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Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 1 2008, 07:44 AM

Lippi: Arsenal Fear Milan

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The first leg at the Emirates ended in a 0-0 draw and Lippi believes that the Rossoneri have the upper hand because of their status as European and World Club Champions.

The tactician also believes that Milan are feared by Arsene Wenger's young side of up and coming stars.

“They (Milan) give their maximum in this competition and there is no doubt that Arsenal had some fear against this Milan side,” Lippi told Sky Sport Italia.

“Arsenal’s youngsters, as good as they are, must have asked themselves why does this team always win? Why do they become World and European Champions? There is this type of fear that you can see on the pitch.

“They(Milan) have this conviction, this type of motivation it’s like a predisposition they have in these types of games.

“Then perhaps in the league they may have struggled because they think about it less.”

The Rossoneri are currently fifth in Serie A and they will be hoping to qualify for the Champions League next season ahead of Fiorentina who are in fourth place.

Carlo Ancelotti’s men clash with the Gunners next week for a place in the Champions League quarter finals as they seek to defend their trophy.

GOAL.COM


Alright guys, lets show them why we are one of the most feared teams on the planet in this competition. I hope kaka comes back in time.


FORZA MILAN FORZA MILANFAN devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 09:23 AM

hey, you're overtaking smile.gif game by game... tongue.gif nahh, we gonna destroy them biggrin.gif

Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:24 AM

We need to play our best game of the season to win this game IMO, gotta step it up to another level.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 1 2008, 10:35 AM

The San Siro crowd will definitely play a significant role in this match! I expect them to boo every time an Arsenal player takes the ball. devil.gif

Seriously the first thing we need to do is to take their confidence away from them, otherwise we will have problems. an early goal plus constant booing should do the trick I think!

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 11:24 PM

Seedorf out of Arsenal clash

Carlo Ancelotti admits Milan aren’t at their best right now and Clarence Seedorf is out of action against Arsenal.

“I am only worried by the fact we are going into a match with a very strong team in what is not our best form,” said the Coach after their 1-1 draw with Lazio.

It was a second consecutive Serie A stalemate after the midweek 1-1 at Catania and Massimo Oddo’s penalty was needed to fight back from a Rolando Bianchi opener.

The first half performance in particular was very poor and the tempo was kept sluggishly slow.

“I have to say, though, that I don’t see teams in Italy and Europe who are much sharper than we are at the moment.”

During this evening’s encounter Seedorf went off with a thigh problem in the first half and Ancelotti confirmed the Dutchman would not be available for Tuesday’s encounter with Arsenal.

Meanwhile, Lazio President Claudio Lotito – still the only member of the club who will speak to the media – complained that the penalty incident was unfair.

“I saw that at least four Milan corner kicks should have been retaken because the ball was outside the line and that includes the one that led to Oddo’s equaliser.

“We deserved to win, especially considering all the chances we had at the start of the second half. Milan only avoided defeat thanks to Zeljko Kalac’s great saves. He was decisive.”


http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/mar1n.html

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 1 2008, 11:32 PM

No Seedorf vs the Gunners? Oh dear.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 12:35 AM

Big big loss. This is the kind of game Seedorf usually shows up in. Sigh.

Kalac
Oddo Nesta Kaladze Maldini/Janku
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka
Pato Inzaghi

Posted by: dst Mar 2 2008, 01:59 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 2 2008, 01:35 AM)
Big big loss.  This is the kind of game Seedorf usually shows up in. Sigh.
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Yeah like he did at Emirates. No thanks.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 02:01 AM

I hope he's at least available for the bench.. what attacking players will we have on the bench... Gourcuff? No way Carlo trusts him in this game. Gilardino? Uh huh..

Posted by: dst Mar 2 2008, 02:04 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 2 2008, 03:01 AM)
I hope he's at least available for the bench.. what attacking players will we have on the bench... Gourcuff? No way Carlo trusts him in this game.  Gilardino? Uh huh..
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We'll probably play with 2 up front. And since Carletto is not the toughest man he will probably field Gila who unlike Pippo draws back to help the defence.

I don't know what was wrong with him in the game in London but he helped them more than he helped us. I would not want to see that again.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 2 2008, 04:07 AM

Hrm. Maybe he said something to Sky, but in the Italian-language articles (interviews, etc) on acmilan.com, there's no confirmation that Seedorf is out. There are a lot of 'maybes' and a couple of the players say that they're pretty sure he'll play. This may be a case of Channel 4 mistranslating.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 2 2008, 04:11 AM

ON TOP OF THE SLOPE


MILAN - Milan are in difficulty, the rossoneri arrive to the match against Arsenal on the back of a home draw and a lot of injuries. ADRIANO GALLIANI explained the difficult moment as follows:

"With Lazio we obtained a draw that was right, in a match where we suffered many injuries: first Seedorf, then Emerson and Jankulovski. We preferred to rest Maldini for Tuesday, but the ones who did play like Digao did well. Kalac and Gourcuff both did well, there were some positive notes. I asked Seedorf what he thinks of the injury and he told me he doesn't know anything yet. Now we are waiting for Nesta, Pirlo, and Kaká to recover, but there should be no problems. We are aware of this difficult period, but we don't want to hang our heads down."

"Milan-Arsenal will be a great match, we are certainly coming off a difficult period, but we will recover. I don't know how this match will go, but I hope that it will be us who celebrate at the end."

Also coach CARLO ANCELOTTI talked about the difficulties of the team in this moment:

"Again we had some injuries today. The exits of Emerson, Seedorf, and Jankulovski prevented us from making certain predetermined moves. In any case I don't think the physical aspect is the most important thing to win in Europe right now. For this reason I think we should go for it against Arsenal. In the first half tonight we did not play at a great rhythm, but a lot depended on the condition of some of our players. The second half was good, the draw isn't a great result but we must accept it. Kaká and the others? Kaká is doing very well, Pirlo and Nesta will certainly be back in time for Tuesday's game."

"On the penalty, I had asked Oddo during the week whether he would want to take it despite the presence of Ballotta, Massimo is an excellent penalty taker. Today the referee did very well, he let the play flow and he seemed confident in every situation."

"I saw Arsenal today, they struggled too, but in any case they have great qualities and they have recovered important players. We must not think about playing too physically, we will only have to play our football without worrying."

"Fourth place? I think we will manage to play good football later on. I am convinced the bad period is over with tonight's draw against Lazio. I feel a lot of preoccupation around us, but I'm convinced we are on top of the slope. Also on Tuesday we will have a packed stadium supporting us, so I'm optimistic."


http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=62856

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 2 2008, 06:16 AM

^^^

Here comes that bad feeling again... unsure.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 2 2008, 08:28 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 2 2008, 04:31 AM)
I hope he's at least available for the bench.. what attacking players will we have on the bench... Gourcuff? No way Carlo trusts him in this game.  Gilardino? Uh huh..
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Why would he want to do something like that when he has Brocchinho available?

Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 09:51 AM

Hopefully Janku is okay, he had to leave at HT with injury. Hopefully it was just a precaution. His crossing was off but at least he gets up there. I guess Milan will start prob start with Maldini though.

Posted by: MizNelson Mar 2 2008, 10:18 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 2 2008, 12:51 AM)
Hopefully Janku is okay, he had to leave at HT with injury. 
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Is there anybody on the team who hasn't had to do that this season? innocent.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 2 2008, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 2 2008, 08:18 PM)
Is there anybody on the team who hasn't had to do that this season?  innocent.gif
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Kaladze dry.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 2 2008, 11:38 AM

Wenger: We Won't Be Out To Kill Kaka!


While commenting extensively on the hotly anticipated return-leg at the San Siro between Arsenal and AC Milan on Tuesday, Arsene Wenger has insisted that his team will not resort to he same type of henchmen tactics that so many Serie A teams have adopted to try to deal with the threat of Kaka - especially after seeing one of his own players literally almost lose his foot as the result of that type of 'take no prisoners' defending.


The Brazilian World Player of the Year has become an obvious target for defenders, man-markers, and hardmen of the game, and there are growing fears that he could pay the ultimate price by way of an early retirement if something isn't done to protect him.

Despite the fact that Kaka could kill Wenger's best laid plans for Champions League glory with a solitary stroke of genius, the French tactician shudders at the thought of resorting to violence to counter his brilliance.

Wenger said: "In Italy, what do the teams do who play against Milan? They take Kaka, get him out of the game.

"We will play zonal and will not mark him man to man. We will be faithful to what we do usually.

"We will try to get him out of the game by cutting the connections with him.

"If you kick the great players out of the game, why should people go to watch football?

"Great players make football a bit special, they make it art. If you are there to kill them, it is not acceptable."

The tie is on a knife's edge as a result of the scoreless stalemate at the Emirates Stadium, but Wenger knows that Milan can be a different kind of monster at home. devil.gif

"We have to be tight defensively, because they tore Man United apart in the first 20 minutes of the second leg at the San Siro last season," he added.

"It is important for us to start strongly in defence, but also not to hide.

"What is good from the first result is we know every time we get the ball we are incited to go for a goal.

"I do not like to go away from home thinking your team just has to defend. With a 0-0 result, we know that we have to attack as well.

"From the first game, we have the belief we can beat them because we dominated the game - that always has an impact on the second game.

"We will need patience against them, but our pace can be a good asset.

"Milan have shown in Europe that they can deal with all sorts of opposition, they can slow the game down," Wenger reflected.

"What Milan do well is put you to their pace, and when Kaka gets the ball they can have sudden acceleration which can kill you.

"We will have to adapt to that because we like to play always at a high pace."

Posted by: misha Mar 2 2008, 11:47 AM

----------Kalac
Oddo Nesta Maldini Janku
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
----------Kaka
------Pato Inzaghi

Gila in decisive CL game? No thanks.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 2 2008, 01:21 PM

^^

The best formation we can have right now, taking into account Carlo's tactics.

There is just one thing we have to make sure of... Gila should be equipped with radiators to heat those benches. smile.gif

Posted by: kizo Mar 2 2008, 03:06 PM

We'll see this formation IMO

--------------Kalac-------------
Oddo--Nesta--Kaladze--Maldini
Gattuso------Pirlo----Ambrosini
--------Kaka--------Gourcuff (if fit, then Seedorf)
-------------Pippo----------


Pato coming in second half.

Posted by: misha Mar 2 2008, 03:08 PM

QUOTE (kizo @ Mar 2 2008, 04:06 PM)
We'll  see this formation IMO

--------------Kalac-------------
Oddo--Nesta--Kaladze--Maldini
Gattuso------Pirlo----Ambrosini
--------Kaka--------Gourcuff (if fit, then Seedorf)
-------------Pippo----------
Pato coming in second half.
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Carlo is gonna play himself before letting Gourcuff start in such game wink.gif

Posted by: Nova Mar 2 2008, 03:39 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 2 2008, 08:28 AM)
Why would he want to do something like that when he has Brocchinho available?
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Nice one !! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 2 2008, 03:52 PM

(from the news ticker on acmilan.com's italian page)

NESTA, PIRLO E KAKA': IL PUNTO
02/03/2008
MILANELLO - Sandro Nesta, Andrea Pirlo e Ricky Kakà hanno svolto l'intero allenamento odierno con i compagni, partecipando anche alla partitella. I tre giocatori stanno meglio e saranno a disposizione per martedì. Lo conferma anche il coordinatore sanitario del Milan, Jean Pierre Meersseman, che ha spiegato che gli ultimi test sostenuti dai tre rossoneri hanno dato esito positivo.

[Nesta, Pirlo, and Kaka took part in training today, also including the practice game. The three players are better and will be available Tuesday. Dr. Meersseman, the team doctor, also confirmed this, saying that the most recent tests on the players gave positive results.]

LE CONDIZIONI DEGLI ALTRI INFORTUNATI
02/03/2008
MILANELLO - Lo stesso coordinatore sanitario del Milan ha anche aggiunto che nel dopo partita di ieri Pato si è fermato più a lungo nello spogliatoio per alleviare il dolore provocato da una botta al ginocchio subita nel corso di Milan-Lazio. Il brasiliano oggi stava meglio e per domani sarà a posto. Durante la gara di ieri, Clarence Seedorf è stato costretto ad abbandonare il terreno di gioco anzitempo per un problema muscolare e resta in dubbio per martedì. Emerson, alle prese con il riacutizzarsi di un problema cronico alle tibie, si deve fermare. Per quanto riguarda Jankulovski, Marek contro l'Arsenal non ci sarà, l'obiettivo è rivederlo contro l'Empoli.

[Dr. Meersseman also noted that after yesterday's game, Pato stayed in the dressing room to alleviate pain from a knock to the knee he sustained during the Milan-Laizo game. The Brazilian is better and tomorrow will traiin with the team. During yesterday's game, Clarence Seedorfe had to elave the pitch due to a muscular problem and remains in doubt for Tuesday. Emerson is experiencing a chronic problem with is tibia and should rest. Jankulovski will not be available against Arsenal; the objective is to see him back for the game against Empoli.]

Posted by: mkenya Mar 2 2008, 04:40 PM

Why do i feel like we are going to lose this game? either way its gonna be good for us: a win will be a positive defence of our title, if we lose most likely the management will do something about rejuvenating the squad.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 2 2008, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (mkenya @ Mar 2 2008, 04:40 PM)
Why do i feel like we are going to lose this game? either way its gonna be good for us: a win will be a positive defence of our title, if we lose most likely the management will do something about rejuvenating the squad.
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Maldini want's the title. We won't loose..

Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 05:05 PM

Poor Janku. Maldini at LB then ...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 2 2008, 05:18 PM

I hope it's not Maldini at LB, that could be disasterous.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 2 2008, 06:03 PM

QUOTE (mkenya @ Mar 2 2008, 07:10 PM)
Why do i feel like we are going to lose this game? either way its gonna be good for us: a win will be a positive defence of our title, if we lose most likely the management will do something about rejuvenating the squad.
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Reminded me of a quote from Raging Bull; "... if you lose, you still win. there's no way you're gonna lose this one...".

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 2 2008, 07:48 PM)
I hope it's not Maldini at LB, that could be disasterous.
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You're OK with Favalli then?

Posted by: han2503 Mar 2 2008, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (mkenya @ Mar 2 2008, 03:40 PM)
Why do i feel like we are going to lose this game? either way its gonna be good for us: a win will be a positive defence of our title, if we lose most likely the management will do something about rejuvenating the squad.
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Have the same feeling

As for who starts at LB, I want Kaladze there. Maldini should start in the center next to Nesta

Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 07:01 PM

Kaladze never plays at LB. Carlo would rather play Bonera. Sigh..

Posted by: han2503 Mar 2 2008, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 2 2008, 06:01 PM)
Kaladze never plays at LB.  Carlo would rather play Bonera.  Sigh..
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He used to play at LB, and he was much better in that position, maybe doen't push forward much but very solid for the LB position.

And Bonera at LB doesn't even make sense, he struggles on the right and he a naturally right footed player. So when he's on the left it's twice as hard for him in that position.

Posted by: MizNelson Mar 2 2008, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 2 2008, 06:52 AM)
(from the news ticker on acmilan.com's italian page)

[Nesta, Pirlo, and Kaka took part in training today, also including the practice game. The three players are better and will be available Tuesday. Dr. Meersseman, the team doctor, also confirmed this, saying that the most recent tests on the players gave positive results.]
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Ever since the back injury two weeks ago, Dida hasn't been mentioned on acmilan.com at all. Is he being punished for something we don't know about? mad.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 2 2008, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 2 2008, 10:25 PM)
Ever since the back injury two weeks ago, Dida hasn't been mentioned on acmilan.com at all. Is he being punished for something we don't know about?  mad.gif
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They're just getting us used to Milan without Dida. I can't say I don't miss him...

Posted by: kizo Mar 2 2008, 08:39 PM

Match Official


Referee
Konrad Plautz (AUT)

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 2 2008, 08:47 PM

QUOTE (kizo @ Mar 2 2008, 08:39 PM)
Match Official
Referee
Konrad Plautz (AUT)
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Why does this name sound farmiliar and brings up good memories? What's his history with Milan?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 2 2008, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 3 2008, 12:47 AM)
Why does this name sound farmiliar and brings up good memories? What's his history with Milan?



Plautz was the referee in the European Super Cup game between Milan and Sevilla. And if my memory serves me correctly, he also officiated the match between Milan and Celtic, the one in which Maldini had a handball, and he didn't give the penalty. Respect! tongue.gif

Overall, he's a good, solid choice, and like you brings up good memories for me too.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 2 2008, 09:27 PM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 2 2008, 11:55 PM)
Ever since the back injury two weeks ago, Dida hasn't been mentioned on acmilan.com at all. Is he being punished for something we don't know about?

Yeah, I'm concerned too. Admittedly, Kalac has been performing rather solidly, and I'm afraid we won't be seeing Dida unless the Australian makes a couple of big mistakes - which going by his previous record might be right around the corner. Unless he's improved drastically. As much as I like Dida, and what he's done for the club, I can't help but deny the good work put in by the number 2. sad.gif I do hope everything works out well for everyone. We all want to see Milan do well, nonetheless.

By the way, love your new signature, Miz.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 2 2008, 09:34 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 2 2008, 08:42 PM)
Maldini wants the title. We won't loose..

I'd give anything for this year's European cup for Paolo, since this will be his last season. Not to mention he'll become the first captain to successfully defend the cup, plus the most successful captain king.gif (he's currently tied with three, though I may be wrong here).

In short, the only thing better than winning the cup would be the man himself, or his 23-year career (for that matter). Though admittedly, deep down in my heart I'm a tad scared myself. unsure.gif With the string of performances we've been putting up, and the scoreless draw in England, it might only take one goal to screw everything. Oh, Ronaldo, where art thou?

Posted by: MizNelson Mar 3 2008, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri)
They're just getting us used to Milan without Dida.

I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they should start doing the same thing with Gila.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 2 2008, 11:47 AM)
Why does this name sound farmiliar and brings up good memories? What's his history with Milan?
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Plautz also officiated the PSV match we drew at home in the '05-06 CL, during which Jaap Stam was seen yelling some colorful metaphors (in English, no less) at him.

QUOTE (acid911)
By the way, love your new signature, Miz.

Thanks. I wish it could be a happier one.

Posted by: dst Mar 3 2008, 01:20 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 2 2008, 10:34 PM)
Not to mention he'll become the first captain to successfully defend the cup, plus the most successful captain king.gif (he's currently tied with three, though I may be wrong
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He has won two as captain. In '03 and '07.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 3 2008, 02:53 AM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 3 2008, 04:44 AM)
Thanks. I wish it could be a happier one.

Me too. But Dida's a champion, he will lift himself and come back. Just look at Ronaldo, how many time he's been down, or Maldini for that matter. Whatever happens, happens for a good reason. Unless your name is Simic - in which case you're doomed and cursed to never play and lose your NT spot in the process. sad.gif

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 3 2008, 05:20 AM)
He has won two as captain. In '03 and '07.

Thought so. Still one more for Paolo, Rossoneri, one more for the man! devil.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 3 2008, 02:54 AM

hierro has the record with 3

Posted by: acid911 Mar 3 2008, 03:38 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 3 2008, 06:54 AM)
hierro has the record with 3

Yes, considerably. And Francisco Gento is the only player to be on 6 Champions Cup-winning sides. I still count the 2005 ours, but that's just me. goodheart.gif Paolo does have a chance to climb the record books even further, but this might be the toughest considering our squad and the opposing teams that we might draw against going forward. Speaking of longevity saw this on Wikipedia:

Paolo Maldini of AC Milan is the oldest (at 37 years old) player to score in a Champions League final, doing so in 2005. He is also the only player to play in the final of, and win the European Cup and the Champions League in three different decades: 1988-89, 1989-90, 1993-94, 2002-03 and 2006-07.

Posted by: m1ke Mar 3 2008, 10:20 AM

He's a legend of the game, not just for us Rossoneri, but for most of the footballing world. It'll be interesting to see what Galliani and co do in the summer to try and replace him king.gif

The bookies have made us strong favourites for this game, but I'm not so sure. I know we can beat Arsenal, but our current form isn't showing that and we'll need to match the performance against Utd last season to progress. Hopefully the San Siro will be rocking (did anyone manage to get a ticket?)

Posted by: m1ke Mar 3 2008, 10:27 AM

QUOTE
The reigning champions will not be unhappy if the tie provides an exact replica of their encounter at this stage 12 months ago when Milan earned a 0-0 draw on British soil in the first game, away to Celtic FC, before edging through in the return courtesy of Kaká's extra-time goal.

That secured Carlo Ancelotti's team a fifth successive quarter-final berth in the competition and they will be reasonably confident of making it six in a stadium where they have never been beaten by visitors from England. In eleven competitive contests Milan have won seven and drawn four with that sequence including a 2-0 win against Arsenal in the 1994 UEFA Super Cup, lifting the trophy by the same aggregate score.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 3 2008, 11:20 AM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Mar 3 2008, 12:50 PM)
The bookies have made us strong favourites for this game, but I'm not so sure. I know we can beat Arsenal, but our current form isn't showing that and we'll need to match the performance against Utd last season to progress.
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Unfortunately that is true... we might go through, but I'm somehow sure it will not be as convincing as last year against Manchester Utd. I think it's gonna be either a slight victory for us or penalty kicks in the end.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 3 2008, 03:27 PM

Controcampo is saying that Seedorf's condition has improved enough for him to possibly be available tomorrow, but that he'll start on the bench. Here's their projected lineup:

Kalac
Oddo Nesta Kaladze Maldini
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka
Inzaghi Pato

They're also saying that the game is sold out. I hope there's a good coreo tomorrow, and a very loud San Siro. devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

(http://controcampo.mediaset.it/articoli/articolo6469.shtml)

Acmilan.com's breaking news in italian tossed up an interesting tidbit: Arsenal are flying into Milan late this afternoon and will go straight to the hotel. They will NOT do any training/practice at the San Siro before the game. This...surprises me a bit.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 3 2008, 03:33 PM

Arsène Wenger has named the following 18-man squad for the UEFA Champions League clash with AC Milan.

The most notable absentee is Kolo Toure but Robin van Persie returns to the squad.

Jens LEHMANN (GK)
Abou DIABY
Bacary SAGNA
Cesc FABREGAS
Philippe SENDEROS
William GALLAS
Robin VAN PERSIE
Alexander HLEB
DENILSON
Mathieu FLAMINI
GILBERTO
Gael CLICHY
Manuel ALMUNIA (GK)
Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
Nicklas BENDTNER
Emmanuel EBOUE
Justin HOYTE
Theo WALCOTT

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=488406&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Van+Persie+named+in+18-man+squad+for+Milan+clash

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 3 2008, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 3 2008, 05:57 PM)
Acmilan.com's breaking news in italian tossed up an interesting tidbit: Arsenal are flying into Milan late this afternoon and will go straight to the hotel. They will NOT do any training/practice at the San Siro before the game. This...surprises me a bit.
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It surprises me a lot!

Posted by: Tennie Mar 3 2008, 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 3 2008, 10:27 AM)
Acmilan.com's breaking news in italian tossed up an interesting tidbit: Arsenal are flying into Milan late this afternoon and will go straight to the hotel. They will NOT do any training/practice at the San Siro before the game. This...surprises me a bit.
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I went back and took a look at the newsbit again and need to qualify the above just a touch. They won't do any training TODAY at the San Siro. The article doesn't say a word about what they'll do tomorrow.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 3 2008, 04:11 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 3 2008, 07:27 PM)
Acmilan.com's breaking news in italian tossed up an interesting tidbit: Arsenal are flying into Milan late this afternoon and will go straight to the hotel. They will NOT do any training/practice at the San Siro before the game. This...surprises me a bit.

Charming. I myself am a tad surprised. Wegner is a very wise man, he's not doing this without a reason. This could be a good strategy, or turn out to be a very bad one. The last thing the Arsenal players want is to be in awe of the San Siro at the time of the game. alien.gif

Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 3 2008, 05:31 PM

Here's some info from Arsenal.com:

Pace and patience will be the key qualities for Arsenal in Milan, according to Arsène Wenger.

The Frenchman flew out to Italy on Monday afternoon for a crucial Champions League Knockout Round second leg. The first game was billed as Italian guile and experience against English youth and pace.

The Anglo-Saxons had the edge at Emirates Stadium and should have profited from their second-half dominance. However Wenger feels that 0-0 is psychologically a good position for his side - as long as they heed the lessons of the first game.

"I do not like to go away from home thinking my team just has to defend," he said. "With a 0-0 result, we know that we have to attack as well as defend.

"From the first game, we have the belief we can beat them because we dominated the game - that always has an impact on the second game.

"We will need patience against them in Milan but our pace can be a good asset as well."

However the Rossoneri are the masters of brinkmanship in Europe. In the last five years they have been to three Finals, winning the trophy twice. Wenger expects a tactical affair in which the control of the tempo will mean control of the game.

"Milan have shown in Europe that they can deal with all sorts of opposition, they can slow the game down," said the Frenchman.

"What Milan do well is put you to their pace, and when Kaka gets the ball they can have sudden acceleration which can kill you.

"We will have to adapt to that because we like to play always at a high pace. In the end we should have won the first game because we were able to keep the game at a consistent high pace. We like to play at a consistent high pace, they like to play slow-quick.

"We have to be tight defensively out there because they tore Man United apart in the first 20 minutes of the second leg at the San Siro last season.

"It is important for us to start strongly in defence, but also not to hide every time we win the ball.

"What is good from the first result is we know every time we get the ball we are incited to go for a goal. When you win 2-0 away from home sometimes subconsciously you think you only have to defend. On that basis 0-0 is not a bad result because you know defence is not good enough. You know will have to attack as well."

Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 3 2008, 05:33 PM

Arsène Wenger will not send his side out to kick Kaka on Tuesday night. The Arsenal manager considers the Brazilian playmaker to be one of football's artists.

Wenger takes his side to Milan on Monday for a crucial Champions League Knockout Round second leg. The tie is locked at 0-0 and so goals will be at a premium. Kaka has all the attributes to unlock the Arsenal defence but Wenger, who has recently been critical of over-zealous tackles against his players, would never send out his side with malice a forethought.

"No chance, no chance," he said before the weekend game with Villa. "If you kick the great players out of games then why should people watch football? Great players make football a bit special - an art. If you kick them it is not acceptable.

"In Italy, what do the teams when they play against Milan? Take Kaka, get him out of the game. And you know how they will deal with that.

"But we will be faithful to what we do, we will try to deal with him by cutting the connections to him. We will play zonal and will not mark him man-to-man."

Posted by: Tennie Mar 3 2008, 06:06 PM

from acmilan.com (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=62957)

Call ups:

PORTIERI: Kalac, Fiori, Offredi
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Favalli, Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Oddo, Simic
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Emerson, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Seedorf
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Paloschi, Pato, Kakà.

Seedorf had individual training, so even though he's called up I don't think he'll start.

This week Kaka is a striker. Yay for Paloschi being named to the squad!

Posted by: dst Mar 3 2008, 06:21 PM

I hope to see Maldini in the center. Kaladze or Bonera at the flank.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 3 2008, 06:44 PM

You know Maldini will start at LB like he did last time. It's too bad, Kaladze would work better there. Maybe Carlo will get some sense?

Posted by: Darunia Mar 3 2008, 06:47 PM

Wish they would translate the press conference, some help Tennie? biggrin.gif EDIT: Nvm it's up there finally

Plus what do you guys think Arsenal will start with?

4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Senderos Clichy
Eboue Fabregas Flamini Hleb
Walcott Adebayor

or

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Senderos Clichy
Gilberto
Walcott Fabregas Flamini Hleb
Adebayor

Posted by: mkenya Mar 3 2008, 07:27 PM

Plus what do you guys think Arsenal will start with?

4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

I dont care how they start, I just want to see a hungry Milan devour the young gunners!!! so that Wenger never dares to say again "i think we can win there, we dominated at home":devil: devilsmiley.gif
FORZA MILAN!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 3 2008, 08:06 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 3 2008, 09:17 PM)
Plus what do you guys think Arsenal will start with?

4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Senderos Clichy
Eboue Fabregas Flamini Hleb
Walcott Adebayor

or

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Senderos Clichy
Gilberto
Walcott Fabregas Flamini Hleb
Adebayor
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I think 4-5-1 would make more sense. they just can't come to San Siro and mindlessly attack. I hope they do, but they probably won't.

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 4 2008, 12:28 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 3 2008, 04:27 PM)
Kalac
Oddo Nesta Kaladze Maldini
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka
Inzaghi Pato
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I'm definite this is going to be starting 11...

only maybe in 4-3-2-1 formation, with inzaghi as a lone striker...

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 12:32 AM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Mar 3 2008, 11:28 PM)
only maybe in 4-3-2-1 formation, with inzaghi as a lone striker...
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With Seedorf out, I can't see us playing 4-3-2-1 (unless you count Pato in the '2'). Pippo and Pato to start for sure, with Kaka behind.

Infact, I'd be very surprised to see any variation on the formation Tennie posted.

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 12:35 AM

Prediction: Pato will score the only goal of the game in the 78th OR the game will end 5-2 for Milan, Arsenal will score the first two goals of the game!! biggrin.gif

...

Maldini willing!

... devil.gif

Posted by: Besfort Mar 4 2008, 12:40 AM

Seedorf's absence may be a big blow for us tomorrow.
But, we are a strong team with great experience in football and especially in CL.
Experience is the most important thing in tough matches like this one were in.
Arsenal are strong, but not capable of winning against us. I'm sure they know that, entering San Siro, is worse than entering in Devil's hell.

Kaka and Pirlo are available and ready to humiliate young kids, and teach them a very sweet and nice lesson.

Forza Milan

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 12:44 AM

I'm still amazed that the Gooners aren't taking any training at the San Siro tonight. Walking into a place like that cold is bound to affect them. It really is going to be an inferno there tomorrow - the game's sold out and even though the FdL is a thing of the past, I imagine Brigate Rossonere and the other groups will come up with a respectable coreo or two for the occasion. Maybe Arsenal will go over early tomorrow or something, but...

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 01:32 AM

I think the bigger positive for us is the fact that Toure hasn't made the trip. I personally don't think Senderos will be able to play 90min without making a mistake in a packed out San Siro.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 03:52 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 4 2008, 10:35 AM)
Maldini willing!

classic devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 07:02 AM

This match needs to get over so I can get on with my life tongue.gif

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 4 2008, 07:02 AM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Mar 3 2008, 06:32 PM)
I think the bigger positive for us is the fact that Toure hasn't made the trip. I personally don't think Senderos will be able to play 90min without making a mistake in a packed out San Siro.
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Yeah i'm really glad toure isn't there. He'll shut pato and inzaghi down pretty good. Senderos will make "a" mistake. When in the game is the question and whether we'll captitalize or not in the situation.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 07:52 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 4 2008, 05:02 PM)
This match needs to get over so I can get on with my life tongue.gif
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hahahaha same! laugh.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:27 AM

Here is an article an Arsenal fan wrote on a - wait for it - Arsenal forum. Nothing that we already know, but still nice to find out what our opponent fans think of us. smile.gif

QUOTE
outlaw_member
03-03-2008, 10:19


The Arsenal squad will be preparing for arguably their most important game, so far this season. San Siro, which is the venue for the 2nd leg, is one of the most intimidating stadiums in Western Europe. Displaying some of the best choreography, that you could witness anywhere in the World. The tifosi are not only loud but a colourful bunch, like we witnessed at the Emirates. The Milanistas, pride themselves on their immense support to guide them through the Champions League campaign, similar to how Liverpool do with Anfield. A huge support can prove to be decisive in a tight game, and this tie, is as tight as it gets.

Clarence Seedorf picked up a hamstring injury, in Milan's recent league game, making him a major doubt for Tuesday. The Dutchman is an important component of Ancelotti’s midfield, which is vital in maintaining the tempo and counter-attacking tactic that Milan deploy. He was instrumental in the 3-0 destruction of United at the Semi-final stage, last season and losing him will definitely affect the Rossoneri. On the Arsenal front, Tomas Rosicky has been ruled out of the CL tie. The Czech playmaker was supposed to be back for the Blackburn game, several weeks ago, but is still yet to return. His injury problems seemed to be a thing of the past, when he managed to stay fit for a couple of months, only for it to return. The two club’s best defenders, Touré and Nesta, picked up injuries in the 1st leg at the Emirates. The Italian was past fit earlier today, whereas Kolo Touré will not be traveling with the Arsenal squad. Long term injuries to Ronaldo and Eduardo, has ruled them out of tie, the duo are out for 9 months. World Player of the year, Kaka and Andrea Pirlo have both been declared fit by Milan Lab coordinator Jean Meersseman, after taking part in training today. There’s also good news for Arsenal, as Robin Van Persie will be landing in Milan with the squad. The Dutchman has been making steady progress and his long awaited arrival is a boost for the Gunners.

On the weekend Arsenal continued their poor run of form, after just drawing against Aston Villa. A late strike by Bendtner ensured Arsenal stayed on top of the Premier League. Without a win in 4 games, Arsenal’s bad patch could not have come at a worse time. The United defeat two weeks ago, has affected the teams momentum, more than others had anticipated. AC Milan maintained their inconsistent form as they drew 1-1 with Lazio. With 5 draws in there last 6, the Italians will put there focus on winning the CL, as they struggle to capture 4th spot in Serie A.

With only a day left, all focus will be on how Arsenal can overcome the Italians. Will the players be able to repeat the same ferocious pace, they showed at the Emirates or will they crumble under the crowd, like Man Utd did last season. Milan could not possibly play as bad as they did in England. Their attacking players were non-existent and had to thank Arsenal’s profligacy in front of goal, and superb defending by their defenders to hold on for the draw. With an 80,000 crowd behind them, there will certainly be a big improvement from the Milan players. Can Arsenal do it? There’s only one way to find out. Bring on Tuesday.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:27 AM



Saw this video at another forum. It's made by Kaka_Nesta from ACMilanClub, and a very decent effort to say the least. Great way to get pumped up for the game, though I'd be surprised to see anyone that is not. devil.gif

ACMilanClub Milan Vs Arsenal Preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaDa83-gjVQ

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:41 AM



Another interesting read. Oh dear, Inzaghi has only a one-goal buffer between him and Raul. His 63 goals to the Spaniards 62. Extra motivation for him to score today? Plus all the rest he's had. Let's hope he comes good tonight, along with Kaka, Pirlo and Pato. cool.gif

UEFA Match Press Kit
http://www.uefa.com/printoutfiles/competitions/ucl/2008/e/e_301896_pk.pdf

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 10:51 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2008, 08:27 AM)
ACMilanClub Milan Vs Arsenal Preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaDa83-gjVQ
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Nice video! Cheers for the link buddy.

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 11:48 AM

Man, what a shambolic night it was! I had dozens of dreams about the game... lovely night!! biggrin.gif

I just can't wait!! Thanks for the link acid!

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 4 2008, 08:02 AM)
This match needs to get over so I can get on with my life tongue.gif
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Same here! laugh.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 01:00 PM

ٌWill we be there?!...


Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 02:00 PM)
ٌWill we be there?!...
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Like Silvio said, I'd love a Milan vs Real final! It would be a classic!! smile.gif

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 02:04 PM

QUOTE
AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti cut a relaxed figure before the make-or-break first knockout round visit of Arsenal FC as he revealed that the return of his leading lights offered plenty of cause for optimism.

Split personality
By their standards the Rossoneri have struggled in Serie A this term. On Saturday, Massimo Oddo's equaliser against S.S. Lazio gave Milan a fifth draw in six matches, leaving them 18 points behind leaders FC Internazionale Milano and four adrift of fourth-placed ACF Fiorentina – with qualification for next season's UEFA Champions League in the balance. However, if Carlo Ancelotti's side have a split personality, the pros outweigh the cons. Last year, for example, a disappointing league campaign was more than tempered by a seventh European Champion Clubs' Cup success.

'Extra special'
"It is difficult to explain why we play better in the Champions League other than to say that this competition has always meant something extra special to this club," said Ancelotti. "We've been through a sticky patch over recent games. We've had to get by without a number of players, but the fact most of them are back and have worked really well in training gives me the belief that they'll give another great performance."

Home form
Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Nesta, Andrea Pirlo, Kaká and Filippo Inzaghi are all expected to start after being rested against Lazio, although Clarence Seedorf, who strained a hamstring in the first half of that match, may join Emerson (shin), Marek Jankulovski (knee), Dida (back) and Ronaldo (knee) on the sidelines. Milan won all three group-stage games at the Giuseppe Meazza in the autumn, and knockout-stage victories here against Celtic FC, FC Bayern München and Manchester United FC last term have heartened Ancelotti.

'Patience'
"It is not by chance that we've always done well at home when we've had to," he said. "We always manage to play with the right attitude in these knockout situations. Nil-nil is a result which needs to be managed intelligently – we must call on all our skill and experience, we mustn't rush anything. In all our previous successes we managed to control the match. Patience is the key."

Uefa's summary of Carlo's pre-match conference

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 02:14 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 4 2008, 03:58 PM)
Like Silvio said, I'd love a Milan vs Real final! It would be a classic!! smile.gif
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I'd want that too, but Real will not make it to the final imo...

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 02:38 PM

6 hours to go. Can't wait freak.gif We are going to win and Pippo will score.

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 03:37 PM

Weather.com has predicted rain in Milan tonight (Cloudy with occasional light rain . Low 33F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%).



devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 03:57 PM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Mar 4 2008, 06:07 PM)
Weather.com has predicted rain in Milan tonight (Cloudy with occasional light rain . Low 33F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%).



devilsmiley.gif
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blink.gif Is the history repeating itself?! freak.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 04:21 PM

Rain?? Hee. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 04:36 PM

(Oh dear. Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that 4 of the visiting support have been arrested for trashing their hotel room. Apparently pictures were torn off walls, plants were overturned, fire extinguishers emptied, etc etc etc.)

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 04:37 PM

i'm not sure how i feel about this game.

on one hand, i would love for them to win this game

on the other hand...i kind of want them to lose. i still believe that winning the CL last year hurt our team more than helped us. we need to focus on serie a and our owners need a reality check with our team.

i don't know...i'm confused...forza milan! king.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 04:46 PM

Like Warchant said. This club needs a reality check.

Posted by: Nova Mar 4 2008, 05:00 PM

Actually wanting Milan not to win is kinda sad. Thinking if we lost that it would change the management way of thinking is stupid , cause they wont and they shouldnt.

If winning the CL had the effect of winning it again , i wont complain. cool.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 05:36 PM)
(Oh dear. Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that 4 of the visiting support have been arrested for trashing their hotel room. Apparently pictures were torn off walls, plants were overturned, fire extinguishers emptied, etc etc etc.)
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laugh.gif Hope they will feel equally frustrated after the game too.

QUOTE (Warchant @ Mar 4 2008, 05:37 PM)
on the other hand...i kind of want them to lose. i still believe that winning the CL last year hurt our team more than helped us. we need to focus on serie a and our owners need a reality check with our team.
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Our owners know the situation better than us... the thing is, for some reason they just don't want to do something in order to change it. They are content with seeing the team only fighting for the CL. Win or lose, if the want Milan to be a CL-only team they won't need to change much...

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 05:29 PM

Gazzetta is reporting that Seedorf is definitely out for the game. I think that news guarantees the 4-3-1-2 lineup.

Gazzetta also notes that a section of the Arsenal support are having a grand time in Piazza Duomo. According to the article, they've consumed roughly 500 litres of beer from the Autogrill sidewalk cafe alone. smile.gif Having eaten at said Autogrill, I can affirm that they probably made the wise choice in sticking with the beer -- the food there's awful. The only thing that makes the place worthwhile is the awesome view of the Duomo.

Posted by: redbabies Mar 4 2008, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 03:57 PM)
blink.gif Is the history repeating itself?! freak.gif
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yeppp

Posted by: redbabies Mar 4 2008, 05:48 PM

the last time I was scared, was last year against L'pool.... and the same feeling again (hope it ends up the same)

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 06:22 PM

Weather update: currently in Milan, there's a hailstorm (in italian: grandinata). Gazzetta seems to think it'll pass before the game starts.

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 06:26 PM

A storm is brewing devil.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 06:27 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 08:52 PM)
Weather update: currently in Milan, there's a hailstorm (in italian: grandinata). Gazzetta seems to think it'll pass before the game starts.
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I would be worried about the weather if I were an Arsenal fan!

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 06:34 PM

Hailstorm?? Then the condition of the pitch might worsen... I hope Wenger won't blame the weather if his team lose tonight!! tongue.gif

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 07:27 PM)
I would be worried about the weather if I were an Arsenal fan!
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I think they have enough experience to deal with rain and wind!! laugh.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 06:46 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 4 2008, 09:04 PM)
Hailstorm?? Then the condition of the pitch might worsen... I hope Wenger won't blame the weather if his team lose tonight!! tongue.gif
I think they have enough experience to deal with rain and wind!! laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif Not the wind and rain, but the boost they give to our players. Italians seem to have superstitions about rain and its effects (?!) blink.gif . I don't know... they're very superstitious...

Posted by: omahawi Mar 4 2008, 06:47 PM

All I have to say is they had better be ready to come out with more fire in their bellies then the last couple of days. It's going to take skill and passion to win this game tonight.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 06:50 PM

Let's go ragazzi! Let's tw4t those cynic french fockers!

Pato to score the winner.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 4 2008, 06:53 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 10:29 AM)
Gazzetta is reporting that Seedorf is definitely out for the game. I think that news guarantees the 4-3-1-2 lineup.

Gazzetta also notes that a section of the Arsenal support are having a grand time in Piazza Duomo. According to the article, they've consumed roughly 500 litres of beer from the Autogrill sidewalk cafe alone. smile.gif Having eaten at said Autogrill, I can affirm that they probably made the wise choice in sticking with the beer -- the food there's awful. The only thing that makes the place worthwhile is the awesome view of the Duomo.
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LOL i had a stomache ache when i ate thefood there this summer.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Warchant @ Mar 4 2008, 10:37 AM)
i'm not sure how i feel about this game.

on one hand, i would love for them to win this game

on the other hand...i kind of want them to lose. i still believe that winning the CL last year hurt our team more than helped us. we need to focus on serie a and our owners need a reality check with our team.

i don't know...i'm confused...forza milan!  king.gif
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ya i pretty much have the same opinion. if sum how by fate we're destined to win it again then so be it, but if were not going all the way i hope they lose tonight.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 06:55 PM

I cannot stress the importance of this game. Should we loose wholesale changes will be needed. If we win then changes will still be needed, but it can happen at a slightly slower rate

Again, if we loose, it will be time for a revolution we must clear the squad of the old generation and bring in new blood

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 4 2008, 07:05 PM

I hope we win. I would rather us be out later than now. its too embaracing sad.gif

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 4 2008, 07:09 PM

i'm going insane, i'm so tense i hope we win. WE HAVE TO WIN!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 10:22 PM)
Weather update: currently in Milan, there's a hailstorm (in italian: grandinata). Gazzetta seems to think it'll pass before the game starts.
All hail the king, then. The king of San Siro! king.gif

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 08:36 PM)
(Oh dear. Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that 4 of the visiting support have been arrested for trashing their hotel room. Apparently pictures were torn off walls, plants were overturned, fire extinguishers emptied, etc etc etc.)
Maybe they were doing early dress rehearsals for something? huh.gif

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 4 2008, 08:46 PM)
Like Warchant said. This club needs a reality check.
I agree. But I'd rather that reality check be slightly later rather than right now. dry.gif We can't save our season now, and are not in the position to do anything for the next one just yet. I'd rather we give a good account of ourselves in the only competition that matters, and then starting next season look for improvements in Serie A. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 07:47 PM

Official Lineups:

Kalac
Oddo Nesta Kaladze Maldini
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka
Inzaghi Pato

Almunia
Sagna Senderos Gallas Clichy
Eboue Flamini Fabregas Diaby
Hleb
Adebayor


no surprises for either side.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 07:52 PM

The only surprise for me is Diaby starting. Maybe no Walcott either, he's played well recently.

Milan lineup as expected.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 07:54 PM

That's what I thought yesterday but I heard a news report Walcott wasn't starting so thats why I wasn't surprised lol

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 07:59 PM

So it's Kaka, Pato and Inzaghi up front. Looks like Milan is going for the kill straightaway. devil.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:00 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 4 2008, 10:17 PM)
Official Lineups:

Kalac
Oddo Nesta Kaladze Maldini
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka
Inzaghi Pato

Almunia
Sagna Senderos Gallas Clichy
Eboue Flamini Fabregas Diaby
Hleb
Adebayor
no surprises for either side.
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They'll play with one striker... I knew Wenger wouldn't risk too much.

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 4 2008, 09:20 PM)
Pato to score the winner.
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Whenever you predicted he'd score a goal, he did! I hope you're saying it from the bottom of your heart this time as well cool.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 4 2008, 08:05 PM

I don't want to comment on Diaby cause it might come back to haunt me... I'll tell you what I think about him after the game! biggrin.gif

Posted by: javierk128 Mar 4 2008, 08:10 PM

come on milan, this is the time where the team must show why it´s the champion of europe, and why we are the most feared team in the world, milan in CL is other team i have the confidence that we will pass devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:14 PM

Guys, don't be too confident of qualification... it's 51 - 49.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 08:21 PM

Spot on, ZD. Nothing to be too over confident about, any team on its day has a chance to beat AC Milan, and this is the Champions League we're talking about. It will be a closely fought contest to the end.

PS. Changing topics, I just played the match on PES, and we beat Arsenal 3-1. tongue.gif

Posted by: fahad Mar 4 2008, 08:21 PM

why does carlo not start maldini at CB and kalazde at LB any idea??

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2008, 10:51 PM)
PS. Changing topics, I just played the match on PES, and we beat Arsenal 3-1. tongue.gif
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HAHA biggrin.gif I like that!

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (fahad @ Mar 4 2008, 02:21 PM)
why does carlo not start maldini at CB and kalazde at LB any idea??
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because you need consistency in your mid, they play off each other way to much to mess with that formula...with maldini not playing much, it's hard to get that.

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 08:30 PM

i hear music devil.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 08:33 PM

QUOTE
Preamble
Hello boys and girls, and welcome to Arsenal's last Champions League game of 2007-08. Yes, yes, I know that's a rather pessimistic outlook, but I've just seen the starting line-ups, and it looks like Arsène Wenger has decided to include Abou Diaby on the left wing. Winning in the San Siro - where Milan have won their last four in a row in the Champions League - looked a tall order for Arsenal on 11 men, so I'm going to say their chances of doing so with a massive gaping void where their left-winger should be are mighty slim indeed.

I might be posting some interesting color commentary from Guardian during the match. Once ever 10 minutes or so (or as something important happens). Pretty hilarious stuff. biggrin.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:34 PM

My body has started shaking. tongue.gif it's the first time since the Athens final...

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 08:38 PM

I'm not nervous for some reason. But it is 50-50.

FORZA MILAN!

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 08:38 PM

Let's goooo! Going to watch it now - speak to you guys soon.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 08:39 PM

if theres one thing this team has is they're able to raise their level of play in these games. i wouldnt be surprised if they pull off a victory (a la man u) but my gut feeling is a 1-1 draw (arsenal have not been shutout on the road this year)

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 08:39 PM

FORZA MILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!


IVT4 link: mms://itvbrdbnd-itv4.wm.llnwd.net/itvbrdbnd_itv4?h=68c827f6e0551016d50c30c4b2ad01ae

Posted by: Il Capitano Mar 4 2008, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 4 2008, 07:38 PM)
I'm not nervous for some reason.  But it is 50-50.

FORZA MILAN!
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I am not as cool as you, my knees are shaking.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:41 PM

Here we go.

FORZA MILAN!

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 08:41 PM

Argh!

I'm stuck at work - with no excuse to leave early - and will be following online commentary. Gonna be a mess for the next couple of hours!

That said, FORZA MILAN! devilsmiley.gif C'mon, ragazzzi, make us all proud and let's rock 'em on this dark and stormy night at the San Siro!

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 08:42 PM

Silvio just shook the hand of every Milan player before they stepped onto the pitch.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (m1ke @ Mar 5 2008, 06:42 AM)
Silvio just shook the hand of every Milan player before they stepped onto the pitch.
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96.gif king.gif king.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 08:43 PM

For those watching: any coreos? What's the noise level like?

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 11:13 PM)
For those watching: any coreos? What's the noise level like?
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Incredible... as always devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 08:45 PM

San Siro looks great. It's once more, time for a world class performance.

FORZA MILAN!!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 4 2008, 07:43 PM)
For those watching: any coreos? What's the noise level like?
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Incredible. It really is loud, both sets of fans are at full voice by the sounds of it.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 5 2008, 06:43 AM)
For those watching: any coreos? What's the noise level like?
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as high as it can get cool.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 08:46 PM

HERE WE GOOOOOOO...

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 08:48 PM

We cant even press in San Siro rolleyes.gif

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 08:50 PM

We need Seedorf.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 08:53 PM

(Barcelona 1-0 Celtic [4-2 Agg.] Xavi.)

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 08:53 PM

F@ck. Cleared from the line. We almost scored

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 08:53 PM

Great save from Alumnia. Then a very important header from Gallas. Should be 1-0.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:54 PM

Arsenal under a lot of pressure!

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 08:54 PM

milan looking great

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 08:56 PM

Pato looking GREAT!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 08:59 PM

(Sevilla 2-0 Fener. Alves + Keita biggrin.gif)

Adebayour is looking great, good hold up play and a nice shot from Diaby. Good game so far!

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 09:04 PM

What a chance for Pato but a very weak shot

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:04 PM

Great play from Kaka', incredible play. Poo finish from Pato though, should have scored, completely open.

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 09:05 PM

milan are looking like the better side

maldini playing great
kaka getting some spurts
pato playing great...should've scored
inzaghi seeing some balls as well

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:07 PM

Kaka on FIRE devil.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:12 PM

We must be careful about their counter attacks...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:13 PM

Again, great play from Adebayour. Very nice save from Kalac.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:18 PM

H;eb booked for a dive.. a little harsh if you ask me, clear contact.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:19 PM

Did Adebayor just **** the whole defense?

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:19 PM

Fabregas hit the post!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:20 PM

Fabregas off the crossbar.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:21 PM

Arsenal are controlling the match unsure.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:24 PM

Pato Amazing Dribble (7 Mins)
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841114

Maldini Header (8 Mins)
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841142

Diaby Shoot (13 Mins)
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841136

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:25 PM

WTF is wrong with Pirlo?! mad.gif

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:26 PM

We need Seedorf sad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:27 PM

(Sevilla 3-1 Fenerbahce [5-4 Agg.]

(United 1-0 Lyon [2-1 Agg.] Ronaldo)

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:27 PM

Passing has been atrocious

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:30 PM

Adebayor Shot (28 Mins)
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841156

Fabregas Shoot Hits The Bar (34 Mins)
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841168

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:32 PM

HT 0-0

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 09:32 PM

HT 0:0

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:32 PM

HT 0-0. Arsenal on top, unlucky not to have scored so far. Pirlo and Rino been very poor. Kaka' and Pato look very bright when they get on the ball, though.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:32 PM

Arsenal deserves to win this game, and they will.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 09:32 PM

Arsenal seem to be clawing their way back in the game. sad.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:33 PM

HT. 0-0

We played pretty good until the 20th or 25th minute. but then...

These young guns deserve credit.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:33 PM

lol ur surprised that arsenal is controlling the game? rolleyes.gif milan is playing the exact same they did at the emirates lol

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 09:33 PM

team needs to wake up and push up the field mad.gif

Posted by: Il Capitano Mar 4 2008, 09:34 PM

I don't have nice words for Pirlo right know..

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:34 PM

we had a few half chances, if that was gila on the on the pitch he would be crucified. nesta clearly fouled hleb who was just in the box and fabregas off the bar.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM

Had Pato scored that chance, the game would've been completely different now.

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM

Arsenal played better for the most of the first half. They have one more player in the center midfield and controlling the game, while Milan can't activate Pato and Pippo well. We must improve.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 03:35 PM)
Had Pato scored that chance, the game would've been completely different now.
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he had a couple of half chances two and he dint do much with it.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 5 2008, 12:03 AM)
lol ur surprised that arsenal is controlling the game? rolleyes.gif milan is playing the exact same they did at the emirates lol
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Don't be biased against Milan. we had a great 20 minutes at the start.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:37 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 4 2008, 08:34 PM)
we had a few half chances, if that was gila on the on the pitch he would be crucified. nesta clearly fouled hleb who was just in the box and fabregas off the bar.
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I agree people on the board are setting double standards, because its Pato, its down to a "lack of experience", when Gila misses "sell him" "he is shite" etc

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:37 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 03:36 PM)
Don't be biased against Milan. we had a great 20 minutes at the start.
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it was from minute 5 to minete 17-18, which isnt 20 minutes.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:39 PM

Every time we win the ball, we give it straight back

Accurate passing and possession football anyone?

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:39 PM

Its Pato's 3 chance. Gila has broken the "chance counter" machine with his performances.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 09:40 PM

We had a similar start to Man U but we scored an early goal in that one. If we scored here I felt like Arsenal would not have gotten going.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Mar 4 2008, 03:39 PM)
Its Pato's 3 chance. Gila has broken the "chance counter" machine with his performances.
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so has pippo, i love the guy. but he's been even more brutal with he's missing chances.

Posted by: javierk128 Mar 4 2008, 09:42 PM

we really need seedorf, but he isn´t available, so we have to do something with the players that are on the pitch and the bench, so continue like this,after all we had chances in the 1st time wink.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 4 2008, 09:44 PM

Pippo's and Pato's effort is visible, Gilardino's is invisible, that's the main difference. Pato has maybe a bad day, but Gila has maybe a good day. We don't need to talk about the differences, every fool can see that,..

We're not good enough. Oddo's crossing is as bad as allways, just like the first match he played for us. Pirlo is to week in center and Ambro not present enough. We need Emerson or someone more agile. It's not Ambro's match.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:45 PM

Kalac - doing well
Oddo - Doing alright, passing needs to be better
Maldini - playing poor
Nesta - Well
Kaladze - See Nesta
Gattuso - Not having a great impact, but hustling nontheless
Ambro - Some decent Interceptions
Pirlo - ...some good passes in early 1st half, but excpetionally poor for most of it
Kaka - Being shackled by Arsenal, Made a good run
Inzaghi - Was he on the pitch?
Pato - Missed a great chance which will come back to haunt us

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:47 PM

Game about to start again

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:47 PM

QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Mar 5 2008, 12:09 AM)
Its Pato's 3 chance. Gila has broken the "chance counter" machine with his performances.
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laugh.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 4 2008, 03:44 PM)
Pippo's and Pato's effort is visible, Gilardino's is invisible, that's the main difference. Pato has maybe a bad day, but Gila has maybe a good day. We don't need to talk about the differences, every fool can see that,..

We're not good enough. Oddo's crossing is as bad as allways, just like the first match he played for us. Pirlo is to week in center and Ambro not present enough. We need Emerson or someone more agile. It's not Ambro's match.
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LOL no effort? i see just as much effort with gila as pippo.

you see the bias is evident even in ur comment.

this isnt the gila vs. pato debate but rather the gila vs. pippo (since they both have similar roles when on the the field). both work just as had and both have played just as as bad but people tend to say nothing with pippo. at least they dont complain constantly.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:50 PM

Time and time again we squander possession

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:51 PM

Good tackle by Gallas on Kaka, Brilliant tackle by Maldini on Gallas

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:51 PM

God cry.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:52 PM

pato long shot wide

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM

PIRLO YOU MOTHER F**KER, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR FAULT

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM

WHERE IS PIRLO AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH HIM?????

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM

Crazy Pirlo, you dumb blink.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 09:54 PM

Now we're seeing why Pirlo will never win World Player of the Year. What the f*ck was that?

Did Carlo not give them a half time team talk!

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:55 PM

Inzaghi offside...again

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:56 PM

Good FK by Pirlo

Getting better

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:58 PM

Diaby and Eboue are by far the worst players for Arsenal

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 09:59 PM

We seem to be pushing them back a little

*crosses fingers and hopes he hasnt jinxed the squad*

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 09:59 PM

Puma warming up...

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 09:59 PM

NO EMERSON PLEASE NO EMERSON

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:00 PM

If Emerson comes on, i will perform Hari Kiri right here

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:01 PM

Offside call have been pretty shady for both side, some clear onsides being called off

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:02 PM

Brilliant Brilliant defending by Sandro, Pato's first touch let him down 2 seconds later though

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:02 PM

pato

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:04 PM

Arsenal tried to play on even though Gattuso was down, when their chance faded, they kicked it out

B*stards, then ITV says it was "Sporting"

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:05 PM

Kaka beats Fabregas for pace, turn Gallas (?) but hits his shot wide

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:06 PM

Good sliding interception from Maldini

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:08 PM

C'mon Pato. Let's go Milan!

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:08 PM

Pato, too much pressure. Dont compare him to Gila, pleaseee tongue.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:10 PM

Oddo hustles the ball away pretty well from Hleb (?)

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:10 PM

Emerson needs to come in imo.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:11 PM

Our left flank (weakest) seems awfully exposed...

EDIT: Gilagol on

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:11 PM

SuperGila coming in

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:11 PM

Gila in. Pippo out.

Let's go Alberto!

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:11 PM

Gila. Its either disaster or victory. I go for the first.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:12 PM

Walcott coming on

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM

But why Pippo?Why Pippo?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM

Eboue off, Theo on.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM

Walcott on [god help us!]

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM

Arsenal may be going for the jugular here

We will see how experience fares against raw speed...

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:13 PM

Walcott vs Maldini.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:14 PM

Referee duck out the way like a ninja laugh.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:15 PM

Clichy tried to assassinate Pirlo

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:16 PM

Oddo's long shot is deflected and has its venom taken out

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:17 PM

Who got a feeling we bribed this referee?

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:17 PM

OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

We got lucky the Arsenal player f*cked it up

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:17 PM

What a ball from Hleb..

Theo missed the chance to win the tie for Arsenal.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:17 PM

Saw the replay, Kalac made a brilliant save

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 10:20 PM

if Arsenal score now... we're out

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 10:20 PM

i still get confused with these home and aways

if this game ends 0-0 does it go to extra time?

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:21 PM

Come on ragazzi sneak in a goal

OOOOHHHH, Pato shot goes close

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Warchant @ Mar 4 2008, 09:20 PM)
i still get confused with these home and aways

if this game ends 0-0 does it go to extra time?
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Yeah

1-1 Arsenal go thru

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:22 PM

Please Senderos, make a mistake... sad.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:22 PM

When Kaka runs, he glides past players effortlessly

Kaka booked, for throwing ball away

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:23 PM

Kaka' yellow for throwing the ball down.

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 10:23 PM

kaka blink.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:23 PM

Kaka is getting p!ssed of and i dont blame him

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:24 PM

Pirlo with a FK...

nothing comes of it

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:25 PM

Pato dummies and feints, takes a shot...straight at Almunia

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:26 PM

Sevilla 5-5 Fener on agg

going into ET if scores stay same

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:26 PM

Goal Cesc

We are out

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:26 PM

It's over biggrin.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:26 PM

wow, gj pirlo were out

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:26 PM

Cesc, 1-0. Game over.

Posted by: misha Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

It's all over sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

beautiful

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

Fvck you Pirlo you motherfvcker cry.gif

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

Fabregas 0-1.

Good. We're out. Now let's thank Mr Galliani and Berlusconi for our beautiful season.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

We've been asking for it all game long. Why aren't we closing down the Arsenal midfield? We paid for it. They deserve it, simple as.

Posted by: Warchant Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

well, here now we can focus on serie a

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

COME ON GILA AND CARLO SHOW US SOMETHING mad.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:27 PM

where was the blowout r7 predicted? LOL

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 4 2008, 09:27 PM)
We've been asking for it all game long. Why aren't we closing down the Arsenal midfield? We paid for it. They deserve it, simple as.
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Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 4 2008, 04:27 PM)
We've been asking for it all game long. Why aren't we closing down the Arsenal midfield? We paid for it. They deserve it, simple as.
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thats exactly what i thought.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:29 PM

I'm glad. this will lead to a 'normal transfer window'.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:29 PM

I would rather loose to Arsenal than Man Utd

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 5 2008, 02:27 AM)
Good. We're out. Now let's thank Mr Galliani and Berlusconi for our beautiful season.

You forgot Mr. Ancelloti. sad.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2008, 09:29 PM)
You forgot Mr. Ancelloti. sad.gif
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Yep, he will be looking for a new club in the summer

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 04:29 PM)
I'm glad. this will lead to a 'normal transfer window'.
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dont worry the bald head will figure out how to fck things up like usual

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 4 2008, 09:30 PM)
dont worry the bald head will figure out how to fck things up like usual
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I hope to f****** god this wakes up the board

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:31 PM

the pathetic thing about this is we look like the away side. i hope they get a nice round of jeers at the end because this team is disgraceful especially the coach.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 5 2008, 12:57 AM)
We've been asking for it all game long. Why aren't we closing down the Arsenal midfield? We paid for it. They deserve it, simple as.
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That's why I said Emerson should come in...

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:31 PM

WE did not deserve to win, Milan did not deserve to win, San Siro did not deserve to win.

Good luck to Silvio in the elections in April.

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 10:31 PM

well done to Arsenal... deserved.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:32 PM

Our management must understand that having 12 or 13 good players and 90% of them old and past their best is just pathetic for a top club.

Ambrosini must quit Milan. Really. Playing with 10 players every match it's difficult.

Gattuso can't run. Even players like Fabregas or Hleb are faster.

We're out. We deserve shite.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 04:31 PM)
That's why I said Emerson should come in...
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DUDE we have ambrosini,gattuso and even pirlo. they cant fcking close down their midifeld? then wtf are the on the field for.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:33 PM

Now finishing out of top 4 in the league would be a complete disaster.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:34 PM

0-2 laugh.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:34 PM

Adebayor goal

....

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:34 PM

smile.gif

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:35 PM

Great. Adebayor.

Just great. This era is over. Revolution is needed in the club. Bring Mourinho in ffs Berlusconi.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:35 PM

This is a revolution or Silvio and co's departure.

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:35 PM

dp

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM

Easy, just so easy. I mean, Milan don't turn up in the league and usually do it big in the CL. But they deserved to lose possibly even more than 0-2. What is going on.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM

HAAHAH go hide urselves, what a disgrace this team is. poor maldini, ends a great career with these bums.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM

Would be interesting to hear Carlo's comments after the game. Since he's used up all his excuses in Serie A, we'll most probably hear that Arsenal played well and they deserved to win. He paid for his rigidness, (and so did the board). Where's the creativity in the midfield, you silly rabbit? No Seedorf, and this means no Gorcuff - we go in with three strikers and expect Pirlo to do all the dirty work.

Oh, and bring on Emerson as a substitute. Absolute gem of a strategy. huh.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM

good night everyone... you know i'm not as sad as i usually would be, don't know why

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 4 2008, 09:35 PM)
Great. Adebayor.

Just great. This era is over. Revolution is needed in the club. Bring Mourinho in ffs Berlusconi.
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I can say i want Mourinho now

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:37 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Mar 4 2008, 09:36 PM)
good night everyone... you know i'm not as sad as i usually would be, don't know why
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Im with you, i was expecting it

Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 4 2008, 10:37 PM

The did the impossible, they deserved it.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 10:38 PM

Well, on the bright side of things, I finished two reports at work that I probably would've dragged my heels on.

Sounds like the Gooners got a deserved win tonight.

Milan...well, I'm not going to be as negative as some of the others here, but things really do have to substantially change for the team to accomplish anything at all next year. On the not-necessarily-bright side of things, it's going to be all over the Italian press from now til June.

Posted by: kaka_sheva Mar 4 2008, 10:39 PM

my week has been nothing but crappy, and i was seriously hoping this game to cheer me up.

cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

and it's not like we're doing any better in the serie A.

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 4 2008, 10:40 PM

Our whole self-image destroyed has been destroyed by one shot from a young spaniard. From now on this season is a total disaster. Not that this was so unexpected after all but hey....
Arsenal won this tie deserved. They were better at the Emirates and they were better at the Siro. Congrats to them.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:41 PM

Oh my god ohmy.gif Maldini cry.gif his dream of reaching Moscow... cry.gif it's all over now? I can't believe. he should've retired in Athens... cry.gif with the cup in his hands... sorry God, but there's a limit to everything, even ambition.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 10:42 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Mar 5 2008, 02:36 AM)
good night everyone... you know i'm not as sad as i usually would be, don't know why

Yeah, me neither. I guess it's because of Paolo's last match in Europe. It's almost as bad as the shtick against Korea in 2002, but still I want to see happy memories associated with the final outing of our captain. I just see Maldini's career flyby my eyes, so this match doesn't hurt. cry.gif

I've felt worse. It's just sad to see he had to end his career with these cartoon characters.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 5 2008, 02:35 AM)
Just great. This era is over.

Very aptly put. wink.gif

Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 4 2008, 10:45 PM

I don't want to stir things up, but...damn we deserved this.
We played an absolutely flawless game, and Milan were never even close.

Credit to Maldini for urging his team on despite being 1 goal down with 6 minutes to play though.

Posted by: javierk128 Mar 4 2008, 10:46 PM

i hope this will make berlusconi and galliani think about the team, not every year we can expect that will apear a super kaka (las season), or pato (this one) so, i hope at least one world class forward (drogba, sheva, i don´t know... someone) and 3 defenders, FUCKING kaladze, theo walcott made him look like a serie B defender mad.gif realmad.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:46 PM

anyways i'm not mad one bit, i saw this coming miles away, actually during summer when people were content with emerson and an 17 year old who wasnt able to play yet. yet we were favorites for the league and the CL rolleyes.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 4 2008, 10:46 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 10:41 PM)
Oh my god ohmy.gif Maldini cry.gif his dream of reaching Moscow... cry.gif it's all over now? I can't believe. he should've retired in Athens... cry.gif with the cup in his hands... sorry God, but there's a limit to everything, even ambition.
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I don't get senitimenal about this. It's what Paolo wanted and it makes him an even bigger player. He could have had the best show possible for his retirement last year. But this guy just wanted to play some more football while he knew another CL win was not too likely with this squad.

Btw...still don't want Mr. Mourinho in Milan. I might be the only left to defend Carletto but no other coach would have done much better than he did. Like Porty said, this era is over, this team is burned out. It seems that they don't have do give anything more.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 4 2008, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Mar 4 2008, 09:45 PM)
I don't want to stir things up, but...damn we deserved this.
We played an absolutely flawless game, and Milan were never even close.

Credit to Maldini for urging his team on despite being 1 goal down with 6 minutes to play though.
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No offence taken, Arsenal fully deserved the win

Best of luck reaching Moscow

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 10:47 PM

In other news...wow. Sevilla and Fenerbahce have gone to extra time. It's 5-5 (total from both games).

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 4 2008, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 4 2008, 10:36 PM)
HAAHAH go hide urselves, what a disgrace this team is. poor maldini, ends a great career with these bums.
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Hold it,..I've seen worse Milan displays in my life.

This match was NOT a deserved win by Arsenal, it was a perfect tie. Both teams had their strong moments, and towards the end period we did take off and probably would have scored. Fabregases shot was a lucky goal and a bad reflex by Kalac. 100% his fault.

YES!!
We got eliminated!

NOW:
-get us the 4th position in SA
-get rid of Gilardino, bring a new RB and GK
-bring fresh midfielders
-a new big-name striker and CB

All those transfers in one period? Hell yes, we waited for that. Now, it's coming.
And of course, Ancelotti stays. If not,..Lippi is the man.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 5 2008, 02:38 AM)
Well, on the bright side of things, I finished two reports at work that I probably would've dragged my heels on.

Lucky for you. I still have to wrap up two projects that I'm working on. On the flip side, however, I don't feel too sad, so as to drag them on any longer. smile.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:48 PM

I'm not sure the era is over! I mean if it's Galliani... you know the old story...

But seriously we needed to get eliminated. think about it for a moment...

I expect Carlo to step down at the end of the season like a good boy. or I'm gonna go over to Milan and choke him with my own hands mellow.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 4 2008, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 4 2008, 10:47 PM)
Hold it,..I've seen worse Milan displays in my life.

This match was NOT a deserved win by Arsenal, it was a perfect tie. Both teams had their strong moments, and towards the end period we did take off and probably would have scored. Fabregases shot was a lucky goal and a bad reflex by Kalac. 100% his fault.

YES!!
We got eliminated!

NOW:
-get us the 4th position in SA
-get rid of Gilardino, bring a new RB and GK
-bring fresh midfielders
-a new big-name striker and CB

All those transfers in one period? Hell yes, we waited for that. Now, it's coming.
And of course, Ancelotti stays. If not,..Lippi is the man.
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I think Arsenal really deserved to win. We didn't have any good chances IMO. Fabregas shot? I agree, it was good bu Kalac....he was that fast it looked like a slow motion. Of course I agree with everything starting with.
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NOW:

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 4 2008, 04:47 PM)
Hold it,..I've seen worse Milan displays in my life.

This match was NOT a deserved win by Arsenal, it was a perfect tie. Both teams had their strong moments, and towards the end period we did take off and probably would have scored. Fabregases shot was a lucky goal and a bad reflex by Kalac. 100% his fault.

YES!!
We got eliminated!

NOW:
-get us the 4th position in SA
-get rid of Gilardino, bring a new RB and GK
-bring fresh midfielders
-a new big-name striker and CB

All those transfers in one period? Hell yes, we waited for that. Now, it's coming.
And of course, Ancelotti stays. If not,..Lippi is the man.
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it's not the individual performance. it's their attitude really, i dint see any motivation all year long. FFS, maldini was the most motivated player on the team!

the only ones who showed up for this was kaka and maldini. our whole season is supposedly about winning this trophy, well they dint show that at all.

oh ya and theres also the fact that they've been shite all year, maybe 2 or 3 good performances.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 4 2008, 10:51 PM

I dedicate this loss to Eduardo! sad.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 10:55 PM

oh and flilipo, arsenal hit the cross bar, denied a perfectly good free kick on the edge of the area, the senderos sitter along with a handful of good half chances and all the space their midfield was given. milan was asking for it and they paid for it with the fabregas goal.

and guess what arsenal scored 2 goals, milan never looked like scoring.

arsenal managed the ball perfectly, milan struggled to get the ball to the halfway line. deserved win.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 4 2008, 10:57 PM

-Out of Coppa (Catania)
-Out of Champions League (Arsenal)
-5th place with 26 matches played in Serie A, 18 points behind the leader and 5 points less than last year

Our squad is poor.
But the problem is that Ancelotti can't motivate the team anymore. He can't.

We need a revolution: new players and new staff in. New blood in.

Berlusconi looked really pissed off the end of the match. It's good. Because now we know this era is over and Mourinho will be our coach by June. smile.gif

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