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 May 1 2008, 11:24 PM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 2 2008, 01:18 AM) And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win?  Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:25 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 1 2008, 10:24 PM) Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Yes, but we're surely allowed to debate on things not involving Milan. Otherwise I welcomely offer one of the mods to lock it if they feel it inappropriate. |
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May 1 2008, 11:29 PM
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Token Girl  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
I have an idea!
How about we all agree to disagree on the issue, let it drop, and all go out for cookies and the liquid refreshment of our choice? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:32 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Tennie @ May 1 2008, 10:29 PM) I have an idea! How about we all agree to disagree on the issue, let it drop, and all go out for cookies and the liquid refreshment of our choice? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah, I have a paper due in tomorrow as well, I've yet to start it because of this damn forum. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:35 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 3,827 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2008, 11:12 PM) Villa, Everton, Spurs, Portsmouth, West Ham and Man City are all capable of beating the big 4. For example, we picked up 4 points off Chelsea this season, and on all of our away trips to the big 4, we only lost 1 game. As for the European Cup, no country has produced more winners than England - 4 teams. (And that's considering 2 of our big 4 have never won it). But like Tennie said, I suppose it is personal preference, I'm sure we can all find an arguement for each league. Of course, every team has it chances to beat another one, but I'm talking about the continuity, the quality of the play ... etc. European cups? Ok, lets start just since 1993 (since it's called The EUFA Champions League) 15 finals. CL : Italy : 10 times in the final (Milan and zebra) Spain : 7 times in the final (Real, Barça, Valencia) Germany : 4 times in the final (Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen) England : 4 times in the final (Man U, Diverpool, Arsenal) France : 2 times in the final (Marseille and Monaco) Holland : 2 times in the final (Ajax) Portugal : 1 time in the final (Porto) Eufa Cup: Italy : 8 times in the final (merda, Lazio, Parma, zebra) Spain : 5 times in the final (Sevilla, Espayol, Valencia, Alaves) Germany : 4 times in the final (Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke) England : 3 times in the final (Middlesbrough, Diverpool, Arsenal) France : 3 times in the final (Marseille, Bordeaux) Portugal : 2 time in the final (Porto, Sporting) Holland : 1 time in the final (Feyenoord) Russian : 1 time in the final (CSKA) Turkey : 1 time in the final (Galatasaray) Scotland : 1 time in the final (Celtic) Austria : 1 time in the final (Salzburg) Wonder where did you find those 4 English clubs that have won a European Cup? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:37 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,129 Joined: 12-February 07 From: Norway Member No.: 3,499 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 1 2008, 11:24 PM) Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Well I wasn't the one who started the EPL vs. Serie A discussion was I? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:41 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 3,827 |
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 1 2008, 11:18 PM) And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win? To make a good point you should look at the last 10 years and make the stats, it would be more fair than 1 year (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:41 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 2 2008, 01:37 AM) Well I wasn't the one who started the EPL vs. Serie A discussion was I? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) No your not (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We have said this tones of times, it's a matter of preference. But if you guys wanna have a go at it, please be my guest and open up a thread for the sole purpose of comparing leagues (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:42 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 10:35 PM) Of course, every team has it chances to beat another one, but I'm talking about the continuity, the quality of the play ... etc. European cups? Ok, lets start just since 1993 (since it's called The EUFA Champions League) 15 finals. Wonder where did you find those 4 English clubs that have won a European Cup? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) But you're basically saying "Okay, let's start whenever I feel like it, because it makes the EPL look bad" You do realise England dominated Europe from the 70s all the way through to the late 80s? When did the dominance stop - when we were kicked out, the teams were at a disadvantage when they were let back in as they weren't getting all the money from being in Europe like the other clubs were, and only recently recovered thanks to the huge tv money we're not getting. And even with the stas you've give, Italy only has 2 teams that've made finals. England have had 3. Like you said, 2 teams don't make a great league, it needs depth. England have 4 winners - Liverpool, Man U, Forest and Villa (Possibly Chelsea to add to that - no other country has 4. And most of these trophies were won when it was known as the European Cup, not the Champions League. I have always prefered the old format - mainly because it was a competition for Champions (Since when did finishing 4th place make you a Champion? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ). |
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May 1 2008, 11:45 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,129 Joined: 12-February 07 From: Norway Member No.: 3,499 |
QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 11:41 PM) To make a good point you should look at the last 10 years and make the stats, it would be more fair than 1 year (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Going back 10 years means that you can include players who are now retired, and as far as I know retired players don't have much of an effect on the current strenght of any leagues... |
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May 1 2008, 11:51 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Anyways, I think R7 is right. If we want a discussion like this, it needs to go in another thread of it's own.
Otherwise we'll be like Jack, the forum villain, just hijacking threads as he pleases! |
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May 1 2008, 11:52 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 3,827 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2008, 11:42 PM) But you're basically saying "Okay, let's start whenever I feel like it, because it makes the EPL look bad" You do realise England dominated Europe from the 70s all the way through to the late 80s? When did the dominance stop - when we were kicked out, the teams were at a disadvantage when they were let back in as they weren't getting all the money from being in Europe like the other clubs were, and only recently recovered thanks to the huge tv money we're not getting. And even with the stas you've give, Italy only has 2 teams that've made finals. England have had 3. Like you said, 2 teams don't make a great league, it needs depth. England have 4 winners - Liverpool, Man U, Forest and Villa (Possibly Chelsea to add to that - no other country has 4. And most of these trophies were won when it was known as the European Cup, not the Champions League. I have always prefered the old format - mainly because it was a competition for Champions (Since when did finishing 4th place make you a Champion? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ). Thanks man, you went where I wanted you to go (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's a matter of period of dominance, and up until now the Italian and Spanish football is better compared to the English one. Maybe you'll have the upper hand in 3-4 years (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh, and where is Villa and Forest now? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You know Uruguay won 2 World Cups too, are they a great football country? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now go finish your homework (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:57 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 10:52 PM) Oh, and where is Villa and Forest now? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Now go finish your homework (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Villa are doing just fine! We're 6th in the league! It aint gonna happen, I'll just have to make up some excuse, either that or be up until 4 in the morning again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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May 1 2008, 11:57 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 3,827 |
QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ May 1 2008, 11:45 PM) Going back 10 years means that you can include players who are now retired, and as far as I know retired players don't have much of an effect on the current strenght of any leagues... Maybe not the current but you'll have a better idea, if you want you can make the stats for the past generation (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 2 2008, 02:02 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
I hate you all and you're friendly little discussions... What happened to you bunch? Why no insults and childish remarks? Why all the grown up discussions... I'm falling asleep over here with my donuts policing this lovingly neighborhood... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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