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Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2007, 06:05 PM
Champions League Match Day 5
Wednesday 28th November 2007
Time: 19.45 (UK Time) 20.45 (Italian Time)
Posted by: mishie Nov 25 2007, 06:10 PM
after watching Benfica last night not to many worries here...but they way we played today yo u just never know....but i'm going with a 1-2 win and qualification 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 25 2007, 06:30 PM
Milan will qualify .. No doubt in my mind, let it be against Benfica or Celtic 
For this game, I would put my money on a Milan win. Benfica is not what it used to be
Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2007, 07:33 PM
Hopefully we'll win and the other game gives us a favourable result.
If we can qualify as group winners in this game we can concentrate 100% on Serie A and the CWC until the CL restarts again
Posted by: Darunia Nov 26 2007, 07:30 AM
I think Ambro is suspended for this..
My lineup:
Dida
Oddo-Nesta-Bonera-Serginho
Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf
Kaka
Ronaldo-Gilardino
A win would be great but a draw would suffice. If Seedorf can't go, Carlo will use Brocchi ... and if Ronaldo is too tired, he should play Gourcuff in x-mas tree but that seems doubtful
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 26 2007, 09:12 AM
I'd thought initially Paolo would play for this. But I think he's in for the Juve match.
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 26 2007, 12:48 PM
i think that bonera deserves his start...maybe a starting team could look like this
gattuso - pirlo - serginho
kaka - seedorf
gilardino
i'm definite, that we'll play with one striker, one that hand ronaldo will start on the bench in my opinion...
this squad is just a speculation, it may look funny
Posted by: han2503 Nov 26 2007, 03:29 PM
Carlo will most probably go for the xmas tree, if Ambro is suspended then Brocchi will start 
But if Seedorf isn't ready to play then I think we'll go for 2 strikers, even though I think Carlo will try to save Ronnie for Juve, same goes for Maldini
Oddo--Nesta--Bonera--Sergio
-----Rino---Pirlo---Brocchi-----
---------Kaka--Seedorf---------
------------Gila/Pippo-----------
or
Oddo--Nesta--Bonera--Sergio
-----Rino---Pirlo---Brocchi-----
-------------Kaka---------------
-------Ronaldo--Gila-----------
It all depends on whether Seedorf is fit or not
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 26 2007, 03:59 PM
So han, u resorted back to the two DMs
Posted by: Darunia Nov 26 2007, 06:03 PM
Hopefully Pippo breaks the record
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 26 2007, 06:08 PM
Defenders: Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Kaladze, Maldini, Nesta, Oddo, Serginho, Simic.
Midfielders: Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà , Pirlo, Seedorf.
Attackers: Aubameyang, Gilardino, Ronaldo.
I think the formation would look like this:
Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf
---------Kaka'
Gilardino
-------------Ronaldo
Posted by: Darunia Nov 26 2007, 06:19 PM
No record for Pippo 
I hope Bonera gets the start, he deserves it
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 26 2007, 06:21 PM
Yeah he does ... Who knows, we might see him too 
Don't worry about Pippo, he'll score in Moscow 
Posted by: Tennie Nov 26 2007, 08:48 PM
(&%^(%^(^$^%£*^$(^%(*
Ahem.
I wanted to see Pippo break the record and I wanted to watch Il CAPITANO.
Even so, it should be a good game. The weather is very good for this time of year and Benfica are still missing their best DM (Petit is still training separately). So...win for Milan.
I'm very annoyed as after a trip to Sagres (see map) my camera is not working. Hoping to get it fixed so I can get a good shot of Seedorf's @ss for dst. (and one of NESTA for me)
(PS - Fillipo, your pm inbox is full).
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 26 2007, 09:06 PM
So ur finally gonna go
Hope u have a blast !!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Nov 27 2007, 05:39 AM
they are missing Cardoza i heard
Posted by: mkenya Nov 27 2007, 11:19 AM
[quote=Tennie,Nov 26 2007, 07:48 PM]
I'm very annoyed as after a trip to Sagres (see map) my camera is not working. Hoping to get it fixed so I can get a good shot of Seedorf's @ss for dst. (and one of NESTA for me)
...wish i could get yours.. 
Posted by: Warchant Nov 27 2007, 04:18 PM
Inzaghi, who is the Rossoneri's leading scorer in Europe's elite club competition with three goals netted so far, is struggling with the flu and has been ruled out for the midweek encounter in Portugal.
The good news for the European champions is that Brazil striker Ronaldo has fully recovered from a thigh injury.
Ronaldo, who made his season debut in Sunday's 2-1 triumph in Cagliari, looked in fine form earning his side a penalty before hitting the post.
However, coach Carlo Ancelotti is set to leave the South American on the bench and play instead with lone striker Alberto Gilardino against Benfica.
"I don't think Ronaldo will play from the start," admitted Ancelotti.
Milan go into the contest in Lisbon knowing that a win would be sufficient to see them through to the next round with a game in hand.
The Rossoneri lead Group D having collected nine points in their last four games and know the importance of this match.
"We want to do well in Portugal," said Gilardino. "We want to make sure we secure qualification in order to be able to focus on our domestic campaign."
A win on Wednesday would be a big morale boost for the Rossoneri, who must brace themselves for a challenging weekend when they host Juventus.
Milan have failed to win a league game at home and cannot afford further slips if they wish to reduce their current 11-point deficit with Serie A leaders Internazionale.
But the defending champions will not have an easy task against Jose Antonio Camacho's side.
Benfica are in desperate need of points if they wish to revive their hopes of progressing to the next round.
The Portuguese giants sit bottom of the group, three points adrift of Shakhtar Donetsk and Celtic.
No player knows the task awaiting Benfica better than Rui Costa, who spent five years with Milan before deciding to return home.
"We know it's going to be a very difficult challenge but not impossible," said the Portuguese midfielder.
"We will face Milan with the same respect that we showed against Academica."
Camacho's men go into the encounter inspired by their 3-1 away triumph at Academica Coimbra, which marked their fifth consecutive triumph in the Portuguese SuperLiga.
"This was a very important win for us," admitted Camacho, whose team are second in the Liga standings, four points behind leaders Porto. "Now we must recover our strength in time for Wednesday's game."
The hosts will be without Augustin Binya, who serves the first of a six-match ban against Milan.
The visitors will be without suspended Massimo Ambrosini and the injured Marek Jankulovski.
Milan are hoping to recover experienced midfielder Clarence Seedorf, who sprained his left ankle in training on Saturday.
Seedorf has travelled to Lisbon but it is doubtful whether he will feature in the game.
no record breaking
Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2007, 04:32 PM
Very funny
Just seeing it from Carlo's perspective, and I can't imagine him starting Yoann in this one. And I don't even know if I personally would have him in the starting 11 but definately as a sub to give him a run out especially if we manage to take control of the game by the end of the 1st half
Posted by: dst Nov 27 2007, 04:55 PM
Come one man, you've been brainwashed too?? We don't need two DMF's, Gourcuff is perfect for this game, can cause a big upset since they don't know him at all... Benfica won't sit back and defend like Celtic did, they'll give us space and Yoann can work his magic and get back his lost confidence!
If we are not planning to give him any chances or if we don't believe in him then let's give him a chance to develop by selling him!! I don't want to see his careed go down in Milan, no matter how big a career it can be...
Posted by: Portikins Nov 27 2007, 05:11 PM
Don Ronaldo arrivin' Lisbon.
Posted by: dst Nov 27 2007, 05:17 PM
Will you be going to the game?
Posted by: Portikins Nov 27 2007, 05:26 PM
No cash and more things to do in Porto. Probably not gonna watch it.
Posted by: Darunia Nov 27 2007, 05:28 PM
Only Gila from the start... Brocchi starting very probable.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2007, 07:48 PM
If we are not planning to give him any chances or if we don't believe in him then let's give him a chance to develop by selling him!! I don't want to see his careed go down in Milan, no matter how big a career it can be...
Of course not I've been arguing about this issue for nearly 3 days over in the other thread.
But as I also said I have no problem with using the 2 defensive mids in the CL it's in the Serie A that I have a problem with.
I personally would like to see Yoann get 45 whole minutes in this, just thought about giving them to him in the 2nd half because he is low on confidence and hopefully by then there would be no pressure on him and he can show us what he can really do.
But in the end we all know that Carlo will at most give him 20 minutes and that is a big if.
Posted by: jefri91 Nov 27 2007, 10:57 PM
wow? lol
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 27 2007, 11:07 PM
If we are not planning to give him any chances or if we don't believe in him then let's give him a chance to develop by selling him!! I don't want to see his careed go down in Milan, no matter how big a career it can be...
Hey .. Don't u ever interfere with my work again !
Or else, I'll have to rinse your brain and put it out to dry (deep fry) in the desert's sun
On a serious note though, I think Gourcuff will play in this tie, something like in the second half, if the team manages to close off the game.
But don't worry about his career ... He is convinced he wants to stay and I'm sure, as the season is still long, he'll get more chances
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 04:41 AM
In that pic, it's like one of those suspense thriller movies. Ronaldo is the rich gazillionaire mob boss, and Pirlo is the silent assassin tailing him. I mean just look at their costumes.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 08:27 AM
Exactly!
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 08:33 AM
You've been saying that since September... and he's been given... 2 chances (I don't count late subtitutes of course!)! That will make a total of less than 10 chances in the end of the season... not exactly what a young player needs to develop...
And what would be your role Willy??
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 10:48 AM
And what would be your role Willy??That one is easy. Keyser Söze. Just coz I've convinced the world I don't exist, doesn't mean I don't.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 28 2007, 11:39 AM
Ofcourse what I say doesn't necessarily mean it will happen, it is just how I see things ... But in the long run, he'll get to play. Not in Serie A or in CL though, rather the Coppa and maybe, just maybe start in some Serie A games IF he impresses. So I'd say he'd have 10 or so games to look forward too ... I'm not expecting him to bench anyone, anytime soon
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 11:59 AM
I'm not expecting him to bench anyone either. But that has nothing to do with it... we can't keep fielding the same 11 time and time again, we'll exhaust them to death... Gourcuff should be playing more, whether he's good enough or not... nowadays subtitutes are essential parts of a team. But oh wait, that's for teams who actually compete on all fronts, Milan have given up on the scudetto before it even started...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 28 2007, 12:14 PM
Maybe, maybe Milan just didn't want the Scudetto
Ofcourse rotation is important, especially for a long season like ours ... Just give it time .. There is still more games to play than what the team have already played in thus far.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 01:50 PM
The is not such thing 'didn't want' for Milan, but there is 'not doing enough'.
Everywhere the board, coach and the players was talking about scudetto. If Milan did the wrong things, it doesn't mean they didn't wanted to win it the first place. It's just means that some things must be fixes. I will never except 'Milan just didn't want the Scudetto'.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 28 2007, 02:39 PM
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 28 2007, 03:43 PM
Everywhere the board, coach and the players was talking about scudetto. If Milan did the wrong things, it doesn't mean they didn't wanted to win it the first place. It's just means that some things must be fixes. I will never except 'Milan just didn't want the Scudetto'.
I know ... I was just being as sarcastic as dst .... U of all ppl should have read through that
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 04:02 PM
Well, you have said it seriously a few times before...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 04:09 PM
Oh that was him being seriously sarcastic. You of all people should know that.
@R7: Don't ever say I haven't got your back!
Posted by: jefri91 Nov 28 2007, 05:13 PM
whats the most likely formation for this?
I heard we have no janku, seedorf, inzaghi, emerson, and ambrosini
This is a sign from God that we should start letting Gourcuff play
Posted by: Darunia Nov 28 2007, 06:16 PM
It's going to be something like this:
Dida
Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Serginho
Gattuso-Pirlo-Brocchi
Kaka-Seedorf
Gilardino
Carlo said Seedorf was fine, and Ronaldo would probably start from the bench.
Posted by: jefri91 Nov 28 2007, 06:37 PM
Dida
Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Serginho
Gattuso-Pirlo-Brocchi
Kaka-Seedorf
Gilardino
That man does not belong in milan
Posted by: Darunia Nov 28 2007, 07:48 PM
Lineup up, tactical not up yet but:
Dida
Bonera
Nesta
Kaladze
Serginho
Gattuso
Pirlo
Brocchi
Seedorf
Kaka
Gilardino
Bonera picked in front of Oddo and Cafu.. hope he impresses
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 07:59 PM
Everywhere the board, coach and the players was talking about scudetto. If Milan did the wrong things, it doesn't mean they didn't wanted to win it the first place. It's just means that some things must be fixes. I will never except 'Milan just didn't want the Scudetto'.
'The objective' at the start of the season was 'to win it all.'
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 08:00 PM
Bonera on the right...
and Brocchi picked head of Gourcuff... why, oh why?? It's not like that short lil' excuse of a player has any CL experience so why is he getting the nod? Arghh!!!!!
... I'm disappointed!
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 08:02 PM
'The objective' at the start of every season is 'to win it all' (except the Coppa. We leave it to Inter
).
Posted by: armisse Nov 28 2007, 08:04 PM
Benfica coach bring Nuno Gomez in , he want goals
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 08:05 PM
BENFICA-MILAN: FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
28/11/2007
BENFICA: Quim; Luis Filipe, Luisao, David Luiz, Leo; Katsouranis, Petit, Maxi Pereira; Rui Costa, C.Rodriguez; Nuno Gomes.
MILAN: Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Brocchi; Kakà , Seedorf; Gilardino.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 08:10 PM
Predictable and cautious Line up. From Jannuary we are gonna play more with 2 strikers (Pato and Ronaldo), and then Yoann will have even less playing time. We must loan him in the next transfer window.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 08:10 PM
).So it's not like our management have said at the start of the season that "**** Scudetto! we don't need that ****! we go after bigger fish"... [unlike what some people say].
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 08:14 PM
He's never going to shine at Milan... we should do him a favor and sell him to Arsenal. Then give them some money too and get Kolo!!!
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 08:16 PM
Of course they wanted to win it. They just wanted to do it with minimum investment and ignored the problems we had.
Posted by: arivanjj Nov 28 2007, 08:49 PM
good chance for Gila... cross just a bit ahead of him
Posted by: arivanjj Nov 28 2007, 08:52 PM
'6 mins and we're making good chances... Shakhtar is one up
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:01 PM
Great news. Milan and Shakhtar through would be perfect.
PIRLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:01 PM
1:0. GREAT STRIKE
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:03 PM
almost an own goal after Pirlo's free kick
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 09:04 PM
PIRLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know why but I don't like Shakhtar... I'd prefer Celtic to go through but I don't really care!
Pirlo is our man on form!
Didn't he hear the news, Ricky has already won the Golden Ball!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:04 PM
almost o.g. for 0-2
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:06 PM
1:1
Great goal though
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:06 PM
omg, what a strike...1-1
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:08 PM
Didn't he hear the news, Ricky has already won the Golden Ball! Pirlo already working on the next one
Chelsea winning 2:0 already (Drogba with both)
Liverpool 1:0 up. Torres
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:13 PM
brocchi already got on my nervs...on that right side could even play cafu, having bonera behind him...
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:17 PM
l'pool - porto 1-1 lopez
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:18 PM
l'pool - porto 1-1 lopez, gourcuff coming on
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:18 PM
Porto equalized
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:21 PM
what a miss for porto, that should be 1-2 for them..... omgggggg
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 09:23 PM
Gourcuff? Why? Is anyone injured?
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:25 PM
brocchi looked like, but seems to be allright now...0-3 chelsea
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:26 PM
Bremen scored the second!!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:30 PM
celtic - shakhtar 1-1
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 09:31 PM
I'm watching liv-porto right now... Quaresma looks like a badly over-hyped player! nothing special imo! at least in this match...
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:34 PM
but porto looked awesome in 1st half...great match in l'pool
i want ronaldo, gila touched the ball 5times if so...
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 09:34 PM
Great run by Rosenberg and a beautiful finish by Bouba Sanogo...seems they can really do something against big Real.
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 09:36 PM
It's not his fault... he is the only player in Benfica's half...
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Real are always playing bad in Germany. They got something like 1 win ,6 draws and 14 loses
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:42 PM
Rosenborg is losing 0-3 to chelsea
but still...we'll se how he reacts in first 10min of 2nd half
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 09:42 PM
So which goal do you think was better? I think Pirlo's is more beautiful... but I'm fairly biased!
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 09:48 PM
He's an inbox striker... and with Carletto's system he needs to draw back to get the ball... and even when he gets it there's no one there to support his move (since we're not attackin) and he has to give the ball back again... it's so deadly boring! Such a forward should be fielded along with support players... you can blame him for missing the chance from Brocchi's cross when the game was still at 0-0 though!
LOL! Lazio - Olympiacos is at 1-1... those two also have 5 points, 6 goals scored and 6 conceded each and the first game in Athens ended 1-1 too!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:50 PM
maldini is on...it seems like l'pools group will be the most interesting in the last round
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 09:50 PM
God on for Serginho... Tennie must be excited!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 09:54 PM
finally, brocchi out, gourcuff in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 09:55 PM
What a save by Casillas
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:56 PM
I think Pirlo's is more beautiful... but I'm fairly biased!To be fair, Benfica's goal was better
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 09:58 PM
Third goal is near
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:01 PM
3-1 werder
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:01 PM
3-1 Aaron Hunt....lol
Brillant finish by the young man.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:02 PM
3:1. Madrid is down
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:04 PM
ronaldo will come up yeahhhhhhh
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:05 PM
Benfica scored from the offside
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 10:05 PM
So how much time left in our game?
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:06 PM
24min
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:07 PM
3:1. Madrid is down
I dunno what's wrong with Real today...they're playing like....well.... naive school children. They leave spaces in midfield big enough for an army of trucky to go through. And RvN missed a goal even I would have scored (honestly).
Baumann almost 4-1. Casillas is the only Madrid player who's not sleeping today.
What's going on with Milan? Isn't Ricky doing something amazing?
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:07 PM
about 30minutes with probable added time...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 10:07 PM
What do u mean Benfica scored? It was offside, or they were given a goal even though it was offside?
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:08 PM
do you think carlo would take seedorf off for ronaldo??
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:09 PM
Look at the tickers pal...it wasn't regular.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:10 PM
Baumann almost 4-1. Casillas is the only Madrid player who's not sleeping today.
Real is unbalanced team wit many ups and downs. I hope we meet them in the CL later on.
Anyone would have scored taht one. Shocking miss, especially from RVN.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 28 2007, 10:12 PM
What tickers??
I'm just too lazy to open a new web page.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:12 PM
Still 1:0 20 min to go
Gomes missed a good chance.
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:13 PM
I'm just too lazy to open a new web page.
So...this is your ticker....
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:13 PM
0-4 chelsea
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:14 PM
RvN 3-2....that'll be tough 20 minutes for Bremen....Rosenberg could have scored the 4-1 moments before.
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:15 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, oddo is coming on...we wont see ronaldo
it's gona be tough now, benfica going for all, they don't have any other choice...
l'pool at least, torres...2-1
Posted by: daj0 Nov 28 2007, 10:18 PM
66' Absolute heroics from Dida, as he saves first from Nuno Gomes and then from Leo! --> Eurosport.co.uk
When did i last see something like that... Forza Dida and Forza Milano!!
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:18 PM
F@ck. Liverpool scored
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 10:19 PM
Liverpool scored. 2-1. sh1t!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:23 PM
penalty for l'pool, red card for porto should have been
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 10:23 PM
Penalty for Liverpool...
Gerrard... goal.
fvck!
Posted by: Warchant Nov 28 2007, 10:26 PM
we need to score
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:27 PM
4-1 l'pool, crouch...damn it
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 28 2007, 10:28 PM
Liverpool 4-1 Porto!
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:32 PM
OMGGGG, kaka....great dida pass, but kaka missed the goal
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Nov 28 2007, 10:32 PM
Kaka' even playing? Thought he might light up this game..
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:36 PM
FT 1-1...but kaka had 2 chances in last 3minutes to seal 3 points
Posted by: HasanHasanly Nov 28 2007, 10:36 PM
We Qualified, but Kaka...... no comments
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:37 PM
FT 1:1
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:39 PM
Benfica 1 - 1 AC Milan (1 - 1)
Besiktas 2 - 1 Marseille (1 - 0)
Celtic 2 - 1 Shakhter Donetsk (1 - 1)
Lazio 1 - 2 Olympiakos Piraeus (1 - 1)
Liverpool 4 - 1 FC Porto (1 - 1)
Rosenborg 0 - 4 Chelsea (0 - 3)
Valencia 0 - 0 FC Schalke 04 (0 - 0)
Werder Bremen 3 - 2 Real Madrid (2 - 1)
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 28 2007, 10:40 PM
2-1 for celtic
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:41 PM
Donati scored for Celtic in stoppage time
Posted by: han2503 Nov 28 2007, 10:42 PM
Wow that was bad, no comments
Now we can't lose to Celtic in the next game or we come in second
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 28 2007, 10:43 PM
that assures us a spot in the knockout... it good for us. cuz even if it was a tie celtic could get top spot if they beat us. if we tie celtic we get the top spot.
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 10:43 PM
yeah i saw, already edited it...
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 28 2007, 10:46 PM
we must take the top spot, we're out for sure if we dont get an easier matchup.
Posted by: misha Nov 28 2007, 10:49 PM
We are gonna beat Celtic, Donetsk gonna beat Benfica and both winners would go through.
BTW our group games are next week because of Club World Cup.
Posted by: Darunia Nov 28 2007, 10:51 PM
Celtic are terrible away from home... but we may rest some players.. we should get a draw at least though. I expect Shaktar to win at home and then Shaktar would go thru right? I think so.
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 10:52 PM
BTW our group games are next week because of Club World Cup.
Stupid CWC
Posted by: dst Nov 28 2007, 10:55 PM
Terrible performance by Milan...
Posted by: han2503 Nov 28 2007, 10:55 PM
If we want to try and actually go for this thing then we have to face the dufficuilt opponent whether it's sooner or later it will come.
But having home advantage in the second leg is the most important thing and that is something only the group winners have a privelage of getting. So getting that top spot is essential if we want to go to the quarters.
Today we were just plain awful, Kaka was no where to be found, Gila was totally iscolated, and in the end we were playing with 4 central defenders and a RB and still couldn't contain them and try to keep the ball for more then 2 seconds.
That was really bad, and if we don't want to lose against Celtic we better get our acts together.
Our heads were totally somewhere else no one was concentrated on the game, the defence kepts making mistakes, the midfield couldn't string 3 passes together and Gila had no support. It's like the team that stepped out there today was playing together for the first time and not for the 5 years they actually have been playing together for.
Gattuso was really bad also, bad passes that kept sparking Benfica counters and wasn't helping Bonera on the wing much either. Sergio also had a game to forget.
The only guys that played well were Nesta and Kaladze. Kaladze saved our @sses twice out there. And while they were playing well SEPERATELY, they were not playing well as a unit, which is the most important thing between the 2 center backs
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 28 2007, 11:09 PM
Yeah, the team started out strong .. But as the game dragged on, it seems as though Milan were a tad bit from having their usual perfect CL game.
I hope ur satisfied, Gourcuff played a whole half today
Posted by: Portikins Nov 28 2007, 11:13 PM
Another mediocre display. Just great.
Posted by: han2503 Nov 28 2007, 11:13 PM
Played well too. His nutcracker over the Benfica player (don't remeber who) on the wings when he flicked it over his head made me laugh
Too bad we could have snatched a win in the last minutes, even though we didn't deserve it
Posted by: aLbErTo Nov 28 2007, 11:15 PM
everyone forgot dida, he was the best today of our guys...it was a good result, but the play shown in 2nd half was a disaster...
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 28 2007, 11:23 PM
I've recorded the game to watch later, it sounds like it was a bad performance. A draw away from home is a decent result though, as long as we win our home games.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 28 2007, 11:26 PM
the sad thing is we'll barely win this group and we had the easiest draw...
Posted by: LaPalma Nov 28 2007, 11:47 PM
For once I have to say that we shouldn't moan about this result. This is Milan (OMG I sound like R7 )....Milan plays it's best football when it has too not when we want to see it.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 28 2007, 11:57 PM
Too bad we could have snatched a win in the last minutes, even though we didn't deserve it
Milan started off strong, and Benfica seemed lost at the start .. Too bad Gila forgot how to tuck the ball in under the Gkeeper
But yeah, overall, we deserved the point. And we qualified
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 29 2007, 12:12 AM
Yes, I have said it seriously before (and I still believe it) .. But my reply to dst was sarcastic
@R7: Don't ever say I haven't got your back!
Thank u
U still owe me a cup of coffee .. Don't think I'm letting u off the hook !
Posted by: amancik Nov 29 2007, 12:27 AM
)....Milan plays it's best football when it has too not when we want to see it.I agree, I'm happy that we're qualified. Of course everyone would've liked a win but we all know the situation. There's no doubt we are in need of fresh players in January. Maybe transfers in January will change the current underperforming Milan.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 29 2007, 01:19 AM
On seeing the game, it was a very disappointing performance. But as many have already said, we got the point, we qualified and we have a big game ahead of us.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Nov 29 2007, 03:32 AM
ya the result is what matters but if this continues and we get elimnated i expect a major shakeup, like 4-5 players out.
Posted by: gal_kenny Nov 29 2007, 07:21 AM
wat up ya'll can i get d match highlights please..i didn't watch the game..
Posted by: arivanjj Nov 29 2007, 07:47 AM
there you go mate.
http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5626
Posted by: arivanjj Nov 29 2007, 11:45 AM
damn you Ancelotti... the man was ready for atleast 20 mins
Posted by: m1ke Nov 29 2007, 11:58 AM
Carlo said that Ron felt a twinge whilst warming up, and did the right thing not to risk him when we didn't really need to score another goal.
I didn't think the performance was that bad. We were pinned back by a half decent side who had to win at all costs who were playing at home, so what. I'd rather we sat back and absorbed the pressure than play further up the pitch with a higher tempo, tiring our players out - especially with the fixture list we've got coming up. And with all the possession they had in the second half, they were only really limited to long range efforts that never really troubled Dida.
Essentially, we got the job done, no more, no less. My ratings:
Dida: 7
Bonera: 6
Nesta: 6.5
Kaladze: 7
Serginho: 5.5
Pirlo: 6.5
Gattuso: 5.5
Brocchi: 6
Seedorf: 6
Kaka: 5.5
Gila: 6
Maldini: 6.5
Oddo: 6
Gourcuff: 6.5
I was pleased for Yoann, I thought he had a tidy game and played well. I really hope he gets his chance soon.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 29 2007, 12:26 PM
How can he be so fragile?
Posted by: m1ke Nov 29 2007, 01:35 PM
I don't know, he's certainly not the R9 he used to be is he. But he's just coming back from a reasonably serious injury, so we can't expect too much.
I think he can still be useful, although it seems as though we're relying more and more on Pato's influence come January to take us all the way in the CL.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 29 2007, 03:18 PM
I think he can still be useful, although it seems as though we're relying more and more on Pato's influence come January to take us all the way in the CL.
Yes, we cannot expect too much, but starting the season with three strikers [one of them being injury-prone Ronaldo, who till this day has missed three months of action] is so hard to take that I'm still struggling to get along with. and this is not just a normal season; this is the world's busiest team's season.
As for Pato, I just hope he can survive from this unfair pressure our management are putting on his shoulders... it's no piece of cake for a 18yo to lead a team as big as Milan's CL campaign. I don't know why our management think otherwise.
Posted by: mkenya Nov 29 2007, 06:00 PM
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Phew! at least somebody in this forum is recognizing potential in him. If you ask me, i think the lad should get more time on the field to develop. People are different and we cant expect him to do a 'Kaka'.
Probably he needs more exposure to in live matches in order to be fully confident and mature as a player (who doesn't?).
Look at our squad, average age 30+, i don't understand....
Posted by: Tennie Nov 30 2007, 01:06 AM
Hiho all.
I'm just back from Lisbon (literally) and thought I'd add a couple of observations on the game and stuff that the TV probably didn't pick up.
1. Pato was there in warmups, chatting with Willy well before the match.
2. At the same time, Fester and Simic had a long conversation (20 minutes or so).
3. Vitoria (the eagle that's the Benfica mascot) is just /cool/.
4. Benfica's Luisao has braces.
5. You could've heard a pin drop when Pirlo scored his goal. The crowd was absolutely stunned.
6. There was applause even from the Benfica fans when Il Capitano came on.
7. The cameras may have picked it up but Ronnie warmed up for a good long while before he went over to the dugout and the physios worked on him for a few minutes. He sat back down.
8. Nesta was an absolute wall. A gorgeous one at that. [/girly comment]
9. There was applause when the Bremen-Madrid score was flashed on the big screen.
In general terms, I think Milan may have been playing for the draw. They didn't /need/ to win the game, after all. I think that the players were, to an extent, conserving energy by not going 100% all the time because the Juve game is coming up. That's also why there was such a bizarro lineup (that and stuff like Pippo's tonsilitis and Ronnie doing god knows what this time).
I did get my camera fixed - sort of - and have a couple of pictures that I'll try to post when I'm awake enough to figure out how to transfer them from camera to computer. (And yes, I even got one that dst will like).
Posted by: mishie Nov 30 2007, 01:37 AM
hope you enjoyed your trip and had a good time....shame we didn't win but at least we qualified!!
Posted by: dst Nov 30 2007, 01:57 AM
Interesting! Did you get anything from the vibe?? Please stay with us Dario!!!
You have to be kidding me!!Oh, there are are believers in Lisbon too!!
*proud*Hey, have I ever told you how much I adore Lisbon!??
Thanks for the info Tennie, I'm eagerly waiting for that pic...
Posted by: Tennie Nov 30 2007, 02:03 AM
As for the Fester-Simic convo, I couldn't really tell what they were saying (they were on the opposite side of the pitch), but it /seemed/ to be a cordial conversation. There appeared to be smiles and the like.
And yep, Luisao has braces. the old fashioned glue-them-to-your-teeth kind. Porty can probably find a picture (?).
Aside from the picture for dst, I've got one (I think) of Rui Costa and Il Capitano at the end of the game. Very nice pic if it turns out.
Also, players from both teams applauded the fans at the end of the game. There was a very small traveling contingent from Italy waaaaaay up in the nosebleed section behind one of the goals. They had a few banners too (from the banners I think it was Brigade Rossonere).
Posted by: Tennie Nov 30 2007, 03:54 AM
One more late addition before I collapse for some much-needed sleep.
Herewith are Gazzetta's player ratings for the game (and my translations of a couple of them):
Dida 6.5
Bonera 5.5
Nesta 7.5 (Unsurpassable. Starts well and ends better: as long as he's in this condition, Milan could allow him to stretch into the midfield)
Kaladze 7
Serginho 5
Maldini 6 (Three quarters of an hour on automatic pilot. He's nearly 40, but at times seems to have more energy than those who are young enough to be his sons).
Brocchi 6
Gourcuff 6
Pirlo 6.5
Gattuso 6.5
Kaka 5.5
Seedorf 5.5
Gilardino 5.5
(edited to fix typos)
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