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Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 27 2006, 08:37 PM

Ok. Sheva has decided. Now its to us to make the negotiatons as much successufull as we can wink.gif (why does nobody mention that in teory the negotiations can fail..?). There are some players who really are interesting. Honestly, although Lampard would be ideal for Milans defensive and offensive midfield I think he is not a realistic target. To bring Gallas is one imperative. And the 30, 40 or even 50 m. And maybe another player (who would then reduce the fee for Chelsea)...Crespo? Could be good, but a bit old and very near to the type of striker we have in Pippo and Gila. Maybe Drogba would be better, he wants to leave. And what about Essien? I think he is the perfect pick rolleyes.gif !?

Posted by: dst May 27 2006, 08:44 PM

No not Essien thank you...
and guys please stop saying that about Gila..he can play like Sheva (pick the ball from the midfield and go upfront,...) he did it perfectly in Parma when needed and he can still do it if we put him in that position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 27 2006, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (dst @ May 27 2006, 08:44 PM)
and guys please stop saying that about Gila..he can play like Sheva (pick the ball from the midfield and go upfront,...) he did it perfectly in Parma when needed and he can still do it if we put him in that position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope you are right. Indeed I remember him from Parma and must say he is not the Gila from last season at Milan. I can only explain this fact by telling that he is young and has time. Italian strikers often lighten up after their 26th...But it should not be a rule, I mean what is good for Parma, is not necessarily good for Milan cool.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 27 2006, 08:57 PM

No not Essien, definetely not.

I would say Ibrahimovic would be my first realistic choice to be brung in upfront, if not then Torres or Tevez.

Posted by: dst May 27 2006, 09:34 PM

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I mean what is good for Parma, is not necessarily good for Milan

Yes but Parma ain't got no Sheva (we don't too ...) or Pippo...It's difficult for a new player in such a team and don't forget the criticism Milan received this season..most of it falls on the backs of the new ones wink.gif

Posted by: Milanista NY Jun 5 2006, 12:21 AM

The best substitute for Sheva at the moment is probably Ibrahimovic ... he has the skills and would play well with Kaka and Gilardino/Inzaghi ... and above all he is young (24) ... if we get Ibra, we would have 3 young forwards who are all the same age... That's a great investment for the next 7-8 years (unless somone else's wife or girlfriend enjoys shopping in London with a Russian Billionare's wife) Milan needs to invest more in young talent like they did with Kaka'... they were the oldest team in the Champions League last year (probably b/c of Costacurta at 40) ... the only negative about Ibrahimovic is his character... we've seen him act up with Juve so he'd have to change that to be an even greater player, like Sheva... i just hope his girlfriend/wife would enjoy Milano... and the upside to Shevchenko's departure is the age factor... Sheva is turning 30 in a couple of months - his value will go down and a bad injury could risk his career.. I was very sad that he left but now we have to think about the future of this club... go to the young, preferably Italian talent

Posted by: Tess Jun 5 2006, 12:31 AM

[quote=Milanista NY,Jun 4 2006, 11:21 PM]
The best substitute for Sheva at the moment is probably Ibrahimovic ...

I agree....ibrahimovic is a great player smile.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 5 2006, 01:19 AM

QUOTE (Tess @ Jun 4 2006, 05:31 PM)
The best substitute for Sheva at the moment is probably Ibrahimovic ...

I agree....ibrahimovic is a great player smile.gif

He is nothing compared to Sheva IMO... Just take a look at his scoring record and then take a look at Sheva's... I think Del Piero is much better than Ibra..... He was Ibra's sub last season and not only did he score more goals than Ibra, he played beautifully as well!

Posted by: GULLIVER Jun 5 2006, 08:39 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 5 2006, 04:19 AM)
He is nothing compared to Sheva IMO... Just take a look at his scoring record and then take a look at Sheva's... I think Del Piero is much better than Ibra..... He was Ibra's sub last season and not only did he score more goals than Ibra, he played beautifully as well!
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Posted by: naurif Jun 5 2006, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 5 2006, 05:49 AM)
He is nothing compared to Sheva IMO... Just take a look at his scoring record and then take a look at Sheva's... I think Del Piero is much better than Ibra..... He was Ibra's sub last season and not only did he score more goals than Ibra, he played beautifully as well!
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delpiero might hav played better( but i think ibra played better last season), but he is old. i think his age is now 32. we need young talented guys, n ibra is certainly one of them. he can replace sheva in milan. like Milanista NY said, his disadvantage is his character. i hope he will change that if he comes to milan

Posted by: milan00047 Jun 5 2006, 01:12 PM

Sheva 's replacemant must be Niko Kranjcar(Dinamo Zagreb) or Ebi Smolorek(Borussia Dortmund) or Nicolai Dica(Steaua Bucharest)
or even Andrey Voronin

Posted by: dst Jun 5 2006, 02:00 PM

No Voronin is not that good but I don't know about he others...Welcome back milan00047

QUOTE (Milanista NY @ Jun 5 2006, 02:21 AM)
The best substitute for Sheva at the moment is probably Ibrahimovic ...  ... the only negative about Ibrahimovic is his character...
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so the fact that he scored 6 goals this season and virtually he's shown nothing in Italy isn't negative???Welcome man but I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with your first post smile.gif

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 5 2006, 03:19 AM)
He is nothing compared to Sheva IMO... Just take a look at his scoring record and then take a look at Sheva's... I think Del Piero is much better than Ibra..... He was Ibra's sub last season and not only did he score more goals than Ibra, he played beautifully as well!
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Yes Gulliver it's true, learn to like it smile.gif ...I mean he's failed in Italy whether you can accept it or not!!!!He's probably a very good striker but in Italy you have to be more than that... cool.gif

Posted by: 6290839 Jun 5 2006, 06:09 PM

Crespo. Huntelaar, farfan, Iaquinta, Rafael Sobis are good forwards to replace shev

Posted by: 6290839 Jun 5 2006, 06:10 PM

Crespo. Huntelaar, farfan, Iaquinta, Rafael Sobis are good forwards to replace shev

Posted by: GULLIVER Jun 5 2006, 06:19 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 5 2006, 05:00 PM)
Yes Gulliver it's true, learn to like it  smile.gif  ...I mean he's failed in Italy whether you can accept it or not!!!!He's probably a very good striker but in Italy you have to be more than that... cool.gif
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He is more then what you think of him I'm pretty sure wink.gif
He failed this season, he'll do good in the next one, and the other year, and so on... Luck, nothing more to explain

Remember he is still young. Sheva cam to Milan 7 years ago and he also had his bad periods.
Let's be patient man. He'll prove himself, believe me!

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 5 2006, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (naurif @ Jun 5 2006, 03:27 AM)
delpiero might hav played better( but i think ibra played better last season), but he is old. i think his age is now 32. we need young talented guys, n ibra is certainly one of them. he can replace sheva in milan. like Milanista NY said, his disadvantage is his character. i hope he will change that if he comes to milan
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Just because a player is young doesn't mean we have to bring him to the San Siro...

And to Gulivar:
Sheva became the first foreign player to top the scoring chart in the Italian Serie A with 24 goals in his debut season with Milan... And as far as I remember, he really didn't have BAD periods... Just a series of injuries that prevented him from playing... A complete striker is not made... He is born a complete striker. Ibra is not a striker IMO... He lacks the coolness and precision of a great striker. Ibra is in no way a good replacment for Sheva. Just imagine if we had him instead of Sheva last season... What would have happened if he scored only 6 goals instead of 19 in serie A? We wouldn't be where we are right now. Sheva's replacement should be a lethal striker. A fast and strong striker with a sharp eye for goal... A striker than can create chances for himself and also be a box striker when needed. A striker that can score a lot of headers... And maybe freekicks too(I doubt we can find that one)... We need a Sheva like striker, not some pesky wing forward/ shadow striker...

That's my two cents. king.gif

Posted by: naurif Jun 5 2006, 07:29 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 5 2006, 11:31 PM)
Just because a player is young doesn't mean we have to bring him to the San Siro...
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so u wud rather bring delpiero?? ibra has talent, n the fact that he is young gives him an edge. he can improve over time. abt his 6 goals this season, i beleive sheva had one season where he only scored 6 goals. n he is one of the most cool forward i hav seen. he can create for himself n giv key passes to his team members.

even though i say ibra is a good replacement for sheva, my ideal replacement for sheva is Fernando Torres. he knws how to dribble, he has speed, has great technique n can head the ball well. if we cant get him then i wont mind ibra being the replacement

Posted by: mishie Jun 5 2006, 08:28 PM

crespo or tevez for me.would prefer crespo as he has done it in italia before but tevez is younger. but 1 thing has been playing on my mind aren't we producing any youngsters out of the primavera!! surely we should be producing some home-grown talent to make the prima squadra soon. just a thought anyway goodheart.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 5 2006, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Jun 5 2006, 08:19 PM)
He is more then what you think of him I'm pretty sure wink.gif
He failed this season, he'll do good in the next one, and the other year, and so on... Luck, nothing more to explain

Remember he is still young. Sheva cam to Milan 7 years ago and he also had his bad periods.
Let's be patient man. He'll prove himself, believe me!
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Look I've got no problem to believe you as Ibra is not one of these players I just hate I simply think he's failed cause he was hadn't had a great year the season before this one too in which he scored 16 with no CL goals and he's great while Gila with just one goal up is useless???Sheva scored 10 goals yeah in the 2002/03 season but he had some injury problems back then...
This year it was not just his 10 goals, in most games I've watched he was really really bad...

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 5 2006, 10:19 PM

Yap, buying Ibra would surely be waste of money...
Now that Podolski is gone I'd like to see a young striker as replacement for Sheva:
Tevez: Would be really great, he's an instinct striker with a good technique and has the will to win (he even became the captain of a Brasilian club which is huge reagarding the fact that he's from Argentina and only 22...)
Torres: Great guy, buy he needs to many chances to score. But I'm pretty convinced that problem will be solved as soon as Pippo shows him how to do it biggrin.gif
Huntelaar: One the biggest striker talents at all, it's a waste he's not in the Dutch squad. I've seen the final of the U21 EURO a few days ago, he was great. And he can't be that bad scoring 33 times in 31 games cool.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 5 2006, 11:43 PM

It surely will be interesting to see who Galliani/Berlusconi brings in...

Posted by: Milanista NY Jun 6 2006, 04:40 AM

[quote=dst,Jun 5 2006, 08:00 AM]
so the fact that he scored 6 goals this season and virtually he's shown nothing in Italy isn't negative???Welcome man but I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with your first post smile.gif


It's ok - if we agreed on everything, it wouldn't be fun anymore... I don't think the amount of goals he scored this season is a good indicator on his talent and potential to do well with a team like Milan... I think he would do well with a player like Kaka behind him... he's good at crossing, dribbling, shooting, and heading... i think he would be a great addition to this team ... just b/c a player doesn't play well on one team doesn't necessarily mean they can't fit in well in another team... Adriano for example... I wish Milan can get him.. he didn't do so well with Inter but I think him and Kaka would play great together plus having his Brazilian compatriots with him (cafu, kaka, dida, serginho), would bring more motivation for him at Milan... Unfortunately, Moratti won't pull another stupid move and they wouldn't give him up for any small price - they'd want one of our stars and there's no way Milan is giving anyone else up at this point

I want Zambrotta and Oddo on the team next year tool (at least one of them)

Posted by: GULLIVER Jun 6 2006, 08:33 AM

Thanks Milanista NY. I was already so much under pressure. I can't stand alone against sooo powerful oponents sad.gif biggrin.gif

Anyways you said it very well - he is awesome at crossing, dribbling, shooting, and heading... etc, and you said the most important part that nobody else wants to understand, - he has a huge potential to show himself in MILAN, not in Juve but in MILAN!

And to Pkiller - I pretty much know Sheva's career. Yes he hasn't failed whole seasons, but he had his bad periods also and nobody, nobody and nobody is guarenteed from that!!!! smile.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 6 2006, 10:44 AM

QUOTE (Milanista NY @ Jun 6 2006, 06:40 AM)
... just b/c a player doesn't play well on one team doesn't necessarily mean they can't fit in well in another team...
I want Zambrotta and Oddo on the team next year tool (at least one of them)
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Well I get what you're trying to say..the whole Inter squad would surely play much better in any other team!!! tongue.gif
Oddo must be our RB next season!!!! king.gif

Posted by: Maldini Master Jun 6 2006, 10:48 AM

Maybe they could get van Nistelrooy, he announced that he wanted to leave Manchester United. He is a good striker for Milan.

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Maldini Master @ Jun 6 2006, 03:48 AM)
Maybe they could get van Nistelrooy, he announced that he wanted to leave Manchester United. He is a good striker for Milan.
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Too similar to Inzaghi... We need a Sheva like striker...

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 6 2006, 11:08 PM

Just throwing someone into it how about Riquelme of Villareal a great play maker every time I see him he never gives the ball away, yes he lacks pace but makes it up in quality.

Not saying he would be my first choice but just an idea, or maybe even the newly re-formed Van Der Vaart?

Posted by: dst Jun 6 2006, 11:14 PM

Wouldn't it be a risk?I mean he already failed once in a team with more than him as a maestro!!! unsure.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 6 2006, 11:54 PM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 6 2006, 04:08 PM)
Just throwing someone into it how about Riquelme of Villareal a great play maker every time I see him he never gives the ball away, yes he lacks pace but makes it up in quality.

Not saying he would be my first choice but just an idea, or maybe even the newly re-formed Van Der Vaart?
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These guys you mentioned are not strikers... Sheva was our top scorer and now he is gone... We need to replace him with someone who can play like him and also score a lot of goals...

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 7 2006, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 6 2006, 10:54 PM)
These guys you mentioned are not strikers... Sheva was our top scorer and now he is gone... We need to replace him with someone who can play like him and also score a lot of goals...
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Well done... christ I was only mentioning some players, ah I wont bother next time

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 7 2006, 01:27 AM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Jun 6 2006, 05:05 PM)
Well done... christ I was only mentioning some players, ah I wont bother next time
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What do you mean? You are mentioning players to replace Sheva... What do you mean you are just mentioning them?

Posted by: Bluesummers Jun 7 2006, 02:45 AM

replace that **** and fast before people get bought.

Posted by: Portikins Jun 7 2006, 03:41 PM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 7 2006, 01:45 AM)
replace that **** and fast before people get bought.
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I don't think Milan will buy anyone until the World Cup finish (09/07).

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 8 2006, 10:38 PM

Van der Vaart is a great option...should be really considered!

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 9 2006, 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 8 2006, 09:38 PM)
Van der Vaart is a great option...should be really considered!
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He won't transfer to Milan for the next season. He'll stay with the Hamburger SV next year for sure, they depend on him too much to sell him. Btw, the Hamburger SV just bought Vincent Kompany for 8 Million €...

Posted by: aaron Jun 9 2006, 11:15 AM

i think our we need to re-enforce our defence
with Oddo ,Zambrota and Gallas. our attackers are fine for
the next season or we must get Tevez because Inzagi is aging he will not
be good as he is now for the next 3 or 4 seasons

Posted by: naurif Jun 9 2006, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 9 2006, 03:04 PM)
He won't transfer to Milan for the next season. He'll stay with the Hamburger SV next year for sure, they depend on him too much to sell him. Btw, the Hamburger SV just bought Vincent Kompany for 8 Million €...
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there goes another quality young defender.. i wonder wen milan is gona buy some defenders wink.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 9 2006, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 9 2006, 12:34 PM)
He won't transfer to Milan for the next season. He'll stay with the Hamburger SV next year for sure, they depend on him too much to sell him. Btw, the Hamburger SV just bought Vincent Kompany for 8 Million €...
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A great transfer sad.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 11 2006, 12:06 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 9 2006, 10:34 AM)
He won't transfer to Milan for the next season. He'll stay with the Hamburger SV next year for sure, they depend on him too much to sell him. Btw, the Hamburger SV just bought Vincent Kompany for 8 Million €...
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...and lost Van Buyten to Bayern München! Maybe Milan should consider Lucio? unsure.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 11 2006, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 11 2006, 02:06 PM)
...and lost Van Buyten to Bayern München! Maybe Milan should consider Lucio? unsure.gif
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Lucio is great (much better than Cris) but I think we must get Oddo and Gallas instead!!!

Posted by: rangga7 Jun 11 2006, 08:24 PM

torres, daniel alves, gallas, the rennes young man. no doubt again

Posted by: shevchenko_007 Jun 16 2006, 07:26 AM

I would love to Torres is a milan shirt. Hes fast, technically good can strike a ball and young. He would be the ideal replacement for sheva.

Posted by: naurif Jun 16 2006, 09:57 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 11 2006, 06:28 PM)
Lucio is great (much better than Cris) but I think we must get Oddo and Gallas instead!!!
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i dont think gallas is comin anymore. i heard that he has been convinced to stay at chelsea sad.gif

Posted by: florenti1 Jun 16 2006, 10:21 AM

QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Jun 5 2006, 05:19 PM)
He is more then what you think of him I'm pretty sure wink.gif
He failed this season, he'll do good in the next one, and the other year, and so on... Luck, nothing more to explain

Remember he is still young. Sheva cam to Milan 7 years ago and he also had his bad periods.
Let's be patient man. He'll prove himself, believe me!
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Its true. Same thing hapened with Henry . Look at him now

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