Vieri, Zidane and Inzaghi being the best examples. Indeed.


Yeah, but Figo's transfer started the whole trend.

No, Kaka broke it by £8M. For a week till they signed Ron!



Like we did with Kaka! In fact, we did better than Juve - we sold a declining Kaka and got almost £60M for him ha!



Debatable. They're trash in Europe, and they're only in control of Serie A because the league is thoroughly weak.

Juve were trash in Europe under Capello as well. They were only good under Lippi in recent times.

We did nothing with that money, so the joke is on us fans

Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Tevez, Llorente, etc were all great deals

They could easily get more than a 100m if they sold both Pogba and Vidal, they got both for around 10 to 15m

Nothing is a stretch. We balanced the books...

Yes, you have to go back to 2003 for the last time Juve were a genuine force at that level, and of course they lost to us in the CL final. This was the beginning of Serie A's decline tbh and the only rebelling against that decline was Milan.

Nothing was done for the team, yes the money went into the company, but we had a rapidly deteriorating side at that time and had lost Kaka, and replaced him with Huntelaar to play him on the wing...

I don't think that's when Serie A started to decline tbh. Up until Calciopoli it was still a major force in Europe, not to mention created a world cup winning NT (mostly built out of the Juve side you're criticising)

After that, the demise started to happen, with Juve out of the way and Inter walking to consecutive titles with no competition in site, situations in the stadiums rapidly deteriorating, UEFA Cup sides didn't give a p!ss about that competition while the Germans were dominating in it to sneak that 4th spot casually from under Italy while their sides weren't great shakes in the CL during that time. Then the whole "FFP" thing and money troubles. It's just a hailstorm of sh!t that culminated after 2006

Yes we flew the flag proudly for a while but even we have struggled to maintain any sort of half decent record in that competition since we won it

I was being sarcastic.

Use a smiley next time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Tommasi spoke recently after the defeats to Juve and Roma in the CL, pointing towards a lack of project. He was referring to Serie A clubs in favor of short term solutions vs the longer term. And that instead of clubs placing the blame on TV rights and stadium ownerships, he says clubs should give more room to their respective youth teams to make the progression instead of bringing in a foreigner.

He gave reference to Madrid and Barcelona and how they tripled their income vs the reduction in that of Serie A. Which IMHO should not be classified as a peer comparison. He then referred to wages in Italy averaging 90% of income, while Bundeslia averages at 50%.

Teams in Serie A need to focus on a longer term vision to go back to where they were ten years ago, as of now Portugal is close to Italy's coefficient. Clubs in Serie A don't give youth a chance because of the risks involved.


My opinion is not far off, other Serie A clubs need to start taking a project to help build a new generation for Italy's NT and Italy's domestic quality. Yet that goes hand in hand with 'support', whereby the Italian govt needs to promote this league, without its support, Italian teams will be hard-pressed to stay afloat.

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FFS stop splitting hairs. Calciopoli was 3 years later. I wasn't being pedantic, I was saying roughly in the first half of the noughties.



I didn't say otherwise?

Isn't it great that Antonini had to be the one to do it? Love it!!

Although he did almost botch it, which is typical of him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Not splitting hairs, up until that point the Italian teams were still a major force, even after the 03 final.

But it's not about being pedantic at all. You said 2003 was the beginning of the decline - but on what grounds?