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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 07/08 _ 02/03/08 - Serie A - AC Milan vs. S.S. Lazio
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 10:28 PM
Milan vs. Lazio
Sunday, March 2, 2008
20:30 (IT)
Posted by: Darunia Feb 27 2008, 10:42 PM
Kalac
Oddo-Nesta-Kaladze-Jankulovski
Gattuso-Pirlo-Gourcuff
Seedorf
Gilardino-Pato
I would like to rest some players, but we need the pts.
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 10:49 PM
I hope we will put on a good performance but I doubt it considering that the match with Arsenal is just 2 days later... why is this game on Sunday!?!?!?! This can't be right... 
Posted by: acid911 Feb 27 2008, 11:15 PM
Crucial encounter. But with the kind of tactics I've seen from our coach, and the play we've been putting up lately, I'd bet on and be happy with a draw. Unless a lucky goal sees us through to a win, which seems highly unlikely. 
Let's hope for the best, though, as always! 
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 11:24 PM
And it is wrong,..I'm sorry, I've picked the date automatically from the official ac milan site without thinking. We're playing on Saturday, the 1st of March!
Sorry..
Posted by: arivanjj Feb 28 2008, 12:22 AM
another JUICY draw 
Posted by: DejoEjo Feb 28 2008, 12:40 AM
Let's hope for the best, though, as always!
Yek
Posted by: DejoEjo Feb 28 2008, 12:40 AM
Sorry..
Å ta je Å¡ta govoriÅ¡p engleski?? Ajd marÅ¡ vqan odavde đubre jedno
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 12:43 AM
Ajde Dejo, goni se odavde ako misliÅ¡ biti takva Å¡upčina.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2008, 12:47 AM
???
Take it easy...
Posted by: arivanjj Feb 28 2008, 12:48 AM
Take it easy...
he/she said...?
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 12:52 AM
What is it, why are you speaking in english. Get the f@ck out of here you stupid assh@le.
It's something like that.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2008, 12:52 AM
That I should talk in croatian or leave. But not with those exact words if you get me,..
Posted by: DejoEjo Feb 28 2008, 12:59 AM
AJDE NE SREI TU GLUPANE, KOJI HRVATSKI MATER TI!!!
Велика Србија!!!!!121
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 01:01 AM
C'mon Mike, BAN this piece of ****.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 01:05 AM
Велика Србија!!!!!121
Whata'hell is this? The mupett show?
It would be nice if some mod do the right thing and ban this serbian cunto.
Posted by: DejoEjo Feb 28 2008, 01:21 AM
It would be nice if some mod do the right thing and ban this serbian cunto.
Å TA JE Å TA ČEÅ TI TI ČUTI BUDALO!!
DAJTE TU DEMOKRATIJA, DI VAM JE A???????
eTO VAM JEDINOG PRAVOG MILANA PAPCI
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 01:26 AM
DAJTE TU DEMOKRATIJA, DI VAM JE A???????
eTO VAM JEDINOG PRAVOG MILANA PAPCI
OVDJE JE DEMOKRACIJA ALI MORA BITI CIVILIZIRANA A NE BALKANSKA! Savičević je jedina prava stvar Å¡ta si je učinio do sada.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 01:26 AM
DAJTE TU DEMOKRATIJA, DI VAM JE A???????
eTO VAM JEDINOG PRAVOG MILANA PAPCI
I swear I'd love to know what you're writting. But I only speak 5-6 languages.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2008, 01:28 AM
He called you a fool and asked for democracy (probably cause he knows the word ban)...
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 01:32 AM
First rule of this forum: English only. Nice and clear.
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 01:33 AM
What is it, what do you want, be quiet you fool!!
Where is your democracy in here??
Savičević
Here you go, one true milanista, you pricks (I couldn't find a more appropriate word - maybe Fillipo will help me).
Posted by: DejoEjo Feb 28 2008, 01:37 AM
ENGLISCH FOR YOU SUCKER!! GET RID OF CROATS AND I MIGHTS JOIN YOU,BUT MIHAJLOVIČ IS KING!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2008, 01:42 AM
Where is your democracy in here??
Savičević
Here you go, one true milanista, you pricks (I couldn't find a more appropriate word - maybe Fillipo will help me).
Well, as far as I know,..this would be the best translation. But we should not bother to go on. He's not very rich in imagination,..
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 01:43 AM
Get rid of stupidity and I "mights" join you.
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 01:44 AM
Wrong forum, accept and respect everybody or take a hike! Plus Mihajlovič is a bit of an arrogant person who played for the merda, so definitly not our stuff (although he scored great free kicks).
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 01:44 AM
Oh dear, oh dear. Porty's found dst's stash of scary cat pictures!
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 28 2008, 01:49 AM
I agree and let's just ignore him.
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 28 2008, 02:08 AM
I love how everybody got so worked up and emotional over this guy that we don't even know... 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 28 2008, 02:10 AM
lol he hijacked the thread
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 28 2008, 02:13 AM
unleash our anger at him for the 1-1 draw
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 02:14 AM
Personally, I'm still traumatized by Porty's scary cat picture! 
Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 02:16 AM
I love the new members!! At last some drama!!
It's cuntic in this case maybe?
But... who said we want you to join us???
And we certainly won't get rid of our Croats and Slovenians so get the **** out of here as soon as possible!
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 02:18 AM
Oh I must thank Fillipo Simone and Diavolo for the translations.
Anyway, Lazio. Though match and they'll want revenge from the 1-5.
And after what I saw tonight... I dunno.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 02:26 AM
Boy, all I can say is that somebody's been taking their vitamins and saying their prayers. Hey, DejoEjo, you seem to have plenty of time on your hands for posting crap. Where do you work? And is there a vacancy available for me?
Might as well drop my CV with you. Hehe.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 02:30 AM
I think Milan will have more of a real starting XI for the Lazio game (sorry, dst, I count Kaladze as part of that XI).
Lazio's been doing very poorly this season. They'll want revenge for the hammering, but even so I feel quietly confident about this game.
Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 02:30 AM
Anyway, Lazio. Though match and they'll want revenge from the 1-5.
And after what I saw tonight... I dunno.
I do wonder... getting eliminated by Arsenal might be the best thing we can do!
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 28 2008, 02:33 AM
Stop editing your signature after every game, you dork.
Posted by: Portikins Feb 28 2008, 02:37 AM
I said it the other day. Surprisingly I was not insulted.
Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 02:41 AM
... I'm not sad because you called me a dork... nor because you don't appreciate my efforts of keeping my sig up to date!
I'm sad because you seem like a neat guy that will get burned in hell for not believing in God!!!!!!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 28 2008, 02:51 AM
... I'm not sad because you called me a dork... nor because you don't appreciate my efforts of keeping my sig up to date!
I'm sad because you seem like a neat guy that will get burned in hell for not believing in God!!!!!!!!
Let's keep this going.
Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 02:58 AM
Keep what going?
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 03:29 AM
I'm certain that we'll be seeing a fairly strong Milan lineup, even with Arsenal coming up soon after that. Hopefully we can put up a better performance in front of our home crowd. I predict 2-1, though it won't surprise me a bit if we manage to scrap with a draw.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 28 2008, 04:38 AM
I just love how we managed to keep this forum in the 'Matches' section
entitled Ac vs Lazio strictly about that! 
LOL
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 28 2008, 05:12 AM
DAJTE TU DEMOKRATIJA, DI VAM JE A???????
eTO VAM JEDINOG PRAVOG MILANA PAPCI
have fun losing the mother land (kosovo) you kractbic.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 28 2008, 05:19 AM
dont be bitter cuz croatia owns ur *** with alll this young talent, modric, rakitic,srna, eduardo,etc
Posted by: MizNelson Feb 28 2008, 05:47 AM
Is that a Croatian epithet?
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 28 2008, 06:15 AM
heheh i invented it
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 06:48 AM
Who the hell was he/she?! 
I want some peace over here! ban him!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 06:51 AM
As for the match against the eagles, I'm optimistic. with some of our first team players back and the game in San Siro, I think we can win. I'm not really worried about this one...
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 28 2008, 07:34 AM
it was just a matter of time before the greek and the persian go head to head, just as the serbs and croats did today
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 28 2008, 08:20 AM
It would be nice if some mod do the right thing and ban this serbian cunto.
Posted by: misha Feb 28 2008, 10:20 AM
Posted by: m1ke Feb 28 2008, 10:42 AM
This guy clearly had no intention of respecting the rules or taking part in a civil discussion. He won't be coming back.
Anyway, back on topic. Fiorentina have got Juve away this weekend. Hopefully Rubentus can do us a favour for a change.
Posted by: nuh Feb 28 2008, 12:22 PM
i see us wining 3-0 and pato with the 3 goals
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 03:21 PM
Lol. I'd rather save the hatrick against Arsenal.
For now I'd be content with a win - whichever way it comes.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 04:40 PM
For now I'd be content with a win - whichever way it comes.+1.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 28 2008, 08:12 PM
Points here are important, and hopefully Juventus can do us a favor and we can regain 4th place. I just hope no one gets injured.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 09:14 PM
Exactly. I hope Kaka doesn't start /or/ play at all on Saturday [which seems to be the case]. and maybe we should give Pato a time to breathe?! he's been playing every 3-4 days whenever available. we NEED his pace against Arsenal. I hope for a Gila-Paloshi or something like that on Saturday...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 09:20 PM
I'd imagine that one of the former Lazio captains (Nesta or Oddo; Favalli doesn't count since he's sitting out a ban for yellow card accumulation) will play the majority of this game. Lazio are really struggling in Serie A but they're not going to be an easy team for Milan - at least the type of Milan we saw in Sicily yesterday - to beat.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 09:38 PM
Yeah, the scary side of Milan. I can only hope we see the good side fielded against Lazio, the one that plays positively and has a desire to win - not draw. Guess we'll know in a couple of days time.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 28 2008, 11:02 PM
I'm expecting Nesta and Oddo to start, but I hope Nesta gets a breather at HT because he is vital for Arsenal.
Posted by: m1ke Feb 29 2008, 11:04 AM
C4 preview
Milan welcome Lazio to the Meazza with open arms as the Rossoneri look for a repeat performance of their stunning 5-1 victory against the Biancocelesti last October. Carlo Ancelotti’s side relinquished fourth place at bogey side Catania on Wednesday evening and cannot afford to slip up if they are to qualify for the Champions League next term.
The European champions were sluggish at the Massimino. Paolo Maldini captained a starting XI, including Alexandre Pato, with an average age of 32 to a dismal 1-1 draw. The absences of Kaka and Pirlo were telling as Milan lacked any creative spark and had to rely on the individual brilliance of Pato to get a result. Ancelotti said: “It was a missed opportunity. We took the lead and I am disappointed we could not manage it better.â€
Fiorentina’s defeat of Livorno means that the Rossoneri cannot relax against Lazio ahead of their European tie with Arsenal on Tuesday. The home side have to win if they are to keep step with the Viola. Milan’s run-in is tougher than the other contenders vying for a final Champions League spot – the Rossoneri go to Udine on the final day of the season and have yet to travel to Juventus, Roma and Napoli.
Milanisti woes are compounded by the suspension of Giuseppe Favalli and doubts over the fitness of Rino Gattuso, Kakha Kaladze and former Laziale Alessandro Nesta. Milan’s home record of only four wins out of 12 would give heart to Lazio if only they were decent on their travels. Delio Rossi’s outfit have only won once away all season and the Aquilotti haven’t been victorious at the San Siro in Serie A since 1989 when Maldini scored an own goal.
It’s been an odd campaign for Lazio who, this time last year, were enjoying a run of eight consecutive victories that incredibly led them to third place and a European berth in spite of a penalisation levied for involvement in Calciopoli.
But the Champions League damaged the club’s domestic form. While competing in the group stages between October and November the capital side lost four games in a row and are still struggling for consistency. January signing Rolando Bianchi is trying to help the team turn over a new leaf – he got his first goal and three points for the Laziali against his old club Reggina in midweek.
The comeback of Tommaso Rocchi to the team – and the scoring charts – after injury and the return of Valon Behrami from suspension give Delio Rossi plenty of options to break an almost 20-year duck at the San Siro.
Keep an eye on: Alexandre Pato (Milan) – Younger by seven years than his teammates on Wednesday, Il Papero has lived up to the hype. He has netted five times in eight games with both feet and is responding well to the added responsibility that came after Ronaldo’s injury.
Last season: Milan 2-1 Lazio
Form guide: Milan (W W DW D) Lazio (D W L W L W)
Milan (probable): Kalac; Oddo, Maldini, Bonera, Cafu; Ambrosini, Pirlo, Brocchi; Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
Lazio (probable): Ballotta; Radu, Cribari, Siviglia, De Silvestri; Manfredini, Ledesma, Dabo; Meghni; Pandev, Bianchi
Ref: To follow...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 29 2008, 12:15 PM
"Il Papero"
Posted by: Tennie Feb 29 2008, 03:14 PM
Long and meandering pre-match press conference by Carletto today.
Highlights:
*No Kaka, though probably for the Arsenal game
*Ditto Nesta
*Pirlo may or may not play; it'll be a game day decision
*Gilardino may play
*Pato can do more than has been seen in games
The referee for the game will be Domenico Celi, one of the new young refs. He's refereed 11 games in Serie A, none for Milan so far.
Posted by: mkenya Feb 29 2008, 03:37 PM
[quote=Tennie,Feb 29 2008, 02:14 PM]
Long and meandering pre-match press conference by Carletto today.
Highlights:
*No Kaka, though probably for the Arsenal game
*Ditto Nesta
*Pirlo may or may not play; it'll be a game day decision
*Gilardino may play
*Pato can do more than has been seen in games
Nothing more to say, with an average age of 32, what does the future hold? Players like Gourcuff not being given enough time to build confidence, same as Bonera (then Carletto admitting that he wasn't treated fairly after seeing him shine!), what's up? Can anyone answer me this question? what does the future hold?? Probably it would take losing to Arsenal for the management to wake up!!
Posted by: acid911 Feb 29 2008, 04:49 PM
No Kaka, though probably for the Arsenal game (Sounds good)
Ditto Nesta (Ditto)
Pirlo may or may not play; it'll be a game day decision (We might not live long enough to regret it if not)
Gilardino may play (I'm okay with that)
Pato can do more than has been seen in games (We already know that, you silly rabbit)
What surprise me is no mention of Gorcuff, even at this do or die, crunch stage of the season. Granted he's low on confidence and maybe his technique is different than what Carlo wants, but still we need creative players to motivate our stagnant midfield. We need attack minded approach if we want to stay in the race for fourth place. I only hope Gorcuff shows courage and stands up against his problems.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 29 2008, 05:06 PM
I'll probably get slated for saying this, but...well, I'm just not all that impressed with Gourcuff. His first touch is great, but not his second and I'm not at all sure of his attitude.
I do trust Ancelotti to do the best he can with the players that're at his disposal. There's got to be some reason why he's not fielding Gourcuff more frequently and if it comes down to it, I trust Carletto more than I trust Gourcuff.
That said, onto today's training (from acmilan.com's italian page): Talk followed by warmups and then a practice game. Seedorf, Nesta, Pirlo, and Kaka trained separately.
We obviously need some sort of playmaker on the pitch. If for whatever reason it's not deemed appropriate to start or play Gourcuff on Sunday, I wouldn't mind seeing Carletto give a shot to Kingsley Umunegbu from the Primavera. From what I gather, he's an AM with a lot of potential.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 29 2008, 05:31 PM
You're right on more than one count, Tennie, but it defies logic going in with such low creativity in the midfield in these crucial encounters. They way we play, we need more than one playmaker to really mount an effective attack. The team looks decent when both Pirlo and Kaka are playing, but we're toothless when they're not.
Some may not agree with me here but from the games we're played in the league this year, apart from one or two good performances, we've been lucky to get away with 3 points. Scoring goals in the last quarter of the match (against mid-table teams) is not the way for World Champions to play. Not to mention we failed to keep the lead is worrying in itself.
Getting back to Gorcuff, I really hope it's not his attitude problem. I'd be pretty disappointed myself if I came on the last 5-10 minutes in a match, and players like Brocchi were preffered - when clearly the lack of creativity is hurting the team. Look at Paloschi - we tried him, and know that we have someone to fall back on in case of an emergency. Still like you said, if it came to trust I'd trust Ancelotti. Not very much, but I still like him.
Posted by: nuh Feb 29 2008, 05:39 PM
yeah i am with u tenni cuz how come carlo has trust with both palo and pato and not gourcuff and i dunno i dont like the way he plays these days but i am with carlo
Posted by: Tennie Feb 29 2008, 05:40 PM
(call up list from the news ticker on acmilan.com's italian page)
Hrm. Well, I was partly right, it would appear. No Kingsley but a whole host of other Primavera have been called up for the game. Carletto's taking the Gooner match midweek VERY seriously.
PORTIERI: Fiori, Kalac, Offredi;
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Darmian (n.36), Digao, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Maldini, Oddo;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Caraglia (n.39), Emerson, Gattuso, Gianola (n.35), Gourcuff, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Aubameyang (n.94), Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato, Paloschi
Before anyone asks, it's Willy and not Pierre; this, according to the squad list-with-pictures-and-jersey-numbers on acmilan.com.
Caraglia and Gianola are both 18 and both local boys; Caraglia's scored a good few goals for the kids this year. Darmian's good in defense and I wouldn't be surprised if he was bumped up to the senior team this year.
EDIT: Darmian and Paloschi are two of the 3 Milan kids called up this week.
Posted by: nuh Feb 29 2008, 05:46 PM
is daramin that gd ??....and do u think there is a video that i could watch from him ?
Posted by: Tennie Feb 29 2008, 05:53 PM
Eek, videos? I'm not a good person to ask about those. Technology is scary for me.
What I can say is that I saw Darmian play in the Udinese game last May -- it was Billy's farewell game and the last home game before the CL final. He impressed me -- and apparently he impressed the papers too, as Gazzetta gave him a rating of 6, which is pretty good for a kid.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 29 2008, 06:57 PM
I want Darmian to play tomorrow! really curious to see why he's so highly-rated.
Posted by: Darunia Feb 29 2008, 07:21 PM
I'm surprised Maldini is called up, he played on Wed and never plays two games in a row.
I expect
Kalac
Oddo Bonera Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Emerson Gourcuff
Seedorf
Pato Gilardino
Maybe Ambro for Gourcuff. Both should see time, Brocchi/Pirlo/Kaka not called up.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2008, 09:41 PM
I'm 100% with you. There is something wrong with Yohann. Carlo would have given him an oppotunity otherwise - hell, he scored in his first CL match, did well at the beginning, etc. But it looks like Carlo crossed him out for a reason. It's not that Ancelotti is the most stubborn coach in the world; and it's not like Carlo adores Brocchi. But for some reason he gives even a mediocre or bad Brocchi the advantage.
I agree, but we all know that it won't happen. Look how Paloschi did well, and how hard he finds playing time.
One thing bothers me - this season is a bad one, clearly. Some players will leave, some others retire. We are struggling to finish 4th. But I understand why and do not complain much. I'm fine with Carlo in 08/09 either. But what I don't understand is why doesn't Carlo experiment more? Honestly, why doesn't he try Ibrahim Ba out (prepared to be laughed out..
)? I mean, not that Ba is the end of the World. He played with Milan, has experience, maybe he would bring something, let's say against a crappy Empoli or Reggina team? Or why not like Tennie suggested, Umunegbu? Or Willy? Why don't we try playing Gila-Palo-Pippo in one, or I dunno...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 29 2008, 11:51 PM
Quick programming note: Fox Soccer Channel is showing this one live. For those who watch on telly or via stream, let's all hope for one of the clueful commentators.
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 12:16 AM
i dont know why pirlo isnt called for this game... we should have called him i thinkl
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 12:28 AM
I agree, but we all know that it won't happen. Look how Paloschi did well, and how hard he finds playing time.
One thing bothers me - this season is a bad one, clearly. Some players will leave, some others retire. We are struggling to finish 4th. But I understand why and do not complain much. I'm fine with Carlo in 08/09 either. But what I don't understand is why doesn't Carlo experiment more? Honestly, why doesn't he try Ibrahim Ba out (prepared to be laughed out..
)? I mean, not that Ba is the end of the World. He played with Milan, has experience, maybe he would bring something, let's say against a crappy Empoli or Reggina team? Or why not like Tennie suggested, Umunegbu? Or Willy? Why don't we try playing Gila-Palo-Pippo in one, or I dunno...You are thinking of a 4-3-3 right? Unfortunately that cant work with those strikers. You need Palladino/Quagliarella/Di Natale style forwards for that to work, as you usually have 3 MC's or 1 DMC + 2 MC's, if that happens there is no width, therefore teams can easily deal with attacks
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 01:30 AM
Have not heard of them before. It's good to get these kids to know the senior squad and the ritiro ways a bit better although it's highly unlikely that they will feature in this game.
He is highly-rated cause he's going to be ****ing great!
Kalac
Oddo Bonera Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Emerson Gourcuff
Seedorf
Pato Gilardino
Surprised? Non-believers...
I love this line-up. But Gourcuff won't start, will he?
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 02:42 AM
Ambro will
... and we'll struggle to score. Same old story.
Posted by: acid911 Mar 1 2008, 03:03 AM
Could be worse. Lazio will be worked up after the 5-1 drubbing at their home, so unless we put up our A-game we might not even be in line for a draw. Plus we don't have Pirlo and Kaka. Let's hope for the best though come tomorrow.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 06:25 PM
This game is in two hours.. where is everyone??!!
Cmon Milan, let's go into the Arsenal game with a little momentum!
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 08:06 PM
starting eleven not yet announced 25 mins to go
Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 1 2008, 08:08 PM
That's what I want to see on the field!
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 08:08 PM
Cmon Milan, let's go into the Arsenal game with a little momentum!
ALE MILAN ALE !!!!
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 08:11 PM
Cmon Milan, let's go into the Arsenal game with a little momentum!
ALE MILAN ALE !!!!
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 08:12 PM
Are the starting formations out yet?
It's just 20 minutes to go before kick-off
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 08:12 PM
MILAN: Kalac; Oddo, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Gourcuff; Seedorf; Pato, Gilardino.
LAZIO: Ballotta; De Silvestri, Siviglia, Cribari, Radu; Behrami, Ledesma, Dabo; Pandev; Rocchi, Bianchi
finally yoann starting
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 08:14 PM
Gourcuff is starting.
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 08:16 PM
Gourcuff is starting.hopefully he will play gud to
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 08:20 PM
LAZIO: Ballotta; De Silvestri, Siviglia, Cribari, Radu; Behrami, Ledesma, Dabo; Pandev; Rocchi, Bianchi
finally yoann starting
CARLO SEES THE LIGHT!!!
Finally Yoann starting.
And I'm glad he chose Emerson ahead of Ambro to start in the middle, he has been one of the most impresive performers in the team, and probably the only decent replacement we have to Pirlo, obviously they're not the same, but he has a much better range of passing then both Ambro and Rino combined
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 08:23 PM
Gouriiiiii
FORZA MILAN 8 mins to go!
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 08:28 PM
I got the formation right
Forza Milan!
Forza Gourcuff!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:32 PM
We need to b!tch slap these fascists back to Rome. Forza Milan!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:37 PM
I forgot Lazio had loaned Bianchi
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 08:37 PM
C'mon ragazzi, let's get a win.
(Thankfully the clueful commentators are doing this game!)
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 08:39 PM
Nice hair from Pato
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah i noticed that too, it looks like a mowhikan, but the quality of my stream is so poor i cant really tell
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 08:42 PM
Yeah it's definately a mowhawk
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 08:43 PM
There's a comedian doing text commentary for Eurosport:
"Two former Manchester City players featuring for Lazio tonight... Ousmane 'I love Joey Barton' Dabo and Rolando 'I love English food' Bianchi have both made Delio Rossi's starting line-up..."
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 08:43 PM
Lazio playing with 3 fowards in San Siro.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:45 PM
Balotta hits the ball...straight out of play
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 08:45 PM
he only used some gel , no mowhawk
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:46 PM
Nice pass by Seedorf to Gila, who flicks to Pato, whose shot is saved
Getting better
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 08:46 PM
We clearly are playing better then lazio.
pato will score , maybe even gila
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:48 PM
In other unrelated Milan news, Atletico are 2-1 up against Barca, Forca (Portugese?) A.Madrid
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 08:49 PM
Gila, Pato and Seedorf looking good.
Good to see them finally getting more comfortable with eachother
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 08:50 PM
Looks like Turtle decided to show up for this one. He's doing fairly well so far. Passing in general is much more fluid for Milan than it has been, which is a good sign.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 08:50 PM
Why Portuguese? In Portuguese it's "Força".
Anyway, Avanti Milan!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 08:51 PM
Anyway, Avanti Milan!
I thought Força was spanish, but clearly it isnt. I did suspect it was Portugese
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 08:54 PM
wow... our crosses just get sh1ter and sh1ter
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 08:55 PM
Pato down
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 08:55 PM
(Atletico 2 - 1 Barca)
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 08:57 PM
just saw Ronaldinho's goal ... just amazing!
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 08:58 PM
And stupid director could have been showing replays of that for the next 2 hours if someone had not stopped him...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:05 PM
Pato takes a similar shot to last games but saved!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:08 PM
seedorf off , paloschi in ?
pato playmaker ?
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:08 PM
pato playmaker ?
Why is Seedorf taken off?
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 09:10 PM
WHat happened to Seedorf
Posted by: nuh Mar 1 2008, 09:10 PM
do u ppl know where i could watch this match from ? (t.v)
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:10 PM
i think a minor injury , doesnt look serious
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:11 PM
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Posted by: nuh Mar 1 2008, 09:14 PM
thnx damn cant watch it
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:18 PM
HT... no creativity at all
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 09:20 PM
i think some one has infected oddo's cosses with some dark magic or somthing they are terrible
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 09:21 PM
atleast yoann is looking good out there. hes been playing pretty good. i hope gila comes off for inzaghi later on but i think hes going to be rested for arsenal match
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:23 PM
3 - 1 Atletico
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 09:23 PM
yoann is better in this position than AM to me
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:24 PM
Our 3 strikers and Lazio's 3 striker.. creating nothing.
Very boring game.
Pato - Gila - Paloschi.. doesnt look like it'll work. Gourcuff had an okay start but hasnt done match. Oddo and Janku's crosses have been poor
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 09:24 PM
Boring, boring Milan!! So painful to watch...
Someone has to tell Oddo that a full back is supposed to run when attacking and not sit there exchanging passes with the CB's... make a 1-2 for ****s sake, do something don't just stand there!! Argghhh!!!
... so damn annoying!!
STEP UP RAGAZZIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:26 PM
No Pirlo, Kaka, or Seedorf. Someone, hopefully Pato/Gourcuff, needs to create something in the 2nd half.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 09:29 PM
Looking good??
..this match is killing me. It's so boring and unattractive..Just like I said before - Gourcuff, with or without, minor difference. But okay, he's now that Seedorf's gone the only creative spark. Btw. the first few minutes Seedorf and him looked really excellent. Seedorf started well today, it's sad he's out.
But Jankulovski and Oddo?? Both deserve a 4/10 till now. Can they cross? Jankulovski had 4 crosses - 2 were to far, 1 right at the hands of Ballotta, and 1 hit the first block. Really poor and annoying. Oddo was a bit better, but still, I'm gonna die if this will repeat at second half.
One more - Gilardino. Is he playing?????? It's over, finito, end, schluss,..I don't want to see him any more. He's just waisting our time. Move him over to Juventus. I really did defend him, but his work rate is so low, I just can't watch him without having guilty-feelings..
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:30 PM
4 - 1 Atletico
Posted by: Warchant Mar 1 2008, 09:30 PM
i dont think our strikers are to blame for this
from what i've seen..defense is playing very well, midfield...good enough...gorcouff looks much better.
the problem (which i believe has been a problem the past couple of weeks) are janku and oddo's crosses in the middle...they are absolutely terrible.
they haven't done the strikers any favors at all.
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Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 09:30 PM
4-1
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:31 PM
4-2 Eto'o now.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:31 PM
I think Yoann should switch to the middle, with Emerson and Rino play a bit behind him, something like this:
----Rino--Emerson----
-------Yoann-----------
---Palo--Gila--Pato----
We need someone in the middle that can direct the play, and Yoann is the only one on the field that can do something remotely similar to that.
Rino and Puma will be covering him so he won't have to do any defending like he is doing now.
Or maybe Pato isntead of playing as a left forward should move in the center behind the strikers, he can move the ball really quicky, I think he would do well in that spot.
And let's face it, if we are to win this tonight it will come from something out of nothing from Pato. He's the only one on that field that can produce a moment of brilliance. Hopefully he won't get injured because he needs to start against Arsenal
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:32 PM
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:34 PM
Digao on for?
Ambro on for?
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:34 PM
digao for janku
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:35 PM
ambro is on field
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 09:35 PM
Digao?? ...
... So when does the season start??
Madrid's greatest team!!
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:35 PM
pato should change his boots
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:36 PM
@dst: Robinho got in and already scored. 1-2 for Madrid.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:36 PM
Who is he on for?
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:37 PM
that's more like it... nice build up...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:37 PM
emerson
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:37 PM
We are playing with 3 men up forward :| :| :| ?
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 09:38 PM
Me and my veltins beer are in for the 2nd half (My gf granted me one half ). Hope I'll be a good talisman.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:38 PM
Bonera at LB???
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:38 PM
yellow for Rino... stupid challenge!
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 09:38 PM
So did Paloschi the other day...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:38 PM
yep
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:39 PM
Why Digao.. when did he surpass Simic, it certainly couldn't have been his perffromance against Catania
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Kalac !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Emerson out Ambro in
Janku out Digao in
WHY???
Can someone explain why????
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Cmon ragazzi!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Kalac again !!!
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
super saveS Kalac
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:40 PM
KALAC OMG.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 09:41 PM
The way this game is heading I would be content with a draw. Our lineup is scary
Posted by: m1ke Mar 1 2008, 09:41 PM
Kalac...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:41 PM
another one
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:41 PM
kalacccc !!!!!
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:41 PM
We have a completely experimental squad, and it looks shaky.... but i like it
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:42 PM
Our defence has already begun playing like sh!t when in the 1st half Lazio didn't even have a shot on goal!!!!
Why did Carlo touch the central 2?!!!!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:42 PM
goal lazio
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:42 PM
goal Lazio
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:43 PM
central defense - 7/7
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:43 PM
yellow for Ambro
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 09:44 PM
). Hope I'll be a good talisman.Nope....I wasn't
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:44 PM
You mean goal for Carlo?
He shouldn't have touched the middle 2
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:44 PM
Good ol' Milan.
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 09:45 PM
...
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 09:45 PM
That was just painful. Nice goal by Bianchi but Digao's positioning was..not good.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:45 PM
You mean good ol'Carlo?
Posted by: nuh Mar 1 2008, 09:46 PM
no no no we have to get new player look some players are out and look at us we are dead
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:46 PM
omg patoooooo almost , great play by gourcuff !!
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:46 PM
Digao is not even a footballer ffs.
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 09:46 PM
That's because you can't consider him to be a real player....he's just there because Kaka is such a great player...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:46 PM
nice pass from Gouri... pato shot wide!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 1 2008, 09:47 PM
I guess this is why he dosent trust youth.
Why was Digao played ahed of Simic anyway?
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:47 PM
lovely skills from Pato
Posted by: nuh Mar 1 2008, 09:48 PM
maybe cuz it was part of kaka's new deal for him to play more
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:49 PM
our first corner!
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 09:51 PM
this team makes no sense the worst decision carlo ever made i would say
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 09:51 PM
BA
... on the stands
Posted by: maldini03 Mar 1 2008, 09:52 PM
How are we loosing this is disappointing
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 09:52 PM
Pato - the only player who actually seems interested.
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:53 PM
penalty !!!!!!!!!
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:53 PM
very sad
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 09:53 PM
penelty
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:53 PM
Penaltyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 09:54 PM
Gourcuff is trying to do something as well....it's just hard to recognize
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:54 PM
oddo to take...
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:54 PM
Clear foal on kaladze ... Oddo gonna take it .....
GOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:54 PM
GOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 09:55 PM
cMON MILAN !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:55 PM
Oddo never misses from the spot!!!!
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 09:55 PM
how ironic Oddo scoring against former team
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 09:55 PM
yeah, kaladze and oddo our main strikers
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 09:56 PM
Yay for Oddo! He's a good penalty taker - if only his crosses were all so good. C'mon guys, let's keep going!
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 09:57 PM
Perfect penalty. Now we might be able to collect another 3 points.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 09:57 PM
Let's hope we don't give up now and settle for the draw like we've dopne in the past
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 10:00 PM
poor passes by Gouri
Posted by: Locke Lamora Mar 1 2008, 10:00 PM
WTF, 1-1???
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:00 PM
we have to train gourcuff more for pirlo's position, he doesnt have a good replacement...and he has the creativity, just lack of confidence i think...
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:00 PM
yoann is playing terrible
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 10:01 PM
We want GOALS !
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 10:05 PM
Go MILAN Go
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 10:05 PM
How is Yoann the new Zidane? he doesnt even have half the vision and intelligence on field of the materazzi's Assassin.
Yoann just runs around like a headless chicken.
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:05 PM
behrami made 789621759813276 fouls today...has he got a yellow already, wtf?! if u make so many fouls you have to get booked, it's not just how hard fouls are...
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:05 PM
what a chance for ambro ...
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:08 PM
I really feel for bonera why are we doing this to him LB now
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 10:09 PM
eurosport:
Ouch! Rocchi leaves his trailing leg right in Ambrosini's balls! That's got to hurt...
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:09 PM
and there's another foul...
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 10:10 PM
They substitute players for more fouls !!!!!!
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 10:10 PM
Yoann just runs around like a headless chicken.
He'd be glad if he had a fourth of Zizous talent (that's no Gourcuff bashing.....the only player on earth with his vision and intelligence is Andy P....no one else comes close to them). But yep...I know why Carlo prefered my buddy Clarence.
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:10 PM
Paloschi , shoot the damn balllllllll
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:10 PM
paloschi is gud he has been more than gila
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 10:11 PM
So what? I'd do the same...they want to win as well.
From that angle?
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:12 PM
true...and yet there wasn't any bad fouls today...
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 10:12 PM
Hey is gila playing?
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:12 PM
and now it was...
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:12 PM
red card you f*ckin ******* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: m1ke Mar 1 2008, 10:12 PM
They should have had 3 players sent off. Finally one goes. I hope Pato is ok...
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:13 PM
yea he is playing but does not seem to
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 10:13 PM
Pato magic Silvestri Off
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 10:13 PM
not sure!
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 10:14 PM
Hey hey, I thought you guys could feel the sarcasm in my question about Gila
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:14 PM
he is on the pitch....i think
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 10:15 PM
From that angle?
It's not Milan JOB to do Fouls for win !
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:15 PM
gila had the touch...but straight to lazio defender...
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 10:15 PM
i thought you would feel the sarcasm in mine too he seems to be wearing some kinds of green camouflage
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:16 PM
Pato is simply amazing !
great shot by gourcuff , and he's injured ...
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:17 PM
why would you shoot from 33m, having 6 of your players in front of you...
Posted by: armisse Mar 1 2008, 10:18 PM
Milan please More PRESSURE
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 10:18 PM
i thought you would feel the sarcasm in mine too he seems to be wearing some kinds of green camouflage
Maybe he wants to copy Pippos style
Pato...WOW! But then...one Pato doesn't make the spring come.
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:20 PM
gila has yet again done nothing he should go better for him and the club
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:22 PM
nice header by gila
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2008, 10:22 PM
Gourcuff puts the ball out side the mark for corners
edit: and the ref seems to agree 
FT
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:22 PM
over 1-1
we played better
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:23 PM
pato was great...but yeah, gila can't play for us...you see how he get outlighted by juniors...bring willy from primavera insted of him
Posted by: HasanHasanly Mar 1 2008, 10:24 PM
Pato Paloschi
Kaka
Seedorf Pirlo Gattusso
We should play this in the future.
P.S.
Cant wait for the transfer window to open again, so we can ship Gila off ina gift wrap.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 10:24 PM
If Fiorentina win tomorrow we are scr3wed big time
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:24 PM
very best of the best
Posted by: maldini03 Mar 1 2008, 10:24 PM
this is gunna be tough to say but i hope we get knocked out of Champions it will be a wake up call to our management and we will finally see the good players back in the Serie A
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:26 PM
yeah if we dont get to champions league, then you wont see good players
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 10:27 PM
FT. 1-1
I dunno if it's better to stay in CL or just to concentrate on Serie A. Our squad is so poor that's even painful to watch a match without Kaka' or Pirlo.
Posted by: Portikins Mar 1 2008, 10:27 PM
*coff* Bayern Munchen *coff* *coff*
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 10:27 PM
Don't give Galliani any ideas
If Gila goes then he better be replaced by a class striker that can gaurantee us a certain amount of goals every season. (Drogba/Huntelaar/Benzema) those are the only guys I would want if we were to sell Gila. We can't keep this sh!t up, we barely have a team anymore!!! And it was pretty ingenius of Carlo to bring on Digao
if he hadn't messed around with the back 4 we would have won. Because Lazio didn't even have a single shot on goal before the break.
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:28 PM
quick note , i was amazed by gourcuff's effort , made some wrong passes but also provides some great ones . Hopes he keeps improving !
About Gila , well ... Im not even gonna waste my time .
Thank god we have Pato , what a talent !!
Forza Milan !! Now lets beat the crap out of Arsenal
Posted by: fahad Mar 1 2008, 10:29 PM
If Gila goes then he better be replaced by a class striker that can gaurantee us a certain amount of goals every season. (Drogba/Huntelaar/Benzema) those are the only guys I would want if we were to sell Gila. We can't keep this sh!t up, we barely have a team anymore!!! And it was pretty ingenius of Carlo to bring on Digao
if he hadn't messed around with the back 4 we would have won. Because Lazio didn't even have a single shot on goal before the break.who is seeling gila we are sending him as a gift
Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 1 2008, 10:29 PM
If Gila goes then he better be replaced by a class striker that can gaurantee us a certain amount of goals every season. (Drogba/Huntelaar/Benzema) those are the only guys I would want if we were to sell Gila. We can't keep this sh!t up, we barely have a team anymore!!! And it was pretty ingenius of Carlo to bring on Digao
if he hadn't messed around with the back 4 we would have won. Because Lazio didn't even have a single shot on goal before the break.yeah i was thinking until the end of these season...
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 10:30 PM
He was being pushed as he tried to go for the header.
I'm not defending him, because he had a poor one today. But he couldn't do anything on that header, he and Ambro got in eachother's way by going for it together and he was being puched as he jumped, so it's not his fault that he didn't make good contact
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 10:30 PM
Pato and Kalac... an 18 year old and the 2nd goalkeeper are keeping Milan alive. We are so fine as we are!!
It was so ****ing amazing when everyone applauded Pato. And it was not because he made a dribble or because scored a goal. He actually failed in his attempt to get past his man. They applauded him for trying. For getting hit time and time again and still getting up to do something. For not leaving his balls at home. For stepping up for the team. For not being a zombie like the rest of them.
They should be ashamed for themselves. Go home and realize which team you are playing for!!
Thanks Ale!!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 10:30 PM
If Gila goes then he better be replaced by a class striker that can gaurantee us a certain amount of goals every season. (Drogba/Huntelaar/Benzema) those are the only guys I would want if we were to sell Gila. We can't keep this sh!t up, we barely have a team anymore!!! And it was pretty ingenius of Carlo to bring on Digao
if he hadn't messed around with the back 4 we would have won. Because Lazio didn't even have a single shot on goal before the break.You cant know that.
Plus if we didnt wasted some chances we would have won too. Digao didnt played that bad to me .
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:31 PM
Gourcuff puts the ball out side the mark for cornersedit: and the ref seems to agree
1) Gouri played a very good match. It's a position from which he now can be considered as a good alternative. He made the difference - +1 for Gouri
But this corner stealing is really stupid? He's not at Rennes anymore, he's im Milan. He's gotta learn to steal like a professional, or better just stop.
2) Janku and Emerson!? Injuried or?? Emerson played okay, why was he subbed?
Janku? Very bad crossing, bad match. -1 for Janku
3) Gilardino. Really...he makes us suffer. The guy is..
Ratings:
Kalac -6.5
Bonera -6(FH), 0.5(SH)
Kaladze -6.5
Oddo -0.5
Jankulovski -0
Gattuso -0
Emerson -0.5
Gourcuff -6.5
Seedorf -0
Gilardino - did not play
Pato -6.5
subs: Digao -0, Ambrosini -0, Paloschi -0
Ancelotti -0
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 10:33 PM
What really irritates the cr@p out of me is the fact that we've p!ssed Serie A games off at will before CL ties, and not even acknowledging the fact that Arsenal could knock us out and we might not even make 4th spot because we saw it fit to p!ss games away for something that can easily be lost because of a bad night like a cup competition.
If we don't even make 4th this season then we only have ourselves to blame, especially if we get knocked out on Tuesday
Posted by: Darunia Mar 1 2008, 10:34 PM
Kalac was amazing... he's been saving us this season.
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 10:36 PM
About Gourcuff. He proved he is very good defensively and can only get better in attack. He made a lot of bad passes today but he also had some very good moments. Not positive and not negative attacking-wise but this was a good display overall. I think he should play in Pirlo's position, he's better in organizing the play from the back and is also good in tackling. Never going to be a great '10'/trequartista, he does not have what it takes.
Stealing? What is he stealing? It's not like earns anything by doing this.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:37 PM
Different situation:
Bayern could offer to Ribery,Ze,Toni&Co. the Bundesliga title in their first season in advance. Can we do that?
Also, the Bayern board realized their mess very early last season, they woke up and did some efficient moves -- sacked Magath, appointed Hitzfeld, cleard out space for the new attackers and announced big transfers to come very early, in April. I don't see any of this things happen to us soon. And the Bayern example is really a good one - just like a break-up kit&first aid.
Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2008, 10:37 PM
It was so ****ing amazing when everyone applauded Pato. And it was not because he made a dribble or because scored a goal. He actually failed in his attempt to get past his man. They applauded him for trying. For getting hit time and time again and still getting up to do something. For not leaving his balls at home. For stepping up for the team. For not being a zombie like the rest of them.
They should be ashamed for themselves. Go home and realize which team you are playing for!!
Thanks Ale!!
100% agreed
Plus if we didnt wasted some chances we would have won too. Digao didnt played that bad to me .
He was at fault for the goal, his positioning was awful. And as soon as Carlo touched that back 4 Lazio started making chances, and imo, they had just as much chances to win it as us in the second half.
If Carlo wanted to rest Janku he should have put Favalli on in his place and not messed with the center backs in the middle of a game. Kala and Bonera were doing great together, I can't understand what possessed him to make that sub in such a crucial game
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 10:38 PM
I don't LIKE GILA at all..Sell him maine..Can't Gulliani see?...I don't know if people have to speak sense his brains..We need players Gulliani and Ancelotti..Gila didn't play in that match..It at least takes more than to score..at least show some kind of contribution..I'm fucking hating the managements right now..Paloschi's is still very young..He made one or two contributions..that's all..Paloschi's compare to pato are two different players..We need players MILAN..We need players MILAN!!!
I couldn't believe that Oddo could score a penalty. I wouldn't lie, i was scared that he'll miss it.He's crosses are wack..I don't think he can see at all..
Gourcuff played good..but he still needs to grow..Only Brazilians and Italians are filled in Milan..Gila is one of the worst strikers today..He's ball control on d ground is 0..We need help!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:39 PM
He's stealing centimeters. Exactly, he's not getting anything from that except that he's breaking the rules and makes unneccesary complications. Last time I saw something like this, I watched the African Nations Cup.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:41 PM
I'd swap Galliani for Guliani in a minute...
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 10:42 PM
Ma bad..I meant Galliani or watever his name is..I think because he is old, the old mentality is overtaking his life!!
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 10:46 PM
^^ ya same to me, when i saw Oddo standing behind that ball. My heart beat went from 100000 per minute to 1
Posted by: LaPalma Mar 1 2008, 10:46 PM
Bayern could offer to Ribery,Ze,Toni&Co. the Bundesliga title in their first season in advance. Can we do that?
Also, the Bayern board realized their mess very early last season, they woke up and did some efficient moves -- sacked Magath, appointed Hitzfeld, cleard out space for the new attackers and announced big transfers to come very early, in April. I don't see any of this things happen to us soon. And the Bayern example is really a good one - just like a break-up kit&first aid.
Sacking Magath wasn't a wise decision IMO. Ottmar didn't do much better than he did. Bayern have almost bought a new team. This won't happen here IMO. Bayern was always machiavellian about their players (with very few exceptions like Oli Kahn or Mehmet Scholl). If they weren't good enough any more...sell them! This even happened to stars like Elber, Makaay and Effenberg although the fans loved them (and this strategy is part of their success IMO). Can't see this happening @ Milan.
Gourcuff...wasn't too impressed by him. But in this current situation even the most experienced player would have problems to make an impact.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:48 PM
Another question goes in my head right now - when did Digao surpass Simic? It seems like they really want Dario to leave and loose his spot in the NT.
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 10:50 PM
Why did AC MILAN buy Digao? I think he sucks
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 10:52 PM
Kalac -6.5
Bonera -6(FH), 0.5(SH)
Kaladze -6.5
Oddo -0.5
Jankulovski -0
Gattuso -0
Emerson -0.5
Gourcuff -6.5
Seedorf -0
Gilardino - did not play
Pato -6.5
subs: Digao -0, Ambrosini -0, Paloschi -0
Ancelotti -0
What the ****?!?!
He deserved a 10
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:52 PM
He's Kaka's brother, it was a contract addition. But till now he never had to play.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 10:54 PM
He deserved a 10
Ok, maybe a 7, but he did conceed and I give only 7.5 or 8 to keepers with a clean sheet.
But yes, we know that Sopranac is doing well,..
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 10:58 PM
Ratings:
Kalac: 8
Oddo:6
Bonera:6.5
Digao:4
Kaladze: 7
Jankulovski:5.5
Gattuso:6
Gourcuff:7
Seedorf(for his few mins):6
Ambrosini: 6
Gilardino: 3
Paloschi:5.5
Pato:8
We should have won this match..There was no real playmaker and that cost us, we need a good replacement for Pirlo, at least when he's not playing..We need like Riquelme
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 10:58 PM
Is this a racist comment?? Just kidding...
It's really bothering me this one. Simic is a good player. Undoubtedly a handful of levels above Digao. And the treatment he gets from a club that's known for their excellent relationship with it's players, is disgusting to say the least! I don't get it... maybe it's a rule in Kaka's new contract that his brother has to play in some games??
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 10:59 PM
He should never have to play..He sucks big time..There are a lot of better players out there even in the premiership..
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 11:00 PM
Not this is a "racist" belief. Why is a keeper only worthy of a 8 maximum?? I hate it how defensive players are underrated!
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 11:07 PM
Seedorf's was not something serious, was it? I think him coming off was only a precaution...
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 11:08 PM
Yea he was trying not to risk it so he could play in the ARSENAL Clash..So he wasn't risking it!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 11:08 PM
Waait...
Buffon, Casillas and some other guys go till 10
Dida, Curci, Van der Sar, etc. till 9
But Kalac's maximum is 8.5. Belive me, he's partly Croatian, I know what I'm talking about.
Yes,...but now that Nesta and Maldini are rested, why didn't Carlo at least try put Kaladze on left and Simic-Digao, or Simic-Bonera in center? I mean even with Digao, Simic still should have been selected for this match.
Posted by: jefri91 Mar 1 2008, 11:14 PM
Poor Ba, hasnt played a single game
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 11:20 PM
How many bookings did Pato gift to Lazio? It was two yellows and a red I think...
You know my opinion on this matter...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 1 2008, 11:20 PM
Gilardino was just... and I believe there were two supporting strikers around him. but he was just ' '. we must sell him this summer. he just can't fit in in Milan. end of story.
Pato was undoubtedly our best player [along with Kalac of course]. his technique is truly fantastic. shame he couldn't win us three points...
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 11:24 PM
and I believe there were two supporting strikers around him. but he was just ' '. we must sell him this summer. he just can't fit in in Milan. end of story.Pato was undoubtedly our best player [along with Kalac of course]. his technique is truly fantastic. shame he couldn't win us three points...
Thank you..I think since when he arrived in milan, we've been bad in Serie A..Maybe if we sell him, we'll be good again..
If Gilardino played against us, i don't think he'll touch the ball..
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 11:26 PM
Actually I just have the opposit feeling. But we agree, he has to go till he's worth somthing. Cause soon he'll be worth...nothing.
Posted by: dst Mar 1 2008, 11:26 PM
Saturday 1 March, 2008
Carlo Ancelotti admits Milan aren’t at their best right now and Clarence Seedorf is out of action against Arsenal.
“I am only worried by the fact we are going into a match with a very strong team in what is not our best form,†said the Coach after their 1-1 draw with Lazio.
It was a second consecutive Serie A stalemate after the midweek 1-1 at Catania and Massimo Oddo’s penalty was needed to fight back from a Rolando Bianchi opener.
The first half performance in particular was very poor and the tempo was kept sluggishly slow.
“I have to say, though, that I don’t see teams in Italy and Europe who are much sharper than we are at the moment.†{{WHAT?? DEFINE 'MUCH'...
}}During this evening’s encounter Seedorf went off with a thigh problem in the first half and Ancelotti confirmed the Dutchman would not be available for Tuesday’s encounter with Arsenal.
Meanwhile, Lazio President Claudio Lotito – still the only member of the club who will speak to the media – complained that the penalty incident was unfair.
“I saw that at least four Milan corner kicks should have been retaken because the ball was outside the line and that includes the one that led to Oddo’s equaliser.
“We deserved to win, especially considering all the chances we had at the start of the second half. Milan only avoided defeat thanks to Zeljko Kalac’s great saves. He was decisive.â€
I'm not so sure Seedorf is out. But I don't think he will be a big miss... he's not in a good condition right now.
As for the penalty... it was clear!
I only wish it was that simple...
Posted by: gal_kenny Mar 1 2008, 11:33 PM
It ain't that Simple but puttin confidence in a person for more than 2 years is just too much. At least the confidence Carlo is putting in Gourcuff is good cuz GOURCUFF is trying at least but Gila is just getting worse!!
Posted by: Nova Mar 1 2008, 11:37 PM
Highlights are uploaded !
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 1 2008, 11:39 PM
I sometimes wonder whether he watches the games.
He just seems to come out saying how great we are, even if we just don't look like we're ever going to score. He isnt a great manager at all.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2008, 11:43 PM
Depends.
If we are going to field out Gouri and Kaka + Pirlo and Gattuso, yes.
But if it's gonna be something near the "triangulo della morte" - read Emerson-Ambro-Gattuso, it's very very bad. And Gouri starting against Arsenal..seems just very unlike.
Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 11:56 PM
Catching up a bit on the conversation. Re: Simic - he apparently pulled up with some sort of thigh injury yesterday or he'd almost certainly have played.
I'd also like to put in a word for Kaladze and Bonera. Kaladze was fairly good today - at least there were no Kaladzities - and Bonera was solid in the centre and did the best he could when he was moved over to the left. It's not his position and that much is clear to everyone, but I think he's at least been putting in effort. He was one cheap buy last year that's turned out to be a damn good investment.
EDIT: Janku and Emerson pulled up with injuries at the half, apparently. That's why they were substituted. In the interviews on acmilan.com's italian page, they don't seem to be sure whether or not Seedorf will be able to play against Arsenal. They DO seem sure that Kaka, Nesta, and Pirlo will be available.
Posted by: Darunia Mar 2 2008, 12:34 AM
What was up with Gourcuff's CKs outside the line? It was just stupid, it's not that big of a difference but now Lotito is complaining about it. I can't believe Seedorf got injured, he should've been rested for this one IMO cuz he had bunch of injury issues. Now we're going to play two strikers for arsenal?
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 2 2008, 12:44 AM
Likely. I hope Pippo-Pato.
But yes, it was very stupid and not neccesary at all. We scored from a penalty, made on Kaladze in a action after a corner kick. So...it just gives Lotito space to complain. Very stupid.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 2 2008, 04:29 AM
it's funny how the only talk is about how poor gilardino is because i dont exactly see anyone else standing out. this team is so pathetic it's unbearable. actually they remind me a lot of the inter of 2 seasons ago that like drew half their games
Posted by: RED&BLACK Milan Mar 2 2008, 04:52 AM
I agree, especially the fact gilardino nevers gets quality service from the midfield...it showed when you have no decent sub for kaka and pirlo
Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 2 2008, 04:57 AM
But yes, it was very stupid and not neccesary at all. We scored from a penalty, made on Kaladze in a action after a corner kick. So...it just gives Lotito space to complain. Very stupid.
no but seriously guys... galliani and carlo would be using the same excuse if that happened to us.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 2 2008, 05:02 AM
He just seems to come out saying how great we are, even if we just don't look like we're ever going to score. He isnt a great manager at all.
according to him we should have a perfect record up to date, either we are unlucky, refs are against us or the opposition's GKer was amazing. seriously if the coach always tells us were doing great why should i care about improving? great way to motivate an already mega motivated team
Posted by: Tennie Mar 2 2008, 05:04 AM
I would imagine there's a difference between what's said to the press and what's said in the dressing room. These guys aren't blind and stupid. They know there are some serious problems.
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