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han2503
post May 1 2008, 03:05 PM
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If this is actually true then I'll be more happy then if we get R10.

Imo he's been the best defensive mid this season, if we get him we'll sell Brocchi along with Puma and we'll be more then covered in the defensive mid area

Flamini, Rino, Ambro.

Quality, youth and experiance

And lets face it, getting a player like him free is amazing and won't happen often

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post May 1 2008, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 01:42 PM)
Wow, I never thought someone can compare Arsenal to Milan, let alone think that they match us in term of prestige (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Players usually sign for a club for the future not the past, so they don't care if you were not doing well in the championship for


I think you over estimate Arsenal and the English clubs, actually they don't even come close to the likes of Milan and Madrid, there's only diverpool and man u who come close to this elite, and they're a step down with Bayern, Ajax and Co.
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You say they sign for a club for the future, and not the past. So what does the prestige of Milan have to do with anything. Yes, we were great in the past, but there's no certainty that we will be in the future.

I over-estimate English clubs? I dunno about that. The Premier League is very strong, and it's not just 1 team that carries the league. In the last 3 years, we've had 4 DIFFERENT representatives in the European Cup Final, I think it'd be difficult to find another league that has done that over a decade, forget a 3 years period.

It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post May 1 2008, 04:10 PM
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There is no certainty that I will live tomorrow...

Well... Actually there is. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But you get my point!
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post May 1 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ May 1 2008, 06:40 PM)
There is no certainty that I will live tomorrow...

Well... Actually there is. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But you get my point!
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post May 1 2008, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 1 2008, 05:47 PM)
Everyone cares about the money. don't make it sound like it's something uncommon! he's young and it wouldn't be a disaster if he missed one season of playing in the CL so the fact that he's [supposedly] chosen Milan over Juve doesn't necessarily mean he only thinks about money.
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Not everyone. Paolo gets less than a million a year, while Nesta around 6 million. Sure there is a difference between them, Sandro is in his peak, and most probably plays more matches, but when it comes to putting in the effort they both do the same. Maldini even puts up more. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

At the other end of the spectrum you've got a Juve legend like Del Piero contemplating leaving for another club just because of a few coins. Case in point: There are a whole lot of players who still don't give a hoot about $$$. Ronaldo is another. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 1 2008, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2008, 07:32 PM)
It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways.
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Neither do I, but at the same time I respect the fact that they're the number one league in the world. Having three teams in the final four of Europe for all these years, is no fluke, of course. You have to be the best to stay the best. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It's just that I prefer an alternate style of football than the one we witnessed yesterday in the Chelsea vs Pool match.

Short passes, and technical play rules the world. Hehe. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 1 2008, 05:02 PM
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This isn't a very reliable source or quote.. I don't know if he said that or not. I think we're getting closer though. The "deadline" is over.
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post May 1 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ May 1 2008, 03:24 PM)
He care more about the money...
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Well, yeah .. But he could earn the same if he moved to Juve, considering he moves there on a free too. Moreover, Juve have guaranteed CL football, and they are still building a team in comparison to Milan.
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post May 1 2008, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2008, 03:32 PM)
You say they sign for a club for the future, and not the past. So what does the prestige of Milan have to do with anything. Yes, we were great in the past, but there's no certainty that we will be in the future.

I over-estimate English clubs? I dunno about that. The Premier League is very strong, and it's not just 1 team that carries the league. In the last 3 years, we've had 4 DIFFERENT representatives in the European Cup Final, I think it'd be difficult to find another league that has done that over a decade, forget a 3 years period.

It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Ok, I talked about prestige just because you said it's not ambitious to quit Arsenal for Milan! The prestige is related to the history of the club, when I talked about the past I meant the 2-3 past years!

The EPL is not strong it's quite weak to be honest. Having 4 very good teams when the rest of the clubs are at best average, doesn't mean that the league is strong! The difference between the top club and the rest is so huge that you can hardly talk about a championship, let alone a strong one!
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post May 1 2008, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 09:00 PM)
The EPL is not strong it's quite weak to be honest. Having 4 very good teams when the rest of the clubs are at best average, doesn't mean that the league is strong! The difference between the top club and the rest is so huge that you can hardly talk about a championship, let alone a strong one!
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It's the same in most leagues, even worse. How close exactly is Serie A and La Liga?

As a supporter of the team that's going to finish 5th/6th I'm offended by that. To call us average is just unfair, only Arsenal and United have scored more goals than us, and only Fabregas has more assists than our Ashley Young! At best average? You do realise the team that's going to finish in the bottom 5 - Middlesbrough - made a UEFA Cup Final recently? Everton and Spurs did well in the UEFA Cup this year - only to lose on penalties.

Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.
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post May 1 2008, 10:57 PM
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I think that the EPL/Serie A/ La Liga discussion really just boils down to a matter of personal preference.

Some prefer one league over another. It doesn't necessarily mean that the league they prefer is better or that the others are populated by nothing but Kaladzities. It's just a matter of what the individual in question enjoys. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Speaking for myself, I prefer Serie A followed by the Bundesliga and La Liga (in that order). I just don't - in general terms - enjoy watching the style of play that one generally sees in the EPL. It bores me to tears. I'll also note that I'm very much the minority among my friends here in DC. They all think the EPL is the bestest ever.

So...personal preference seems to rule this one. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 1 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ May 1 2008, 02:05 PM)
If this is actually true then I'll be more happy then if we get R10.

Imo he's been the best defensive mid this season, if we get him we'll sell Brocchi along with Puma and we'll be more then covered in the defensive mid area

Flamini, Rino, Ambro.

Quality, youth and experiance

And lets face it, getting a player like him free is amazing and won't happen often
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I am for getting rid of Brocchi and Emo, but we must replace them. Even then, we should retain Brocchi, purely because he counts as a homegrown player

Unless of course the replacements are ex-primavera

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post May 1 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 1 2008, 10:45 PM)
It's the same in most leagues, even worse. How close exactly is Serie A and La Liga?

As a supporter of the team that's going to finish 5th/6th I'm offended by that. To call us average is just unfair, only Arsenal and United have scored more goals than us, and only Fabregas has more assists than our Ashley Young! At best average? You do realise the team that's going to finish in the bottom 5 - Middlesbrough - made a UEFA Cup Final recently? Everton and Spurs did well in the UEFA Cup this year - only to lose on penalties.

Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.
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No it's not the same in the other leagues. The difference between the level of the top 4 and the rest is HUGE in England! In Italy teams like Fiorentina, Udinese, Sampdoria, Napoli, Lazio, Parma and even Palermo can easily defeat one of the top teams and produce a great football! In Spain it's the same thing, Valencia, Depor, Sevilla, Villarreal, l'Atletico. Check out the last decade and tell me how many teams (apart from the top 4 in Italy and Engalnd + Real and Barça) from each country reached the semis or the final of a European cup, and we'll talk again.

P.S. It could be the fact that I don't rate the English football though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Edit. Tennie, I don't think it's, in my case, a matter of preference, I just think and always thought it's easier to play in England than in any other championship (Italy, Spain, France and Germany). That's why I don't rate the English football, the tactic and defensive skills are just ... well, let's just leave it at that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post May 1 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 10:05 PM)
No it's not the same in the other leagues. The difference between the level of the top 4 and the rest is HUGE in England! In Italy teams like Fiorentina, Udinese, Sampdoria, Napoli, Lazio, Parma and even Palermo can easily defeat one of the top teams and produce a great football! In Spain it's the same thing, Valencia, Depor, Sevilla, Villarreal, l'Atletico. Check out the last decade and tell me how many teams (apart from the top 4 in Italy and Engalnd + Real and Barça) from each country reached the semis or the final of a European cup, and we'll talk again.

P.S. It could be the fact that I don't rate the English football though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Villa, Everton, Spurs, Portsmouth, West Ham and Man City are all capable of beating the big 4. For example, we picked up 4 points off Chelsea this season, and on all of our away trips to the big 4, we only lost 1 game.

As for the European Cup, no country has produced more winners than England - 4 teams. (And that's considering 2 of our big 4 have never won it).

But like Tennie said, I suppose it is personal preference, I'm sure we can all find an arguement for each league.
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post May 1 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ May 1 2008, 11:05 PM)


And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win?
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