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post Apr 4 2007, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 4 2007, 05:01 PM)
I have changed my mind and im optimistic about this match, we have done better away from this season

e.g. Lost to Roma 2-1 home but drew and arguably could have won at the olimpico

Got beat by Palermo home but drew at the Barbera

We also have a better defensive record away
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Although u have a point ... Last season, we didnt do well in Germany !

As much as I want Milan to win, I doubt that Milan can in Germany, with that said, I doubt we can score 2 goals (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 4 2007, 03:18 PM
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have faith ross7 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Inzaghi will score a double just like before !! This will not be the end of the road for us !! Lets beat the impossible!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Apr 4 2007, 03:42 PM
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im very confused doesnt 1 away goal equal to a draw then we need another goal for the win well i am looking for a draw then penaltys at least Dida is good for that
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post Apr 4 2007, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Apr 4 2007, 02:42 PM)
im very confused doesnt 1 away goal equal to a draw then we need another goal for the win  well i am looking for a draw then penaltys at least Dida is good for that
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0-0 will see them go through
1-1 will see them go through
2-2 will go to extra time
3-3 or anythin above it will see us go through

So it's either win, or get a high scoring draw.

That's why I think we should rest a lot of the team on Saturday. We have subs that are capable of winning against Empoli. We need Oddo, Maldini, Pirlo, ino, Seedorf, Kaka and Pippo to be at their best. And are able to keep the high tempo for the entire 90 minutes. We conceed yesterday because we faultered at the end and some of the players couldn't keep up.

If we somehow manage to esteblish a lead by half time against Empoli then I would consider taking off Nesta, and also putting in Pippo at some point to help him regain some much needed match fitness.

Sergio also needs to play since we really need him against Bayern

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post Apr 4 2007, 04:05 PM
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wat if its 2-1 !!
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post Apr 4 2007, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:05 PM)
wat if its 2-1 !!
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As in we win?

If so then we go through.

Even though I think that's highly unlikely.

I am not optimistic at all about this match. I'm sorry to say this, but we blew it when we allowed in 2 soft goals, probably the softest goals I have seen all season, they even went in softly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 5 2007, 09:18 AM
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We need to look at our play more carefully. But I'm afraid that Ancelotti is too biased to handle the things right for just 7 days.

Seedorf was very poor - no precision, no pace, no creativity. He was totally out of the game. And it is not his first time - it's been the same for some months now.

He was suposed to shift his position with Kaka and the fullbacks when they were eattaking and to open some space in Bayern's backyard. It never happened. That's why Kaka didn't see much of the ball - there was no one else to put some pressure on the germans and they marked him with numbers.

Don't know why Seedorf stayed on the pitch for so long - he was of no use to the team.

We need a game where our team could open spaces for Kaka one way or another. We have excellent fullbacks like Oddo and Jankulovski. What we need is more action from the midfield to double them on the wings and put maximum pressure on their defence. When Kaka recieved the ball germans were quick to double on him - we just have to do something to avoid that.

Don't think this could happen with Seedorf there in his current form. Unfortunately Sergio is out for too long and don't think that starting with him will be good idea.

We are the better team I have no doubts about that. We are better technically and as individuals. We need to go out and play with condfidence and heart. I'm not convinced that Seedorf and Dida could do that in week time...

It wasn't for bad luck that we failed - we failed because of ourselves. If we are able to understand that - Ancelotti also, we can go there and play game up to our level - there is a good chance that we can do it.
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post Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:08 PM)
As in we win?

If so then we go through.

Even though I think that's highly unlikely.

I am not optimistic at all about this match. I'm sorry to say this, but we blew it when we allowed in 2 soft goals, probably the softest goals I have seen all season, they even went in softly  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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100$ that we go through (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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post Apr 5 2007, 11:08 AM
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Interesting discussion.
What I want to happen is usually not the same as what I anticipate ahppening. The same is true here. Obviosuly I want Milan to beat Bayern, and we will have to as I don't believe 3-3 is a possibility. However, I think it is unlikely. Last season I had a lot of faith in Pippo, but I think we all realise that he is, gradually, season by season losing his former predatorial clinical sbility. Without Gila, our chances are low. I don't think Oliveira will be any good. He has been just as hopeless as I anticipated before his arrival. As I don't believe we can win, we should put out a strong side for Empoli.

Getting 4th is paramount. Unless anyone here beleives we can battle through to the final and win it, any further efforts in the CL are a diversion, albeit enjoyable for us, from the real objective, a CL spot for next year. Real trouble if we don't make 4th.

So the match against Bayern we must not rest lots of players for, perhaps one or two, Kaka perhaps, Pirlo too. But little more. We will have to face Bayern perhaps a little tired but we shall have to go th extra mile.

Real problem for me was, largely due to our own formation, we pushed Kaka into being a winger rather than his traditional AMC. He must either hold that posn alone,w hich means Oliveira partners Pippo, not good a mon avi, or, as Han opined, play him as a CF, alongside Pippo, with Seedorf the AMC. The CM on the left could be taken by Serginho as so I subscribe to such a proposed formation, given the circumstances, otheriwse, yes, I would have opted for Pippo and Gila upfront togeter etc.

I think Bayern will manage to score once, either a 1-0 win to them, or 1-1. Either way, us, out.

I hope I'm wrong.
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post Apr 5 2007, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 4 2007, 03:07 PM)
Although u have a point ... Last season, we didnt do well in Germany !

As much as I want Milan to win, I doubt that Milan can in Germany, with that said, I doubt we can score 2 goals (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Yes, overall they were the better side last season at Allianz, but at that time were different circumstances:

It was the first leg and they had to attack, while we would be happy with 0-0 or 1-1.

This time will go to score at all costs, and try to win.
I also was very pessimistic after the match, but after I saw what Valencia did to Chelsea, and when I remember how Liverpool won 2-1 in Nou Camp - I've got hope, coz after all We Are MILAN! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 5 2007, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM)


I like your attitude, as much as I don't agree with you, . (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 5 2007, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Costacurta @ Apr 5 2007, 10:08 AM)
Interesting discussion.
What I want to happen is usually not the same as what I anticipate ahppening. The same is true here. Obviosuly I want Milan to beat Bayern, and we will have to as I don't believe 3-3 is a possibility. However, I think it is unlikely. Last season I had a lot of faith in Pippo, but I think we all realise that he is, gradually, season by season losing his former predatorial clinical sbility. Without Gila, our chances are low. I don't think Oliveira will be any good. He has been just as hopeless as I anticipated before his arrival. As I don't believe we can win, we should put out a strong side for Empoli.

Getting 4th is paramount. Unless anyone here beleives we can battle through to the final and win it, any further efforts in the CL are a diversion, albeit enjoyable for us, from the real objective, a CL spot for next year. Real trouble if we don't make 4th.

So the match against Bayern we must not rest lots of players for, perhaps one or two, Kaka perhaps, Pirlo too. But little more. We will have to face Bayern perhaps a little tired but we shall have to go th extra mile.

Real problem for me was, largely due to our own formation, we pushed Kaka into being a winger rather than his traditional AMC. He must either hold that posn alone,w hich means Oliveira partners Pippo, not good a mon avi, or, as Han opined, play him as a CF, alongside Pippo, with Seedorf the AMC. The CM on the left could be taken by Serginho as so I subscribe to such a proposed formation, given the circumstances, otheriwse, yes, I would have opted for Pippo and Gila upfront togeter etc.

I think Bayern will manage to score once, either a 1-0 win to them, or 1-1. Either way, us, out.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Good post. Even though I think we should rest players against Empoli.

I'm really thorn about this. Thankfully I am not the one who has to make the decision, Carlo is.

But imo, we have good enough players to rotate for the game against Empoli and win it. With Serginho back Carlo has a lot of options of where he could field him to rest some players and get him match fit for Bayern. If he comes out with the form Nesta has then I will be more confident about him helping us against Bayern.
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post Apr 5 2007, 07:21 PM
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It seems that we won't be allowed to use the bwin.com thing on our shirt in this match. Probably some german rule or so.

Otherwise we'll have a 100.000 euros fine. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 5 2007, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Apr 5 2007, 06:21 PM)
It seems that we won't be allowed to use the bwin.com thing on our shirt in this match. Probably some german rule or so.

Otherwise we'll have a 100.000 euros fine.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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What the hell? So we'll be wearing no sponsor on our shirt?
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post Apr 5 2007, 07:31 PM
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maybe most of you don't give a sh*t about the past statistics (Under Berlusconi's area) but I found some interesting matches that made me more optimistic about this match:

Season 1988-1989
Quarter-final against Bremen
0-0 at Home, 0-1 Away win.

Semi-final:
First Leg: Milan - Real 1-1
Second Leg: Real - Milan 0-5


Season 1989-1990
Quarter-final
first-leg at home 0-0, second-leg away win 0-2 against Mechelen (never heard BTW)

again that's just history, but WE managed to do it in Berlusconi area, and we can do it again.

After all, I'm just trying to encourage you guys, coz I've never read so many pesimistic opinions in milanfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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