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Fillipo Simone
post Oct 27 2018, 08:40 PM
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Perhaps. But I've lost faith. Gattus proved he can fire up the team, the trouble is that it doesn't last very long up until we fall into another black hole. And then over and over again. So I really think we need a change ASAP.

But probably it won't happen. We'll win against Sampdoria and Genoa and Rino will keep his post. Then few weeks or months after this we'll again be in crisis. To be quite honest, I can't see Rino finishing this season as our coach.
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post Oct 28 2018, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 27 2018, 08:40 PM) *
Perhaps. But I've lost faith. Gattus proved he can fire up the team, the trouble is that it doesn't last very long up until we fall into another black hole. And then over and over again. So I really think we need a change ASAP.

But probably it won't happen. We'll win against Sampdoria and Genoa and Rino will keep his post. Then few weeks or months after this we'll again be in crisis. To be quite honest, I can't see Rino finishing this season as our coach.


But you said it yourself, Conte is going to Madrid, Donadoni would be disappointing and Wenger is just strange (not to mention he's a born loser). So, who should we sign? I can't think of anyone at the moment.
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So, 4-4-2 tonight with Suso and Laxalt on the flanks.

Typical signs of a coach who has lost it and has no idea what he’s doing anymore.
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post Oct 28 2018, 04:58 PM
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I think it will be more of a 4-2-4 system. But well...
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post Oct 28 2018, 06:13 PM
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Let's see, started with the right attitude and energy today. We absolutely have to win this and the Genoa game.
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post Oct 28 2018, 06:34 PM
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Absolutely killed by 2 simple balls from left to right...

Calabria is too exposed on the right side.
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post Oct 28 2018, 06:49 PM
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Too much spaces.
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post Oct 28 2018, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 28 2018, 06:49 PM) *
Too much spaces.

Agreed, this is why I don't like a 4-4-2, especially when it means we're basically shifting to a 4-2-4, especially with Suso playing so high up leaving Calabria vulnerable with no help from the mids either as they can't just drift to help as it would leave us wide open through the centre of the pitch.

If Rino wants to utilize both Cutrone and Higuain, which has so far proved very justifiable, than we have to either go with a 4-3-1-2 or a 3-man defensive line.

Also, watching Cutrone and Higuain play inadvertently p!sses me off. Because if all the other players played with even half the fight and hunger these 2 play with, we'd be a sure top 4 side. Watching Suso, Hakan, Biglia etc play who are so mentally weak is frutrating as hell. And you can say that Higuain is a winner and that's what we need in the team, but Patrick has won f@ck all in his career and he's still got a winner's mentality. It's just so frustrating to see player who have so much ability, like Suso and Hakan for example, who allow their heads to drop at the first sign of trouble. And until this changes, we can change coaches as many times as we want, we'll still end up with the same results.

It's why I'm so in favour of bringing back Ibra. Players like this will instill a certain mentality in the team that has been lost to us since the veterans retired
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post Oct 28 2018, 07:04 PM
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No having today's match thread is bad
Not allowing regular users to open them is pathetic and embarrassing

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post Oct 28 2018, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Oct 28 2018, 07:04 PM) *
No having today's match thread is bad
Not allowing regular users to open them is pathetic and embarrassing

Sorry dru, totally forgot about it. we can discuss here for this and then I'll open the Genoa thread

3-2 btw. Let's keep this going
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post Oct 28 2018, 07:49 PM
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How have we played today. We still cant keep a clean sheet is very alarming.
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post Oct 28 2018, 08:39 PM
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Piss poor defending. Calabria should be benched. Along with Donna.

Last time Milan conceded 15 consecutive matches? 1946. And now...
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 28 2018, 08:39 PM) *
Piss poor defending. Calabria should be benched. Along with Donna.


They both should have been benched since a while.
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post Oct 28 2018, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 28 2018, 07:49 PM) *
How have we played today. We still cant keep a clean sheet is very alarming.

Not going to say we played well, but we didn't play badly either. There are glaring weaknesses which keep getting exposed in every game

Rino absolutely has to figure out a way to get this team to stay compact when we don't have the ball because right now it's just as mess. Too many spaces are being left leaving the back 4 continually exposed

Last season we were defensively solid with Rino and impotent in the attack, now it's a complete 180 where we're scoring relatively freely in most games but can't manage a clean sheet to save our lives

We can blame individuals until the cows come home, Calabria made errors no doubt but he was completely left in no man's land by the midfield, Rodriguez had the benfit of Laxalt ahead of him, while Calabria was continually getting double teamed

I don't agree with a 4-4-2, and while the concept of having both Cutrone and Higuain on the pitch was nice, the 4-4-2 is not a solution for it. Kessie and Biglia are simply not capable of playing in a double pivot, where the requirement of them are very specific, Kessie is especially undisciplined in this regard. We need to play a 3-man midfield and the side mids (Kessie and Bona on most occasions) need to kelp out their FBs because right now, they're not doing that as well as they were last season and we're seeing the defensive line continually getting exposed.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 28 2018, 08:39 PM) *
Piss poor defending. Calabria should be benched. Along with Donna.

Last time Milan conceded 15 consecutive matches? 1946. And now...

Calabria isn't really the problem, it's the whole defensive setup and shape of the team. We're not compact enough and we're leaving too many spaces between our midfield and defense.

If Gattuso manages to find the balance between the defensive solidity we showed last season and the attacking play we're showing this season we can still do well. But as of now, we're just not showing any signs that the defensive organisation is getting better with each game

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They both should have been benched since a while.

Calabria has had good games and games where he's made mistakes, I still generally prefer him over Abate these days personally speaking



Anyway, we're painting a bleak picture of the season being over when we've lost 2 games this season, against Napoli and Inter both of which have better teams than us imo and aren't our direct competitor to 4th. Yes, we drew games we shouldn't have but aside from that we haven't been as shambolic as most are thinking. If we win against Genoa, we'll be within touching distance of 4th, especially if Inter win or draw against Lazio tomorrow. So lets just all stay calm. Sacking Gattuso won't make everything magically better unless we bring in a top notch coach which is looking unlikely. I'd rather keep Rino than sacking him just to bring in another average coach like Donadoni. That would be redundant.
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post Oct 29 2018, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 28 2018, 03:23 PM) *
Sorry dru, totally forgot about it. we can discuss here for this and then I'll open the Genoa thread

3-2 btw. Let's keep this going


I want this place to keep going. It's a nice forum you have here.

I gotta say, my goodwill towards Gattuso is evaporating. I didn't have any to start, but he came in and did a really great job even though I seriously disagreed with some of his decisions....most notably how he managed Andre Silva.

But now he seems to be rather stubborn about his selections and inflexible to make the right subs in time. He's like a Goodwill version of Allegri an this point
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