QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2017, 09:39 PM)
I disagree. I think we must find a solid formation with the best possible 11 and stick to it. That's how great teams operate. Ancelotti's Milan changed during the years, but it always had the bulk of Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka', Shevchenko and Inzaghi at its core because those were our best players and you couldn't bench any of them unless they were injured.
Rotating players on a constant basis is a very detrimental thing that doesn't bring stability to the team. I don't want to see Jack start one game only to bench him the next one in favour of Hakan.
I think you misunderstood my point.
Atm we don't have a set squad, we're thinking of Bona as untouchable atm but with the injuries and the fact that we have a better squad now his position will have to come into question
What I said was players needed to fight for their places, competition in the team is always good, the lack of competition is what made our players so complacent in the first place during these last few years.
I'm not saying we rotate the team constantly, I'm saying we get the best squad we can get assembled, even if there are 2/3 good options for some positions and see what would be the best IX then we stick to that and rotate as necessary (fatigue and/or injury). Having Keita and Bona fighting for 1 LW spot is something to be happy about and not something to worry about
QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 21 2017, 10:23 PM)
New offer for Niang (
link). Not sure who is more crazy, Spartak for throwing this kind of money at a mediocre player, or Niang for holding out for Toro (who will pay him a lot less).
The f@cker just doesn't want to f@ck off does he
Toro/Spartak whichever just go FFS! The 22m from Spartak is insane for Niang, he'd be an idiot to refuse that money, but I can understand the human perspective in this. If I were him I'd definitely think twice about going to Russia, but for that kind of cash I'd suck it up for a couple of years and then move on
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2017, 11:02 PM)
What's the point of having both Jack and Hakan if you can only play one? Even worse if you add Keita into the mix. It's important that we find the definite formation and line-up and we stick to that, otherwise we'll never achieve continuity if we keep rotating players in every game.
First off, I don't view Hakan and Jack as occupying the same roles. I think Hakan is better in a more central area while Jack is much better starting from wide. The 2 can co-exist in the same line up (4-2-3-1 being the obvious). If Keita were to come he'd be competing with Jack for space. Also, we need someone like Keita because he'd bring speed/power to an attacking line that a bit too soft imo. sure we have passers and dribblers like Suso/Bona/Hakan/Silva/heck even Kalinic, but we lack that real change of pace and Keita would bring that to the table for us, making our front line very versatile and unpredictable
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2017, 09:51 AM)
I don't get your argument X. By reflecting to the Ancelotti years you basically acknowledged what Han said, because even back then we had a core of 6-7 players and the rest rotated. Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Rino, Zee, Kaka and Sheva were the standard players. Pippo was in and out due to injury, so were players like Janku, Serginho, Cafu, Stam, Ambro, etc.
All in all, rotation is necessary. We have players who've become quite injury prone like Monto or now Bona. We also play on three different fronts for the first time in 3 years. So what we need now is depth and differentiated tactical options.
As for Marchisio, he might be past his prime, but in pre-season games he mostly looked very good. Sure, he's also injury prone but if he's really up to leaving, he'd still be a massive upgrade in midfield.
This
I'm not saying we rotate each weak, but competition for spots is good. So far we only have a handful of players who can be classified as sure starters, the rest will have to earn their spots. And having just a good 11 while the bench is a bit subpar would be a big downfall for us
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2017, 10:56 AM)
That doesn't mean that we should rotate players on a constant basis. We need to establish a solid starting eleven and build our game around that.
Jack mentioned Madrid as an example, but in actuality if every player is fit Zidane will always play with Navas, Carvajal, Ramos, Varane, Marcelo, Casemiro, Kroos, Modric, Isco, Ronaldo and Benzema.
The only reason these players don't always start is when there are injuries or someone needs to rest. And this is what I'm saying. We need to apply the same logic, find our best line-up and stick to that. Rest players every now and then.
Yes, and if any one of those players is injured/tired they have a top class replacement for him on the bench
QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 22 2017, 11:54 AM)
With the emergence of Cutrone this signing is horrifying me a bit less than it was.
Why would it horrify you to begin with? Kalinic might not be a huge name but he's a very capable striker and most importantly a team player which is something Montella specifically wanted
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2017, 12:56 PM)
Fassone said that with Kalinic our squad is complete. Supposing Paletta, Gomez, Sosa and Niang will be sold, here's what it looks like for now:
GKs
G. Donnarumma
A. Donnarumma
Storari
Defenders
Bonucci
Musacchio
Romagnoli
Zapata
Conti
Abate
Calabria
Rodriguez
Antonelli
Midfielders
Biglia
Montolivo
Locatelli
Kessie
Mauri
Calhanoglu
Bonaventura
Suso
Forwards
André Silva
Kalinic
Cutrone
Borini
That's 24 players. I think Calabria, Locatelli and Mauri need to be loaned out, and we need to bring in a vice-Kessie (Krychowiak?) and another winger. Then we'd be settled for good.
I think Fassone said that to shut the media up a bit. My guess is that we'll make signings for the positions we sell players from. i.e if Niang leaves we'll go for a winger, if Sosa leaves we'll go for a CM. 24 players is really not enough for a club that's involved in 3 competitions, a couple of injures (which we're already experiencing) and we're f@cked big time. Going into a season relying on Borini to be your 2nd choice LW after spending all the money would be bonkers
I just hopes Niang finally accepts that huge contract and just goes, someone seriously has to knock some sense into this guy
QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 22 2017, 01:12 PM)
The squad looks good. I would keep Locatelli...honestly. But, yes I would definitely loan out Calabria and Mauri.
A Vice-Kessie and a winger are good ideas.
Do you have any idea on the total expenditure on transfers if we count in the money we got from sales? I know that we've spent around 200 million, but I guess we could finally get almost 50million from sales. I have to say around 150million for a new squad is just smart investment all around. PSG has paid more for one player (IMG:
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I think we'll sell 3/4 more players and bring in 2/3 new players
Which would leave us with a 27 man squad, a very good number if we want to compete on all fronts this season