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Posted by: han2503 Sep 18 2013, 10:39 PM

Well, I don't have much hope for this one, and if we do play like we have been all season log we're going to face the first (of many) hidings we're about to get this season.

Napoli are doing some great things atm, their defence is sh!t but they're making up for it by simply outscoring the opposition. We need to play it tight across the back, tight across the midfield and we need to have someone behind Balo and Matri who will actually provide them with good support play so that we can counter well when we get the opportunity

The only one who could be back for this is Abate (thank God, no more Zaccardo, absolutely killing me to watch him out there). I don't think SES and Monto will make it here. Thankfully Poli will be ready to start this one so no Nocerino but we have to suffer a Muntari in there but that is something that is inevitable under Allegri. One of my biggest curiosity in life atm is to understand what Allegri's mind's eye sees when he's on the pitch... It must be absolutely amazing, Cristiano Ronaldo/Messi/Modric all rolled into one I'm sure

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 19 2013, 07:25 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 19 2013, 05:09 AM) *
Well, I don't have much hope for this one, and if we do play like we have been all season log we're going to face the first (of many) hidings we're about to get this season.

Napoli are doing some great things atm, their defence is sh!t but they're making up for it by simply outscoring the opposition. We need to play it tight across the back, tight across the midfield and we need to have someone behind Balo and Matri who will actually provide them with good support play so that we can counter well when we get the opportunity

The only one who could be back for this is Abate (thank God, no more Zaccardo, absolutely killing me to watch him out there). I don't think SES and Monto will make it here. Thankfully Poli will be ready to start this one so no Nocerino but we have to suffer a Muntari in there but that is something that is inevitable under Allegri. One of my biggest curiosity in life atm is to understand what Allegri's mind's eye sees when he's on the pitch... It must be absolutely amazing, Cristiano Ronaldo/Messi/Modric all rolled into one I'm sure


Yeah..not a lot of hope for this one. Simultaneously, we have Napoli get rid of their biggest player, and they bring in a fresh coach and fresh faces, and look at how quickly they've adapted to a new playing style. Looks like the coach is as big an influence on the team as the players. rolleyes.gif

In any case, let's believe the Signore. Games are won in the last minutes. Subs are more important than starters. And we shall happily win every match just like we did against Celtic. puke.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 19 2013, 07:31 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 19 2013, 07:25 AM) *
Yeah..not a lot of hope for this one. Simultaneously, we have Napoli get rid of their biggest player, and they bring in a fresh coach and fresh faces, and look at how quickly they've adapted to a new playing style. Looks like the coach is as big an influence on the team as the players. rolleyes.gif

In any case, let's believe the Signore. Games are won in the last minutes. Subs are more important than starters. And we shall happily win every match just like we did against Celtic. puke.gif

dry.gif dry.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 19 2013, 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 19 2013, 08:25 AM) *
Yeah..not a lot of hope for this one. Simultaneously, we have Napoli get rid of their biggest player, and they bring in a fresh coach and fresh faces, and look at how quickly they've adapted to a new playing style. Looks like the coach is as big an influence on the team as the players. rolleyes.gif

This is why I find it hard to swallow the BS the management keep feeding us.

Napoli don't regularly qualify for the CL, they don't own the stadium. But even though they sell their big name players, they very rarely make a transfer profit. We sell our best 2 players and barely spend any of it back on the team? Berlusconi needs to GTFO and fast.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 19 2013, 10:37 AM

Probable line-up: Abbiati ; Abate, Mexes, Zapata, Emanuelson; Poli, De Jong, Muntari; Robinho; Matri, Balotelli.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 19 2013, 11:17 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 19 2013, 10:37 AM) *
Probable line-up: Abbiati ; Abate, Mexes, Zapata, Emanuelson; Poli, De Jong, Muntari; Robinho; Matri, Balotelli.

Looks good, but Urby at LB in this particular game is just completely asking for it. The fucking obsession with Muntari is getting so old that I'm not even going to bother talking about it. After the terrible performance he had he still manages to be one of the first names picked in that 11.

Agreed kurt, I'm just so over everything. The biggest problem for us is up top and unless that changes the rest is going to stay as is

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 19 2013, 07:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 19 2013, 01:17 PM) *
Looks good, but Urby at LB in this particular game is just completely asking for it. The fucking obsession with Muntari is getting so old that I'm not even going to bother talking about it. After the terrible performance he had he still manages to be one of the first names picked in that 11.

Agreed kurt, I'm just so over everything. The biggest problem for us is up top and unless that changes the rest is going to stay as is


I think that's the best line-up we can filed right now. Choosing Urby and Muntari over Constant and Nocerino is like choosing the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 19 2013, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 19 2013, 03:17 PM) *
I think that's the best line-up we can filed right now. Choosing Urby and Muntari over Constant and Nocerino is like choosing the lesser of two evils.

I think Emanuelson is only marginally better then constant, and that`s not due to natural ability, rather the fact he's gotten so much playing time here and has that pinch of passing technique and decision-making that Constant lacks. Constant, i see as having more upside, should he ever get hot. He is stronger, faster and can occasionnaly beat his opponant in a 1v1 situation....

So in conclusion.....we really ******* need De Sciglio

Posted by: han2503 Sep 19 2013, 07:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 19 2013, 07:17 PM) *
I think that's the best line-up we can filed right now. Choosing Urby and Muntari over Constant and Nocerino is like choosing the lesser of two evils.

Did you see how Muntari constantly got skinned against Celtic yesterday? He's so slow and lazy!! I want to pull my hair out when I watch him jogging back. Add to that his passing is completely terrible. I don't see him as the lesser evil to Nocerino. Nocerino has spiralled down in these last 2 season but he's still better than this imbecile who's a complete liability in this side.

Constant defends better than Urby simply because he's had more time to adapt to playing at FB. I trust him more than Urby there. Urby just completely forgets that he actually has to defend and we're left wide open on his side every time. His shocker against Toro proved this. I'm someone who wanted to see us actually use him here, because out of all the positions in the formation we play this is the only one he can do anything good in, but he's just terrible defensively. Ask Fillipo as we discussed Urby playing here multiple times and I always insisted that this should be the only place where he should be played, but I was wrong. I think he can still play the position against bottom sides but certainly not against Napoli and their scary @ss wingers.

Our left side is going to be completely ripped apart if we play both him and Muntari there

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 19 2013, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:54 PM) *
Did you see how Muntari constantly got skinned against Celtic yesterday? He's so slow and lazy!! I want to pull my hair out when I watch him jogging back. Add to that his passing is completely terrible. I don't see him as the lesser evil to Nocerino. Nocerino has spiralled down in these last 2 season but he's still better than this imbecile who's a complete liability in this side.

Constant defends better than Urby simply because he's had more time to adapt to playing at FB. I trust him more than Urby there. Urby just completely forgets that he actually has to defend and we're left wide open on his side every time. His shocker against Toro proved this. I'm someone who wanted to see us actually use him here, because out of all the positions in the formation we play this is the only one he can do anything good in, but he's just terrible defensively. Ask Fillipo as we discussed Urby playing here multiple times and I always insisted that this should be the only place where he should be played, but I was wrong. I think he can still play the position against bottom sides but certainly not against Napoli and their scary @ss wingers.

Our left side is going to be completely ripped apart if we play both him and Muntari there


I just think that Nocerino nowadays is completely useless. With him on the pitch it's like we're playing with 10 men. Yes, Muntari is just as bad, but like I said, it's choosing the lesser of two evils, and in that case my pick goes to Muntari. At least the goofball is physically strong, can actually tackle, and he can even score once in a while.

As for Urby and Constant, I'm indifferent between the two. They're both downright mediocre.

Posted by: Danny Sep 21 2013, 03:08 PM

Quite simply we're getting our @sses kicked tomorrow.

Regardless of tactics or personnel we're playing Europe's most in form team. We will lose and we may as well accept that.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2013, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 21 2013, 03:08 PM) *
Quite simply we're getting our @sses kicked tomorrow.

Regardless of tactics or personnel we're playing Europe's most in form team. We will lose and we may as well accept that.

Yeah, I can feel the beat down already coming on.

I think best way to play it would be to park the bus and defend for our lives. Try to hit them on the counter when we can. Their defence is terrible and easily the weakest link. Reina is suspect as well. So doing to them what we did to Juve at home last season is the only way we can ever hope to do finish this game with any sort of result that isn't a spanking.

Is Abate going to be back for this one? And when is SES going to be back?

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 21 2013, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 21 2013, 07:27 PM) *
Is Abate going to be back for this one? And when is SES going to be back?

Don't know about El Sha, but Abate and Niang are fully fit.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2013, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 21 2013, 04:40 PM) *
Don't know about El Sha, but Abate and Niang are fully fit.

At least no more Zaccardo to worry about on the right, just the left side and nearly every other position in midfield and attack

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2013, 11:04 PM

Probable line-up: Abbiati; Abate, Zapata, Mexes, Emanuelson; Poli, De Jong, Muntari; Robinho, Balotelli, Matri.

Already looking miles better than the atrocity we put up against Celtic

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 22 2013, 08:56 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 19 2013, 01:30 PM) *
Berlusconi needs to GTFO and fast.


I agree with this. He has done a lot for this club, all of us are Milan fans because of his direct impact on the club, yet those days are long gone. He has a lot of problems on a personal level as well political. It would be best if he sells his majority (at least) to a new owner(s).

I am not sure who would come in, and I hope it is someone with the passion of Berlusconi towards the club.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 22 2013, 02:00 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:56 PM) *
I agree with this. He has done a lot for this club, all of us are Milan fans because of his direct impact on the club, yet those days are long gone. He has a lot of problems on a personal level as well political. It would be best if he sells his majority (at least) to a new owner(s).

I am not sure who would come in, and I hope it is someone with the passion of Berlusconi towards the club.

Who are you, and what have you done to R7? angry.gif unsure.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 04:05 PM

^^ It's about time.

Posted by: acid911 Sep 22 2013, 04:17 PM

Aye, I guess. mellow.gif I'd actually go so far as to say it's beyond time, actually. But yeah.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 07:05 PM

Abbiati; Abate, Zapata, Mexes, Emanuelson; Poli, De Jong, Muntari; Birsa; Balotelli, Matri.

Birsa dry.gif

Reina; Mesto, Albiol, Britos, Zuniga; Dzemaili, Behrami; Insigne, Hamsik, Callejon; Higuain.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 07:24 PM

Ughhh come on where is Robbie come on Allegri

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 07:24 PM

See I wouldn't mind so much, except I know Allegri will make the Robbie sub by minute 82 at the earliest.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:42 PM

Oh, so now not only do we have to accept the fact that Muntari is a first team player but this new obsession with Birsa is getting annoying as f@ck!! You have Robinho available yet you play the guy who couldn't even cut it at fucking Torino!!!

Just unbelievable!!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:45 PM

My heart is actually pounding. And not in the usual pre-match excitement but at the thought of the beating we're about to receive.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:49 PM

Anyone who tells me this isn't a 4-3-3 needs to get their eyes checked.

Look at how Balo and Birsa have already moved wide with Matri very central

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:50 PM

Are we seriously going to try to play possession stuff here?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:52 PM

lol, 3 passes and we're cut wide open

This is going to get painful, fast

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:53 PM

OMG!

Zapata! Wake the f@ck up!

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 07:53 PM

Pathetic stuff. Lucky not to concede.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 07:54 PM

Ack, Higuain nearly murdered us there!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:54 PM

0-1

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 07:55 PM

puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:55 PM

Amateurish stuff

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:55 PM

Why are we playing like this?? FFS we're going to lose emberassingly

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 07:55 PM

wow... i can organize and defend better

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 07:56 PM

Look, De Jong, the only guy in midfield and we're shredded apart. Muntari seriously needs to stay the f@ck back

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 07:58 PM

baaaalo!!!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:02 PM

At least we're creating something

Nice flick Matri

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:02 PM

We are looking a bit better. Our right side with Poli and Abate is piercing through.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 08:02 PM) *
We are looking a bit better. Our right side with Poli and Abate is piercing through.

The problem is that whenever they pass the halfway line we look like amateurs

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:05 PM

just lok at muntari's tackles ffs...

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:07 PM

Muntari is seriously crap.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:09 PM

Ugh, ref, come the **** on!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:12 PM

muntari is destroying everything ...

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:13 PM

Abate, is amazing on that right tonight

Doing better, but I feel we're going to get spanked on counters now that we're pushing up and chasing this

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:14 PM

we need to captalize right now napoli look under pressure and another patethic ball by muntari

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:15 PM

Muntari is like some chronic disease you can't shake off

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:15 PM

The attack is doing well tonight, Napoli is giving us space to work with...

But crazymilanfan is right, the play sort of dies when Muntari participates.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:21 PM

balo miss again.. he was quite unmarked

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 08:15 PM) *
The attack is doing well tonight, Napoli is giving us space to work with...

But crazymilanfan is right, the play sort of dies when Muntari participates.

Like I said; disease

At this point I'd move Birsa back instead of him and bring on Robinho. But that will never happen

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2013, 05:21 PM) *
Like I said; disease

At this point I'd move Birsa back instead of him and bring on Robinho. But that will never happen


I was thinking the same thing, actually.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:25 PM

offside but muntari had messed it up anyway.. i wouldnt mind muntari getting a red.. atleast he would be banned for next game aswell

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:26 PM

We've been better than them so far but that's mostly down to them not having to score.

But we just have to score while we're on top or we'll pay for it

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2013, 09:26 PM) *
We've been better than them so far but that's mostly down to them not having to score.

But we just have to score while we're on top or we'll pay for it

+100

and was that a PK??

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:27 PM

That's a penalty

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:27 PM

that was rugby kind of tackle

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:28 PM

That was a clear penalty. Jeez

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:28 PM

How the f@ck is that not a penalty????

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:29 PM

there was no attempt to tackle the ball at all there

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:31 PM

Balo seems to be injured

We're absolutely f@cked now

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:32 PM

balo down

Posted by: nuh Sep 22 2013, 08:34 PM

the ref doesn't wanna give us anything

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:35 PM

I don't think Balo will continue in the second half. Seems to be struggling with his knee

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:35 PM

QUOTE (nuh @ Sep 22 2013, 08:34 PM) *
the ref doesn't wanna give us anything

Seems like it.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:37 PM

how long is el shararway out for?

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:37 PM

This ref is kinda nuts.

As a whole we haven't played that bad... Shame we couldn't translate that into goals.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:38 PM

HT

With Balo most likely having to come off I'd bring in Robinho and keep things as they are. Balo is already playing on the wing, this is certainly no 4-3-1-2 and no amount of picks Danny posts will convince me otherwise.

Muntari just has to come off though, either bring in Nocerino or Constant or ANYONE really just take him out of there

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 08:37 PM) *
This ref is kinda nuts.

As a whole we haven't played that bad... Shame we couldn't translate that into goals.

Yeah, I thought we played decently but I think it's mostly down to Napoli being in the lead and not really having anything to do here.

We should have gotten that stone cold penalty though. I guess this is a bit of pay back for the ridiculous ones we were awarded last season.

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 08:40 PM

I'm calling it from now, Mexes bicycle kick 50th minute panicsmiley2.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 22 2013, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (jefri91 @ Sep 22 2013, 02:40 PM) *
I'm calling it from now, Mexes bicycle kick 50th minute panicsmiley2.gif


biggrin.gif Only you could my such a prediction. Good to see your funny @ss around here.. tongue.gif

Posted by: acid911 Sep 22 2013, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 23 2013, 01:42 AM) *
Only you could my such a prediction. Good to see your funny @ss around here..

+∞ laugh.gif

Posted by: nuh Sep 22 2013, 08:49 PM

Poli was Milan's player with most successful passes with 28. I really like him, but unfortunately he isn't enough today we need something extra coming from our midfield, we really lack creativity.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 08:49 PM



biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 08:57 PM

we r rubbish on set pieces

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:57 PM

Oh, great chance for Mexes, took him by surprise there though

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 08:58 PM

QUOTE (nuh @ Sep 22 2013, 05:49 PM) *
Poli was Milan's player with most successful passes with 28. I really like him, but unfortunately he isn't enough today we need something extra coming from our midfield, we really lack creativity.


Every time he touched the ball he cleaned our play. He is our best signing this year by far

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 08:59 PM

De Jong is everywhere right now

Muntari is just puke.gif

Posted by: nuh Sep 22 2013, 09:00 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 22 2013, 09:57 PM) *
we r rubbish

Fixed it for you there wink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:01 PM

0-2

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:02 PM

wtf...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:03 PM

near post ffs...

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:03 PM

Game over man , game over

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:03 PM

Wow, absolutely shocked. He's going to make an early change

Muntari still on the pitch though.

Robinho will be coming on for Birsa

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:04 PM

Here comes Robinhood, all flash no bidazzle

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 09:04 PM

You better enjoy the CL this year because next season we will be lucky to be in europa league.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 22 2013, 09:03 PM) *
near post ffs...

Abbiati let that go through him

He's been at fault for 3 goals already this season. Next summer we should make replacing him our first priority

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:04 PM

wow that is insane anyone for muntari..

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:06 PM

Muntari is putting everyone under pressure.

Balo yellowed because of his earlier stupid pass

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:08 PM

Robbie at the least works with Poli!

PENALTY!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:08 PM

PENALTY!

Brutal on Balo there

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:08 PM

PK

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:09 PM

Robinho has already provided us with that cutting edge we didn't have in the first half

Balo misses!!!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:09 PM

omfg

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:09 PM

Now it's a definite loss. For Balo to miss..

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:10 PM

F@ck this

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:10 PM

It's Balo's first miss in a plethora of PKs sad.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:11 PM

Took it too casually there. After his stop he hit it half heartedly

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2013, 10:11 PM) *
Took it too casually there. After his stop he hit it half heartedly

he laways doest that .. reina just read him better

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 09:12 PM

The sky is falling.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:13 PM

Reina is on fire tonight. Damn him.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:13 PM

Reina decides to have a blinder against us...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:13 PM

should have atleast 2 goals on a regular day

Posted by: nuh Sep 22 2013, 09:14 PM

instead of signing matri we should of taken 12 million and flushed it in the toilet, because matri is sh!t

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:15 PM

only if we had started with robinho instead of muntari with birsa or anyone for muntari we would have created and played with more fluency.. but neverthless

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:16 PM

I can't actually see us finishing this season ahead of any of the team who are competitors for CL and EL.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2013, 10:16 PM) *
I can't actually see us finishing this season ahead of any of the team who are competitors for CL and EL.

especially if the injuries continue like this...

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:18 PM

Lol, how is that Napoli's free-kick?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 22 2013, 09:17 PM) *
especially if the injuries continue like this...

The injuries are only a factor. The way we play and our lack of system and cohesion is our biggest issue

BALO!! Off the post!!

So unlucky tonight

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:19 PM

What are you waiting for to make a new sub Allegri? Napoli to score the 3-0? smile.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:19 PM

damn crossbar

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:21 PM

And he takes off Poli.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:21 PM

We could be winning right now considering the chances we had.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Takes off Poli to bring on Niang

Muntari still on the pitch!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:21 PM

ohhh poli off .. i have no words

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 22 2013, 09:22 PM

sighhhhh we should have sacked this buffoon.


He plays favorites like an idiot. Poli off seriously ? Not muntari whose lost 50% of all balls hes had? but poli the guy whose injected pace and energy into our midfield.

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:23 PM

If we don't score soon Napoli is going to score a 3rd

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 22 2013, 09:23 PM

Any coach that plays favorites won't last long. I'm gonna say this now but I have a feeling allegri will get sacked before january if the favorites game continues.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:23 PM

Takes off our only midfielder who's able to pick the right pass to bring on fucking Niang

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:25 PM

saved again

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 22 2013, 09:23 PM) *
Any coach that plays favorites won't last long. I'm gonna say this now but I have a feeling allegri will get sacked before january if the favorites game continues.

The problem is that he's Galliani's little pet, so he won't get fired.

We had the perfect opportunity to not only fire him but send him to a direct competitor in Roma. Yet we kept him while they brought in a coach who actually knows what tactics and systems are

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:26 PM

Reina has turned into Buffon tonight. Cannot believe this

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:26 PM

Well, here's hopin' for the last 15 minutes (where we always make our lucky shots)

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:27 PM

lol, 3 at the back, he takes off Abate to bring on Nocerino!

Just absolutely baffling.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 09:26 PM) *
Well, here's hopin' for the last 15 minutes (where we always make our lucky shots)

When Balo misses a penalty you have got to accept that it's not your night

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:28 PM

hahaha what is going on what the hell is the formation now

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:28 PM

biggrin.gif Balo trying to get a redo against Reina

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:29 PM

QUOTE (jefri91 @ Sep 22 2013, 09:28 PM) *
hahaha what is going on what the hell is the formation now

Yes this is what our coach does, takes off 2 of our best players but leaves on Muntari. Genius stuff

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:32 PM

lol, blocking our own shots now

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 22 2013, 09:32 PM

what a *****n idiot. his subs are truly baffling.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2013, 10:32 PM) *
lol, blocking our own shots now

was it muntari shot?

Posted by: jefri91 Sep 22 2013, 09:32 PM

Matri the new gilardino

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Sep 22 2013, 09:32 PM) *
was it muntari shot?

Niang shot, Matri blocked it

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:36 PM

Muntari... So stupid, it's unbelievable

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:37 PM

Every time Muntari touches the ball we lose it.

Another great chance for Napoli coming directly from him losing the ball

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:37 PM

Is there any chance for Monto and El Shaa to be back for the midweek game?

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:39 PM

Don't think so.

Reina had one fucking amazing game tonight.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:39 PM

BALO!

Great goal

Too late

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:39 PM

GOAL!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:39 PM

damn not that missed pk.. 1-2 great goal

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:42 PM

FT

Should have won it in all honesty

3 chances for Napoli 2 goals

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:42 PM

f 1-2 we deserved a point or win despite having a clueless coach and muntari

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:44 PM

Still cannot even comprehend that Balo missed the penalty.

I'm always so sure that he'll score any time he's given one.

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:45 PM

27 penalties in his career. ONE miss, and it had to be today.

And he got sent off. ********!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:46 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 09:45 PM) *
27 penalties in his career. ONE miss, and it had to be today.

And he got sent off. ********!!

Sent off??

When?

I shut the stream down as soon as the whistle blew, did he get into some stupid argument??

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Sep 22 2013, 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 10:45 PM) *
27 penalties in his career. ONE miss, and it had to be today.

And he got sent off. ********!!

unsure.gif when

Posted by: Linkman Sep 22 2013, 09:47 PM

Yes. Complained a bit to the ref, got sent off.

He then wanted to kick the ref's ***, and it took like four of our own to calm him.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:48 PM

How Muntari could stay on that pitch for the 90 minutes is a testament to the stupidity of our coach. Completely illustrated how out of touch he is with how things should actually be done by a professional coach and tactician.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:49 PM

QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 22 2013, 09:47 PM) *
Yes. Complained a bit to the ref, got sent off.

He then wanted to kick the ref's ***, and it took like four of our own to calm him.

Damn Balo.. I fully understand his frustration tonight as the ref was a complete d!ck and he kept getting hit today but he needs to mature and cut this sh!t out. Running your mouth off and complaining isn't going to change anything

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 22 2013, 09:51 PM

Allegri. Muntari. No game. Change. ASAP.

Good night.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 22 2013, 09:51 PM) *
Allegri. Muntari. No game. Change. ASAP.

Good night.

Still think Muntari is a better option to Noce?

Noce's 10 minutes or so on that pitch were more fruitful than Muntari's entire time on that pitch, not to mention he didn't put us under pressure countless times by losing the ball in the most dangerous ares

For me, everyone did good tonight apart from Muntari.

We didn't deserve to lose, but hey, we didn't deserve a lot of things last season and even in recent games as well, something like this was bound to happen to even things out.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 09:55 PM

Now let's watch Allegri bench Poli when Monto returns to keep accommodating Muntari.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 10:05 PM

Berlu should fire Galliani, Allegri and then give this team to somebody who gives a f@ck and go retire in some bordel.
Just week 4 but feels like our season is already over.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 10:07 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 22 2013, 10:05 PM) *
Berlu should fire Galliani, Allegri and then give this team to somebody who gives a f@ck and go retire in some bordel.
Just week 4 but feels like our season is already over.

8 points behind the leaders now right?

Posted by: Jack Bauer Sep 22 2013, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 23 2013, 01:07 AM) *
8 points behind the leaders now right?

yes.

Roma 12
Napoli 12
Inter 10
Fiorentina 10
Juventus 10
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Milan 4

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 10:13 PM

Very reminiscent of last season the way we're plummeting towards those relegation spots.

How Allegri kept his job last season, I'll never understand, let's watch another abomination of a season and watch him stay on for the entirety of it.

Guus Hiddink is available right? Galliani would be able to make up for every faux pas he ever made if he were to make this one change. But alas, he loves Allegri for some strange reason.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 22 2013, 10:24 PM

Every game I'm more liking the fact that I decided not to waste my time watching our games anymore.

I don't miss anything. wink.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 22 2013, 10:33 PM

I hope there was a deal between Galliani and Berlu that if results didn't come, Berlu could fire Allegri's sorry *** by January (and hopefully Galliani too). we can't go through another terrible season, it just can't happen! one bad season is understandable, but when it becomes two, three and four... you have to do something, even if you're Silvio fucking Berlusconi.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 22 2013, 10:33 PM) *
I hope there was a deal between Galliani and Berlu that if results didn't come, Berlu could fire Allegri's sorry *** by January (and hopefully Galliani too). we can't go through another terrible season, it just can't happen! one bad season is understandable, but when it becomes two, three and four... you have to do something, even if you're Silvio fucking Berlusconi.

I think I've put this thought out there a million times here, on this thread today as well. I just don't understand what the deal between Allegri and Galliani is.

Allegri is the biggest problem here, and for anyone to not understand this, especially someone who has run a club for over 25 years now, is simply beyond me.

Allegri should have been fired after letting Juve take the Scudetto right from under our noses, yet, it's 2 more years in and here we are, and the only thing that's happened is that we've regressed rather than improved.

I personally cannot do what you're doing now. I simply cannot know about a game we're playing and voluntarily not watch it. It's just not something that I can do. No matter how frustrated and disheartened I feel watching this team week in week out, I just cannot boycott watching the games.

In the next couple of weeks we have Bologna, Samp and Juve in the league before an international break, plus Ajax in the CL. If we don't get at least 6 points in those Serie A fixtures and win that Ajax game then there should be no more excuses, Allegri simply has to go

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 22 2013, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 23 2013, 12:05 AM) *
Berlu should fire Galliani, Allegri and then give this team to somebody who gives a f@ck and go retire in some bordel.
Just week 4 but feels like our season is already over.

Harsh, but in essence correct. We need a rebuild. Too much time wasted already.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 23 2013, 12:13 AM) *
Very reminiscent of last season the way we're plummeting towards those relegation spots.

How Allegri kept his job last season, I'll never understand, let's watch another abomination of a season and watch him stay on for the entirety of it.

Guus Hiddink is available right? Galliani would be able to make up for every faux pas he ever made if he were to make this one change. But alas, he loves Allegri for some strange reason.

And this is why he has to pay. I've been more then just willingly accepting Galliani's past controversial decisions or mistakes. But this is it. Berlusconi wanted a change, Galliani said no and negotiated his way through. Now he has to pay the prize for his consistent defense of Allegri; otherwise we'll maintain being a joke. A team actually pretends to play a 4-1-2-1-2 systems just to please the president who isn't watching the matches anyway...complete absurdity.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 22 2013, 10:51 PM) *
Harsh, but in essence correct. We need a rebuild. Too much time wasted already.


And this is why he has to pay. I've been more then just willingly accepting Galliani's past controversial decisions or mistakes. But this is it. Berlusconi wanted a change, Galliani said no and negotiated his way through. Now he has to pay the prize for his consistent defense of Allegri; otherwise we'll maintain being a joke. A team actually pretends to play a 4-1-2-1-2 systems just to please the president who isn't watching the matches anyway...complete absurdity.

Yep, it's just so ridiculously amateurish.

We start with Birsa as the supposed AM and as soon as the game kicks off you can easily see Balo going one side, Birsa the other and Matri in the centre.

Now we'll be without Balo for the next game, I seriously do not know where the goals can come from without him.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 22 2013, 11:07 PM

They'll keep Allegri and torture everyone until results come and we get into CL somehow. this is last season all over again IMO and that's why I won't watch the games unless I have nothing else to do and feel ready to get bored and frustrated.

Believe me han, I'm as big a fan as you are, but at this point it's become unbearable. it hurts seeing Milan like this.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 22 2013, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 22 2013, 11:07 PM) *
They'll keep Allegri and torture everyone until results come and we get into CL somehow. this is last season all over again IMO and that's why I won't watch the games unless I have nothing else to do and feel ready to get bored and frustrated.

Believe me han, I'm as big a fan as you are, but at this point it's become unbearable. it hurts seeing Milan like this.

Not implying that you are less of a fan (sorry if it came out that way), just saying that I could never find it in me to do it. Following Milan games is sort of a second nature thing, no matter how painful it has become to actually do so

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 22 2013, 11:17 PM

It's just that this season competition is bigger and chances are we won't get to CL. Hell, last season we made it barely. This one...Europa league I guess.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 22 2013, 11:17 PM

Oh, and new poll http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8260&st=0

Posted by: drucurl Sep 23 2013, 12:14 AM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 22 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Every game I'm more liking the fact that I decided not to waste my time watching our games anymore.

I don't miss anything. wink.gif

That's not being a good fan. Suffer with us or don't come to our parties cool.gif

In other news Allegri dry.gif

Taking Poli off- our ONLY proper midfielder this game was bizarre
Leaving Muntari on all game was ridiculous
Keeping Matri until the final whistle was disrespectful to all Milan fans.

We get that guys like Muntari and Matri aren't particularly talented.. What we DON'T get is why they could continue to turn in such pedestrian shifts and keep their starting berths cast in concrete

This should drive home the point that Allegri is an unfair coach who lets his own feelings and stubbornness get the better of him....When you look at how he treated Ronaldinho, Taiwo and Pato and then Matri is allowed to not make several attempts on goal for fear of disrupting his gorgeous hair, then you realize the charlatan this guy truly is

Posted by: Ry4n Sep 23 2013, 12:31 AM

Turned it off at half time and went to bed even that was more enjoyable.... i used to defend Allegri but these performances are just dire and its hard to watch Milan like this..we played like the away team at home. Also Balotelli is starting to get on my nerves enough pissing about with the bad looks and stairs play your game and screw them that way there is no point in fking about getting sent off.

Argh rage..

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 23 2013, 01:27 AM

Club is a joke from top to bottom.

The "best" individual at our club is somebody who most clubs wouldn't go anywhere near because calling him a retard is an insult to retards.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 23 2013, 06:10 AM

I sort of understand Poli being taken off. The truth is, he himself is coming out of an injury, and he is our only creative mid-fielder left. With our upcoming set of matches, we need him to stay fit and available. Plus he was on a yellow. On the other hand, Muntari is replaceable. Let him play the full 90. biggrin.gif

I'm not as disappointed with the loss today. We played with something approaching fluency. I would rather a defeat like this than the draw we saw against Torino. At least the players there showed something.

Not too much to fault Allegri over, since he did start with our best possible 11. I'm with kurt in saying the quality of this team is just plain poor. We have only player in this current lineup with any sort of technique and that's Balotelli. All the rest are side-show players. Even Poli is good at making a pass here and there, but he is no Seedorf is he?

Reina had a good game and his mistakes were not punished. All in all, if we can keep this growth(from our previous game in Torino to now), we might be able to still be in the running for CL places.

Posted by: drucurl Sep 23 2013, 06:21 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 22 2013, 09:27 PM) *
Club is a joke from top to bottom.

The "best" individual at our club is somebody who most clubs wouldn't go anywhere near because calling him a retard is an insult to retards.


It's called passion. You wouldn't know about it as you are possibly the most soulless entity in existence.

Balotelli showed so much PASSION for our team and you have the nerve to call him retarded? The mental strength required to keep plugging away....especially after the missed penalty and the extreme battering he got all game long???

Yes he's arrogant, a bit of a **** and his blood runs close to his skin...but if you can take that heroic performance today and still insult him then you urgently need to


GTFO

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 23 2013, 07:19 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 23 2013, 04:27 AM) *
Club is a joke from top to bottom.

The "best" individual at our club is somebody who most clubs wouldn't go anywhere near because calling him a retard is an insult to retards.


Since 2011, this club has undergone a lot of change, the same takes time for rebuilding a squad from its core. Or, you could do a City, PSG or Monaco and buy all the top players you can get. I have been saying this for a long time, patience is needed, as the club needs time. Hence I wouldn't look too closely at the results, as I don't expect much.

As for the best individual, I agree, he is a HUGE liability yet comes with IMMENSE potential. retarded is a bit far fetched, as he needs brilliance to deliver the goods as he has done thus far. Then again, we wouldn't be able to afford him had he not been such a hot potato to deal with in the first place.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 23 2013, 07:57 AM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Sep 23 2013, 04:44 AM) *
That's not being a good fan. Suffer with us or don't come to our parties cool.gif

In other news Allegri dry.gif

Taking Poli off- our ONLY proper midfielder this game was bizarre
Leaving Muntari on all game was ridiculous
Keeping Matri until the final whistle was disrespectful to all Milan fans.

We get that guys like Muntari and Matri aren't particularly talented.. What we DON'T get is why they could continue to turn in such pedestrian shifts and keep their starting berths cast in concrete

This should drive home the point that Allegri is an unfair coach who lets his own feelings and stubbornness get the better of him....When you look at how he treated Ronaldinho, Taiwo and Pato and then Matri is allowed to not make several attempts on goal for fear of disrupting his gorgeous hair, then you realize the charlatan this guy truly is

Ah, that "I'm more of a fan than you are" bullshit again? YOU need to


GTFO

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 23 2013, 08:51 AM

Aite chill out dru. You're starting that better fan than I nonsense. We don't need to start prick measurement again on our love for Milan, so drop it.

And really, you shouldn't be telling people to leave. On this forum some of our best posters are and used to be people who have other local clubs they support.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2013, 08:57 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 23 2013, 06:10 AM) *
I sort of understand Poli being taken off. The truth is, he himself is coming out of an injury, and he is our only creative mid-fielder left. With our upcoming set of matches, we need him to stay fit and available. Plus he was on a yellow. On the other hand, Muntari is replaceable. Let him play the full 90. biggrin.gif

I'm not as disappointed with the loss today. We played with something approaching fluency. I would rather a defeat like this than the draw we saw against Torino. At least the players there showed something.

Not too much to fault Allegri over, since he did start with our best possible 11. I'm with kurt in saying the quality of this team is just plain poor. We have only player in this current lineup with any sort of technique and that's Balotelli. All the rest are side-show players. Even Poli is good at making a pass here and there, but he is no Seedorf is he?

Reina had a good game and his mistakes were not punished. All in all, if we can keep this growth(from our previous game in Torino to now), we might be able to still be in the running for CL places.

We only played with more fluency because Napoli were wide open and there for the taking. Let's watch us regress back to the usual eyesore against Bologna when we have to break through a team that's defending with 10 behind the ball and countering our stupid @sses. It will be Verona and Torino all over again. We're just completely clueless.

And I'm sorry, but the quality of the squad is still good, especially for Serie A. There should be no excuses as to why we're not beating the likes of Verona, Torino and Celtic comfortably. Napoli are pretty much level with us in terms of quality. We have a better defence than them yet they're playing great football, they're beating Dortmund in the CL when we needed lady luck to step in to help us out against Celtic.

And how can you NOT blame Allegri for today as well? ONCE AGAIN we concede from a set-piece. How many times do we have to concede off of these to finally learn how to defend them? It's just mind boggling and Sunday league team level stuff and this comes down to coaching and drills during the week.

No Poli is not Seedorf but he's better than the Seedorf who played for us in his final years. Let's not kid ourselves. You want the Seedorf who could barely bother to jog 90% of the time? Poli is putting in some great performances, to discount them is rather daft.

This team has 5 (6 if Poli is called up) Azzurri players in it, players who got to the finals of the EUROs and are expected to do well at the upcoming WC, plus other very good players. To say that it's just Balo and bit-part players is an insult. The bit-part players are guys like Muntari and Birsa who are starting FFS. How can you say that it was a good line-up when he had Nocerino and Robinho on the bench who could have started instead of them?? And I know Nocerino is struggling big-time atm, but nothing is as bad as what Muntari is currently offering on that pitch, yet he's playing 90 minutes in every game.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 23 2013, 09:23 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 23 2013, 03:27 PM) *
We only played with more fluency because Napoli were wide open and there for the taking. Let's watch us regress back to the usual eyesore against Bologna when we have to break through a team that's defending with 10 behind the ball and countering our stupid @sses. It will be Verona and Torino all over again. We're just completely clueless.

And I'm sorry, but the quality of the squad is still good, especially for Serie A. There should be no excuses as to why we're not beating the likes of Verona, Torino and Celtic comfortably. Napoli are pretty much level with us in terms of quality. We have a better defence than them yet they're playing great football, they're beating Dortmund in the CL when we needed lady luck to step in to help us out against Celtic.

And how can you NOT blame Allegri for today as well? ONCE AGAIN we concede from a set-piece. How many times do we have to concede off of these to finally learn how to defend them? It's just mind boggling and Sunday league team level stuff and this comes down to coaching and drills during the week.

No Poli is not Seedorf but he's better than the Seedorf who played for us in his final years. Let's not kid ourselves. You want the Seedorf who could barely bother to jog 90% of the time? Poli is putting in some great performances, to discount them is rather daft.

This team has 5 (6 if Poli is called up) Azzurri players in it, players who got to the finals of the EUROs and are expected to do well at the upcoming WC, plus other very good players. To say that it's just Balo and bit-part players is an insult. The bit-part players are guys like Muntari and Birsa who are starting FFS. How can you say that it was a good line-up when he had Nocerino and Robinho on the bench who could have started instead of them?? And I know Nocerino is struggling big-time atm, but nothing is as bad as what Muntari is currently offering on that pitch, yet he's playing 90 minutes in every game.



To be honest, you're relying too much on hindsight here.

Allegri's starting 11 was the best he could put out. Muntari over Noce before the game performance was a shoo-in. Nocerino has been beyond terrible. The only reason he looked good last night, was he came on in the end to tired legs, and Napoli packing men behind hoping to hold the lead. He got plenty of the ball and was rarely rushed. Muntari had a much harder shift, not that he covered himself with glory. Robinho has been terrible. We saw it in the last game. Birsa was very decent in the game against Torino. And he was good again yesterday. He's just not THAT good. But that's the point I'm trying to make. Except for Balotelli and maybe Montolivo on the rare occasion, we have no one in the team who is THAT good.

Poli is a bit part player in the Azzuri. In fact except for Abate (depending on the formation) and Balotelli, the rest of our squad who started yesterday are all bit-part players.

Napoli and we are on the same level if we have our full strength team available. We didn't. This was our second string side, and we fell to a 2-1 loss, where they pretty much rode their luck a lot.

I still stand by my statement. I'd rather lose to Napoli like yesterday than draw to Torino like last weekend.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 23 2013, 11:01 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 23 2013, 08:19 AM) *
Since 2011, this club has undergone a lot of change, the same takes time for rebuilding a squad from its core. Or, you could do a City, PSG or Monaco and buy all the top players you can get. I have been saying this for a long time, patience is needed, as the club needs time. Hence I wouldn't look too closely at the results, as I don't expect much.

As for the best individual, I agree, he is a HUGE liability yet comes with IMMENSE potential. retarded is a bit far fetched, as he needs brilliance to deliver the goods as he has done thus far. Then again, we wouldn't be able to afford him had he not been such a hot potato to deal with in the first place.

Agreed. I think the club does need time to change, but sometimes it's hard to accept what is being said at the very top. If it was a case of us offloading wages to balance things out and get going again it's fine, but then the decisions they make regarding transfers don't make sense.

Yes Kaka' was free, but his wages aren't exactly small and he's 31. Matri is a player I like, but again, his wages aren't small and he took up about 90% of our transfer budget - he's nearly 30 himself.

Balotelli is massively frustrating, he feels like a red card waiting to happen most games and we can't really afford that.

@Mods, how many more warnings does Dru get? I didn't even mention him and he goes off now! laugh.gif

Posted by: drucurl Sep 23 2013, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 23 2013, 04:51 AM) *
Aite chill out dru. You're starting that better fan than I nonsense. We don't need to start prick measurement again on our love for Milan, so drop it.

And really, you shouldn't be telling people to leave. On this forum some of our best posters are and used to be people who have other local clubs they support.

Oh I'm sorry....didn't know it was cool to insult Balo by calling him retarded for showing some bloody passion

Oh and abandoning the team cause we're cr@p now is fine as well

Gotcha cool.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 23 2013, 12:03 PM

Says the guy that insults the coach on a regular basis. laugh.gif

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2013, 01:19 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 23 2013, 09:23 AM) *
To be honest, you're relying too much on hindsight here.

Allegri's starting 11 was the best he could put out. Muntari over Noce before the game performance was a shoo-in. Nocerino has been beyond terrible. The only reason he looked good last night, was he came on in the end to tired legs, and Napoli packing men behind hoping to hold the lead. He got plenty of the ball and was rarely rushed. Muntari had a much harder shift, not that he covered himself with glory. Robinho has been terrible. We saw it in the last game. Birsa was very decent in the game against Torino. And he was good again yesterday. He's just not THAT good. But that's the point I'm trying to make. Except for Balotelli and maybe Montolivo on the rare occasion, we have no one in the team who is THAT good.

Poli is a bit part player in the Azzuri. In fact except for Abate (depending on the formation) and Balotelli, the rest of our squad who started yesterday are all bit-part players.

Napoli and we are on the same level if we have our full strength team available. We didn't. This was our second string side, and we fell to a 2-1 loss, where they pretty much rode their luck a lot.

I still stand by my statement. I'd rather lose to Napoli like yesterday than draw to Torino like last weekend.

From my entire post there is nothing which is in hindsight. The set-piece issue has been there for years now under Allegri yet it's never been addressed, this season it seems to have gotten even worse.

Regarding the players. No I didn't need any hindsight to know that Muntari would be the biggest liability on the pitch or that Birsa couldn't cut it as a starter, especially not in our attack. Why? Because we saw the same thing against Celtic and Torino! Like I said, Nocerino isn't going through his best moment but he'd never be the liability that Muntari is, and Robinho actually opened up our game a lot, both against Celtic and yesterday when he came on, to play Birsa ahead of him as someone who'll start as the fake AM is simply stupid. These are things that anyone who's watched Milan so far this season could easily foresee happening, yet here we are continually discussing them because our "coach" continually insists on these things even if they aren't working.

The subs yesterday were simply appalling. He just has no clue on how to manage this team properly. And no, we weren't playing with mostly bit part players yesterday. From our starting 11 we were missing; SES, Monto, DS and Kaka. Yes important players, but even more so then Benitez for example who, if situations were reversed and he'd lost Insigne, Hamsik and Zuniga for example, he doesn't have the luxury Allegri has with the squad we have. Robinho is still a good player to put on and is a luxury that most teams don't have, yet he picks Brisa, the Torino bench player ahead of him. Monto goes down , we have Poli, SES and Pazzini out we have Matri. Allegri has a very deep squad, and even with all these injuries he can field a side that is better than 90% of every other Serie A side and the teams we're facing in the CL (Barca aside). Yet, every time it's the same BS with the formation, line-up and system. How do you expect the team to improve and grow as the season goes along when the coach simply has no clue what he is doing? Had we had everyone available yesterday we still would have conceded those 2 cheap goals simply because our defending as a unit is absolutely cr@p

Btw, from our entire squad we have players which are THAT good or those who are just good, but still better than most in this league. Abate and DS are easily the best FB pairing in the league. Mexes is one of the top CBs in the league. Monto is one of the best in the league in his position, Balo is Balo. SES, one of the brightest young talents in the league, Kaka is Kaka. De Jong, one of the best DMs in the league.

We might be far and away from the real super powers of football right now, but in this league, we still have a squad that on paper SHOULD be able to compete.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 23 2013, 11:01 AM) *
Agreed. I think the club does need time to change, but sometimes it's hard to accept what is being said at the very top. If it was a case of us offloading wages to balance things out and get going again it's fine, but then the decisions they make regarding transfers don't make sense.

Yes Kaka' was free, but his wages aren't exactly small and he's 31. Matri is a player I like, but again, his wages aren't small and he took up about 90% of our transfer budget - he's nearly 30 himself.

Balotelli is massively frustrating, he feels like a red card waiting to happen most games and we can't really afford that.

@Mods, how many more warnings does Dru get? I didn't even mention him and he goes off now! laugh.gif

Completely agree with you

As for dru, let's all refrain from calling anyone retarded and let's all stop measuring how much people are fans of this club.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 23 2013, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Sep 23 2013, 04:30 PM) *
Oh and abandoning the team cause we're cr@p now is fine as well

Abandoning? I read the posts, follow the results, watch the goals/highlights. I just don't want to go through repetitive sequences that's been going on for 3 years now. I don't think that makes me any less of a fan than those who regularly watch the games. my heart still beats for Milan only, no other team.

You sound very silly sometimes... I don't know if you're actually aware of that.

Posted by: drucurl Sep 23 2013, 02:20 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 23 2013, 08:03 AM) *
Says the guy that insults the coach on a regular basis. laugh.gif


I think it's fair to say that Allegri makes more stupid decisions, more consistently than Balotelli, who is just immature emotionally could ever hope to.

You only have to look as recently as our last game to see this. And then what does our genius coach do post match? Criticize him for his stupidity (rather like you are doing now)...because we all know criticizing your players in the media will only help your relationship with them and galvanize team spirit in general

Mourinho, Fergie and Wenger are absolute morons who persist in defending their players publicly all the time and placing the pressure on themselves....The genius that is Allegri has succeeded in justifying the decisions of a very poor referee, and will encourage other referees to be even less tolerant of Balo's inevitable future complaints.

Job well done cool.gif

QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 23 2013, 09:19 AM) *
From my entire post there is nothing which is in hindsight. The set-piece issue has been there for years now under Allegri yet it's never been addressed, this season it seems to have gotten even worse.

Regarding the players. No I didn't need any hindsight to know that Muntari would be the biggest liability on the pitch or that Birsa couldn't cut it as a starter, especially not in our attack. Why? Because we saw the same thing against Celtic and Torino! Like I said, Nocerino isn't going through his best moment but he'd never be the liability that Muntari is, and Robinho actually opened up our game a lot, both against Celtic and yesterday when he came on, to play Birsa ahead of him as someone who'll start as the fake AM is simply stupid. These are things that anyone who's watched Milan so far this season could easily foresee happening, yet here we are continually discussing them because our "coach" continually insists on these things even if they aren't working.

The subs yesterday were simply appalling. He just has no clue on how to manage this team properly. And no, we weren't playing with mostly bit part players yesterday. From our starting 11 we were missing; SES, Monto, DS and Kaka. Yes important players, but even more so then Benitez for example who, if situations were reversed and he'd lost Insigne, Hamsik and Zuniga for example, he doesn't have the luxury Allegri has with the squad we have. Robinho is still a good player to put on and is a luxury that most teams don't have, yet he picks Brisa, the Torino bench player ahead of him. Monto goes down , we have Poli, SES and Pazzini out we have Matri. Allegri has a very deep squad, and even with all these injuries he can field a side that is better than 90% of every other Serie A side and the teams we're facing in the CL (Barca aside). Yet, every time it's the same BS with the formation, line-up and system. How do you expect the team to improve and grow as the season goes along when the coach simply has no clue what he is doing? Had we had everyone available yesterday we still would have conceded those 2 cheap goals simply because our defending as a unit is absolutely cr@p

Btw, from our entire squad we have players which are THAT good or those who are just good, but still better than most in this league. Abate and DS are easily the best FB pairing in the league. Mexes is one of the top CBs in the league. Monto is one of the best in the league in his position, Balo is Balo. SES, one of the brightest young talents in the league, Kaka is Kaka. De Jong, one of the best DMs in the league.

We might be far and away from the real super powers of football right now, but in this league, we still have a squad that on paper SHOULD be able to compete.


Completely agree with you

As for dru, let's all refrain from calling anyone retarded and let's all stop measuring how much people are fans of this club.
you DO realize that it was Kurt that called our player "an insult to the retarded" right?



Posted by: drucurl Sep 23 2013, 02:21 PM

double post please delete
apologies

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2013, 02:51 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Sep 23 2013, 02:20 PM) *
I think it's fair to say that Allegri makes more stupid decisions, more consistently than Balotelli, who is just immature emotionally could ever hope to.

You only have to look as recently as our last game to see this. And then what does our genius coach do post match? Criticize him for his stupidity (rather like you are doing now)...because we all know criticizing your players in the media will only help your relationship with them and galvanize team spirit in general

Mourinho, Fergie and Wenger are absolute morons who persist in defending their players publicly all the time and placing the pressure on themselves....The genius that is Allegri has succeeded in justifying the decisions of a very poor referee, and will encourage other referees to be even less tolerant of Balo's inevitable future complaints.

Job well done cool.gif

you DO realize that it was Kurt that called our player "an insult to the retarded" right?

Yes, I realise who said what, which is why I said both of you should stop as there is no need to call anyone retarded or to start criticising people on how much of a fan they are

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 23 2013, 04:06 PM

Not sure why he has to turn everything into a drama, each to their own.

An expected loss whatever way you look at it. They're better than us anyway, plus with probably 4 or so starters out I'm surprised we only lost by 1.

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 23 2013, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 23 2013, 10:06 AM) *
Not sure why he has to turn everything into a drama, each to their own.
They're better than us anyway, plus with probably 4 or so starters out I'm surprised we only lost by 1.


I agree. I was surprised that we even put Napoli under so much pressure. I think they may have been a bit too cautious about us. Teams like Verona and Torini made us look amateurish, yet we looked somewhat decent against Napoli bar the first 10 minutes or so. Admittedly I didn't watch after Napoli's second. Just turned it off.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 23 2013, 06:32 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Sep 23 2013, 06:16 PM) *
I agree. I was surprised that we even put Napoli under so much pressure. I think they may have been a bit too cautious about us. Teams like Verona and Torini made us look amateurish, yet we looked somewhat decent against Napoli bar the first 10 minutes or so. Admittedly I didn't watch after Napoli's second. Just turned it off.

We were better than them, simply because they play an open game where someone like Balo is free to do anything he wants.

Had we had our squad fully fit we would have most likely won it.

But this does not mask our main issues. First and foremost, we cannot defend a set-piece to save our lives, we look like idiots against teams who park the bus and hit us on the counter. We simply have no game plan. Against Napoli the lack of game plan didn't really matter because of the aforementioned space allowed to us, especially someone like Balo who was doing whatever he wanted when he got into certain areas and could have easily scored 3 goals, even without that penalty. But against teams who will simply defend against us we have no answer. No idea about how to break them down. Not to mention that we let them clean through on break-aways multiple times in each match, thus having conceded 2 goals per game so far aside from the Cagliari match

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