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Dec 15 2019, 04:56 PM
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2 lost points
If we are hemming a hawing with Ibra about his contract, this game should be enough of a reality check for the management. We absolutely need someone with his confidence in the final third
So many lost chances
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Dec 16 2019, 04:07 PM
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Anyway, about yesterday's game: I thought we played good, created a lot, but it's obvious we're missing that little spark upfront that makes the difference. After all, at a certain point we were playing with 4 advanced mids (Bona, Paquetà , Hana, Suso) and just one striker, who is pure crap (Piatek). Leao did more in 15 minutes after he came in than Piatek in all the match.
Point is, we need Ibra, and I'd argue even a left winger. I've been saying this for nearly two years now. We need a good LW really badly, yet this moronic management does nothing to address the issue. How can you expect to play 4-3-3 with Hakan as LW? FFS!
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Dec 16 2019, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 16 2019, 06:07 PM) Anyway, about yesterday's game: I thought we played good, created a lot, but it's obvious we're missing that little spark upfront that makes the difference. After all, at a certain point we were playing with 4 advanced mids (Bona, Paquetà , Hana, Suso) and just one striker, who is pure crap (Piatek). Leao did more in 15 minutes after he came in than Piatek in all the match.
Point is, we need Ibra, and I'd argue even a left winger. I've been saying this for nearly two years now. We need a good LW really badly, yet this moronic management does nothing to address the issue. How can you expect to play 4-3-3 with Hakan as LW? FFS! Agreed. We played good football. Piatek is a major problem, he just isn't as vital as last year. Something isn't clicking with him. Leo...the potential behind this player is immense! But, he seems to be just always just close to scoring. I agree that we need to get Ibra and someone else on the wing. I thought Hakan did okay yesterday, but it is clearly not his role.
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Dec 16 2019, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 16 2019, 06:03 PM) Agreed. We played good football. Piatek is a major problem, he just isn't as vital as last year. Something isn't clicking with him. Leo...the potential behind this player is immense! But, he seems to be just always just close to scoring.
I agree that we need to get Ibra and someone else on the wing. I thought Hakan did okay yesterday, but it is clearly not his role. Piatek had 4 great months at Genoa last season, but granted, it was Genoa. Caputo was awesome for Empoli in the past two years, scoring 42 goals in 79 league games. Yet I don't think anyone of you would be willing for us to sign him. Cos, indeed, it was Empoli. After we signed him, Piatek played some, what, 10 good games? But then he stopped scoring and was sh*t in everything. And he continues being sh*t. He's just a class B player who's struggling in an already struggling team. But whereas other players seem to have good moments now and then and some are even improving, Piatek just continues being sh*t. He's no striker to rely on and build our future upon.
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Dec 17 2019, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 16 2019, 06:12 PM) Piatek had 4 great months at Genoa last season, but granted, it was Genoa. Caputo was awesome for Empoli in the past two years, scoring 42 goals in 79 league games. Yet I don't think anyone of you would be willing for us to sign him. Cos, indeed, it was Empoli.
After we signed him, Piatek played some, what, 10 good games? But then he stopped scoring and was sh*t in everything. And he continues being sh*t. He's just a class B player who's struggling in an already struggling team. But whereas other players seem to have good moments now and then and some are even improving, Piatek just continues being sh*t. He's no striker to rely on and build our future upon. I've not watched half of the Milan I used to, so I won't argue your point on Piatek's current form, but you really don't go from being as good as he was for both Genoa and initially us to absolutely horrible if there isn't something else at play. I really do feel like the Milan rot is contagious, and before long Theo and Leo will be playing rotten and the disease will have grabbed them too. As for your Caputo point, well, Sassuolo snapped him up and he's continued his form. That said, he did it for a truly horrific Empoli - does that not prove that he rose above his environment to still perform?
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Dec 17 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 17 2019, 08:19 PM) I've not watched half of the Milan I used to, so I won't argue your point on Piatek's current form, but you really don't go from being as good as he was for both Genoa and initially us to absolutely horrible if there isn't something else at play.
I really do feel like the Milan rot is contagious, and before long Theo and Leo will be playing rotten and the disease will have grabbed them too.
As for your Caputo point, well, Sassuolo snapped him up and he's continued his form. That said, he did it for a truly horrific Empoli - does that not prove that he rose above his environment to still perform? It's different when you play for a small side. The pressure is not the same, and games are played differently. Empoli v SPAL is not the same as Milan v SPAL. Yet nevertheless, even at his best, I always had my doubts about Piatek. He has good movements without the ball and is a fighter. Can't take away that from him. However, it's when he has the ball at his feet that he truly shows his limits. The guy simply does not have the technique, even for a poacher. Guys like Vieri or Inzaghi were pretty mediocre dribblers, but they possessed the wits, agility and/or physical strength to overcome their limits. But Piatek is sluggish, unintelligent and egotistical. He loses the ball too often and is everything but lethal in front of the goal. He's not even good at playing off his teammates, so his overall contribution to our game is zero. No wonder we can't score to save our lives.
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Dec 18 2019, 11:43 PM
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I think your doubts are more a need to be 'right' about him.
Look at his career record - for all your arguments that he's clumsy on the ball and isn't a poacher, the stats tell a different story:
5 in 10 for Poland, and his worst for club since breaking through as a 19 year old was 6 in 33 in Poland. Since then it's only got better and better.
11 in 27, 21 in 36, 13 in 19, 9 in 18.
What this guy is is a pure goalscorer, whether you like his Bambi on Ice composure or not.
Remember, he IS only 24, and at his age doing extraordinarily outside his homeland.
If our team as a whole were playing better, like they were early this year under Rino, he'd be doing better, like he did earlier this year under Rino.
Strikers, more than any other part of the team, thrive on the team doing well particularly at a club with the pressure of Milan. Sheva would have struggled with this team.
I do like the guy, kinda like you guys (some of you anyway) had a hardon for Silva despite how rotten he was. I was the only one who opposed that transfer and I was right.
So I hope you're wrong about Piatek but I'll hold my hands up if we as a team improve and he doesn't.
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Dec 19 2019, 01:19 PM
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The problem here is you're telling him off for not scoring, which is a stat, then saying stats don't matter.
For example, you've been berating him for not scoring, yet bigging up Jack.
And yet v Sassuolo Jack had 6 shots, 2 of which were on target. None of which went in.
Piatek had 3 shots, one which went on target. None went in.
Suso had 2 shots, one which went on target. None went in.
Leo came on, missed twice.
Paqueta came on, missed twice, got one on target.
14 shots, 5 on target. From everyone.
But Piatek is the baddie here?
Seems a little biased against one man.
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Dec 19 2019, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 19 2019, 01:19 PM) The problem here is you're telling him off for not scoring, which is a stat, then saying stats don't matter. I think I made a case earlier of why I think he's rubbish. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Dec 17 2019, 09:58 PM) However, it's when he has the ball at his feet that he truly shows his limits. The guy simply does not have the technique, even for a poacher. Guys like Vieri or Inzaghi were pretty mediocre dribblers, but they possessed the wits, agility and/or physical strength to overcome their limits.
But Piatek is sluggish, unintelligent and egotistical. He loses the ball too often and is everything but lethal in front of the goal. He's not even good at playing off his teammates, so his overall contribution to our game is zero. No wonder we can't score to save our lives. My whole point in this argument is to point out that Piatek is a bad player. Obviously for a striker that is equivalent to not scoring. There are no good strikers that don't score.
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