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Posted by: misha Aug 18 2006, 07:30 PM
I found a great article about Franco in Football Italia from 6 years ago. I was fortunate enough to see him playing few years before his retirement and he is definitely, by far ,my favorite player. He represents the true Milan spirit. Enjoy!
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Golden Great: Franco Baresi
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Forwards get the glory but it is an unwritten law of the game that the best sides are built from the back. And according to Giancarlo Rinaldi, nobody makes that argument more eloquently than Franco Baresi
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Il Capitano
Franco Baresi was the heart of the Milan back line for so long that to this day Billy Costacurta still seems to be busy looking round for him. The word ‘influential’ barely does justice to his role in the Rossoneri’s most successful side. No wonder they didn’t dare pass on the No 6 shirt after he retired.
But success did not come overnight to the man known simply as ‘Il Capitano.’ Indeed, it was his battles with adversity which turned him into such an uncompromising opponent. His performance in brushing off injury to return for the World Cup Final in 1994 was typical of the man. Anyone who knew him would have expected nothing less.
Just the name of Baresi’s birthplace, Travagliato, meaning troubled says much about his upbringing. His mother died when he was 13 and his father passed away four years later. Along with brother Giuseppe, he was effectively brought up by his sister, Lucia. They were tough times just to keep the family going.
And on the field of play life also liked to throw more difficulties than rewards in the direction of the talented youngster. As a boy he was passed over by Inter who preferred to sign up older brother Beppe. Even Milan turned him down after two trials before he finally made it on the third attempt at the age of 14.
It was 1978, as an 18-year-old, that he made his debut for the Rossoneri and the following season he played a major part in taking Milan to their tenth title. It was the end of Gianni Rivera’s era at the club. Little did they suspect they had found another ‘bandiera’ - the Italian term for a player who comes to symbolise the side he plays for.
After this impressive start there were more testing times to come as Milan went through the ignominy of relegation for their part in a corruption scandal rocking the Italian game in 1980. Two years later and the side from the San Siro were back in Serie B again - this time just because they were really not very good.
These were bleak times for the Lombardy giants which more recent converts to that faith may not properly appreciate. Ambition at the Rossonero training ground in those days was little more than dreaming of a UEFA Cup spot. It was Inter, not Milan, who were lords and masters of the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.
It says much about Baresi that he came through this and was still part of the World Cup winning squad in 1982. Although his path to the first team was blocked by that other elegant libero Gaetano Scirea, it was clear his time would come. After the disastrous Mexican World Cup campaign in 1986 he got his chance and never looked back.
It was at the same time that Silvio Berlusconi took over at Milan and the club’s fortunes started to rocket. After a couple of strange signings things started to click and his side swept all before them. Franco Baresi was the conductor of some of the sweetest footballing music ever made. When the Milan defence swarmed over an opposition striker it seemed as if they had extra players on the pitch.
Baresi could time a tackle better than anyone in the game and combined that with a sharp professional brain gave him the ability to foul and get away with it. Add to that the invisible thread which seemed to link his arm to the linesman’s flag and you had one of the most complete defenders the game has ever seen.
Honours came flooding his way and few players have deserved them more. Six League titles, three European Cups, three European Super Cups, two Intercontinental Cups and four Italian Super Cups are a pretty impressive haul. By 1997 he had realised the only way was down and decided to hang up his boots after 716 games for his club and 81 for his country.
Looking back over his glorious career he had little doubt about the best and worst moments. Everyone who watched him scale the heights of the world game would have probably chosen exactly the same ones. As football coverage threatens to reach saturation point Baresi was involved in some of the games most gripping televisual moments.
"The most beautiful and exciting moments of my career were winning the first European Cup and the first Intercontinental Cup," he said. "Knowing you are the best team in the world is a truly exhilarating experience. But I also think the Italy-Brazil World Cup Final was one of my best games, especially since it came after an injury and not even I knew if I would make it through the match," he added. "It is just a shame how the match finished. At that moment I felt as if my world had fallen in. When you get to the World Cup Final losing on penalties makes you feel powerless."
The tears he wept were shed by the whole of Italy and Milan supporters were equally inconsolable when he announced his retirement a few years later. There was not a dry eye in the house as he bid his farewell after 23 unforgettable years.
"Let us just say I’m giving up because I’m not as young as I used to be," he told his fans. "Now I have got a role as Vice-President with the task of looking after the youth side and keeping an eye out for new talent. For the time being I have no desire to be a Coach but in future who knows? I’m happy with my new post and I’ll try to help the club even though I’m no longer playing."
Nowadays Baresi is busy unearthing the new talent to make Milan a similar force at the start of this decade as they were in the last. He should certainly know a thing or two about what makes a great footballer. And if he can discover just one player anything like himself the Rossoneri will have plenty to thank him for.
STAR RATING 9/10 An inspirational leader and outstanding defender, he was the lynchpin of one of the strongest defences in the history of the game. Fast, powerful and intelligent he was the prototype of everything the modern sweeper needs to be.
Franco Baresi
Club: Milan
Born: Travagliato (Brescia), 8/5/60
Position: Defender
Ht/Wt: 1.76m/70kg
Serie A debut: Verona 1-2 Milan, 23/4/78
International debut: Italy 0-0 Romania, 4/12/82
Club: Milan
International caps: 81
International goals: 1
Honours:
6 Scudetto (1979, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996)
3 European Cups (1989, 1990, 1994)
3 European Super Cups (1989, 1990, 1994)
2 Intercontinental Cups (1989, 1990)
4 Italian Super Cups (1989, 1993, 1994, 1995)
World Cup runner-up (1994)
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Forwards get the glory but it is an unwritten law of the game that the best sides are built from the back. And according to Giancarlo Rinaldi, nobody makes that argument more eloquently than Franco Baresi
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Il Capitano
Franco Baresi was the heart of the Milan back line for so long that to this day Billy Costacurta still seems to be busy looking round for him. The word ‘influential’ barely does justice to his role in the Rossoneri’s most successful side. No wonder they didn’t dare pass on the No 6 shirt after he retired.
But success did not come overnight to the man known simply as ‘Il Capitano.’ Indeed, it was his battles with adversity which turned him into such an uncompromising opponent. His performance in brushing off injury to return for the World Cup Final in 1994 was typical of the man. Anyone who knew him would have expected nothing less.
Just the name of Baresi’s birthplace, Travagliato, meaning troubled says much about his upbringing. His mother died when he was 13 and his father passed away four years later. Along with brother Giuseppe, he was effectively brought up by his sister, Lucia. They were tough times just to keep the family going.
And on the field of play life also liked to throw more difficulties than rewards in the direction of the talented youngster. As a boy he was passed over by Inter who preferred to sign up older brother Beppe. Even Milan turned him down after two trials before he finally made it on the third attempt at the age of 14.
It was 1978, as an 18-year-old, that he made his debut for the Rossoneri and the following season he played a major part in taking Milan to their tenth title. It was the end of Gianni Rivera’s era at the club. Little did they suspect they had found another ‘bandiera’ - the Italian term for a player who comes to symbolise the side he plays for.
After this impressive start there were more testing times to come as Milan went through the ignominy of relegation for their part in a corruption scandal rocking the Italian game in 1980. Two years later and the side from the San Siro were back in Serie B again - this time just because they were really not very good.
These were bleak times for the Lombardy giants which more recent converts to that faith may not properly appreciate. Ambition at the Rossonero training ground in those days was little more than dreaming of a UEFA Cup spot. It was Inter, not Milan, who were lords and masters of the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.
It says much about Baresi that he came through this and was still part of the World Cup winning squad in 1982. Although his path to the first team was blocked by that other elegant libero Gaetano Scirea, it was clear his time would come. After the disastrous Mexican World Cup campaign in 1986 he got his chance and never looked back.
It was at the same time that Silvio Berlusconi took over at Milan and the club’s fortunes started to rocket. After a couple of strange signings things started to click and his side swept all before them. Franco Baresi was the conductor of some of the sweetest footballing music ever made. When the Milan defence swarmed over an opposition striker it seemed as if they had extra players on the pitch.
Baresi could time a tackle better than anyone in the game and combined that with a sharp professional brain gave him the ability to foul and get away with it. Add to that the invisible thread which seemed to link his arm to the linesman’s flag and you had one of the most complete defenders the game has ever seen.
Honours came flooding his way and few players have deserved them more. Six League titles, three European Cups, three European Super Cups, two Intercontinental Cups and four Italian Super Cups are a pretty impressive haul. By 1997 he had realised the only way was down and decided to hang up his boots after 716 games for his club and 81 for his country.
Looking back over his glorious career he had little doubt about the best and worst moments. Everyone who watched him scale the heights of the world game would have probably chosen exactly the same ones. As football coverage threatens to reach saturation point Baresi was involved in some of the games most gripping televisual moments.
"The most beautiful and exciting moments of my career were winning the first European Cup and the first Intercontinental Cup," he said. "Knowing you are the best team in the world is a truly exhilarating experience. But I also think the Italy-Brazil World Cup Final was one of my best games, especially since it came after an injury and not even I knew if I would make it through the match," he added. "It is just a shame how the match finished. At that moment I felt as if my world had fallen in. When you get to the World Cup Final losing on penalties makes you feel powerless."
The tears he wept were shed by the whole of Italy and Milan supporters were equally inconsolable when he announced his retirement a few years later. There was not a dry eye in the house as he bid his farewell after 23 unforgettable years.
"Let us just say I’m giving up because I’m not as young as I used to be," he told his fans. "Now I have got a role as Vice-President with the task of looking after the youth side and keeping an eye out for new talent. For the time being I have no desire to be a Coach but in future who knows? I’m happy with my new post and I’ll try to help the club even though I’m no longer playing."
Nowadays Baresi is busy unearthing the new talent to make Milan a similar force at the start of this decade as they were in the last. He should certainly know a thing or two about what makes a great footballer. And if he can discover just one player anything like himself the Rossoneri will have plenty to thank him for.
STAR RATING 9/10 An inspirational leader and outstanding defender, he was the lynchpin of one of the strongest defences in the history of the game. Fast, powerful and intelligent he was the prototype of everything the modern sweeper needs to be.
Franco Baresi
Club: Milan
Born: Travagliato (Brescia), 8/5/60
Position: Defender
Ht/Wt: 1.76m/70kg
Serie A debut: Verona 1-2 Milan, 23/4/78
International debut: Italy 0-0 Romania, 4/12/82
Club: Milan
International caps: 81
International goals: 1
Honours:
6 Scudetto (1979, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996)
3 European Cups (1989, 1990, 1994)
3 European Super Cups (1989, 1990, 1994)
2 Intercontinental Cups (1989, 1990)
4 Italian Super Cups (1989, 1993, 1994, 1995)
World Cup runner-up (1994)
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 18 2006, 09:03 PM
great read. I knew he was a great, I've never had the fortune to see him play though.
Posted by: dudernahata Aug 18 2006, 09:06 PM
barsei was a great player and captain. the best centre defender ever.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 18 2006, 10:57 PM
Thanx for that ..
Yea he was the 'best defender of his time' .. I think the likes of Maldini and Costacurta are the only ones whom follow his foot steps, so it's going to be a looong time till we see anyone with such influence as Baresi, Costacurta, & Maldini. To be raised and end their respected careers in one great club is something to be recognized 
Posted by: amancik Aug 19 2006, 12:29 AM
no doubt about that ... Baresi the legend of all defenders ... soon he will be joined by Paolo Maldini ...
hey, now that you mention Baresi, do you know any players who played for one club only ...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 19 2006, 12:46 PM
Uhm...Maldini(duh!!), Raul...he started off in the Atletico Youth i think but does that count? What about Pele?? Has he played for any club other than Santos?
Posted by: misha Aug 19 2006, 05:38 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 19 2006, 01:46 PM)
What about Pele?? Has he played for any club other than Santos?
He played for american club "Cosmos"
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 19 2006, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 18 2006, 11:29 PM)
hey, now that you mention Baresi, do you know any players who played for one club only ...
Sure...former german international Marco Bode spent his whole career with Werder Bremen. And Paul Scholes...so far. Oh and the barely known Lars Ricken who played his whole career for Borussia Dortmund.
Posted by: Costacurta Aug 20 2006, 03:15 PM
Lars Ricken, I know him, he came on as a sub and lobbed Peruzzi in the final of the CL for Dortmund in 97 I think. My earliest memories of European football were the days when Borussia Dortmund were all-powerful and widely feared. I think it was becuase they had a lot of the players that made up the efficient Germany side that won Euro 96, like Hassler, Moller, Sammer etc.
Tony Adams only ever played for Arsenal. Billy himself has only been on loan for one season to Monza. And I think Bergomi only ever played for the Merde.
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 08:27 AM
QUOTE (dudernahata @ Aug 19 2006, 12:06 AM)
barsei was a great player and captain. the best centre defender ever.
Don't forget about Cannavaro. He is somebody also..
Posted by: misha Aug 22 2006, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 22 2006, 09:27 AM)
Don't forget about Cannavaro. He is somebody also..
Cannavaro is good but he is no equal to Franco.
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 02:04 PM
QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 22 2006, 04:36 PM)
Cannavaro is good but he is no equal to Franco.
I'm not saying he is equal to anybody. I'm saying don't forget him when you mention such defenders as Baresi, Maldini and Nesta
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 02:25 PM
Yep, Cannavaro is very good, we all saw him in the World Cup. But I can't stand his smile, makes me want to squash him like a bug.
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 22 2006, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 22 2006, 01:04 PM)
I'm not saying he is equal to anybody. I'm saying don't forget him when you mention such defenders as Baresi, Maldini and Nesta
You surely can compare him to Nesta, but Baresi and Maldini are above them. They are legends.
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 07:16 PM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 22 2006, 07:07 PM)
You surely can compare him to Nesta, but Baresi and Maldini are above them. They are legends.
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
Nesta with the quality of game he shows can be equal to Maldini and Baresi and at the same time not be a legend.
Cannavaro is something like that - quality of game, leadership, etc. but not a legend
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 22 2006, 09:07 AM)
You surely can compare him to Nesta, but Baresi and Maldini are above them. They are legends.
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
word.
Posted by: dudernahata Aug 23 2006, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 22 2006, 11:16 AM)
Nesta with the quality of game he shows can be equal to Maldini and Baresi and at the same time not be a legend.
Cannavaro is something like that - quality of game, leadership, etc. but not a legend
Cannavaro is something like that - quality of game, leadership, etc. but not a legend
no way man, when people think of a defender they compare them to baresi or maldini. the world never knew of such defenders. cannavaro is great and a great leader but remember that baresi and maldini are also great leaders for their teams and countries. nesta isnt near baresi or maldini when they were in their prime.
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 24 2006, 01:53 AM
QUOTE (dudernahata @ Aug 24 2006, 02:49 AM)
no way man, when people think of a defender they compare them to baresi or maldini. the world never knew of such defenders. cannavaro is great and a great leader but remember that baresi and maldini are also great leaders for their teams and countries. nesta isnt near baresi or maldini when they were in their prime.
Someday you'll talk other way... Time decides everything
Posted by: amancik Aug 24 2006, 09:12 AM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 22 2006, 04:07 PM)
You surely can compare him to Nesta, but Baresi and Maldini are above them. They are legends.
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
You know, there are good defenders like Stam or maybe even Kaladze, then there are awesome and outstanding defenders like Nesta and Cannavaro and then there are Maldini and Baresi
absolutely true ...
1) Legends = Maldini, Baresi
2) Outstanding Defenders = Nesta, Cannavaro
3) Solid Defenders = Stam, Puyol, Thuram
4) Good Defenders = Kaladze, Gallas
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 24 2006, 09:15 AM
Really, I thought Gallas was as good as Stam...otherwise y are we touting him as our Stam replacement??
Posted by: amancik Aug 24 2006, 09:22 AM
yeah I wasn't so sure where to put Gallas ... that classification is just an example of how I would put these defenders in order of their defending abilities ...
I don't think Gallas could be a direct replacement for Stam but it would certainly fill the gap ...
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 24 2006, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 24 2006, 12:12 PM)
absolutely true ...
1) Legends = Maldini, Baresi
2) Outstanding Defenders = Nesta, Cannavaro
3) Solid Defenders = Stam, Puyol, Thuram
4) Good Defenders = Kaladze, Gallas
1) Legends = Maldini, Baresi
2) Outstanding Defenders = Nesta, Cannavaro
3) Solid Defenders = Stam, Puyol, Thuram
4) Good Defenders = Kaladze, Gallas
edit
*Legend -- isn't the indication of the quality of their game ONLY
Legend -- isn't the indication of the quality of their game
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 24 2006, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 24 2006, 08:12 AM)
absolutely true ...
1) Legends = Maldini, Baresi
2) Outstanding Defenders = Nesta, Cannavaro
3) Solid Defenders = Stam, Puyol, Thuram
4) Good Defenders = Kaladze, Gallas
1) Legends = Maldini, Baresi
2) Outstanding Defenders = Nesta, Cannavaro
3) Solid Defenders = Stam, Puyol, Thuram
4) Good Defenders = Kaladze, Gallas
To me Thuram is definetely more than solid, he's definetely outstanding, and I guess in France he's a legend too. Oh and puyol too, is more than solid I'd say.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 24 2006, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 24 2006, 05:40 AM)
To me Thuram is definetely more than solid, he's definetely outstanding, and I guess in France he's a legend too. Oh and puyol too, is more than solid I'd say.
Nah, I agree with him. None of those defenders(Puyol and Thuram) have the class and elegance of Nesta and Cannavaro. They are still very good though.
Posted by: dst Aug 24 2006, 04:36 PM
Puyol's definetely in Nesta's league and Gallas is definetely more than just any good defender. Kaladze on the other hand is well .. let's just say he's bad!!!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 24 2006, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 24 2006, 04:36 PM)
Kaladze on the other hand is well .. let's just say he's bad!!!
No, no, no. Another player we don't agree there dst.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 24 2006, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 24 2006, 09:36 AM)
Puyol's definetely in Nesta's league and Gallas is definetely more than just any good defender. Kaladze on the other hand is well .. let's just say he's bad!!!
Puyol is in Nesta's league?
Wow, you don't have a clue how lucky we are to have him... When he gets back in form you'll see that he is the best defender in the world Period. Puyol lacks class. A lot of it. He is a defender version of Gattuso and he will never get close to Nesta's class.
Posted by: misha Aug 24 2006, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 24 2006, 07:45 PM)
Puyol is in Nesta's league? Wow, you don't have a clue how lucky we are to have him... When he gets back in form you'll see that he is the best defender in the world Period. Puyol lacks class. A lot of it. He is a defender version of Gattuso and he will never get close to Nesta's class.
Wow, you don't have a clue how lucky we are to have him... When he gets back in form you'll see that he is the best defender in the world Period. Puyol lacks class. A lot of it. He is a defender version of Gattuso and he will never get close to Nesta's class.It's hard to compare between them but I would say that Nesta is a little bit better
Posted by: dst Aug 24 2006, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2006, 06:37 PM)
No, no, no. Another player we don't agree there dst.
it's healthy
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 24 2006, 08:45 PM)
Puyol is in Nesta's league? Wow, you don't have a clue how lucky we are to have him... When he gets back in form you'll see that he is the best defender in the world Period. Puyol lacks class. A lot of it. He is a defender version of Gattuso and he will never get close to Nesta's class.
Wow, you don't have a clue how lucky we are to have him... When he gets back in form you'll see that he is the best defender in the world Period. Puyol lacks class. A lot of it. He is a defender version of Gattuso and he will never get close to Nesta's class.well ... I've been watching Nesta play for 7-8 years now so that gives me a clue I think. I remember him since his Lazio days and I know that he's the best defender in the world. I got his shirt and he along with Maldini is the reason why I loved defence so much. Stealing the ball is an art the way they do it. so ... I sure know we're lucky to have him!!!
All that has nothing to do with Puyol!!!! Ofcourse Nesta is a better player but tell me why is Cannavaro in Nesta's league and Puyol isn't? Puyol has been amazing for the past two years and in the World Cup while Cannavaro had only had a great WC but two mediocre seasons!!! Puyol is 28 and Cannavaro 33 ... Fabio at 28 was nowhere near Puyol!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 25 2006, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 24 2006, 01:41 PM)
it's healthy
well ... I've been watching Nesta play for 7-8 years now so that gives me a clue I think. I remember him since his Lazio days and I know that he's the best defender in the world. I got his shirt and he along with Maldini is the reason why I loved defence so much. Stealing the ball is an art the way they do it. so ... I sure know we're lucky to have him!!!
All that has nothing to do with Puyol!!!! Ofcourse Nesta is a better player but tell me why is Cannavaro in Nesta's league and Puyol isn't? Puyol has been amazing for the past two years and in the World Cup while Cannavaro had only had a great WC but two mediocre seasons!!! Puyol is 28 and Cannavaro 33 ... Fabio at 28 was nowhere near Puyol!!!
well ... I've been watching Nesta play for 7-8 years now so that gives me a clue I think. I remember him since his Lazio days and I know that he's the best defender in the world. I got his shirt and he along with Maldini is the reason why I loved defence so much. Stealing the ball is an art the way they do it. so ... I sure know we're lucky to have him!!!
All that has nothing to do with Puyol!!!! Ofcourse Nesta is a better player but tell me why is Cannavaro in Nesta's league and Puyol isn't? Puyol has been amazing for the past two years and in the World Cup while Cannavaro had only had a great WC but two mediocre seasons!!! Puyol is 28 and Cannavaro 33 ... Fabio at 28 was nowhere near Puyol!!!
IMO:
Nesta>Cannavaro>Puyol
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 25 2006, 11:08 AM)
IMO:
Nesta>Cannavaro>Puyol
Nesta>Cannavaro>Puyol
yes right now Cannavaro is better. But you'll see Puyol in two years time ...
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 24 2006, 11:41 PM)
All that has nothing to do with Puyol!!!! Ofcourse Nesta is a better player but tell me why is Cannavaro in Nesta's league and Puyol isn't?
Cause Cannavaro is Italian and Puyol isn't
A different way to defend
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 25 2006, 02:14 PM)
Cause Cannavaro is Italian and Puyol isn't A different way to defend
A different way to defendso what's different is better??? Ofcourse Italians are generally speaking better defenders than the Spaniards (catalunians) but we're talking about specific players here ...
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:45 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 03:22 PM)
so what's different is better??? Ofcourse Italians are generally speaking better defenders than the Spaniards (catalunians) but we're talking about specific players here ...
Well I don't know English enough good to write why I think so. Just one comment on this.
We'll see the biggest difference this year - Cannavaro playing in Real and Puyol playing in Barca.
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 12:49 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 25 2006, 02:45 PM)
We'll see the biggest difference this year - Cannavaro playing in Real and Puyol playing in Barca.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 27 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Aug 25 2006, 02:45 PM)
We'll see the biggest difference this year - Cannavaro playing in Real and Puyol playing in Barca.
Cannavaro and Capello as the coach !!! Comeon, we know how much Real will concede this season
It's Cannavaro hands down ..
Posted by: misha Sep 2 2006, 09:55 PM
QUOTE
Franco Baresi admits he'd love to one day coach AC Milan.
The Milan legend is currently working with the club's junior teams and said: "I would be very happy to coach Milan one day. If the possibility ever came up, I would take it.
"At the moment I am training the juniors to gain experience and to learn.
"From the team of Arrigo Sacchi, many former players are now coaching successfully. We all have been influenced by him and I think we all transmit his winning mentality to the players we now coach."
Indeed, Carlo Ancelotti, Frank Rijkaard, Marco van Basten and Roberto Donadoni have all emerged from the Sacchi school in recent years.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=10083
The Milan legend is currently working with the club's junior teams and said: "I would be very happy to coach Milan one day. If the possibility ever came up, I would take it.
"At the moment I am training the juniors to gain experience and to learn.
"From the team of Arrigo Sacchi, many former players are now coaching successfully. We all have been influenced by him and I think we all transmit his winning mentality to the players we now coach."
Indeed, Carlo Ancelotti, Frank Rijkaard, Marco van Basten and Roberto Donadoni have all emerged from the Sacchi school in recent years.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=10083
Posted by: dst May 8 2007, 02:34 PM
QUOTE
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRANCO BARESI!
5/8/2007
Everyone here at Milan Channel, ACMilan.com, the club and all the Rossoneri would like to wish Franco Baresi a very happy 47th birthday!
5/8/2007
Everyone here at Milan Channel, ACMilan.com, the club and all the Rossoneri would like to wish Franco Baresi a very happy 47th birthday!
Happy Birthday, you legend!!
Posted by: Portikins May 8 2007, 04:39 PM
Congrats Franco. Legend!
Posted by: arivanjj May 8 2007, 10:23 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 8 2007, 10:36 PM
Baresi !!! I think he needs a shot at coaching Milan
Posted by: Nawroz May 8 2007, 11:49 PM
The toughest defender ever and the best defender i have seen. Happy birthday Franco.
Posted by: anano1214 May 20 2007, 04:41 PM
FESTA PER L' ADDIO AL CALCIO DI BILLY COSTACURTA
Posted by: dst May 8 2008, 12:45 PM
Anyone knows why he chose no.6 instead of 5!?? 
Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 8 2008, 01:16 PM
Well Milan was formerly a cricket club. And 6 is the maximum scoring shot possible and well uhm... 
Nope...I have no clue.
Posted by: morgoth May 8 2008, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (dst @ May 8 2008, 12:45 PM)
Anyone knows why he chose no.6 instead of 5!??
Probably because the 5 was taking
Posted by: Tennie May 15 2008, 12:48 AM
There are reports in the Italian press that Serie C side Monza are looking to sign Franco Baresi as their head coach. (Monza is a town in Lombardy about 15km from Milan).
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 15 2008, 01:07 AM
Eventually Serie A will be full of former Milan players as managers! Hey, at least we'd win the league.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 15 2008, 02:13 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 15 2008, 02:48 AM)
There are reports in the Italian press that Serie C side Monza are looking to sign Franco Baresi as their head coach. (Monza is a town in Lombardy about 15km from Milan).
Oh cool ... I remember that town, they had the F1 there when I went to the game two years ago.
Posted by: dst May 15 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 15 2008, 03:07 AM)
Eventually Serie A will be full of former Milan players as managers! Hey, at least we'd win the league.
The golden squad!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 15 2008, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 15 2008, 01:48 AM)
There are reports in the Italian press that Serie C side Monza are looking to sign Franco Baresi as their head coach. (Monza is a town in Lombardy about 15km from Milan).
Anything new on that matter? Monza had always good relations with Milan. A couple of our players were loaned to Monza or did play there.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 7 2008, 10:18 PM
Baresi played in the second half of the Soccer Aid Charity match along side Jaap Stam for UNICEF it was not a bad match , it was a mix of Celabs and Football Legends, nice to see Baresi playing he made some of his lengendary tackles aswell as Stam !! Pierluigi Collina refereed for the start but when the ball was going over his head he ducked and injured himself and had to come off he looked in alot of pain i wished he stayed on he was replaced by the 4th official.
England 4 - 3 Rest of the World
Heres the link for the match report and links if you want to Donate !
http://www.itv.com/Entertainment/reality/SoccerAid/Matchresult/default.html
Posted by: Tennie Sep 7 2008, 10:26 PM
Wow. Thanks for posting that, Rhy. Did you watch the game?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 7 2008, 10:27 PM
Shearer and Sheringham still have it. How about trying to get them to reconsider retirement, Fabio? 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 8 2008, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 7 2008, 10:26 PM)
Wow. Thanks for posting that, Rhy. Did you watch the game?
only on T.V sadly didnt know Baresi or Stam would be there
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Dec 14 2008, 11:17 AM
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0001hl3.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0003yb2.jpg
Milan legends participated in a beneficial match - Tutti per Stefano Borgonovo
Baresi was also there. Cool to see him in the new shirt. Still looks good, the "Baresi" still not outdated. Nice to see the No. 6 on a Milan jersey one more time.
Posted by: Tennie Jan 5 2009, 07:36 PM
(With thanks to Claudia of RB Forums)
Franco Baresi at Milan-Udinese this past December.
Posted by: Ry4n Mar 4 2009, 07:19 AM
Heya found this article today on the uefa site an interview with Baresi 
!!
http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/kind=2/newsid=806272.html
Posted by: Tennie May 8 2009, 02:13 PM
QUOTE
TANTI AUGURI A FRANCO BARESI!
08/05/2009
MILANO - Compie gli anni oggi Franco Baresi, rossonero del secolo e mitico "Capitano" del Milan. Tanti auguri Franco! Ventisei anni dedicati alla causa, indossando per 716 volte la maglia rossonera, giocando indifferentemente finali della Coppa Campioni e sfide di serie B. Sono un motivo più che sufficiente per essere eletto milanista del secolo. Al "Capitano" del Club più titolato al mondo, tanti auguri di Buon Compleanno da parte di tutti i Rossoneri!
08/05/2009
MILANO - Compie gli anni oggi Franco Baresi, rossonero del secolo e mitico "Capitano" del Milan. Tanti auguri Franco! Ventisei anni dedicati alla causa, indossando per 716 volte la maglia rossonera, giocando indifferentemente finali della Coppa Campioni e sfide di serie B. Sono un motivo più che sufficiente per essere eletto milanista del secolo. Al "Capitano" del Club più titolato al mondo, tanti auguri di Buon Compleanno da parte di tutti i Rossoneri!
[Today is the birthday of Franco Baresi, rossonero of the century and mythical 'Capitano' of Milan. Best wishes Franco! 26 years dedicaded to the cause, playing 716 times, playing indifferently both CL finals and Serie B gams. That's a motive more than sufficient for being elected Milanista of the century. To 'Capitano' of the most titled club in the world, best wishes for a happy birthday from all the rossoneri!]
Posted by: dst May 8 2009, 02:19 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU LEGEND!!!
He'd be my God if there was no God.
Posted by: Dash Jun 23 2009, 04:28 AM
Piscinin was a true legend, and was one of the most exciting of our lads to watch. Can't believe it's been a dozen years since he's played.
Posted by: Tennie Oct 27 2009, 11:36 PM
There's a really nice interview with Franco Baresi on Mediaset today. Here's Fishdoll's translation. http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/articoli/articolo27638.shtml to original
QUOTE
Did you believe Milan could win in Madrid?
-- Before there were few who had faith, but in Europe the Rossoneri have a fundamental quality. It's what makes them better.
What you feel?
--An immense joy, like when I played. A great victory that silenced the critics.
How is it that Milan has won 11 points in the second half?
--A little because the adversaries tire as they spend energy in the first half. The rhythm slows and quality and experience come forward - these are valued by Milan.
Why isn't Milan as good in the league as they are in Europe?
--Against quality opposition, Milan exalts more. In Italy, it's more difficult against closed defenses.
Ronaldinho's improving. How much can he give?
--I've always been pro-Dinho. If he's doing well, he has more than the others. I love his passes. But he shouldn't always be under examination. Milan can't do without him; he and Pato should be continually supported.
You are a great defender, why are there fewer strong ones today?
--There's less choice. Now the foreign defenders command. There's less space for ours.
Your picks for the scudetto?
--Inter, Juve, and Milan if the Rossoneri have complete faith in themselves. But Inter's game needs to grow and Juve needs to improve.
And the others?
--Samp could be a big surprise. I like Genoa and keep an eye on Fiorentina.
Turnover, with squads of 30-31 players is a cause of the crisis of young players who aren't fielded?
--If you want to win, you shouldn't change the lineup a lot and naturally the young pay for this handicap.
Give a vote to Balotelli.
--He's a great player. Quality-wise, he's a phenomenon. He needs to discipline himself and mature. Champions are the Maldinis, who last long, have consistent performances and an exemplary behavior.
Would you call up Cassano?
--I love fantasy, the inventive ones who put on a show. It's difficult to mark guys like Cassano.
Juve-Samp: who will win?
--Juve
Napoli-Milan: who risks more?
--There's danger for both. Mazzarri has motivated his players. If they never let their guard down, Milan is ready to win.
Who will win the Champions League?
-Chelsea is favourite, they have all the pieces.
And the World Cup?
--Favorites are Brazil, Italy, Spain, and Argentina. With England capable of being a big surprise.
If you played today, which strikers would you fear most?
--Pato and Eto'o, technical and fast.
Tassotti, Costacurta, Baresi, Maldini: a quartet that could have imitators?
--We had the luck to find each other together all at around 25 years old and to last for a decade.
-- Before there were few who had faith, but in Europe the Rossoneri have a fundamental quality. It's what makes them better.
What you feel?
--An immense joy, like when I played. A great victory that silenced the critics.
How is it that Milan has won 11 points in the second half?
--A little because the adversaries tire as they spend energy in the first half. The rhythm slows and quality and experience come forward - these are valued by Milan.
Why isn't Milan as good in the league as they are in Europe?
--Against quality opposition, Milan exalts more. In Italy, it's more difficult against closed defenses.
Ronaldinho's improving. How much can he give?
--I've always been pro-Dinho. If he's doing well, he has more than the others. I love his passes. But he shouldn't always be under examination. Milan can't do without him; he and Pato should be continually supported.
You are a great defender, why are there fewer strong ones today?
--There's less choice. Now the foreign defenders command. There's less space for ours.
Your picks for the scudetto?
--Inter, Juve, and Milan if the Rossoneri have complete faith in themselves. But Inter's game needs to grow and Juve needs to improve.
And the others?
--Samp could be a big surprise. I like Genoa and keep an eye on Fiorentina.
Turnover, with squads of 30-31 players is a cause of the crisis of young players who aren't fielded?
--If you want to win, you shouldn't change the lineup a lot and naturally the young pay for this handicap.
Give a vote to Balotelli.
--He's a great player. Quality-wise, he's a phenomenon. He needs to discipline himself and mature. Champions are the Maldinis, who last long, have consistent performances and an exemplary behavior.
Would you call up Cassano?
--I love fantasy, the inventive ones who put on a show. It's difficult to mark guys like Cassano.
Juve-Samp: who will win?
--Juve
Napoli-Milan: who risks more?
--There's danger for both. Mazzarri has motivated his players. If they never let their guard down, Milan is ready to win.
Who will win the Champions League?
-Chelsea is favourite, they have all the pieces.
And the World Cup?
--Favorites are Brazil, Italy, Spain, and Argentina. With England capable of being a big surprise.
If you played today, which strikers would you fear most?
--Pato and Eto'o, technical and fast.
Tassotti, Costacurta, Baresi, Maldini: a quartet that could have imitators?
--We had the luck to find each other together all at around 25 years old and to last for a decade.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 27 2009, 11:49 PM
Good stuff.
Though ex-pro interviews always irritate me a little with things like this:
QUOTE
Your picks for the scudetto?
--Inter, Juve, and Milan if the Rossoneri have complete faith in themselves. But Inter's game needs to grow and Juve needs to improve.
--Inter, Juve, and Milan if the Rossoneri have complete faith in themselves. But Inter's game needs to grow and Juve needs to improve.
He makes it sound like we're the front runners with that last sentence! It's almost like they can't criticise the team at all.
Posted by: Zed.D Oct 28 2009, 10:33 AM
QUOTE
If you played today, which strikers would you fear most?
--Pato and Eto'o, technical and fast.
--Pato and Eto'o, technical and fast.
Posted by: Tennie Oct 28 2009, 11:15 AM
Why the sad face, zeddie? For Baresi to say that, it's a compliment.
Posted by: Zed.D Oct 28 2009, 11:50 AM
It's a happy sad face!
Posted by: Fishdoll May 8 2010, 12:39 PM
(from acmilan.com)
QUOTE
TANTI AUGURI A FRANCO BARESI!
08/05/2010
MILANO - Compie oggi gli anni Franco Baresi, rossonero del secolo e mitico "Capitano" del Milan. Ventisei anni dedicati alla causa, indossando per 716 volte la maglia rossonera. Al "Capitano" del Club più titolato al mondo, tanti auguri di Buon Compleanno per i suoi cinquant'anni da parte di tutti i Rossoneri!
08/05/2010
MILANO - Compie oggi gli anni Franco Baresi, rossonero del secolo e mitico "Capitano" del Milan. Ventisei anni dedicati alla causa, indossando per 716 volte la maglia rossonera. Al "Capitano" del Club più titolato al mondo, tanti auguri di Buon Compleanno per i suoi cinquant'anni da parte di tutti i Rossoneri!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Posted by: Zed.D May 8 2010, 12:45 PM
Happy Birthday, even though I never got the chance to see you play.
Thanks for recommending MvB, btw!
Posted by: arivanjj Apr 30 2011, 02:49 PM
just incredible. what a performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPQNpPvJq0
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 30 2011, 04:47 PM
Milan and Italy both miss such extra class players nowdays.
Posted by: Jack Bauer Oct 28 2011, 02:57 PM
Today, 15 years ago, Franco retired 
http://youtu.be/moupzumE68s
Posted by: Fishdoll Aug 7 2017, 02:18 PM
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'For Milan, I did everything. Even being ballboy.'
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