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Posted by: Zed.D Apr 8 2012, 03:29 PM

Mods feel free to move this to the right thread.

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Allegri: 'I don't feel at risk'
By Football Italia staff

Massimiliano Allegri sniped “some couldn’t wait for us to lose,” but insists his job is not on the line as speculation grows Milan will fire him if he fails to win the Scudetto.

The last week has been disastrous for the Rossoneri, who dropped a four-point lead to fall behind Juventus in the Serie A table and were knocked out of the Champions League by Barcelona.

“I absolutely do not feel at risk,” insisted Allegri after the 2-1 home defeat to Fiorentina.

“Certain evaluations are down to the club and will only be made at the end of the season. I prefer to concentrate on what we have to do right now.”

President Silvio Berlusconi was critical of Allegri’s approach during the two legs against Barcelona, fuelling speculation failure to win the Scudetto will result in a new Coach.

“We all have to live it day by day, game by game, because too many calculations have been made over the past few days.

“There are still seven rounds to go. Everyone said Juve had a great chance of winning the Scudetto when they were behind us, so I don’t see why we shouldn’t in the same position.”

Allegri also sniped at the media and chasing pack after the shock 2-1 home defeat to Fiorentina, which saw Milan go in front with a very dubious penalty.

“I realised that many, let’s say the vast majority, couldn’t wait for Milan to lose. There, it happened. Now we will move forward.

“Nobody expected this defeat, not even us, but we have the character to get back on our feet. It can happen in a season. Don’t forget we had a long run-up to go four points clear of Juve, so you do pay for this strain. It’s not over yet, though.”

La Gazzetta dello Sport is already speculating on potential replacements for Allegri, including Marco van Basten, Marcello Lippi, Fabio Capello and the promotion of Clarence Seedorf.


laugh.gif laugh.gif Imagine that...

Posted by: acid911 Apr 8 2012, 03:31 PM

Imagine that, indeed. laugh.gif tongue.gif Oh, and by the way, this seems like the right thread, it's news after all.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 8 2012, 07:22 PM

Allegri out + Tevez in and I will find it difficult to care how we do next season.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 8 2012, 07:26 PM

And you do know that both are very valid possibilities. unsure.gif Distinctly valid possibilities.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 8 2012, 07:31 PM

Rumour has it that Berlusconi and Galliani had a fallout yesterday, not sure whether it was over Allegri or not. Personally I think Allegri is doing a good job, and but for injuries and dodgy decisions we would almost be champions by now. If we are to change manager at the end of the season I think it would be a bad move.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 8 2012, 07:54 PM

^^

+1. we first need to make changes in MilanLab, then the team and finally the coaching staff!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 8 2012, 08:01 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 8 2012, 02:31 PM) *
Rumour has it that Berlusconi and Galliani had a fallout yesterday

Where'd you see that? huh.gif

Posted by: acid911 Apr 8 2012, 08:02 PM

Berlusconi and Galliani have had fallout before on Pato, so no surprises there. sleep.gif Now that Mr. B is back full time, expect more of this in the coming weeks and months.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 8 2012, 08:13 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 8 2012, 08:54 PM) *
^^

+1. we first need to make changes in MilanLab, then the team and finally the coaching staff!


Wouldn't be too bad if we changed coach at first. sleep.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 8 2012, 08:53 PM

There was a nice article by Luca Serafini (a very informed Milan fan and journalist that I highly esteem) on TMW today, which I decided to translate and post here.

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The aftermath of Milan-Fiornetina is characterized by frustration and anger. Many people have raised their voice, starting from those fans who want out all the senators, passing by those who don't consider the latest signings to be of Milan quality. It may not be appropriate to overreact after every negative result, but the last three - which might compromise Milan's season - have especially angered Berlusconi. He doesn't forgive to Allegri the lack of an identity of football that resembles his philosophy of the beautiful game. Even though he reluctantly accepted the changes of Ronaldinho and Pirlo with Robinho and van Bommel (and now, to an extent, with Emanuelson and Muntari), he's determined to intervene personally by not only changing the coach, barely tolerated until now, but also by changing the players. Do not expect a pharaonic signing campaign: it will be a matter of ideas that will pass through Berlusconi at first hand. At this point of the season, it is not suitable to talk about revolutions and all, but the rage and frustration that is mounting by the hour at Arcore might let slip out more than a few rumors.

Exactly like those at San Siro after the Fiorentina game, where supposedly Ibrahimovic was furious at Allegri and the athletic trainer, Tognaccini, frustrated about the line-up and the many injuries that have plagued the team. Ibra wants a more creative and less muscly team (with maybe Emanuelson as LB and Aquilani as AM). Maybe also expect from some of his teammates to bear pain to a higher degree, instead of forfeiting whenever there's the slightest of injuries. As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it? A question that needs to be answered as soon as possible.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc3Nzk4

Posted by: acid911 Apr 8 2012, 09:20 PM

Great job, X-Off. king.gif Perfectly sensible views.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 8 2012, 09:25 PM

But what can Allegri do if he's not given the right players to play like Barca? Galliani has been doing well to get us where we are for with little money. Once Silvio starts dipping his hand in his pocket then he has the right to complain, but until then he ought to keep quiet.

And let's be serious, in the first game against Barca we did excellently to stifle them and in the second we had them rocking and only the award of the dubious second penalty kept them in the game. Against Fiorentina the whole team looked tired which is understandable given that we have so many injuries we can't rotate players. It is not all down to Allegri.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 8 2012, 09:33 PM

Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 8 2012, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 8 2012, 09:33 PM) *
Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?


Something to do with Allegri's training methods? I think they have been questioned for being too physical which is part of the reason why we've had so many injuries. Personally I just think they're using Allegri as a scapegoat.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 8 2012, 10:38 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 8 2012, 10:33 PM) *
Didn't understand what was mean't by this bit:

As for Tognaccini and the athletic training, could it be possible that he suddenly overturned everything without understanding anything about it?


I didn't understand it very well either what he meant, in Italian, but I guess the general idea is what I_Rossoneri wrote above.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 9 2012, 12:14 AM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 8 2012, 04:45 PM) *
Something to do with Allegri's training methods? I think they have been questioned for being too physical which is part of the reason why we've had so many injuries. Personally I just think they're using Allegri as a scapegoat.

Thanks. Understood. wink.gif

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 8 2012, 05:38 PM) *
I didn't understand it very well either what he meant, in Italian, but I guess the general idea is what I_Rossoneri wrote above.

Makes some sense I guess.

Posted by: William405 Apr 9 2012, 10:09 AM

Well,did such injuries when Allegri was in charge of Cagliari?I don't have any idea about his training methods,but I doubt Conte is not as physical(if not more) in his training methods,and do you see any injuries.Maybe though,some Milan players cannot withstand too much physical training,which is weird because I see the likes of Boateng as an athletic beast,so is Thiago Silva in some way.I really doubt it has to do with Allegri's training methods...more than the incompetence of our medical team.I mean let's say,it's Allegri's fault,but once the medical team is getting that injured player,and then failing to get him back at the "correct" time,or doubling his injury time,then there is something wrong.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 9 2012, 11:40 AM

First of all, thank you X-O for the nice translation and good piece of journalism smile.gif

Secondly, yes we need to make changes, but the coach shouldn't be excluded. But only if Capello or another fox could be signed I'd go for it. As for the training methods: well that's happened before as well. For example Ottmar Hitzfeld did it at Bayern season after season and the FC Hollywood team turned into a FC Infirmary. So I wouldn't discard the possibility that injuries are connected with the sessions. That sure isn't the sole reason or even the biggest reason, but it is one I'll acknowledge.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 9 2012, 12:31 PM

I think we can all agree that our injuries are a result of a combination of many things. bad pitch, incompetent medical staff, incompetent fitness coaches, even training methods.

That said, and I'm not a doctor but my common sense says that the training methods shouldn't be an issue if all the other problems are resolved. I guess it just aggravates the problem if there exists one.

As for who should be the manager next season, I'd rather stick with Allegri than bring the likes of Capello and Lippi. I want a young coach who's eager to win trophies not old men who have already won everything there is to win. not to mention their school of thought which is very old fashioned (I'm not saying Allegri's is oh so modern).

Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.

Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 12:51 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 12:31 PM) *
Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.


Funnily enough I was just reading that Silvio wants MVB as coach next season as well! MVB has signed a one year extension at Heerenveen but the article said a phone call from Berlusconi would bring Marco back.

Here is the translated article:
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Silvio Berlusconi dreams of Marco Van Basten as coach of Milan: "Conte seems very fanatical in the dock". This phrase could represent the beginning of the adventure of Marco Van Basten on the Milan bench. The rossonero ex-delantero some time ago was expressed in the duel Juve-Milan and said about Zlatan Ibrahimovic: "I don't know if I was more specific, but I know that he is also scoring much and who makes goals marked differences in football, but it is important that the team believes sometimes, because the goal is a matter of both".

It seems that the Swan of Utrecht is already studying the movements of Milan and the best conditions to get the great talent of Ibra. All sensations, but very strong. A fortiori after the unexpected fall against Fiorentina.

The continuous malhumores of Silvio Berlusconi are unambiguous signals that sometimes appear on the result. The 0-0 against Barcelona at San Siro, the President of the Milan fought almost rostrum with Galliani. Discussion born by the lack of the "good game" by the rossoneri, unlike the blaugrana. Nothing to say about the outcome as it is obvious, but Berlusconi is a President who looks also to the provision and not only to the success.

The truth is that Allegri has changed to this Milan, especially in the Middle, throwing to Pirlo and getting physical and muscular players. But now, the team is without quality in the middle and growing problems. Not only hear cries from the rostrum of honour. Zlatan Ibrahimovic was really angry after the defeat by Fiorentina, because from the center of the field balls that could play him failed.

We know the importance of the views of Ibra in Via Turati club, so much so that some signings arrived last season after receiving their acceptance, as cases of Robinho or Van Bommel. Therefore, if Swedish begins to murmur against Allegri too (something which appears increasingly more constant), the rossonero club could take into consideration the hypothesis of closing the adventure with the technical livornés ahead of time.

What can weigh even more in this decision obviously is not win this scudetto. Allegri is especially charged the mismanagement of the injured. Starting with Thiago Silva used in a frenetic manner in the semifinals of the cup of Italy, something that seemed more a personal duel against Conte to a football match. Apart from duck and Cassano, is the mystery of Boateng where Milan this year barely has been able to count on him.

But the crucial question is the ideology of game. Berlusconi, as a man of the sport, may set aside a style of play but only if get great results. Win the scudetto for the second consecutive year might be the only reason why keep Massimiliano Allegri. If it is not, change and start again. Under other bases, the possession of ball for example, aspect has always exalted the rossonero President.

And Marco Van Basten embodies perfectly what that could be a model Milan to create again. The Dutch familiar with the environment and is very estimated by Berlusconi. Not to mention the fans rossoneros that are still very close to the Noord. They van Basten could teach much Ibra and his companions, telling them how best to serve them. It is true that the Swan of Utrecht has just signed with the Heerenveen for the next season, but a call from Berlusconi could suffice for a great change of scene.

These are therefore possible changes that you can see on the horizon. Galliani face after the defeat on Saturday was eloquently and their deafening silence. I don't want to make any statement to talk directly to the team at Milanello. The Group should once again be together right away, already think in the future then. But moemnto, Allegri seems destined to stay far away from Milan.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 9 2012, 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 04:31 PM) *
Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.

What has poor old Mauro ever done to you, Zed. ohmy.gif Heartless, very heartless! tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 02:16 PM

I would be very excited about van Basten. He represents a philosophy of football opposite to that of Allegri's, and we desperately need an offensive Milan, characterized by ball possession and quality in the middle, instead of this huff-and-puff version that relies on long balls when the going gets tough.

Posted by: William405 Apr 9 2012, 02:21 PM

Haven't we suffered enough with Leonardo...

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 9 2012, 03:21 PM) *
Haven't we suffered enough with Leonardo...


Leonardo is a n00b.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 9 2012, 02:37 PM

Basten is another noob, not as classy in presentation, maybe with a bit more experience, surely much more hotheaded, but still very much a noob. sleep.gif I've already mentioned this a while back. While I won't be totally against his move here, but things will surely get much more interesting, both on and off the field if he does.

Posted by: William405 Apr 9 2012, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 04:23 PM) *
Leonardo is a n00b.


And,Van Basten?Come on,don't be so bias!Everyone wants past legends to become great coaches.But,that's like starting from scratch,if Van Basten has showed some promise managing his current team then ok.Fact is,I'd rather keep Allegri,instead of starting from scratch again...If a great coach is available then by all means go for it,I'm not saying Allegri should be untouchable,but it depends on the circumstances.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 05:07 PM

I have a Dutch friend who is also a Milan fan and he doesn't rate Van Basten as a coach, from what he says Van Basten is like Leonardo so expect us to take heavy beatings if he takes over. Also, if Van Basten was to take over he won't be able to play this wonderful football with the team we've got so Berlusconi will have to delve into his pockets to buy us players that can play that way, and I can't see that happening. I'd sooner keep Allegri and give him some better players.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 05:09 PM

Also, just because previous players have been excellent for us it doesn't mean they will make great managers.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 05:20 PM

It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:20 PM) *
It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.


But didn't Galliani and Berlusconi both decide Allegri was the right man for the job?

Personally I'd love to see us playing the most beautiful football in the world, but when Galliani has to go looking for the cheapest players or players looking for a way out of their clubs this will never happen. We need to start buying top quality players that will actually cost money, and unless Berlusconi actually wants to splash the cash then we'd better get used to Allegri's style of play.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 05:35 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:28 PM) *
But didn't Galliani and Berlusconi both decide Allegri was the right man for the job?

Personally I'd love to see us playing the most beautiful football in the world, but when Galliani has to go looking for the cheapest players or players looking for a way out of their clubs this will never happen. We need to start buying top quality players that will actually cost money, and unless Berlusconi actually wants to splash the cash then we'd better get used to Allegri's style of play.


Galliani: "Unlike with previous coaches, me and Allegri decide together. We sit on a table and evaluate all the possibilities available".

That's what Galliani said some time ago. That shithead of a coach has a big say in our signings. If Galliani told him "Muntari is available on loan, what do you think?", Allegri wouldn't hesitate twice to give him the green light. And if we had more money at disposal, he would go for Asamoah instead, who's like Muntari but 10x better. That's the kind of players he likes. No wonder he replaced Pirlo with van Bommel, and our trequartista's are Boateng and Emanuelson. F@cking disgrace!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:35 PM) *
Galliani: "Unlike with previous coaches, me and Allegri decide together. We sit on a table and evaluate all the possibilities available".

That's what Galliani said some time ago. That shithead of a coach has a big say in our signings. If Galliani told him "Muntari is available on loan, what do you think?", Allegri wouldn't hesitate twice to give him the green light. And if we had more money at disposal, he would go for Asamoah instead, who's like Muntari but 10x better. That's the kind of players he likes. No wonder he replaced Pirlo with van Bommel, and our trequartista's are Boateng and Emanuelson. F@cking disgrace!


Didn't Pirlo want a three year deal, while we offered him a one year deal?(like we do with all over 30's)

And I can't see how Allegri has much of a say in our signings, if he did then he's surely got to be the first manager in a long time to be able to do that. Remember the players Leonardo wanted, but he didn't get any as they cost too much! Look at who we signed - Muntari, cost nothing and we actually got 2.5m from merda for him. Urby 1.5m. Ibra 24m over three seasons. Not sure about prince but I doubt it was much. These are all Galliani type cheap deals that keep costs down.

And hasn't Van Bommel been a revelation? He's been one of the resons we've done so well IMO.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 05:59 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
Didn't Pirlo want a three year deal, while we offered him a one year deal?(like we do with all over 30's)


And we could have easily offered him a three-year deal if Allegri wanted to. That was just a poor excuse for them to get him the f@ck outta here.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
And I can't see how Allegri has much of a say in our signings, if he did then he's surely got to be the first manager in a long time to be able to do that.


Those are the words from Galliani himself. Him and Allegri decide together.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
Remember the players Leonardo wanted, but he didn't get any as they cost too much! Look at who we signed - Muntari, cost nothing and we actually got 2.5m from merda for him. Urby 1.5m. Ibra 24m over three seasons. Not sure about prince but I doubt it was much. These are all Galliani type cheap deals that keep costs down.


Not an excuse. We signed these players because Allegri gave the green light. A coach wouldn't approve of players he wouldn't have a need for. As good as he is, Galliani could have looked elsewhere and signed someone more suitable to our case.

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 9 2012, 06:43 PM) *
And hasn't Van Bommel been a revelation? He's been one of the reasons we've done so well IMO.


I'm not talking about the quality of the player. No doubt van Bommel has been great for us. But he also proves what I've been saying, which is that Allegri prefers muscly players to creative ones.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 9 2012, 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 07:31 AM) *
I think we can all agree that our injuries are a result of a combination of many things. bad pitch, incompetent medical staff, incompetent fitness coaches, even training methods.

That said, and I'm not a doctor but my common sense says that the training methods shouldn't be an issue if all the other problems are resolved. I guess it just aggravates the problem if there exists one.

As for who should be the manager next season, I'd rather stick with Allegri than bring the likes of Capello and Lippi. I want a young coach who's eager to win trophies not old men who have already won everything there is to win. not to mention their school of thought which is very old fashioned (I'm not saying Allegri's is oh so modern).

Call me crazy and uninformed but I wouldn't mind Van Basten.

Also! when we part ways with Max, I'd like to see Tassotti let go as well. Mauro is a very nice guy and I understand he's very highly rated as a defensive coach, but I think the team could badly use a new coach. he's been here for way too long.

I agree with your post except for the Van Basten bit, and definitely not the Tassotti bit! ohmy.gif


QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 9 2012, 10:54 AM) *
And,Van Basten?Come on,don't be so bias!Everyone wants past legends to become great coaches.But,that's like starting from scratch,if Van Basten has showed some promise managing his current team then ok.Fact is,I'd rather keep Allegri,instead of starting from scratch again...If a great coach is available then by all means go for it,I'm not saying Allegri should be untouchable,but it depends on the circumstances.

Agreed. smile.gif

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 12:20 PM) *
It's not only about the players, peeps, but mainly about the ideas. If Galliani offered to Allegri the chance to choose between Eriksen and Asamoah, for example, who do you think he'd go for? He loves bulky players and runners, and he doesn't know how to manage classy players. We went from the Milan of ball possession and flashy performances to the Milan of counterattacks and long balls. We're not Cagliari for crying out load! Allegri has this philosophy of football that is the total opposite of what Milan stands for as according to Berlusconi and his vision since he acquired the club.

The thing is, in very little time Allegri has brought us back to the search for top. He has won us a league already and we can possibly win a next one still. Apart from our recent poor set of results and his most recent selection fail, overall he has done good. We can't keep on saying he likes strength over skill so because of that he is better suited for a small club coach; the fact is he is a couple good signings away from having a very good team, at which point we can then properly assess things and look to make judgement afterwards.

Why give him the axe now, to start over yet again? We are can already just continue to heading in the right direction with proper reinforcements & correct player departures.

So to summarize, his first season we got the long awaited Serie A title, 2nd season we are still challenging for it up to the end (and could possibly win it) - If it wasn't for an unexplained number of injuries & unfortunate reffing errors, we could have still been ahead in Serie A, and possibly in the CL Semis. Not to mention that we had an fair showing in the CL (progression-wise) despite coming up against the undoubtedly best club in the world at them moment (4 times).

The guy clearly deserves another season. I think the best is yet to come.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 9 2012, 07:17 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 03:16 PM) *
I would be very excited about van Basten. He represents a philosophy of football opposite to that of Allegri's, and we desperately need an offensive Milan, characterized by ball possession and quality in the middle, instead of this huff-and-puff version that relies on long balls when the going gets tough.

No. Absolutely no. I can't understand Berlusconi. Why on heaven should we go for another adventure?? I mean, if van Basten is the alternative then I'd go with Allegri. At least Allegri won more then Basten did with Holland and Ajax plus Heerenveen now. If we make a change, I want someone with experience and prior success, someone who doesn't always have to run to Tassotti for help when needed.

@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.

Posted by: William405 Apr 9 2012, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 9 2012, 09:17 PM) *
No. Absolutely no. I can't understand Berlusconi. Why on heaven should we go for another adventure?? I mean, if van Basten is the alternative then I'd go with Allegri. At least Allegri won more then Basten did with Holland and Ajax plus Heerenveen now. If we make a change, I want someone with experience and prior success, someone who doesn't always have to run to Tassotti for help when needed.

@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.


+1 I'm not pro-allegri,but this is how I see it.Even,if you don't like Allegri at all,he's still a better option atm.


http://www.sendspace.com/file/s47245

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 9 2012, 09:28 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 05:59 PM) *
And we could have easily offered him a three-year deal if Allegri wanted to. That was just a poor excuse for them to get him the f@ck outta here.


On 6m a season? Let's be serious, he didn't play much in his final season and we won the title. And when he did all he seemed to do was launch long bombs to the forward players. I don't think he was worth keeping.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 9 2012, 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 9 2012, 09:47 PM) *
@Zeddie, sorry but to say we need a change with Tassotti isn't just coldhearted, it's pointless and makes no sense. Bayern and most of the great teams always hang on to their coaching stuff. The intelligent defensive stuff comes from Tassotti as well - just think of Abate and the work he's done with him. No, no, no, this would be a grave mistake.

I don't think there's anything coldhearted about wanting to see a completely new coaching staff someday. I'm not saying he's at fault or anything, but sometimes new personnel with different personality/mentality can change a lot of things within a club. I'm surprised you fail to acknowledge that. remember when everyone used to say our players and Carlo had become too friendly with each other and that held us back?

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 9 2012, 09:38 PM

X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 9 2012, 10:07 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 9 2012, 07:12 PM) *
The thing is, in very little time Allegri has brought us back to the search for top. He has won us a league already and we can possibly win a next one still. Apart from our recent poor set of results and his most recent selection fail, overall he has done good. We can't keep on saying he likes strength over skill so because of that he is better suited for a small club coach; the fact is he is a couple good signings away from having a very good team, at which point we can then properly assess things and look to make judgement afterwards.

Why give him the axe now, to start over yet again? We are can already just continue to heading in the right direction with proper reinforcements & correct player departures.

So to summarize, his first season we got the long awaited Serie A title, 2nd season we are still challenging for it up to the end (and could possibly win it) - If it wasn't for an unexplained number of injuries & unfortunate reffing errors, we could have still been ahead in Serie A, and possibly in the CL Semis. Not to mention that we had an fair showing in the CL (progression-wise) despite coming up against the undoubtedly best club in the world at them moment (4 times).

The guy clearly deserves another season. I think the best is yet to come.


Back to the top? What's that supposed to mean? He won us the scudetto last season, when we practically had no opposition to face. Even a n00b would have been able to accomplish that, having to rely on Ibrahimovic all the time. Don't forget we got kicked out of Europe by frigging Tottenham! And let's not talk about the Arsenal debacle this season that nearly led to one of the greatest humiliations in our recent history. His dodgy decisions lost us the lead in the league, and now we might finish the season empty handed. How exactly does that translate into success? But most of all, the way we play under this guy is plain repulsive to my eyes. He's not and he'll never be a Milan-quality coach.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:38 PM) *
X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.


No, for me Allegri was the main reason why Pirlo decided to leave. The contract was merely a pretext for us to offload him. Allegri didn't consider Pirlo capable enough to play in front of the defense. He wanted a classic DM in that position, which he first tried with Ambrosini and later with van Bommel after we signed him. Pirlo played the majority of games under Allegri as LCM, which was later covered by Seedorf. That's not his position, but Allegri had already decided on the formation. That's why Pirlo said he had decided to sign for Juventus since February. The issue of the contracts was not even discussed back then.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 9 2012, 10:22 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:36 PM) *
I don't think there's anything coldhearted about wanting to see a completely new coaching staff someday. I'm not saying he's at fault or anything, but sometimes new personnel with different personality/mentality can change a lot of things within a club. I'm surprised you fail to acknowledge that. remember when everyone used to say our players and Carlo had become too friendly with each other and that held us back?

Sometimes yes, but this doesn't make sense. He's an excellent assistant coach who's crucial for the development of Abate and any new fullback a bit younger or less experienced. There's no need for a rush and sudden change: as said, big clubs don't usually change their assistant staff if it's working. And I don't see any signal! Tassotti isn't especially friendly with the team, he's much more introverted then Careletto (who's also introverted but differently) and even if he is friendly?? The coach must make a distance, the assistant has to bind the team and the coach. I think Mauro is doing a brilliant job as a bridge builder.


QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 9 2012, 10:38 PM) *
X-Off, why are you so stubborn? Pirlo left clearly because of contract issues not because Allegri kicked him out. I realize you hate the guy's guts and want to associate him with every single bad thing that happens to this club, but it's obvious in this case what happened.

No, I agree with X-O completely. It is tied, how can you separate those things? It doesn't have to do with hate -- I think everyone at Milan looked at Pirlo in a different way then at Inzaghi, Ambrosini, Gattuso or any of the 30+. Allegri was the one who convinced Galliani Milan can and will function without Andrea, and that's why we didn't consider his contract extension as a top priority.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 9 2012, 10:26 PM

I still think had we not signed players like Ibra and friends, we'd have finished 3rd or lower again. sleep.gif Allegri has got little to do with our success, except for the fact that he did not do anything major stupid. Decent tactics yes, but had he the same players Leo had in his year here, we'd have gotten no where. So in that regard he's lucky.

And in that regard, he is unlucky too. The management knows that they bought him new toys, and wants bigger results and higher ambitions. What they don't know is that this season our team has been decimated, cell by human cell. I actually give Allegri more credit for this season than last years. unsure.gif Regardless, I want a Scudetto.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 10 2012, 10:58 AM

No MvB for me.

X-Off....I understand what you're saying about philosophy and I agree, but in that case I'd like to put a few new names into the hat:

- Spalletti
- Montella
- Lucien Favre
- Rijkaard

---in that order.

Posted by: William405 Apr 10 2012, 11:45 AM

I'd give Allegri another season,and if it doesn't work..I'd bring Montella in if he's still doing his magic with Catania.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 10 2012, 12:45 PM

I don't get the sentiment for experiment. Ain't you guys sick and tired of coaches who've never lead a team to a big success? In the early 2000's even Ancelotti was taken as a gamble, and he had trophies already won. I know Milan has a rich tradition of inventing coaches, but I think if we move on from Allegri it has to be someone with reputation, someone with prior achievements. Spalletti IMO is the upgraded version of Ranieri, good or even very good but never there to make the final mile. Montella still has much to learn. Favre is one of my favorites in Germany, but he's the ideal small club coach and his tactics might appear too defensively oriented.

As said before, I'd take don Fabio, Lippi or Rijkaard. If we wanna play with new names, let's give Billy a shot.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 10 2012, 01:10 PM

Forget the two guys that end with the letter Y (Billy and Lippy). Fabio or Rijkaard for me. sleep.gif If someone in the management has a taste of adventure, I'd much rather keep Allegri, with all his glaring shortcomings. Because we all know, fairy tales don't work in a club of our stature - the stakes are far too high!

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 10 2012, 01:15 PM

Capello would demand a huge salary, so I don't think we'd take him. Anyway, I didn't know Rijkaard is the head coach of Saudi Arabia. They must be paying him in gold, so I really can't see us bringing him either. We've always opted for the cheap solution.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 10 2012, 01:25 PM

I don't know man, I'd pay anything Fabio wants. unsure.gif Anything. With him on board, and a few good singings, we could be CL winning material very soon. We have the best defender in the world with us, and a potent enough attack, plus a dynamic (if uncreative) midfield. Just a few good men, and an experienced coach like him!

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 10 2012, 07:01 PM

Agree with the spaletti name-drop, he is truly an amazing coach!!

Posted by: albanche Apr 12 2012, 08:23 AM

I would definitely go with Tassoti. He has been there for almost 10 years now and knows every in and out of the team. Promote him, I believe he will succeed, as every time Allegri asked Tassoti's opinion the team changed for good and won games.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 12 2012, 09:54 AM

QUOTE (albanche @ Apr 12 2012, 09:23 AM) *
I would definitely go with Tassoti. He has been there for almost 10 years now and knows every in and out of the team. Promote him, I believe he will succeed, as every time Allegri asked Tassoti's opinion the team changed for good and won games.


How do you know when Allegri asked Tassoti's opinion?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 12 2012, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 12 2012, 10:54 AM) *
How do you know when Allegri asked Tassoti's opinion?

I suppose by watching - cameras often focus on Allegri going for Mauro's advice.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 12 2012, 10:06 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 12 2012, 11:05 AM) *
I suppose by watching - cameras often focus on Allegri going for Mauro's advice.


We don't exactly know what they're saying, but I guess it makes sense.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 12 2012, 10:08 AM

Surely, we can only guess and lament.

But remember when Carletto used to talk with Mauro - it was him speaking and Tassotti shaking his head or calmly listening. When Allegri turns to Tassotti it's mostly the other way around.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 12 2012, 10:13 AM

Well, I have no doubt in my mind that Tassotti is much more prepared than Allegri, and has what it takes to coach a club like Milan given his past history and all. But I still want him as vice-coach.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 12 2012, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 12 2012, 12:13 PM) *
Well, I have no doubt in my mind that Tassotti is much more prepared than Allegri, and has what it takes to coach a club like Milan given his past history and all. But I still want him as vice-coach.


I like to assume that the underlying infrastructure of personnel that surrounds our team is stable; ie Tassotti stays as Vice.

I believe the same supports our cause in building for the future.

Posted by: William405 Apr 17 2012, 10:04 PM

QUOTE
Allegri: 'My Milan tactics'
By Football Italia staff

Massimiliano Allegri explains his tactical decisions to revamp Milan, replacing Clarence Seedorf with Kevin-Prince Boateng.

The Coach won the Scudetto in his first San Siro campaign and is only one point behind leaders Juventus in this season.

“It is a very different environment to what I was used to before, as at Milan you play every three days to win,” he told Sky Sport Italia.

“There is a big club behind you. With Adriano Galliani we try to improve many situations and I immediately found a great atmosphere in the locker room, with people who really wanted to get back on track.

“Choices must be made at the right moment. With the arrival of Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Boateng and Robinho, we had to change our style of play.

“I removed Seedorf because he had different characteristics to Boateng, whose physical strength could give us a bigger hand in attack.

“Clarence was doing very well at the time, just as he is now in a wider role.”

Allegri was also asked how important a Coach is in the wider scheme of things.

“He has to transmit his character and help on a psychological level, but then the champions make the difference.”

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 17 2012, 10:29 PM

Respect.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 17 2012, 10:35 PM

Muchos respect. smile.gif He doesn't open his beak too much, but when he does it's good stuff from Allegri.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 18 2012, 08:55 AM

Yes...I don't approve of his aesthetics...or agree with his philosophy, but I don't doubt his qualities or character

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 18 2012, 11:58 AM

And this is why i think the coaching position is one of the last of our worries. I still can't wait to see Conte lose his **** if a CL call goes against him. Then Juve's true lack of class will be known to all outside of italy...

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 18 2012, 12:37 PM

Nah...watch him then hide behind how Juve have a long way to go because they are still rebuilding blah blah. Doesn't matter they have spend 120+ MM on the market.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 18 2012, 01:23 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Apr 18 2012, 12:58 PM) *
And this is why i think the coaching position is one of the last of our worries. I still can't wait to see Conte lose his **** if a CL call goes against him. Then Juve's true lack of class will be known to all outside of italy...


How are good temper and coaching skills related? Allegri might be a good boy, but he's a mediocre coach, and that's what matters in this game. I'd rather have a tw@t like Mourinho as coach than a good-for-nothing n00b like Allegri.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 18 2012, 02:11 PM

Ok..now while I wouldn't term him a good-for-nothing, sure there are better coaches around.

I would happily take a nice guy with a footballing aesthetic that pleases me in exchange for Max. But I wouldn't take Mourinho.

He is a winning coach for sure, but there are just too many reasons to count why I wouldn't want him.

Posted by: William405 Apr 19 2012, 09:37 PM

Interview with Allegri

"Many people think that football and being a coach is just about tactics and schemes. Instead, it’s a simple thing where the minds of the players matter a lot. You have around 30 players, they’re just boys, some of them have problems with their parents, and others stay out late very often"

"As a coach you have to have the sensibility to understand when it’s right to raise your voice and when to speak in a calm manner. As a coach, you have to understand when to encourage the players and when to yell at them. The mental input has an effect on their performance. If the player is tired or distracted then he won't perform well on the pitch"

"I don’t get involved in the players’ private lives. I just tell them that it’s important to behave well. I also tell the players to make sacrifices because living the good life at the nightclubs won’t make you perform at a high level."

"There's no friction between Pato and I. The fact that he's with Barbara Berlusconi has no effect on my decisions. I feel sorry for Pato that he has spent more time in the infirmary than on the pitch."

"I'm studying English. I have two lessons per week, and I did my first interview in English with The Sun before the Arsenal-game."

"I like to drive fast, to feel the shivers when you drive a Porsche with 270 km/h, even if it's only for 3 km. I constantly get fines when I drive. I once got a fine because I thought that Via Montenapoleone was a two-way street."

"If I'm good in the kitchen? I can make oven-baked bream fish with potatoes and pasta with tomato-sauce. Tasteful and healthy."

"I've never smoked a cigarette, never smoked a pipe, never drank hard liquor. If I was in the kitchen and someone brought me cocaine, then I would probably mistake it for flour."

"I started playing in a club when I was 9. I adored Platini and I supported Juventus back then. My debut in Serie A, as a player, was vs. Milan. My first goal in Serie A was also vs. Milan. And I got my first point with Cagliari against Milan. Like it was written in the stars."

"If Berlusconi calls me before the matches? Always. He always asks me about the players. He’s affectionate, like a fan. I've been to Berlusconi's villa in Arcore 3 times. 1st time was the May 25 2010. He listened to me & his simplicity surprised me. I listen to Berlusconi and I follow him. He knows and understands football."

"Berlusconi once told me fix myself up a bit, after a press conference where I didn't look good. Now I always have a comb with me."

"Why they called me an anchovy in Livorno? Because I was tall and skinny. I weighed nothing. When I was at Pescara, Galeone called me "the conviction", because I sometimes made bad fouls."

"In Serie B, I root for Pescara and Sassuolo. My Livorno is no longer capable for fighting for the promotion to Serie A."

"I miss the sea and its freedom and sounds. And the scent that arises from the sea when the wind blows. I have a private spot in the sea on a reef, where nobody can see you. That's where I go in the summer to relax."

"I always stay up late after a game, whether we've won or not. The night before a game I go to bed at 23 & I sleep uninterrupted. Other nights, when I can't sleep, I listen to Mina, Renato Zero and Lucio Dalla."

"Where I see myself 20 years from now? At the sea. Yes, at the sea in Livorno."

(from AC Milan News/@Milanello via Twitter)

Posted by: acid911 Apr 19 2012, 10:02 PM

Gee, this Allegri fella has turned into quite a like-able character. sleep.gif Outside of his footballing philosophy, that is.

Posted by: William405 Apr 19 2012, 10:22 PM

biggrin.gif

Not good enough,not good enough!

Posted by: acid911 Apr 19 2012, 10:43 PM

What? biggrin.gif laugh.gif

He has grown in stature as a coach, at least as far as his interviews and media face is concerned. wink.gif You compare this interview with his first few words to the press (two years back, when he first joined), and they are a miles apart. Sure, I may question his footballing and game tactics, but what's true is true.

Posted by: MarcoMilano Apr 21 2012, 02:55 AM

I don't want Allefri Anymore in Milan. He gave away Pirlo. Remeber Allegri told Pirlo that he wouldn't play anymore has playmaker for Milan but only as side mildfielder. (that's why Pirlo went to Juventus) In his 4-3-3 there is non place for players like Pirlo. Allegri dosn't want the quality in the Middle but only muscle!! In the end..Allegri is only good for small teams.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 21 2012, 03:02 AM

QUOTE (MarcoMilano @ Apr 21 2012, 06:55 AM) *
I don't want Allefri Anymore in Milan. He gave away Pirlo. Remeber Allegri told Pirlo that he wouldn't play anymore has playmaker for Milan but only as side mildfielder. (that's why Pirlo went to Juventus) In his 4-3-3 there is non place for players like Pirlo. Allegri dosn't want the quality in the Middle but only muscle!! In the end..Allegri is only good for small teams.

Welcome. king.gif Pretty much what most here have been saying for the past few months!

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 21 2012, 08:17 AM

Awesome interview.. I particularly liked this part:

"I like to drive fast, to feel the shivers when you drive a Porsche with 270 km/h, even if it's only for 3 km. I constantly get fines when I drive. I once got a fine because I thought that Via Montenapoleone was a two-way street."

Aside from the first 3 paragraphs, of course.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 11:48 AM

He likes to drive fast, that's why he always plays runners. dry.gif

Posted by: William405 Apr 21 2012, 01:43 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2012, 01:48 PM) *
He likes to drive fast, that's why he always plays runners. dry.gif



smile.gif

I see it in another manner,Porsche is a quality sports car wink.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 24 2012, 02:47 PM

I hope he's driving a Porsche when he beats it from Milanello once and for all. sleep.gif

Posted by: acid911 Apr 24 2012, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 24 2012, 06:47 PM) *
I hope he's driving a Porsche when he beats it from Milanello once and for all.

Funny. laugh.gif Cruel but funny.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 29 2012, 06:08 PM

QUOTE (Football Italia)
Allegri: 'If we'd had Cassano'
By Football Italia staff

Massimiliano Allegri can’t help but feel regrets that Milan had to do without the inspirational Antonio Cassano for most of the season.

FantAntonio was given his first start since suffering an ischemic stroke and undergoing heart surgery at the end of October, scoring and providing two assists in a 4-1 victory at Siena.

“It was important to win today so we could stay close to Juventus. Now we have to hope they drop some points in these final three games, while we’d have to win them all,” said the Coach on his 100th official match at the club.

“In any case, if we continue like this then we can finish the season without regrets. The only problem was that Cassano and Gennaro Gattuso suffered physical problems that could not be predicted by anyone.

“We paid a heavy price for all the injuries, as don’t forget Mario Yepes and Mathieu Flamini were also out for months at a time. The shortage didn’t allow me to rest some players who have now reached the end of the campaign totally exhausted.

“It’s also a pity that with the timing of the Champions League we paid for the strains of facing Barcelona by dropping points to Fiorentina and Bologna. We gave away too many goals and a side like Milan cannot do that.”

Allegri commented on Saturday that he was “on the Milan bench until May 13, then we’ll see,” so he was again asked about his future.

“I have an excellent rapport with President Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani. In two years we have won the Scudetto and a Super Cup, while we are still in the race for the title now and were unlucky to be eliminated by Barcelona from Europe.

“The thing that disappoints me is that the media has ganged up on me and the team with talk of contracts at a key moment of the campaign.”


Some good points he makes. who's to listen though...

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 29 2012, 07:29 PM

He made some good points... yeah, okay, but he also sounds like an idiot by mentioning the name of Flamini (who by the way, has been back for some time injury free and yet to get playing time). Flamini himself had to come out publicly and state this.

I would have largely respected if Allegri was to say I something along the lines of: "looking back on things now I would have done some things differently, and I hope that the fans can continue to place their confidence in me and find it in their heart to forgive me for some risks that I took which did not turn out as I had planned for.

We now have to hope Juve can drop some points in these final three games, while we’d have to win all of our renaming - Then we'll see what happens..."



Instead he said: "if we continue like this then we can finish the season without regrets." ...really? without regrets?! sleep.gif

Anyway as it stands, its hard to see Juve slip up at this point, they are determined and motivated. It matters little what we do if they do what they have to.

I usually like most of Allegri's interviews from start to finish (this certainly was not the case today).

I am beginning to become somewhat of a neutral on the matter of him continuing on as our Milan manager. He has done a lot for the team in my eyes so far, but it can easily be broken or forgotten with a series of questionable decisions... As is now becoming the case.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2012, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 29 2012, 09:29 PM) *
I am beginning to become somewhat of a neutral on the matter of him continuing on as our Milan manager. He has done a lot for the team in my eyes so far, but it can easily be broken or forgotten with a series of questionable decisions... As is now becoming the case.


I think Allegri will continue, he will be cleaning the laundry this summer so all those old folks; Nesta, Seedorf, Inzaghi, etc will **** off ... and in comes Muntari and co 96.gif

That or what you said innocent.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 29 2012, 08:13 PM

I think Berlusconi will act. He'll have to, otherwise we'll sail in a totally wrong direction.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 29 2012, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 29 2012, 02:58 PM) *
I think Allegri will continue, he will be cleaning the laundry this summer so all those old folks; Nesta, Seedorf, Inzaghi, etc will **** off ... and in comes Muntari and co 96.gif

That or what you said innocent.gif

I didn't quite catch the meaning behind your post, but one thing is for sure, Nesta doesn't deserve to be shown the door like that of like the other veterans.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2012, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 29 2012, 10:20 PM) *
I didn't quite catch the meaning behind your post, but one thing is for sure, Nesta doesn't deserve to be shown the door like that of like the other veterans.


No but Pippo, Seedorf and Pirlo do ?

Relax, I was just being sarcastic in how itchy Allegri's trigger finger is when it comes to having things his way smile.gif

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 30 2012, 01:02 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 29 2012, 03:22 PM) *
No but Pippo, Seedorf and Pirlo do ?

Relax, I was just being sarcastic in how itchy Allegri's trigger finger is when it comes to having things his way smile.gif

No need to relax any further I was already in a clam, level headed state of mind. smile.gif

I was simply inquiring what you meant as I truly didn't understand (the tone possibly) of your post.

Pirlo is already gone there's no use discussing whether or not he should have stayed on or not (been there done that). If I was to have it my way, he would still be here but there's no use crying over spilled milk.

Seedorf is nothing more than a back-up player now (at least for the level of playing we should be hoping to achieve)

If he chooses to stay on with with a 'true' back-up role (err... maybe), but I don't ever want to see him starting more than 10% of our games, and that's unless we really have to. Why? No, not because I dislike the guy, but I think he should recognize that his best years are behind him, and allow us to move on. Time for us to stop living in the past!

(PS. He should quit throwing tantrums when sh!t doesn't go his way - You're a grown man, act that way!)

Nesta, though is now just a shadow of his former self, is the only one that has displayed that he is still capable of the level of football which we require. He can be a solid rotational player (& great backup when need be called upon)

MvB can be in the same boat as Nesta if you ask me, but the situation is slightly different - If the guy want to leave and go PSV come season's end we'll just have to respect his wishes.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 30 2012, 06:14 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 30 2012, 05:02 AM) *
No need to relax any further I was already in a clam, level headed state of mind.

Ha, like a true Trini. sleepysmiley03.gif I believe, I've never seen you flipped off here, you're always cool.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2012, 09:12 AM

The only thing giving me hope, is that Carlo was also defensive in his first season and changed his approach a lot. If Allegri can do the same, it will be fine.

I don't actually want him out per se. When I knew Carlo's time was up, the first person I wanted in was Max Allegri. I even got over my apprehension about the mess he created at Cagliari when he had his head turned by Milan...but still... unsure.gif

Posted by: acid911 May 3 2012, 10:20 AM

To be honest, nothing is decided yet, after the Buffon hard touch. sleep.gif We may yet win the league on the last day after a Juventus draw, and then it'll not be as easy to see Allegri out. And who knows, what the next season holds. But anyway, Berlusconi may very well have his way, but I'd love to see the results of the next two rounds.

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