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Fillipo Simone
post May 26 2019, 10:10 PM
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Romagnoli would be a loss. Maybe he'll stay. Donna? I really don't care about him. We have Reina, Plizzari, we can bring in someone new. Donnarumma isn't that special IMO.
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post May 26 2019, 10:23 PM
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Sell Donna and Kessie and we'll be good.
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post May 26 2019, 11:57 PM
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Season draws to a close. Milan in EL, while FFP could pull us out of Europe all together.

The team will most likely loose a player or two and have to restart again next year. Atalanta did a great job this season and they fully deserve to be in the CL.

On to next year.

Mods you may close the summer transfer thread.
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post May 27 2019, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 26 2019, 03:44 PM) *
Profit? Except for 2006, our club has generated losses every year for the past 15 years. Only then there was no FFP and hence Fininvest covered those losses each year without a problem.

We're not poor. We're owned by a large and powerful company, money is not the issue. But adhering to these stupid and unfair rules from UEFA is what's hurting us. You can't become great again without spending but spending too much gets you banned from Europe. It's beyond ridiculous.

You can't apply the same rules for everyone.


Ah so the law is only an *** when it hurts your club...
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post May 27 2019, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 26 2019, 09:36 PM) *
Heartbreaking finish.

Empoli wasted a handful of chances. Handanovic is a god.


He's why Inter got that UCL slot. Staggering save.
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post May 27 2019, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 27 2019, 12:04 PM) *
Ah so the law is only an *** when it hurts your club...


The law is an *** regardless. FFP is BS.
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post May 28 2019, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ May 27 2019, 07:31 PM) *
The law is an *** regardless.


No argument here.

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The base principle is only spend what you generate. Maybe it's not well implemented but the base idea is supposed to mean fair play rather than spending what money your owners personally have?
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post May 28 2019, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 28 2019, 01:40 PM) *
The base principle is only spend what you generate. Maybe it's not well implemented but the base idea is supposed to mean fair play rather than spending what money your owners personally have?


Which gives more power to the strong and weakens the weak. FFP has been proven ineffective since clubs like PSG and City have been spending gazillions of money in the last few years and still have gotten away with it.
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post May 31 2019, 10:34 PM
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So Conte nabbed up by Inter, while we're linked with absolute nobodies.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely didn't want him, but I sure as sh*t don't want the mediocrity we're being linked to.

Inzaghi? Giampaolo?

This is back to the Miha/Montella era, if indeed, we're even out of that one.

We need a really top quality manager, but unfortunately we neither have the finance, reputation nor ambition to get him.

tbh, I'd even be willing to take Jose - his best spell in football was at Inter, and he knows how to play the kind of Catenaccio we need to go back to.
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post Jun 1 2019, 02:38 AM
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Back to the drawing board for Milan. Ambitions of CL, challenging for Serie A and the likes are shelved.

The club have a new strategy, one put forward last by Silvio and Galliani, to focus on youth, to balance the books and to operate within the clubs financial capacity. Responsibly.

That means Milan are to downsize. Unlike the path Li initiated, Milan are now going to spend what they earn. From the looks of it, Milan needs to sell to get ride of the high salaries. Players like Suso and Donna, Calhanoglu and Silva will have to move on to raise at least 100M to be good with UEFA and plug in a small transfer kitty to fix some gaps. Then the ultimate focus is developing the youth.

So you are looking at 4-5 years of development before anything bears fruit.

Add to that a new stadium (either San Siro gets a revamp or completely new site), which would put a dent to the clubs already tight financials and extend the waiting time for the fans.

Oh happy days
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post Jun 1 2019, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ May 28 2019, 01:40 PM) *
No argument here.

The base principle is only spend what you generate. Maybe it's not well implemented but the base idea is supposed to mean fair play rather than spending what money your owners personally have?

It's basically designed to keep those at the very top there and to leave all the rest behind.

Here's why it's BS.

EPL TV money alone will leave everyone else in the dust. Real and Barcelona being the only exceptions to this.

Add to that, clubs like City and PSG using the sponsorship loophole R7 rightly explained to pump cash into the clubs to make them look healthy.

FFP was created to regulate club spending so there aren't and financial bankruptcies supposedly, but what it has mostly done is create a top tier of clubs which are impenetrable due to their particular circumstances, and a huge gap between them and the rest has been created. I personally don't think that UEFA should be interfering in these matters. This should be up to the ruling body of the clubs' country. And UEFA should butt out of it.

FFP has been flawed from the start and either needs to be drastically changed or abolished


As for Milan, a week has gone by and I'm still completely disillusioned by this club. And losing Leanardo on top of that has made it worse

I simply do not understand why we're hitting the reset button again when we were 1 single point away from our goal. It just makes no sense

And to top it off we're being linked to mid-table coaches while Inter got Conte and it's seriously heart breaking at this point
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post Jun 1 2019, 10:23 PM
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Because, Han, this club and this team is absolute garbage. Papering over that with being one point behind the 'elite' isn't enough.

I don't necessarily think 'resetting' again is overly ideal either, but all I know is our present course is going nowhere.
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post Jun 1 2019, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 1 2019, 02:38 AM) *
Back to the drawing board for Milan. Ambitions of CL, challenging for Serie A and the likes are shelved.

The club have a new strategy, one put forward last by Silvio and Galliani, to focus on youth, to balance the books and to operate within the clubs financial capacity. Responsibly.

That means Milan are to downsize. Unlike the path Li initiated, Milan are now going to spend what they earn. From the looks of it, Milan needs to sell to get ride of the high salaries. Players like Suso and Donna, Calhanoglu and Silva will have to move on to raise at least 100M to be good with UEFA and plug in a small transfer kitty to fix some gaps. Then the ultimate focus is developing the youth.

So you are looking at 4-5 years of development before anything bears fruit.

Add to that a new stadium (either San Siro gets a revamp or completely new site), which would put a dent to the clubs already tight financials and extend the waiting time for the fans.

Oh happy days


I think Milan's glory days are gone. I think it will be half a century before this club is back at the top of the food chain. maybe never. Look at Nottingham Forest, Leeds and Villa. All of them were European giants, English champions, you name it 30+ years ago. All are as good as dead now, and Villa only just scraped their way back to EPL this season.

Nah, Milan are gone and there's no bringing them back. Not any time in what counts reasonably as 'soon'.

I'll still keep an eye out for their progress but unless their matches are on live tv and I've got a space in my schedule I won't be watching much. My interactions will mostly be on here.
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post Jun 1 2019, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 2 2019, 01:27 AM) *
I think Milan's glory days are gone. I think it will be half a century before this club is back at the top of the food chain. maybe never. Look at Nottingham Forest, Leeds and Villa. All of them were European giants, English champions, you name it 30+ years ago. All are as good as dead now, and Villa only just scraped their way back to EPL this season.

Nah, Milan are gone and there's no bringing them back. Not any time in what counts reasonably as 'soon'.

I'll still keep an eye out for their progress but unless their matches are on live tv and I've got a space in my schedule I won't be watching much. My interactions will mostly be on here.


Understood. It really boils down to scaling back to what you can afford. Silvio did well to sell the club, Elliott put in just 300M to get Milan, and that in the space of less than a year.

Elliott will start getting Milan’s financials in order and then find a buyer.

The club is in transition and I totally understand when you say you wont be tuning in because there is not much to look forward to to be honest.
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post Jun 1 2019, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 1 2019, 10:44 PM) *
Understood. It really boils down to scaling back to what you can afford. Silvio did well to sell the club, Elliott put in just 300M to get Milan, and that in the space of less than a year.

Elliott will start getting Milan’s financials in order and then find a buyer.

The club is in transition and I totally understand when you say you wont be tuning in because there is not much to look forward to to be honest.


To go from the Kings of Europe and top four or two in Serie A to something that is struggling to be at the level of Atalanta (ok, they were third but they've been on the rise for seasons - wonder how Kessie, Jack and Conti feel) - Milan are going the other way.

Even Inter, while not their traditional selves, have ambition and the appointment of a dynamic coach. Plus UCL football next season.

What do we have? UEL and an outgone youth coach.

What a catch!
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