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post Aug 29 2019, 12:45 PM
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Looks like the Correa deal has fallen definitely, Boban is in Madrid to negotiate Mariano Diaz of Real.

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Ridiculous. I'd rather stay as we are than sign garbage players.

Who would have ever thought that FFP would f*ck us so badly in the long run.
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post Aug 29 2019, 01:23 PM
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Is it FFP really? I question the whole decision making process this season.

Why have we left Europe? In order to sign Leao and Hernandez?

Oh and you seem disappointed. It was pretty obvious that we won't sign Correa. Perhaps there is still a little chance, but nah...
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On a brighter note, Depay being mentioned again...
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post Aug 29 2019, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 01:23 PM) *
Is it FFP really? I question the whole decision making process this season.

Why have we left Europe? In order to sign Leao and Hernandez?

Oh and you seem disappointed. It was pretty obvious that we won't sign Correa. Perhaps there is still a little chance, but nah...


I think it is. We've been on a leash for quite sometime now, kept pushing settlement agreements year after year. It was no wonder that at some point we'd get banned from Europe if things didn't improve.

I've been doing some research. Inter exited their settlement agreement with UEFA this May, and if you check their financials over the past few years, you'll understand why.

https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2018/10/26/in...-costi-perdita/

They went from having a loss of 140M in 2014/2015 to a minimal loss of 17M last year. Revenues especially registered an absolute record last year, 347M from 198M three years ago. And such increase is mostly due to commercial revenues (131M vs 39M). The Chinese surely have done their homework and it's finally paying off.

That's why they can afford expenses like 45M for Barella and 75M for Lukaku.

We, on the other hand, last year registered a loss of 123M, I think perhaps our lowest point since Berlusconi took over. Our commercial revenues are absolutely pathetic.

And it's not like Elliot doesn't have the money. They can pump new funds into the club anytime, but then we can't justify spending big sums within the constraints of the FFP.

It has completely f*cked us over.

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On a brighter note, Depay being mentioned again...


Never gonna happen.
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post Aug 29 2019, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2019, 09:28 AM) *
So, you're against young prospects like Leao but also against experienced, proven players like Sanchez...


You say proven but he scored 5 goals in like 35 for Utd. He was very good at Udi, failed at Barca, great at Arsenal, but that's all a long time ago. And his salary is actually close to the highest-paid in the world (400K a week, win bonus, sponsorships, and a £1.2M bonus per year just for being Alexis Sanchez). Not sure he can live on his past forever...

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post Aug 29 2019, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 04:23 PM) *
Is it FFP really? I question the whole decision making process this season.

Why have we left Europe? In order to sign Leao and Hernandez?

Oh and you seem disappointed. It was pretty obvious that we won't sign Correa. Perhaps there is still a little chance, but nah...


FFP was always going to bite. Milan for all its history is not generating income to match ambitions.

But all is not lost, Italian parliament passed the 'Beckham law' which takes effect in January 2020. It was implemented in 2005 in Spain and hence they got influx of quality players.

The Beckham law stipulates that any player/manager who comes from abroad (having spent at least two years outside of Italy) would be eligible for a tax break in salary. So the outlay that clubs pay players is less and hence are able to attract star players again. It has a different technical name but Google 'Beckham law' and you should get all the details.
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That sounds good.

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 01:23 PM) *
Is it FFP really? I question the whole decision making process this season.

Why have we left Europe? In order to sign Leao and Hernandez?

Oh and you seem disappointed. It was pretty obvious that we won't sign Correa. Perhaps there is still a little chance, but nah...

Agreed on this. We spent over 50m on 2 huge question mark players.

Why did we spend all the Cutrone money on a propect like Leao when we should have spent it on a sure thing? This is all very worrying stuff now with barely 3 days left of the window, it looks like we're going to end up how we are now, and with that performance against Udine looming large in the background, it is all very worrying. We brought in a coach that plays a specific style and have not provided him with the tools necassary to play that style, knowing he played this system before we even got him

Maldini and Boban are really starting to look like rookies here and having to endure another year zero, all while dropping out of EL to sign average players... Just disheartening on so many levels

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 01:27 PM) *
On a brighter note, Depay being mentioned again...

Depay should have been the number one target to begin with, he's got much better numbers than Correa and would be cheaper, plus we could probably use Suso as a bargaining chip with Lyon since they were seemingly interested in him at one point

Also, we're forgetting the fact that we're going to be playing a system that lives and dies by the trequartista you have and we're going to rest our entire season on a player who is inconsistent and not even a natural AM. This has disaster written all over it


Also, some news. Laxalt to Toro is a done deal. 0.5m loan with an option to buy at 11.5m. Another huge L for us. We don't know how to buy OR sell it seems
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post Aug 29 2019, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 29 2019, 07:35 PM) *
FFP was always going to bite. Milan for all its history is not generating income to match ambitions.

But all is not lost, Italian parliament passed the 'Beckham law' which takes effect in January 2020. It was implemented in 2005 in Spain and hence they got influx of quality players.

The Beckham law stipulates that any player/manager who comes from abroad (having spent at least two years outside of Italy) would be eligible for a tax break in salary. So the outlay that clubs pay players is less and hence are able to attract star players again. It has a different technical name but Google 'Beckham law' and you should get all the details.


Sounds good. Thanks for the information mate.
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post Aug 29 2019, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2019, 10:31 PM) *
Agreed on this. We spent over 50m on 2 huge question mark players.

Why did we spend all the Cutrone money on a propect like Leao when we should have spent it on a sure thing? This is all very worrying stuff now with barely 3 days left of the window, it looks like we're going to end up how we are now, and with that performance against Udine looming large in the background, it is all very worrying. We brought in a coach that plays a specific style and have not provided him with the tools necassary to play that style, knowing he played this system before we even got him

Maldini and Boban are really starting to look like rookies here and having to endure another year zero, all while dropping out of EL to sign average players... Just disheartening on so many levels


Depay should have been the number one target to begin with, he's got much better numbers than Correa and would be cheaper, plus we could probably use Suso as a bargaining chip with Lyon since they were seemingly interested in him at one point

Also, we're forgetting the fact that we're going to be playing a system that lives and dies by the trequartista you have and we're going to rest our entire season on a player who is inconsistent and not even a natural AM. This has disaster written all over it


Also, some news. Laxalt to Toro is a done deal. 0.5m loan with an option to buy at 11.5m. Another huge L for us. We don't know how to buy OR sell it seems


So true. We spend lots of money if you think about. But, we didn't not add sure quality anywhere.

Had we kept Gattuso. Brought in Bennacer, a talented winger..we would have been in a much better state spending much less money. But no..we want to play beautiful football..
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post Aug 29 2019, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 29 2019, 08:41 PM) *
So true. We spend lots of money if you think about. But, we didn't not add sure quality anywhere.

Had we kept Gattuso. Brought in Bennacer, a talented winger..we would have been in a much better state spending much less money. But no..we want to play beautiful football..

This. If nothing, Rino knew all his players well and knew what their limitations were

Sure he made mistakes and was limited tactically, but he played a system that was comfortable for all the players at his disposal even the limited ones

Now it feels like we're forcing something that's never going to be achievable with this crop of players.

Honestly, I don't want to blame Giampaolo. This current batch of players is tainted imo, and will never achieve anything. All of them don't strive for anything better, they're all comfortable where they are and that's the problem, we don't have players with drive and ambition anymore, before that's what fueled the team, even when players where old and past their best, that hunger to always win is what drove them, now, it's just a bunch of comfortable losers who have never won anything in their careers and probably never will

For there to ever be a proper revolution at this club, the majority of the players we have today would have to go because they are becoming cancerous to this club. I don't want to be this harsh but that is what I feel, just a general sense of apathy coming from all side, the players, the management and the fans

All the money spent since Berlu sold this club, and it only yielded sub-par players that have barely managed to bump us a few places up the table.
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I think the key ingredient is management. I knew from day 1 that Fassone and Mirabelli are bad choices but at least they had some experience. Maldini was a good choice but only as a second in command and a club face. I think he overvalued himself there. Leonardo for me did the trick and he was the only man I would trust to make smart moves (like Paqueta). But we sacked of all people him and brought in Boban on accounts of him being a club legend and a good TV critic. That's not enough. And the learning curve is appalling as well: Milan burned Seedorf, Brocchi, Inzaghi and Gattuso as team coaches. What have we learned? Nothing. We just added a bunch of other legends into the mix, now as directors.
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Man, the negativity in here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Let's be a bit more patient. I get your frustration and pessimism, but the season has barely started, and the Udine game shouldn't be a real indicator cos we were playing an abomination of a line-up.
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Yeah, yeah - Bennacer and Leao weren't in the first team.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2019, 07:02 PM) *
Man, the negativity in here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Let's be a bit more patient. I get your frustration and pessimism, but the season has barely started, and the Udine game shouldn't be a real indicator cos we were playing an abomination of a line-up.

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 29 2019, 07:32 PM) *
Yeah, yeah - Bennacer and Leao weren't in the first team.

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neither was our starting LB (Hernandez).
neither were either of our hopeful starting CBs (re: Caldara / Duarte).
nor was Bonaventura.
Borini was started... Back up material
Castijello was started (should be sold)

There were so many things which could still very much be easily improved upon.

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