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post Jul 6 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 5 2014, 11:50 PM) *
Great decision from van Gaal to bring Krul on. Went the right way for all 5 penalties.

Holland are easily the most entertaining team left, hope they finally win it.

Agreed.

Costa Rica though have seriously been impressive throughout the tournament. I like their coach as well
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post Jul 6 2014, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 6 2014, 10:19 AM) *
But on the other hand, Krul was being totally out of line. Who knows what he was telling the Costarican shooters, but it sure wasn't nice and fair.

Btw. is Krul a penalty specialist like Holland used to have in general or did he only study the Costaricans and their way of shooting?
what i heard was 2 out of 20 saves was his epl record. i believe it was more of a psychological move which worked well.
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post Jul 6 2014, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 6 2014, 09:01 PM) *
what i heard was 2 out of 20 saves was his epl record. i believe it was more of a psychological move which worked well.

yeah i heard the same. tbh i dont get sucked into the whole hype and praises of penalties. it really is 50-50. thats a fact.
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post Jul 6 2014, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 6 2014, 11:01 AM) *
what i heard was 2 out of 20 saves was his epl record. i believe it was more of a psychological move which worked well.

Agreed. I'm sure Van Gaal thought it would throw them off, bringing the "penalty specialist" on at the last moment because he will do the job
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post Jul 6 2014, 04:48 PM
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I think it was probably more to do with throwing off their preparation. Some goalies favour diving a certain way, or move early, etc. these are things players will study. They wouldn't have done any kind of preperation on Krul. It was definitely all psychological IMO.
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post Jul 7 2014, 11:02 AM
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I thought it was pretty sh*t tbh. He was brought on to put them off - LVG had the right to make that sub, but Krul's conduct I found totally unsporting.

And it was a total insult to Cilleson.
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:15 PM
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Finally!
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 7 2014, 01:15 PM) *
Finally!


Finally what?
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 7 2014, 04:21 PM) *
Finally what?

Well finally someone realized Krul showed an incredible amount of unsporting behavior.
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 7 2014, 02:32 PM) *
Well finally someone realized Krul showed an incredible amount of unsporting behavior.

I wouldn't call it unsporting behaviour. Many keepers do the same thing to try to get into the players' heads. Most of the time it doesn't work and they end up looking like idiots, on other rare occasions it "works". And I put that in "" because it usually has nothing to do with the keeper acting like an idiot, it all depends on the penalty taker and what frame of mind he's in, if he's confident of scoring there's no way a little trash talk will effect him.
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 7 2014, 01:32 PM) *
Well finally someone realized Krul showed an incredible amount of unsporting behavior.


Some have admired what he did, I'm not one of them.
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post Jul 7 2014, 02:47 PM
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Didn't take Prandelli long to find a new gig!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28142969
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post Jul 7 2014, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 7 2014, 04:42 PM) *
I wouldn't call it unsporting behaviour. Many keepers do the same thing to try to get into the players' heads. Most of the time it doesn't work and they end up looking like idiots, on other rare occasions it "works". And I put that in "" because it usually has nothing to do with the keeper acting like an idiot, it all depends on the penalty taker and what frame of mind he's in, if he's confident of scoring there's no way a little trash talk will effect him.

Really? So you are one of those who think Dudek behaved also "normal" and only tried get into the players?

I have to disagree. Show me a comparable example (on a high stage like the WC quarterfinal) to Krul's almost threatening trash talk? I think you'll find up very few to none. This wasn't just a little, this was a rarely seen show.
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post Jul 7 2014, 06:03 PM
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I don't think Dudek behaved poorly against us at all (maybe I'm not remembering), but Krul was another level. I'm with Fillipo that it was way too much. Goalies shouldn't be allowed out of the 6 yard box to come and talk to the player IMO.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 7 2014, 06:03 PM) *
Goalies shouldn't be allowed out of the 6 yard box to come and talk to the player IMO.


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