Just stupid. Doesn't help when your vice captain says your club has no chance. The players already lack confidence as it is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Btw,

The offer for Constant was 2m. He's on 800k a year.

We paid 7.5m for him.


It would be stupid to sell him for 2m. Who can we get to replace him with that money and on that wage. I'd say he's at least worth 5m.

Anyways, they want him so negotations are going to continue.

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If we can't sign cerci, (which is look like it won't happen) and if campbell falls through. We will go for Andre Ayew whose contract with Marseille expires next year. He's 24

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 10:54 AM

800k a year means we're spending 1.6m every year on him because of taxes

And I don't care that we were stupid enough to begin with and spent that kind of money to buy him. He's terrible, he's not even a LB but he's only ever considered a such by our coaches, he's useless there, a complete defensive liability to go along with the other liabilities we have on this team.

If there is a chance to offload him, then just do it.

The fact that we need proper LB cover is not going to change, whether he stays or goes

Btw, just checked the wage chart. He's earning 1m per year after taxes. So double that and that's what he's costing us each year. He has a contract until 2017. Which means another 3 seasons of paying that kind of money. So that means he'll cost us a further 6m aside from the money that we already wasted on his wages.

I'd say take whatever they're offering and run

...^^ That makes perfect sense, if he was a spare player. For example a third player vying for a single position on the squad.

But that's not the case. Getting rid of him and signing someone better at the same wage to be a first teamer is impossible. And why sign someone who is just as mediocre to seat him on the bench? Doesn't make sense. You just lose out on more transfer money.

Um, that is what he is. DS is the first choice LB

Constant is nothing but a utility player who has been lucky enough to play in this very average Milan because of injuries and then Seedorf seeing DS as only a RB

He is not first choice, shouldn't even be second choice as he's not a LB and bound to make one mistake in practically each game he plays.

This is the problem with Milan atm, we have mediocre players filling in for various positions and in some cases being the only options we have, if we want to move forward we can't have guys like Zaccardo and Constant trying to be Jack of all trades and failing at each of them, Constant could be a half decent CM, but he's only considered as a LB, and as a LB he's nothing but a liability to this team. We need to look at someone who is an actual defender to cover DS in that position. Constant is just not that guy and if we can't use him in midfield then we have no use for him on this squad

Our Fullbacks right now:

Abate
DES
Constant
Albertazzi


Bonera and Zaccardo are make shift fullbacks, but i don't think Inzaghi will use them too much. They are just there in case of emergencies anyways and to provide experience. Vila will be sold.

Albertazzi isn't ready for Milan and he will take at least a season to get used to not sh*ttng his pants every time he walks into the stadium. Thats if he survives the season.

So that leaves us with Abate, DES and Constant. If we sell constant we won't be able to get anyone as good as him. It'll cost us minimum 7m to get a replacement. Its just not worth it. You know Galliani won't replace him if we sell him.


Our transfer budget is set at 0. We've already spent 3.75m on Rami and 500k on Albertazzi.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 11:18 AM

We've reached an agreement with Dzemaili of napoli. We bid 3m earlier but they rejected.

Negotations are set to continue, it looks like we'll be planning to bid 4m max for him. Napoli want 5m. (i expect this to take all august (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Arsenal are close to douglas costa, so that'll probably rule out a balo transfer.

It seems inzaghi isn't convinced by Essien and is looking to ship him off and bring in Dzemaili or another CM.

Juventus have made an official enquiry about Zapata and talks will begin soon. Allegri wants him bad.

(we should try and at least get 12m for zapta. we paid 7m for him afterall and he's had a good world cup)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 11:23 AM

That is a VERY low bar to set for anyone who will be replacing him!

Albertazzi was awful in that friendly against Olympiacos, a total mess, I really can't see him being considered and it wouldn't shock me if he didn't even last the summer with us and we'll ship him off somewhere before the window closes

So that makes it Abate, Bonera, DS and Constant. Bonera imo is still decent at RB it removes the possibilities of the calamities he achieves at CB and he's always been pretty solid for us as a RB, doesn't provide anything going forward but defensively he's always done a good job there, so I still consider him an option for that position.

Constant is just not a LB, so if we sell him, we'll be forced to bring in someone else as there wouldn't be an option. And that is a GOOD thing. Constant is absolutely awful defensively, I don't know how many goals he w directly responsible for just last season alone. We need to get rid of him ASAP so even JUST the option of playing him is no longer there. We need a PROPER LB to cover for DS. If that means spending some money than so be it.


Dzemaili?? Are these our aspirations for next season? FFS!

He's at Muntari level imo, won't add anything to the team, we need a proper CM before we start next season and that cannot be Dzemaili

If we sell Zapata to Juve we better ask for good cash, enough to recoup what we gave them for Matri plus a compensation for taking him in the first place. So that would mean asking them for 15m and nothing less.

We shouldn't be helping them out by giving them some cut price deal as we usually like to stupidly do

But what can you do with no money?

We have a debt of 15m euros and we are missing out on 30m euros that we can get from CL.

Thats 45m we are lacking. We still lack sufficient funds to do anything. So either Silvio opens up his wallet or we spend our money where it matters most.


If we sell constant, we should keep Vila and use him there. Take the money and use it towards a midfielder or attacker.

We need to spend at least 30m euros for a chance at fighting for 3rd.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 11:55 AM

Dzemaili would be alright, I guess. If Pippo plans on using Honda in midfield, then we're already covered with him, De Jong and Poli, which is a darn good midfield if you ask me. Dzemaili would act as a sub, alongside Muntari and Cristante.

Dzemelai is a waste of money in my opinion.

Get rid of Essien. Promote Mastali.

Honda, Monto, de jong, sapo, poli, muntari, cristante, mastali

Take that 5m were gonna spend on him and put it towards the attacking signing. Once robinho hits the deck, splash on someone like Griezzman.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 12:07 PM

I think with such scarce income, what Galliani is doing is a very good job. Maybe you prefer someone other than Muntari to be our DM, and I would prefer Muller to Balotelli, and maybe Jack would prefer Iniesta instead of Montolivo, etc etc ... yet the reality is these are the players that 'tick' certain criteria to fill a 'void' within the squad at a lower cost than Iniesta or Muller.

Stop-gaps if you will, which should ultimately be filled by a graduate of our youth academy. <--- That is the cycle we are waiting to complete.

Things are changing? of course, not as swiftly as we all would like. But in line with our income things are changing.

Our management have been planning for this change since 2008. This is not the spur of the moment type of thing. Just that our youth academy is not yet producing players capable of tacking a first team role. Is Galliani to blame for that? Or is it a matter of adaptation that the youth have yet to be on that level?

Veratti was the next Pirlo coming out of Serie B and straight to PSG. Would Milan or Juventus or inter be able to retain this next Italian big thing? We all know the obvious here.

And it is the obvious that we can not come to terms with on this forum. Why? Because we are used to a Glorious Milan. A Milan of Maldini&Nesta or Shevchenko&Inzaghi. Today's Milan, we can not relate to, I can not relate to.

1 ) Is there hope? Yes, but do you have the patience? I know han doesn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
2 ) Our management have reduced the losses to be within the 45M over three year period under FFP, also management have implemented a youth policy so the first team can harvest players from within.

To judge the management is not really important is it? I mean its not like we have a say in it. But from the financials I can say for certain there are things taking shape, a lot of investments have gone to the youth side (obviously to be realized when the youth mature). We have had initiatives such as Casa Milan (to promote future Milan fans and increase the fan base). We have reduced our salary burden (removing high earners fromt he books).


PS. Nothing is certain Blue, only death is certain. But from the looks of things, the management (believe it or not) have been doing a LOT to get this club in top shape. Of course top shape does not mean Milan of 2003, rather a modified Milan which is in compliance with FFP.

Will that be in 1/3/5 yrs? I don't know, the sooner the better no? But it all depends on our youth maturing is my take.

Whats your opinion on berlusconi and his plans for the club? Do you think he's going to keep it in the family or sell it off.


I personally see all the iniatives taken as a way to make milan financially attractive. We have had investors interested in the past. But the numbers weren't right.


I just don't see Berlusconi dragging his name through the mud with this youth project perspective. If we have another blunder of a season i can see him seriously look to get as much ROI as he can. El Sharaawy being the first to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Jul 27 2014, 12:19 PM

Verratti went for a very reasonable sum, the fact that Italian clubs don't want to spend more than a certain amount on youth because they don't really believe in it is why Verratti went to PSG and not Juve, Milan or Inter. Because any one of those teams could have afforded to pay Pescara the 14m or so that they spent on Verratti and they'd have had an assured star for the next 10 to 15 years