present, that doesn’t do interviews and has a profile that is partially unknown from everyone, especially, at the beginning, has represented a partial obstacle with the fans. But what I see now the situation is different. The fans globally are really supporting the club and the new management.

““For example, on Sunday in Crotone, Mr Han Li was at the match and I saw lots of the fans wanted to have photos with him. At the beginning a few suspicious people were asking: ‘Who are these Chinese guys?’ but now it’s different. They know more about them and they see that they have invested a lot for this club. It’s not an owner who is coming in just to make a speculation, like has happened with other clubs in Italy. This is one who wants to make the club great again and is investing with his own money.”

But with repayment of the loan to Elliott and a number of large financial commitments from this summer’s spending looming next year, it is clear that Montella’s new-look Milan will be under severe pressure to hit the ground running.

“In the end it was our decision,” says Fassone. “We could have decided to sign three or four players this year and the same again next year, which would probably have been easier to integrate into the team, but with the sporting director we decided to make a big revolution this year. We know it may take a year or so to integrate all of the players but in this way next year we will be in a position just to change two or maybe three who do not perform in the best possible way. It’s a calculated risk, in our opinion.”

source: The guardian
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Posted on: Oct 22 2017, 03:40 PM


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 22 2017, 05:29 PM) *
The ref has been frustrating, but once again, this is all on us and Montella.

Had we been playing a half decent team, we'd be losing this heavily by now

We're simply clueless out there, we simply have no idea of how to break a team down, and this with basically all of our attacking players out on the pitch

He takes off Bona to put in Calabria now, what the hell is that supposed to do/change?


Bona got an injury problem.
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Posted on: Oct 15 2017, 09:12 PM


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Im done with this Bonucci.
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Posted on: Oct 5 2017, 05:27 AM


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I dont think X-Off his wrong about him at all. Kessie actually used to play as CD in the beggining of his career.
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Posted on: Oct 2 2017, 08:43 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 2 2017, 08:32 PM) *
The matter is purely tactical. It starts with the right formation, then the right players, and of course the tactics behind the schemes which only Montella and the players know.

If we're set to keep playing with a 3-man defense, then it's obligatory to drop the 5-man midfield which is only creating confusion.

Play Biglia-Kessie in the double pivot. Don't give to Kessie additional responsibilities that make him vulnerable to his deficiencies and flaws. His main duty must be to break down attacks and give that extra physically to our midfield. Play Suso, our best player, on the right-hand side of attack where he gives his best. Keep one striker, ideally Silva, and switch Bonaventura to the left.

Donnarumma
Musacchio - Bonucci - Romagnoli
Abate - Kessie - Biglia - Rodriguez
Suso - Silva - Jack


This is how we can get the best out of the resources we have. Then of course Montella must give the right directions and the players have to be pinpoint in executing what their coach asks them to do.


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Posted on: Oct 2 2017, 05:35 AM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 2 2017, 02:40 AM) *
Why?


Cos we are better than you are making it look and in 2 months the team will be enough comfortable playing together. I saw good signals in the games against Roma which makes me think that this team will only get better from now on and I'm not worried at all about current results. While someone would kill to have many of our players we are not pleased with them, even after knowing that we had players like Constant not long time ago.
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Posted on: Oct 1 2017, 09:31 PM


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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

EDIT: I will enjoy reading these comments two months from now.
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Posted on: Oct 1 2017, 05:16 PM


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Not so bad as for the start. Lets see.
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Posted on: Sep 30 2017, 07:39 PM


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I think we win.
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Posted on: Sep 28 2017, 09:55 PM


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Maybe we should try Musacchio - Paletta - Gomez pair in the next games just to be sure.
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Posted on: Sep 28 2017, 08:51 PM


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Am I the only one who is starting to doubt Kessie boy?
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Posted on: Sep 28 2017, 02:57 PM


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https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2017/09/press-...ti-part-company
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Posted on: Sep 28 2017, 02:21 PM


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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 28 2017, 04:13 PM) *
If our owners have any sense they will fire Montella and sign the new-available Carlo Ancelotti.

/the end.


I agree.
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Following the 2-0 defeat at Marassi against Sampdoria, Marco Fassone spoke to Milan TV. Our CEO analysed the performance of the Rossoneri and gave a constructive message to the team that he considers could and should do better. These were his words:

ON THE TEAM SPIRIT
“After this defeat, Montella and Mirabelli will review the tactics and technical aspects of the team. From my point of view, as an outsider, the thing that I disliked the most was the team spirit shown by AC Milan during the first 60 minutes of the game. This is not AC Milan’s spirit. There is a simple solution to this: we need to face each other and understand together that we are AC Milan, that we are wearing an important jersey.

THE POINT AVERAGE
“During summer, we were lucky to have more chances to play official matches than our opponents in the championship (Serie A) and Europa League. Now there is not much time, the competition ends the same day for everyone and our goal is very clear, we have announced it, it is to arrive among the first four. So far we have an average of two points per game, which is usually enough to make it to the Champions League. However, this year may not be the case, so we cannot be satisfied with 4 wins and 2 losses every six games. We have won 9 games out of 11, but in the competition (Serie A) we’ve only won 4 and away only 1 out of 3. We have to be alert and step up because our rivals are doing better than us.
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Posted on: Sep 24 2017, 01:05 PM


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If Zapata starts again for Milan, I wont watch Milan until Montella gets sacked.
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Posted on: Sep 24 2017, 01:03 PM


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Zapata <3
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Sub Zapata for Hakan and play 4-2-3-1.
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Kessie is nowhere near decent in this game.
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