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Posted by: Portikins Jun 18 2007, 06:44 PM

All the Champions League talk here!

Posted by: dst Jun 18 2007, 06:49 PM

Can Milan become the first the team to win the Champions League two times in a row? Only with the right additions we could... but it's a weird trip... we'll see.

I would expect Chelsea to give everything to win it. They should be the most motivated team out of all!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 18 2007, 07:16 PM

Well no doubt after the disgrace of this season, the English teams will all be very motivated...

Chelsea..of course, then there's always Man U chasing the dream that was 1999. The Scousers are looking at the League Title this time I think.

I also think Inter will go all out. I read it behind the decision of Figo to stay on. To the extent Inter might even compromise on Serie A. Milan's victory this season has just been too much for them to take.

In Spain. If Capello stays, I bank on a Real assault on CL and by relation the transfer market. Otherwise they'll look to mostly defend the title. Barca will of course look to regain lost pride, but I think their downward spiral has become. Now above all Barca needs a no-sh!t manager like Capello.

In Germany, I guess the clubs will all look to acquit themselves well in Europe, but barring Bremen, I see no one make a concerted push.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 18 2007, 08:13 PM

IMO Real is the most motivated team. They're fans want to see them on top of Europe again. They'll do everything to win it.
I feel like Chelsea is a bit depressed after this years failure. But...you never know.
I don't see Inter as serious contenders for the title with their current squad. With Figo 3 or 4 years younger...yes. But IMO they lack the creative abilities in midfield.
German teams...well, I think Stuttgart can surprise everyone. They've got some awesome youngster like Gomez, Hilbert, Tasci and some more. Maybe it's enough for the quarterfinal. Bremen, can make it to the last 16 IMO. Frings, Diego, Mertesacker, Borowski and Naldo are class. IMO the best team in Germany...even better than the new Bayern squad.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2007, 06:16 PM)
Well no doubt after the disgrace of this season, the English teams will all be very motivated...
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I wouldn't exactly call it a disgrace to reach the semi finals. Would you call our campaign last season (05/06) a disgrace? I certainly wouldn't.

I think there's only 1 from 6 that can win it next season:
Milan
Liverpool
United
Chelsea
Inter
Real Madrid

Depending on the draw of course, I fully expect 2 English teams in the semi-finals. Whether one will win it who knows.

Posted by: misha Jun 18 2007, 08:57 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 10:54 PM)
I wouldn't exactly call it a disgrace to reach the semi finals. Would you call our campaign last season (05/06) a disgrace? I certainly wouldn't.

I think there's only 1 from 6 that can win it next season:
Milan
Liverpool
United
Chelsea
Inter
Real Madrid

Depending on the draw of course, I fully expect 2 English teams in the semi-finals. Whether one will win it who knows.
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Replace Inter with Barca smile.gif

Posted by: Locke Lamora Jun 18 2007, 09:11 PM

Aren't you guys forgetting someone here? rolleyes.gif

Seriously, if Henry stays and Wenger bring on a good player, I think Arsenal stand a chance next year. We were within 15 minutes of doing it in Paris, and with a bit more luck...who knows?
As for Milan, my heart says yes and my head says no. If Arsenal come to face Milan in the final...WTF am I gonna do? sad.gif

Posted by: Tennie Jun 18 2007, 09:17 PM

It's far too early to tell what sort of form the various teams are going to have next year and so I hestitate to make any guesses. But...

I'd like to see someone from outside the standard group of countries do well - ie, not from England, Spain, or Italy.

I'd be thrilled to see Stuttgart surprise people and make it fairly far into the tournament (and to think I picked them as my 'Bundesliga team to follow' because I thought their jerseys were pretty).

Maybe a Portuguese team? It'd be nice to see Benfica do well, but they'd be dark horses. So, sadly, would Lyon. I like watching 'em play, but they're terrible chokers when it comes to tournaments.

So right now, if I had to say who I wanted to win the CL next year, my response would be 'Anyone But Inter'.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 18 2007, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 18 2007, 08:11 PM)
Aren't you guys forgetting someone here? rolleyes.gif

Seriously, if Henry stays and Wenger bring on a good player, I think Arsenal stand a chance next year. We were within 15 minutes of doing it in Paris, and with a bit more luck...who knows?
As for Milan, my heart says yes and my head says no. If Arsenal come to face Milan in the final...WTF am I gonna do? sad.gif
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You need too many players to contend. I know you got to the Final a few years back, but you've lost half of that team. Henry, Pires, Campbell, Cole, Bergkamp. All very important players to you, I think you need at least 4 or 5 top players to compete in either the CL or the EPL.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 19 2007, 12:20 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 11:25 PM)
You need too many players to contend. I know you got to the Final a few years back, but you've lost half of that team. Henry, Pires, Campbell, Cole, Bergkamp. All very important players to you, I think you need at least 4 or 5 top players to compete in either the CL or the EPL.
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All these players are (with the addition of Gilberto..) the only experienced players Arsenal has. To reach (at least) the semi's, you need experience .. It is a lost dream if anyone thinks a young team can make the distance. Cuz it is experience that counts in the crucial moments king.gif

If there is a team (otehr than Milan..) that is gonna win the CL next year, it would be either Chelsea or Barca .. I have a strong feeling that it will be either of those three cool.gif

Posted by: amancik Jun 19 2007, 11:09 AM

I'm gonna say Milan, cuz by September you will see a dream-team line-up

Posted by: amancik Jun 19 2007, 11:11 AM

When will the teams be seeded?
I can't wait to see the group stage draw

Posted by: arivanjj Jun 19 2007, 12:00 PM

the draw for the group-stage is in 10 days if i'm not mistaken...

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 19 2007, 12:18 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 19 2007, 12:00 PM)
the draw for the group-stage is in 10 days if i'm not mistaken...
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Sorry, but that's impossible right now, coz we don't even know which teams are going to be in the CL next year....remember that qualifying round Milan went through this season rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Portikins Jun 19 2007, 12:20 PM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 19 2007, 12:00 PM)
the draw for the group-stage is in 10 days if i'm not mistaken...
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End of August.

As we're not going to have 3rd-pre, we just have to wait and see.

Posted by: amancik Jun 19 2007, 03:05 PM

owh yah, I forgot about that
preliminary rounds ...

Posted by: aLbErTo Jun 19 2007, 04:00 PM

maybe in 10 days there will be draw for the 1st and 2nd preliminary stage...

Posted by: dst Jun 23 2007, 06:16 PM

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The Champions League and European qualifying for the 2010 World Cup undergo changes, announce UEFA.

From 2007-08 the Champions League will also have a seeding system in the draw for the quarter-finals.

This is to prevent teams who are already qualified from resting their players in the final one or two Group games, as that will affect their standing.

Clubs will receive two points for a win and one for a draw in the seeding system drawn up at the end of the first knock-out round.


channel4

Posted by: Locke Lamora Jun 25 2007, 10:24 AM

Fixing what ain't broken...why the hell are they doing this?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 25 2007, 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Jun 25 2007, 09:24 AM)
Fixing what ain't broken...why the hell are they doing this?
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To protect the big names. wink.gif

Do you think UEFA were happy with the Porto vs Monaco final? Not at all.

They're basically trying to fix it to make it almost impossible for sides like that to get through. By seeding it, they keep all the top sides apart, ensuring that they get the easiest possible routes to the QFs/SFs. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 25 2007, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 25 2007, 12:30 PM)
They're basically trying to fix it to make it almost impossible for sides like that to get through. By seeding it, they keep all the top sides apart, ensuring that they get the easiest possible routes to the QFs/SFs.  rolleyes.gif
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That's not entirely true. That final was one in a million... and it will happen again some time. Now by doing this, more "small" clubs will be able to get through the groups stages.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 25 2007, 11:35 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 25 2007, 10:15 AM)
That's not entirely true. That final was one in a million... and it will happen again some time. Now by doing this, more "small" clubs will be able to get through the groups stages.
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How does that work?

-The 'big' clubs will use their better players more often. - Meaning more wins.
-The 'big' clubs will win more games. - The 'small' clubs will lose more.

With the bigger teams almost being 'told' they have to put out a strong team for every game means the lesser sides stand even less chance of getting through. Now they pick up and odd win here and there because the big teams put our weakened sides. That will happen even less now.

UEFA have always done this to protect bigger teams. What happened to the good old knockout competition that was the European Cup?

-They let more than just the Champions of each league and holders enter. - So that if United, Juve and Co. didn't win the league, they could still be in it.
-Added a group stage. - If a big side lost a fluke one off game to a small team, then the small team just defended the second leg and got away with it, the bigger side would be out. Now you get 6 games, you can afford the odd loss now.

Posted by: dst Jun 25 2007, 11:55 AM

It's simple... I'll give you an example... under these rules, Milan would have fielded against Lille a proper squad and they would have to win to secure the best feed possible for the team. That means, Milan would have probably avoided that humiliating defeat inside the San Siro and Lille would have been left out of the next round, letting AEK through...

Lille>>>>AEK anyway, but similar things have happened with other teams... I remember Milan handing the last game to Real in 2003 when they would only get through with the 3 points... that was a passive game... I have no doubt it was a giveaway...

UEFA are trying to get more small team go through the groups stages... what happens after that is another issue but this means more chances for them!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 25 2007, 12:12 PM

Nine times out of ten, the group stage would go as follows.

This is an example remember.

Madrid: Played 6 - Won 6. (Beats everyone twice).
Lazio: Played 6 - Won 4. (Lose both ties to Madrid. Win the other 4 games).
Bordeaux: Played 6 - Won 2. (Beat Levski home and away, lose the other 4).
Levski Sofia: Played 6 - Won 0. (Lose all 6 games).

In theory that's what will happen if all teams were to put out their best 11 in all 6 games. Obviously some games will be drew and their may be the odd shock win.

Whereas in previous years Lazio may play a weakened side and Bordeax may snatch some points off them, opening it up for second place. That'll have less chance of happening now because Lazio will be at full strength.

Posted by: LaPalma Jun 25 2007, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 25 2007, 12:12 PM)
Nine times out of ten, the group stage would go as follows.

This is an example remember.

Madrid: Played 6 - Won 6. (Beats everyone twice).
Lazio: Played 6 - Won 4. (Lose both ties to Madrid. Win the other 4 games).
Bordeaux: Played 6 - Won 2. (Beat Levski home and away, lose the other 4).
Levski Sofia: Played 6 - Won 0. (Lose all 6 games).

In theory that's what will happen if all teams were to put out their best 11 in all 6 games. Obviously some games will be drew and their may be the odd shock win.

Whereas in previous years Lazio may play a weakened side and Bordeax may snatch some points off them, opening it up for second place. That'll have less chance of happening now because Lazio will be at full strength.
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Well....I guess if football was as predictable as you say no one would watch it wink.gif

Posted by: misha Jun 25 2007, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 25 2007, 01:55 PM)
I remember Milan handing the last game to Real in 2003 when they would only get through with the 3 points... that was a passive game... I have no doubt it was a giveaway...
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It was. Half of the first 11 that night were subs and we played loosely.

Posted by: dst Jun 26 2007, 11:30 AM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 25 2007, 05:07 PM)
Well....I guess if football was as predictable as you say no one would watch it wink.gif
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@Kurt: It's not like that most of the time, that's for sure. Check how often the big team has to be helped at the very last moment to go through!

Posted by: Costacurta Jul 8 2007, 03:40 AM

I shall begin by discounting Real. Sacking Capello was so dreadful a mistake their incompetence I have just to laugh at. I remian a fan of Capello and in a way glad to see him go from Real as they are less of a threat now.
Chelsea must be gagging to win it. Squad to small last season. Formation questionable.
Manchester Utd will make a big tilt for it. Sir Alex is hell bent on winning that cup again before retiring.
Arsenal no chance. Liverpool can't be lucky again.

Barcelona. Prob got selection issues as they won't know which attackers to play. big egos bound to grate but they have a great shot, especially consdiering good old former Milan man Mr Rijkaard understands the importnce ofdefence and has looked to acquire accordingly lately.

No Dutch or German club have got a hope in hell I'm afraid to say. Frankly this is bad for football in general. The relative demise of the likes of Ajax, PSV, Dortmund and Bayern mean that many struggle to even make it to the group stages, notably Ajax last season.
Lyon just not good enough.

And so Italy.
I know I rubbished our chances this year and we went and bleeding won it, but I don't believe we can meet the challenge of being the first team to retain it. I feel a focus on Serie A wouldn't go a miss, and that means making a good start to the season for once.
Inter, mentally not capable I don't think.

Overall, Man Utd, Chelsea or Barca.

Transfers far from over I know but thats how I think its weighing up atm.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 8 2007, 03:47 AM

I agree with almost everything you said there, there's just one thing I don't, Inter.

They have serious fire-power and if the Chivu deal goes in their favour, a decent, experienced defense.

As with Costacurta I see no none English/Spanish/Italian side getting close.

United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Milan, Inter, Valencia, Real and Barca will be the quater-finalists (Draw dependant of course). With Inter, Chelsea, United and Barca as the final four. I pick Inter to go all the way. *Prepares for a beating*

Posted by: misha Jul 8 2007, 06:26 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 8 2007, 05:47 AM)
With Inter, Chelsea, United and Barca as the final four. I pick Inter to go all the way.
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If merda wins it, that's how you know the end of the world is coming...

Posted by: Bluesummers Jul 8 2007, 06:48 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Jul 7 2007, 11:26 PM)
If merda wins it, that's how you know the end of the world is coming...
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Even though i hate to admit it, i think they're very desperate for the cup. After they won serie A they felt proud to be on top of italy. After we won cl, they go knocked down to 2nd and that reallly hurt there pride badly. I mean what is scudetto to Cl cup. Like SAF, Morrati will be hell bent on winning the cup. I just hope we can contend to semi's because this year it was kaka + luck that we won.

Posted by: misha Jul 8 2007, 07:17 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 8 2007, 08:48 AM)
Even though i hate to admit it, i think they're very desperate for the cup.
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What else is new. They are desperate to win it for many years and spent ridiculous amounts in the past to achieve so. CL is for winners and merda just can't fit in cool.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 8 2007, 12:23 PM

Concerning the german CL clubs, I think Stuttgart will be a good surprise. Not that they have a realistic chance to win the CL but I'm sure they'll surprise many football fans as they did it in the Bundesliga last season. They have one of the most talented strikers in Europe (Mario Gomez) and good playmaker in Yildiray Bastürk who already has a lot of CL experience. Hildebrands transfer will be a problem though. their new keeper just doesn't have his class.
Besides them there are the usual suspects of course. With their new I would Bayern give a chance to win the CL as well, but they'll have a nice time in the loser cup laugh.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 8 2007, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 8 2007, 11:23 AM)
Concerning the german CL clubs, I think Stuttgart will be a good surprise. Not that they have a realistic chance to win the CL but I'm sure they'll surprise many football fans as they did it in the Bundesliga last season.

With their new I would Bayern give a chance to win the CL as well, but they'll have a nice time in the loser cup laugh.gif
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Stuttgart have Der Hammer, they'll always have a chance. cool.gif

It's not a loser Cup. mad.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 8 2007, 12:33 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 8 2007, 12:29 PM)
Stuttgart have Der Hammer, they'll always have a chance.  cool.gif

It's not a loser Cup.  mad.gif
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Hitzsperger, well he's been much better last season than he has been before. Didn't he play for Villa before he joined Stuttgart in '06? Well, he surely is THE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaawySlNKqE

If Bayern plays the UEFA Cup it has to be a loser cup tongue.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 8 2007, 12:49 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 8 2007, 11:33 AM)
Hitzsperger, well he's been much better last season than he has been before. Didn't he play for Villa before he joined Stuttgart in '06? Well, he surely is THE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaawySlNKqE

If Bayern plays the UEFA Cup it has to be a loser cup tongue.gif
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He was a trainee at Bayern, told he wasn't good enough so we picked him up. He never scored a bad goal for us, all of 'em for 30 yard screamers.

What better way to treat the club that gave you a chance by telling them you'll re-sign in january with 6 months left on your deal, then deciding you want to leave on a free at the end of the season. I still like him, but he's about as welcome as any Blues player at Villa Park. tongue.gif

Good to see he's a regular in the NT now, and getting some success in Germany.

Posted by: Portikins Jul 8 2007, 04:17 PM

You guys are crazy. There's 1 month and 20 days to close the market and you're already saying "Onighted to win bla bla bla".

Let's just wait. 1st of September we're here to say who are the favourites.

Many things can change.

Posted by: LaPalma Jul 8 2007, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Jul 8 2007, 04:17 PM)
You guys are crazy. There's 1 month and 20 days to close the market and you're already saying "Onighted to win bla bla bla".

Let's just wait. 1st of September we're here to say who are the favourites.

Many things can change.
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I don't think that saying that it'll be up to the usual suspects (Milan, Chelsea, Real etc..) to win the CL is crazy. It's basically up to the same teams to win the CL every year. I dunno which of these teams will be the favourite, but it's very likely that one those "usual suspects" will win.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 8 2007, 06:25 PM

I don't know about you guys .. But this CL has Milan's name written all over it devil.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 3 2007, 01:37 PM

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CL Qualifying Draw: Arsenal, Liverpool, Celtic Have Work To Do

Arsenal and Liverpool might still be favourites to go through, but will get a good work out when they take on Sparta Prague and Ligue 1 third placed finishers Toulouse respectively. Celtic must over come Spartak Moscow.

Elsewhere, Sevilla take on AEK Athens, Lazio face a tricky tie against Dinamo Bucharest, while Rangers could face Red Star Belgrade. Valencia are the only ones who have it easy.

The Draw In Full

SS Lazio vs. Dinamo Bucharest

Sevilla vs. AEK Athens

Valencia vs. Debreceni / Elfsborg

Sparta Prague vs. Arsenal 

Toulouse vs. Liverpool

Ajax vs. Slavia Praha / MSK Zilina

Spartak Moscow vs. Celtic

Rangers / Zeta vs. Red Star Belgrade / Levadia Tallinn

Fenerbahce vs. Anderlecht

Benfica vs. FC  Copenhagen / Beitar Jerusalem

FC Zurich vs. Besiktas / FC Sheriff

Werder Bremen vs. Domžale / Dinamo Zagreb

FH Hafnarfjördur / Bate Borisov (BLR) v Zagłębie Lubin / Steaua Bucuresti

Tampere United / Levski Sofia v Astana / Rosenborg

FK Ventspils / Salzburg  vs. Pyunik / Shakhtar Donetsk

Genk / FK Sarajevo v Dynamo Kiev

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Aug 3 2007, 01:51 PM

Arsenal V Sparta Prague, anyone else get the feeling of a shock?

Note For Arsenal Fan: It's just my opinion!

Posted by: Warchant Aug 3 2007, 03:06 PM

i hope adu gets a great CL experience with benfica!

Posted by: Portikins Aug 3 2007, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Warchant @ Aug 3 2007, 03:06 PM)
i hope adu gets a great CL experience with benfica!
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It won't be easy to get in the first 11. At least for now. But we'll see.

Posted by: amancik Aug 4 2007, 10:35 AM

what? benfica signed freddy adu?
how about Rui Costa, is he still there?

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 4 2007, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Aug 3 2007, 01:51 PM)
Arsenal V Sparta Prague, anyone else get the feeling of a shock?

Note For Arsenal Fan: It's just my opinion!
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In all honesty...yes.
After last season I'm now scared sh*tless of underdogs.
Good thing Sheffield United was relegated...

Posted by: Tennie Aug 4 2007, 01:33 PM

Yep, Rui Costa is still at Benfica. He played the entire 90 minutes in a friendly yesterday (0-0 draw with Betis). Freddy will have someone veryvery good to learn from.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 5 2007, 12:47 PM

Lippi says Barca and Inter are the teams to watch in the CL

Lippi says alot of stuff...

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 5 2007, 01:30 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Aug 5 2007, 12:47 PM)
Lippi says Barca and Inter are the teams to watch in the CL

Lippi says alot of stuff...
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unsure.gif
Poor guy, he is going old...

Posted by: Portikins Aug 5 2007, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Aug 5 2007, 12:47 PM)
Lippi says Barca and Inter are the teams to watch in the CL

Lippi says alot of stuff...
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Lippi said that Roma was going to knock United out last season. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 08:16 PM

Bunch of third round qualifiers underway today.

In the 26th minute, it's Lazio 0 - 1 Dinamo Bucharest. Each team has already made an injury sub (Cribari out, Kolarov in for Lazio).

In the 12th minute, Rangers and Red Star Belgrade are scoreless. Red Star has already picked up a yellow for a bad foul.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 14 2007, 08:19 PM

Even Capello thinks Inter are up for the double...something doesn't sound right...

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 08:51 PM

Happy news. smile.gif

Benfica lead FC Copenhagen 1-0. Screamer of a goal from midfield by Rui Costa in the 25th.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 14 2007, 08:51 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 14 2007, 07:51 PM)
Happy news. smile.gif

Benfica lead FC Copenhagen 1-0. Screamer of a goal from midfield by Rui Costa in the 25th.
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cool.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 08:58 PM

Oh dear. Copenhagen have equalized, with Luisao (first game back after a long injury) getting hurt in the process.

Luisao out, replaced by Freddy Adu in the 37th.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 14 2007, 08:58 PM

heh heh...who's ur daddy...

Posted by: Darunia Aug 14 2007, 09:04 PM

Benfica 1-1 Copenhagen

Lazio 1-1 Dinamo Bucharest


Adu for Luisao? Adu isn't a defender huh.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 14 2007, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Aug 14 2007, 08:04 PM)
Benfica 1-1 Copenhagen

Lazio 1-1 Dinamo Bucharest
Adu for Luisao?  Adu isn't a defender  huh.gif
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You don't need any defenders against Cpopenhagen. tongue.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 09:26 PM

They've apparently moved Katsouranis back into defense. Second half just started with Coentrao replacing Bergessio (striker for striker).

The Biancocelesti are being naughty. It's 1-1 at the Olimpico, but Behrami got a straight red for a bad foul and Mutarelli a yellow for protesting the red.

Rangers and Red Star are still scoreless at Ibrox (Red Star has 3 yellows as of the 60th min).

Valencia leads Elfsborg 1-0 (goal by Vicente- I think, my Spanish sucks - in the 6th).

EDIT:

The Biancocelesti are VERY naughty. Mutarelli red-carded in the 86th.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2007, 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 14 2007, 11:26 PM)
EDIT:

The Biancocelesti are VERY naughty. Mutarelli red-carded in the 86th.
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Now ur being NAUGHTY biggrin.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 14 2007, 09:54 PM

tongue.gif at R7.

Lazio 1 - 1 Dinamo Bucharest, FT. Lazio ended the game with 9 guys, Dinamo with 10.

Novo goal for Rangers in the 90th gave them the win over Red Star Belgrade

Benfica and Copenhagen are 1-1 as of the 79th and Valencia still have the 1 goal lead over Elfsborg at the half.

And now I'm going to a work meeting. Hasta!

Posted by: arivanjj Aug 14 2007, 10:08 PM

Rui scored 2? cool.gif

http://www.zshare.net/download/313807828de8b9/

http://www.zshare.net/download/31389237688804/

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Posted by: KillerMax Aug 15 2007, 12:14 AM

Thanks ari. Rui is such an incredible player. It's just a pity he never really got going for us like he did for Fiorentina and he is doing now for Benfica, but he was still an assist King for us. Forza Rui!

Posted by: dst Aug 15 2007, 03:28 AM

Rui, yesss!!!!! king.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 15 2007, 03:55 AM

Thanks for the vids but... what's this Star Trek guy doing in Copenhagen's bench?



Bad reel!?? rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tennie Aug 15 2007, 11:56 AM

Nice match report article on Benfica's game on Uefa.com (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=570944.html).

Best quote: Rui Costa's genius also earned praise from København coach Ståle Solbakken. "I think he is even too clever for his own team-mates," Solbakken said.

Posted by: dst Aug 15 2007, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 15 2007, 01:56 PM)
Best quote:  Rui Costa's genius also earned praise from København coach Ståle Solbakken. "I think he is even too clever for his own team-mates," Solbakken said.
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Posted by: Tennie Aug 15 2007, 05:25 PM

In today's early 3d round game, Scousers defeated Toulouse 1-0, Voronin goal in the first half.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 15 2007, 09:37 PM

Sparta Prague 0-2 Arsenal.

1st. goal by Fabregas after a fantastic run by Clichy.
2. goal by Hleb, pass from Sagna.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 16 2007, 12:21 AM

2 great goals by Rui but Benfica sucked yesterday. They need something more after selling M.Fernandes to Everton.

Liverpool did what they know best. Defend well and a stunner by Voronin.

Arsenal solved their problems in 10 minutes. Very good result.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 23 2007, 09:53 PM

Lippi says Barca and Milan are the faves for this CL

a couple of weeks ago though he said Inter and Barca were the faves

Posted by: Portikins Aug 23 2007, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Aug 23 2007, 09:53 PM)
Lippi says Barca and Milan are the faves for this CL

a couple of weeks ago though he said Inter and Barca were the faves
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That was Capello, I think.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 23 2007, 10:13 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 23 2007, 08:55 PM)
That was Capello, I think.
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Im pretty sure it was Lippi, but let me double check

Its also possible that the names were mixed up

Posted by: dst Aug 24 2007, 09:08 AM

I think too that that was Capello...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 24 2007, 09:38 AM

No, it was George Edwards

Posted by: dst Aug 28 2007, 04:00 PM

It's AEK vs Sevilla tonight and I don't know what's going to happen... AEK's player are devastated by the deaths of people here in Greece caused by the fires and now Sevilla lost a member of theirs...

I think UEFA should show their human face and let the players decide if they want to play or not...


... cry.gif It's so sad...


edit: it's almost official now, UEFA has postponed the game...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 28 2007, 04:23 PM

Agreed.

Both tradgedies are much more important than scheduling trouble that it may cause. I'd sy postpone it without question. This really isn't a time where you can play football properly.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 28 2007, 05:43 PM

A classy gesture from the Scousers in honor of the local boy (an Everton fan) who was shot last week:

Liverpool Football Club will tonight pay Rhys Jones the ultimate tribute by playing his beloved Everton anthem at Anfield before the clash with Toulouse.

The Z-Cars theme tune 'Johnny Todd' - the song which traditionally greets the arrival of the Everton team onto the Goodison Park pitch - will be played prior to 'You'll Never Walk Alone' ahead of this evening's 8.05pm kick-off.

Following a suggestion from Liverpool Echo feature writer Tony Barrett to mark the youngster's tragic death in such an unprecedented way, the newspaper was inundated with requests for the unique tribute to be staged.

Anfield chief executive Rick Parry spoke with Rhys's family who agreed they would be delighted if the Reds paid tribute to their son's memory in such a fitting way.

After the two songs there will then be a minute's applause and the Liverpool players will show their respect by wearing black armbands during the game.

Rhys's parents Stephen and Melanie will also be at Anfield for the game.

The youngster's uncle Neil Jones admits the family have been overwhelmed by such a show of support from the Blues' city rivals.

He said: "When I told them about the proposed tribute at Anfield, Melanie said playing Johnny Todd at Anfield would be a unique event, a complete one-off, just like Rhys, and a fitting tribute to him as it was his favourite tune.

"She's also pretty sure he'll have a little mischievous grin on his face at the thought of being the cause of it."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156815070828-0944.htm

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 28 2007, 06:00 PM

Now that is classy.

If I was to pick one stadium on earth that I've never hear that theme, it's Anfield. A really top gesture from RedScouse FC

Posted by: dst Aug 28 2007, 07:29 PM

A great gesture!!

That was a tragic incident... our world truly sucks...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 28 2007, 08:48 PM

Dinamo Bucuresti 1 - 0 Lazio 44 minutes gone.
27' [1 - 0] F. Bratu

Liverpool 1 - 0 Toulouse 40 minutes gone.
19' [1 - 0] P. Crouch

Red Star Belgrade 0 - 0 Rangers 88 minutes gone.

Posted by: dst Aug 28 2007, 11:07 PM

Lazio are in Champions League!!! They beat Dinamo 1-3 at Bucharest (1st Leg: 1-1)!!! smile.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 28 2007, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 29 2007, 01:07 AM)
Lazio are in Champions League!!! They beat Dinamo 1-3 at Bucharest (1st Leg: 1-1)!!! smile.gif
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Great news !!!! devil.gif devil.gif devil.gif

So we have 4 Italian teams now king.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 28 2007, 11:19 PM

And Liverpool join them with a 4-0 (5-0) win over Toulouse. Rangers also make it with a 0-0 in Belgrade, putting them through 1-0 on aggregate.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 29 2007, 02:57 AM

happy to see lazio in, happy to see rangers in, not happy to see livercesspool in wink.gif

Posted by: aLbErTo Aug 29 2007, 03:41 PM

DINAMOOOOOOOO biggrin.gif i hope werder gets stunt today biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 29 2007, 05:14 PM

I would like to see Lazio make it to the quarters at least and as for Roma, I would love for them to reach the semis this time .. It would be interesting if we had two Italian derby's in the semis devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 29 2007, 07:04 PM

Dynamo Kiev qualified for another CL (10 times in the last 11 years) king.gif

BTW Milan will play against Dynamo on September 6 in honor of 80th birthday of the Ukrainian team.

Posted by: aLbErTo Aug 29 2007, 08:21 PM

dinamo-werder 2-2 HT, damn hauge, he just doesn't know to judge equal...

Posted by: Portikins Aug 29 2007, 08:34 PM

HT: Copenhagen 0-1 Benfica, Katsouranis (dst doing his little dance right now)

1-3 agg. until now.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 29 2007, 08:37 PM

Arsenal 1-0 Sparta Prague.
Rosicky on assist from Walcott.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 29 2007, 08:55 PM

Celtic 1-1 Spartak Moscow (2-2 Agg.)
Spartak have also missed a penalty.
Spartak are down to 10 men.

Sorry Alberto. Zagreb 2-3 Bremen. Diego from the penalty spot. Looks like the Germans are through.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 29 2007, 09:47 PM

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Ajax are out. AGAIN.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 29 2007, 09:58 PM

And Benfica did it again. For the 2nd consecutive time in history... 3 portuguese teams in the Champions.

DRAW TOMORROW AT 17:00 GMT

Posted by: misha Aug 29 2007, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 29 2007, 11:47 PM)
ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  Ajax are out. AGAIN.
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Shame! with squad like this failing aginst Slavia sad.gif

At least a second Ukrainian club ,Shakhtar, with Lucarelli is also got through.

Celtic and Spartak goes to penalties.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 29 2007, 10:21 PM

Celtic and Sparta have both scored one and missed one penalty

3-2

Posted by: Tennie Aug 29 2007, 10:26 PM

Hoops are through. So both Scottish teams go through in addition to both Ukrainian teams and both Turkish teams. And..correct me if I'm wrong, but there aren't any Dutch teams at all going through, are there?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 29 2007, 10:26 PM

Boruc owns! Celtic are in the Champions Legaue! biggrin.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 29 2007, 10:28 PM

Spartak lost biggrin.gif Two Ukrainian teams but only one Russian in the CL cool.gif and the last penalty for Spartak was missed by Ukrainian player rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 29 2007, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 12:26 AM)
Hoops are through. So both Scottish teams go through in addition to both Ukrainian teams and both Turkish teams. And..correct me if I'm wrong, but there aren't any Dutch teams at all going through, are there?
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The Dutch champion goes directly to the group stage.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 29 2007, 10:32 PM

Ah. Thanks, Mishale. I'd forgotten that. Seems a bit odd to only see one Dutch team in.

Sounds like Kiev has a good team this year. And yay for the 3 Portuguese teams. wink.gif

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 29 2007, 10:40 PM

Arsenal 3-0 Sparta Prague.
Rosicky, Fabregas and Da Silva.


And Rosenborg has beaten Tampere Unite from Finland 5-0 on aggregate!!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Aug 29 2007, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 29 2007, 08:55 PM)
Celtic 1-1 Spartak Moscow (2-2 Agg.)
Spartak have also missed a penalty.
Spartak are down to 10 men.

Sorry Alberto. Zagreb 2-3 Bremen. Diego from the penalty spot. Looks like the Germans are through.
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Even without 7 regular players Bremen is better than Zagreb laugh.gif

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 01:09 AM

POT 1
AC Milan (ITA, holders)
FC Barcelona (ESP)
Liverpool FC (ENG)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Arsenal FC (ENG)
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Manchester United FC (ENG)


POT 2
Valencia CF (ESP)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
FC Porto (POR)
Sevilla FC (ESP) / AEK Athens FC (GRE)
PSV Eindhoven (NED)
AS Roma (ITA)
SL Benfica (POR)
Werder Bremen (GER)


POT 3
Celtic FC (SCO)
FC Schalke 04 (GER)
VfB Stuttgart (GER)
FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
S.S. Lazio (ITA)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)


POT 4
Rangers FC (SCO)
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Beşiktaş JK (TUR)
Olympiacos CFP (GRE)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE)
Rosenborg BK (NOR)


So who do we want? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 01:17 AM

My bet: Milan, PSV Eindhoven, Celtic FC, SK Slavia Praha

Posted by: Tennie Aug 30 2007, 01:24 AM

(The easy draw again, Porty?)

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 01:44 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 01:24 AM)
(The easy draw again, Porty?)
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Due to the depth in our roster (not sufficient), I'd take the easiest group possible.

This year the trophy that I really want Milan to win is the Serie A.

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 01:48 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 30 2007, 03:44 AM)
This year the trophy that I really want Milan to win is the Serie A.
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Me too.

My bet: Milan, Valencia, Stuttgart, Fenerbahçe

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 30 2007, 02:09 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 29 2007, 06:48 PM)
Me too.

My bet: Milan, Valencia, Stuttgart, Fenerbahçe
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Man that's one KRAZY group....

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 02:09 AM

i have a feeling that if we get a tough group like the group of death we wont make it past the first round. so an easy or average draw is what we need. and ya i really want us to win serie a too, especially if it's our only trophy of the season.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 02:11 AM

my bet Sevilla, Marseilles, Beşiktaş.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 02:15 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 30 2007, 04:09 AM)
i have a feeling that if we get a tough group like the group of death we wont make it past the first round. so an easy or average draw is what we need. and ya i really want us to win serie a too, especially if it's our only trophy of the season.
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ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif


If Pippo heard u he'd smack u across ur head !!

We have a very STRONG team. Thus, no matter what, Milan will go through .. Straight to Moscow devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 02:19 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 29 2007, 08:15 PM)
ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif
If Pippo heard u he'd smack u across ur head !!

We have a very STRONG team. Thus, no matter what, Milan will go through .. Straight to Moscow devilsmiley.gif  devilsmiley.gif
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it's more a gut feeling than anything. we've had so much success in CL recently so it's bound to go wrong sometimes.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 02:20 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 30 2007, 02:15 AM)
We have a very STRONG team.

Not true and you know it well.

We've a strong first 11. Maybe 4 or 5 good guys in the bench. But not a strong squad.

Compare our depth to Inter, Barcelona, Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool... specially these ones.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 02:25 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 30 2007, 04:20 AM)
Not true and you know it well.

We've a strong first 11. Maybe 4 or 5 good guys in the bench. But not a strong squad.

Compare our depth to Inter, Barcelona, Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool... specially these ones.
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Yeah compare the depth .. Then tell me who won the CL devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Add to that team Ronaldo and Emerson and what have u got king.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 02:26 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 30 2007, 04:19 AM)
it's more a gut feeling than anything. we've had so much success in CL  recently so it's bound to go wrong sometimes.
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It already did in 04 (Deportivo) and 05 (Istanbul) ... Nothing can be worse smile.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 03:42 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 29 2007, 08:26 PM)
It already did in 04 (Deportivo) and 05 (Istanbul) ... Nothing can be worse smile.gif
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ya i guess. we'll just have to wait until the draw is over

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 08:32 AM

I want PFC CSKA Moskva... I need to see us check the air... maybe the ground too as the Final could be held at this stadium instead of the Luzhniki.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 10:24 AM

Milan/Lyon/Stuttgart/Rosenborg is my guess.

Hopefully Milan, Celtic and Sevilla and get 'easy' draws.

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 10:40 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 12:24 PM)
Milan/Lyon/Stuttgart/Rosenborg is my guess.

Hopefully Milan, Celtic and Sevilla and get 'easy' draws.
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Celtic? I thought you did not like the Scots... unsure.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 10:48 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 09:40 AM)
Celtic? I thought you did not like the Scots...  unsure.gif
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I've always liked Celtic, Villa have good links with them. Plus 90% of Scotland hate Celtic, so that's more reason to like 'em. wink.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Aug 30 2007, 12:21 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 09:48 AM)
I've always liked Celtic, Villa have good links with them. Plus 90% of Scotland hate Celtic, so that's more reason to like 'em.  wink.gif
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Ditto, perhaps the fact that they don't seem to big themselves up all the time like Rangers used to do rolleyes.gif

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 12:57 PM

i bet werder, marseille, and fenerbahce

Posted by: rhy_A4 Aug 30 2007, 01:40 PM

anyone have a link so i we can watch it live ?

Posted by: Tennie Aug 30 2007, 02:31 PM

The draw will be shown live on UEFA's website (www.uefa.com)

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 03:29 PM

Milan, Benfica, Steaua, Slavia would be an ideal group. We could play with our
subs in that one.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 30 2007, 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 01:31 PM)
The draw will be shown live on UEFA's website (www.uefa.com)
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Do you have to have the membership tp view it?

Posted by: Tennie Aug 30 2007, 03:53 PM

You may need it to see the video live. But the graphic thing that shows the pots and the A-H groups is free. I've already got it up.

EDIT: It looks like they will show the video free.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 30 2007, 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 02:53 PM)
You may need it to see the video live. But the graphic thing that shows the pots and the A-H groups is free. I've already got it up.

EDIT: It looks like they will show the video free.
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Yeah just noticed it, thanks

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 04:47 PM

At what time is the draw ... Basically, how long till the draw ?!

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 09:53 AM)
You may need it to see the video live. But the graphic thing that shows the pots and the A-H groups is free. I've already got it up.

EDIT: It looks like they will show the video free.
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last year i watched the actual draw free, i hope they do it again this year.

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 04:55 PM

A couple of minutes till it starts.

I don't want a weak group, instead I'd like a strong one! That will keep us awake both in the CL and the Scudetto run!! This team needs motivation above everything else...

Posted by: han2503 Aug 30 2007, 04:57 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 03:55 PM)
A couple of minutes till it starts.

I don't want a weak group, instead I'd like a strong one! That will keep us awake both in the CL and the Scudetto run!! This team needs motivation above everything else...
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I personally would prefer an easy group so that we don't lose points in the league because of tough group games.

Plus we usually start the CL weak and go to the KOs strong.

Anyway draw about to start now, EUFA live stream alreasy up and working

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 04:59 PM

so does this thing start in a couple of minutes? i'm terrible with international times.

(edit: nevermind..it's started)

WOOHOO!!! devil.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:08 PM

European Club Goalkeeper of the Year:
Last years winner: Jens Lehmann

Nominees:
Petr Cech (Chelsea)
Dida (Milan)
Jose Reina (Liverpool)

Winner: Petr Cech (Chelsea)

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 05:11 PM

no real shocker there

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:16 PM

GROUP D: MILAN!

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 05:16 PM

Group D

well, that was quick

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Warchant @ Aug 30 2007, 07:16 PM)
Group D

well, that was quick
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Yup biggrin.gif

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 05:23 PM

funny...the media says we have an old defense...yet both maldini and nesta are finalist for defender of the year

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 05:24 PM

PAOLO WINS!!!!!!!!

forza capitano!!!

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:24 PM

Paolo king.gif king.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:24 PM

European Club Defender of the Year:
Last years winner: Fabio Cannavaro?

Nominees:
Jamie Carragher (Liverpool)
Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
Paolo Maldini (Milan)
Alessandro Nesta (Milan)
John Terry (Chelsea)
Nemanja Vidic (United)

Winner: Paolo Maldini (Milan)

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:24 PM

MALDINI = BEST DEFENDER OF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2006/07

Congrats champ.

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 30 2007, 07:16 PM)
GROUP D: MILAN!
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D is for Destroy all opponents!! wink.gif

Paolo... Oh my God!! king.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:27 PM

Lucky Inter with PSV... c*nts.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 30 2007, 07:24 PM)
Paolo king.gif  king.gif
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Il Capitano !!! devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:28 PM

Chelsea, Valencia...

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:29 PM

and maldini as the club defender of the year yayyyyy

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:31 PM

BENFICA!!!!

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:31 PM

hmm okay doesnt sound too bad

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:31 PM

Milan are with Benfica. Not a good start. dry.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:31 PM

Milan, BENFICA! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:33 PM

united and roma should be interesting

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:33 PM

Porty you lucky b@stard biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:34 PM

I AM GOING TO SEE MILAN IN LISBON. AND YOU? laugh.gif wink.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 05:34 PM

no i think benfica isnt a hard draw, they lost 3-4 important players during the summer..

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:35 PM

KAKA FOR MIDFIELDER OF THE YEAR COME ON

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:35 PM

European Club Midfielder of the Year:

Nominees:
Genaro Gattuso (Milan)
Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
Andrea Pirlo (Milan)
Paul Scholes (United)
Clarence Seedorf (Milan)


Winner: Clarence Seedorf (Milan)

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:35 PM

Seedorf king.gif

EDIT: I wanted Rino though

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:36 PM

seedorf... oh okay at least a rossonero xD

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:36 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 30 2007, 07:31 PM)
Milan, BENFICA!  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Lucky u wink.gif


Come on .. I want Milan, Benfica and Al-Salmiya biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:37 PM

TURTLE POWER !!!!! devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:39 PM

CELTIC!!!!

Easy draw so far

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:40 PM

Milan, Benfica and.. CELTIC! All my teams!

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:40 PM

CELTIC!!1

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 07:31 PM)
Milan are with Benfica. Not a good start. dry.gif
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Not exactly!! Benfica are not so good this season. Plus, we'll get some Porty coverage!! wink.gif

QUOTE (mchanna @ Aug 30 2007, 07:33 PM)
united and roma should be interesting
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Yup!

So, Kaka will be listed as a forward!! Smells like Galliani spirit... rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

Oh and well done Mr.Turtle! smile.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:43 PM

This will not be an easy group at all !!!!

Benfica - Are a tricky team ..


Celtic - Well, Milan have been there before cool.gif


EDIT: Group C


Lazio - Real Madrid - Werder Bremen ... Now that is a very unpredictable group.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 05:45 PM

but as our 2nd seeded team benfica is a good draw for us, celtic i think isnt.

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:45 PM

KAKA FOR FORWARD COME ON

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:46 PM

European Club Forward of the Year:

Nominees:
Cristiano Ronaldo (United)
Didier Drogba (Chelsea)
Kaka' (Milan)
Wayne Rooney (United)
Francesco Totti (Roma)
David Villa (Valencia)


Winner: Kaka' (Milan)

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 05:48 PM

Never had a doubt in my mind !!!


So we have taken all spots except for Gkeeping ...

Maldini - Seedorf - Kaka' ... I would say that should answer our critics ! devilsmiley.gif


Forza Milan !!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 05:54 PM

Milan, Benfica, Celtic and.. Shaktar Donetsk!

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 05:54 PM

Milan ,Benfica, Celtic, Shakhtar

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:54 PM

rosenborg to chelsea

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 05:55 PM

on paper we shouldnt have trouble, but this is a tricky group.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 05:55 PM

Milan, Benfica, Celtic and Shaktar.

It's ok.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 05:56 PM

haha barca gets group of death again, and inter get easiest group.

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 05:57 PM

kaka for pülayer of the year and im happy biggrin.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 06:01 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 30 2007, 05:56 PM)
haha barca gets group of death again, and inter get easiest group.
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Not so easy.

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 06:03 PM

I'm happy with this draw (especially compering to some other groups). We will progress without any problem.

Benfica lost a few key players and not as stronger this season as used to be. Celtic have a mediocre start this year and was playing bad against Spartak. Shakhtar bought some good players like Lucarelli and Castillo, and away it will be a very dificult game but nothing we can't handle.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 06:04 PM



I am a little wary.

Celtic: A few years ago we had them in the groups. Drew away, scored 2 late goals to win at home. Last year we needed extra time to beat them - We don't have that luxury this time round.

Benfica: We won't win in Portugal, we should win at home.

Shakhtar: Eastern European teams are historically good at home, I'd be happy with a draw away and a win at home.

We should all be happy with qualifying, it's a very tough group.

Posted by: rhy_A4 Aug 30 2007, 06:08 PM

FORZA MALDINI

FORZA KAKA

FORZA SEEDORF

CONGRATULATIONS


devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 06:10 PM

God, Seedorf, Ricky and Ricky... king.gif

well done to Cech too! smile.gif

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 30 2007, 07:45 PM)
but as our 2nd seeded team benfica is a good draw for us, celtic i think isnt.
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I agree. Celtic at Glascow will be the most difficult game for us in my view...

I think we won't go through easily because that's usually they way it is when we play low-profile teams but we will do it comfortably...

Let's go! Road to Moscow begins... Forza Ragazzi!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 06:12 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 08:04 PM)
We should all be happy with qualifying, it's a very tough group.
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I think you are exaggerating a little. The other 3 will be fighting for the second spot.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 30 2007, 06:13 PM

Well. Interesting draw. Chelsea-Valencia and MU-Roma in the same respective groups this go round. I'd imagine that some folks (ROMA?) will be thinking about payback this go round.

At a quick glance, I'd say that Milan got a relatively easy draw. The away Shakhtar tie will be difficult (anyone know if they play on artificial turf?) as will the game at Parkhead. Much as I adore Benfica, they're playing like shite this year after having sold off so many players and fired their coach. I think a win at Luz is possible. (And given the $500 RT flights to Lisbon, I may try to get there for the game).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 06:14 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 30 2007, 05:12 PM)
I think you are exaggerating a little. The other 3 will be fighting for the second spot.
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It's a harder group than last year, and I felt we struggled. I think we'll go through, don't get over-confident. You know what happens when we do!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 06:15 PM

Group A: Liverpool - Porto - Marseilla - Besiktas (Liverpool would breeze through here)

Group B: Chelsea - Valencia - Schalke - Rosenborg (Valencia and Chelsea rolleyes.gif , but Schalke are no push overs either, so ..)

Group C: Real Madrid - Werder Bremen - Lazio - Olympiakos (Very tricky group ..)

Group D: AC Milan - Benfica - Celtic - Shakhtar Donetsk. (Milan wont have a problem with topping this group king.gif )

Group E: Barcelona - Lyon - Stuttgart - Rangers (Easily Barca and Lyon respectively, they are the most experienced of the bunch)

Group F: Manchester United - Roma - Sporting Lisbon - Dynamo Kiev. ( I know Roma are already grinning !!! They want their revenge devil.gif FORZA ROMA - I believe United and Roma will go through )

Group G: Inter Milan - PSV - CSKA Moscow - Fenerbahce. (Inter has the quality to see it's way through this group, followed by PSV or CSKA)

Group H: Arsenal - Sevilla/AEK - Steaua Bucharest - Slavia Prague. (Do I need to comment, first place is reserved for the French, ey Porty biggrin.gif )

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 30 2007, 08:13 PM)
(anyone know if they play on artificial turf?)
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It was normal turf when Olympiacos played there last season (I think)...

By the way, did Platini look stoned or is it just me? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Aug 30 2007, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 05:16 PM)
It was normal turf when Olympiacos played there last season (I think)...

By the way, did Platini look stoned or is it just me? rolleyes.gif  tongue.gif
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ahahah he did walk a bit slow laugh.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Aug 30 2007, 06:18 PM

by the way can anyone get the video for the awards ?

Posted by: misha Aug 30 2007, 06:21 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 08:14 PM)
It's a harder group than last year, and I felt we struggled. I think we'll go through, don't get over-confident. You know what happens when we do!
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Yes, it's harder than last year but last year Milan was in different situation too.

It is a normal turf.

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 06:27 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 08:14 PM)
It's a harder group than last year, and I felt we struggled. I think we'll go through, don't get over-confident. You know what happens when we do!
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I don't think it's tougher but whatever... everything will be proved on the green!

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=577429.html at uefa.com

Champions League starts again! Oh, how much I adore those CL nights... there's nothing better than eating your pizza and drinking your beer(s) watching your team on those starry nights! smile.gif

And... Grande Rui will be back at the San Siro!!! king.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 06:31 PM

Please post here every picture you manage to find of this event! smile.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 30 2007, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 08:27 PM)
And... Grande Rui will be back at the San Siro!!! king.gif
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Holly sh1t !!!!


That slipped my mind !! devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 06:37 PM

Anybody knows the days of the matches?

Fvck me. Milan, Liverpool, Roma and Manchester United coming to Portugal until December. That's amazing. I'll be in some matches for sure.

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 30 2007, 08:37 PM)
Anybody knows the days of the matches?

Fvck me. Milan, Liverpool, Roma and Manchester United coming to Portugal until December. That's amazing. I'll be in some matches for sure.
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If you go to Porto vs ********* don't talk to me again! dry.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 05:27 PM)
And... Grande Rui will be back at the San Siro!!! king.gif
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I completely forgot! king.gif

Donati will be 'back' with Celtic, not that he was really ever here. tongue.gif

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 07:27 PM

i think we got a good draw...it's not the easiest group, but we are a much better team now than when we started last season. especially the celtic series...i don't think you can compare the beginning of this season with the beginning of last season...we had just lost sheva, gone through a scandal, and most of our players had no rest. we're ready this year and i see us easily taking the top of our group.

Posted by: mchanna Aug 30 2007, 07:36 PM

i think the first matches are at september 18/19

Posted by: Portikins Aug 30 2007, 07:40 PM

QUOTE (mchanna @ Aug 30 2007, 07:36 PM)
i think the first matches are at september 18/19
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Benfica visits Milano. cool.gif

The same day Liverpool plays in Porto.

Posted by: m1ke Aug 30 2007, 07:43 PM

Have fun Porty - don't forget the pics wink.gif

I'm gonna try and make it up to Celtic Park when Milan go to Scotland. Ryanair are doing 2p flights to Glasgow at the moment!

Posted by: Tennie Aug 30 2007, 08:00 PM

(from the club website)

Here are the dates of Milan's group stage games:

Milan-Benfica: 18 settembre 2007
Celtic Glasgow-Milan: 3 ottobre 2007
Milan-Shakhtar Donetsk: 24 ottobre2007
Shakhtar Donetsk-Milan: 6 novembre 2007
Benfica-Milan: 28 novembre 2007
Milan-Celtic: 4 dicembre 2007

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 30 2007, 08:05 PM

Good to see two of the first three games at home. A good start is always the key.

The game in Glasgow is just a week after my birthday, I'll try and persuade my dad to get me a ticket as a present or something! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Warchant Aug 30 2007, 09:00 PM


Posted by: arivanjj Aug 30 2007, 09:47 PM

oooooh... i like it! it'll be an exciting group... i can't wait biggrin.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 10:00 PM

Something I forgot to mention; just how cool are those suits of our players!!!? So awesome, so classy... cool.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Aug 30 2007, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 30 2007, 12:27 PM)
I don't think it's tougher but whatever... everything will be proved on the green!

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=577429.html at uefa.com

Champions League starts again! Oh, how much I adore those CL nights... there's nothing better than eating your pizza and drinking your beer(s) watching your team on those starry nights! smile.gif

And... Grande Rui will be back at the San Siro!!! king.gif
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hehe for me there CL days, they start at 2:45pm here so i normally have to skip my last class and rush home all pumped up... good times biggrin.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 30 2007, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Aug 31 2007, 12:04 AM)
hehe for me there CL days, they start at 2:45pm here so i normally have to skip my last class and rush home all pumped up... good times biggrin.gif
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Well yeah... I forgot about time difference! tongue.gif

Posted by: MizNelson Aug 31 2007, 05:07 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 30 2007, 09:08 AM)
European Club Goalkeeper of the Year:
Last years winner: Jens Lehmann

Nominees:
Petr Cech (Chelsea)
Dida (Milan)
Jose Reina (Liverpool)

Winner: Petr Cech (Chelsea)
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Utter crap. Chelsea did jack again in the CL and Cech was out for nearly half of the season due to injury. What the hell was UEFA's crackpot criteria for the award, anyway? mad.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 31 2007, 07:05 AM

QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Aug 31 2007, 07:07 AM)
Utter crap. Chelsea did jack again in the CL and Cech was out for nearly half of the season due to injury. What the hell was UEFA's crackpot criteria for the award, anyway?  mad.gif
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He dis played all the important games for Chelsea in the CL (after group stage). Chelsea was eliminated only on penalties in the semi final (so it's not like they were eliminated early). And if you judge footballing skills, Cech is clearly better (for me anyway).

Posted by: Darunia Aug 31 2007, 07:30 AM

Dida doubtful for SuperCup with a shoulder injury - Goal.com

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Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 31 2007, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Aug 31 2007, 04:07 AM)
Utter crap. Chelsea did jack again in the CL and Cech was out for nearly half of the season due to injury. What the hell was UEFA's crackpot criteria for the award, anyway?  mad.gif
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I wouldn't say making the Semi-Final again is nothing. But I wouldn't have given it to Cech.. I'd have given it to Reina myself..

Would have been very nice to have all 5 awards won by Milan players though, to show our true dominance in last years latter stages. cool.gif

Posted by: dst Aug 31 2007, 12:46 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 31 2007, 01:58 PM)
I wouldn't say making the Semi-Final again is nothing. But I wouldn't have given it to Cech.. I'd have given it to Reina myself..
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Reina "only" saved two penalties against Chelsea... I mean... he didn't do much other than that.

In my view it was Cech then Dida then Reina.

Posted by: Portikins Aug 31 2007, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 31 2007, 12:46 PM)
Reina "only" saved two penalties against Chelsea... I mean... he didn't do much other than that.

In my view it was Cech then Dida then Reina.
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Like kurtie, I'd give it to Reina without a doubt.

Posted by: dst Aug 31 2007, 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 31 2007, 02:52 PM)
Like kurtie, I'd give it to Reina without a doubt.
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Without a doubt!!???! I think you're exaggerating there... if Reina took them to the final, Dida secured we'd win it when he stopped Gerrard's one-on-one!

Posted by: Portikins Aug 31 2007, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Aug 31 2007, 01:01 PM)
Without a doubt!!???! I think you're exaggerating there... if Reina took them to the final, Dida secured we'd win it when he stopped Gerrard's one-on-one!
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Dida could have done better vs. Bayern (San Siro) and in the first goal vs. United in Old Trafford.

Posted by: dst Aug 31 2007, 01:57 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Aug 31 2007, 03:50 PM)
Dida could have done better vs. Bayern (San Siro) and in the first goal vs. United in Old Trafford.
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Yes but Reina was not tested...

Posted by: Tennie Sep 2 2007, 12:44 AM

From the club website. Here's the list of Milan players registered to play during the group stage of the Champions League.

PORTIERI: Dida, Kalac, Fiori;
DIFENSORI: Cafu, Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic, Jankulovski, Favalli, Bonera, Serginho, Darmian, Oddo;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Kakà, Ronaldo.

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 2 2007, 12:57 AM

Adriano is dropped from merda's CL list... guess he'll be leaving in January...!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 2 2007, 01:06 AM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 1 2007, 11:57 PM)
Adriano is dropped from merda's CL list... guess he'll be leaving in January...!!
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ohmy.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 2 2007, 01:52 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 2 2007, 03:06 AM)
ohmy.gif
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Why r u shoked ?! unsure.gif

It was bound to happen .. If he wants to win any trophies, he better move out biggrin.gif

La merda, only the merda would do such a thing rolleyes.gif

PLUS ... That is what u get for overspending and not consentrating on a compact side (eg Milan)

Posted by: Portikins Sep 2 2007, 02:19 AM

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 2 2007, 12:57 AM)
Adriano is dropped from merda's CL list... guess he'll be leaving in January...!!
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Adriano's new "club".

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 2 2007, 02:23 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 2 2007, 01:19 AM)


Adriano's new "club".
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Posted by: arivanjj Sep 2 2007, 02:35 AM

@porty.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Sep 2 2007, 04:59 AM

this is an example of how much depth they have up front. they can afford to not even include adriano on the squad list. in the end if he leaves and does well sumwhere else they still have suazo who is a speed demon, crespo one of the best finishers out there and cruz who is a super sub and ibra who is the best SS in the world (i watched him today and he's stunning, he constantly setting up his teammates or creating chances for himself).

Posted by: bigmacmtl Sep 2 2007, 05:03 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 1 2007, 07:52 PM)
PLUS ... That is what u get for overspending and not consentrating on a compact side (eg Milan)
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they got chivu and suazo, thats overspending?ur clearly suffering from galliani syndrome tongue.gif what were the supposed to do with adriano??he's a drunken bum who he hasnt done in the past year and a half so they wanted sumone who will hopefully perform (suazo).

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 2 2007, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Sep 2 2007, 07:03 AM)
they got chivu and suazo, thats overspending?ur clearly suffering from galliani syndrome tongue.gif  what were the supposed to do with adriano??he's a drunken bum who he hasnt done in the past year and a half so they wanted sumone who will hopefully perform (suazo).
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Who said anything about Chivu unsure.gif

I wasn't refering to Adriano being "drunk" ... And I don't think it is fair for u to draw conclusions like that.

What I meant was this is what happens when u have 6 forwards and can only play 2. This is what happens when u overspend.

I mean look at Milan, Silvio Berlusconi could bring in 12 strikers if he wants ... But where would that leave Gila rolleyes.gif This my example of Milan, which is supposed to explain the difference between the two sides wink.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 2 2007, 12:19 PM

Go Darmian!! smile.gif

Posted by: Tennie Sep 4 2007, 02:33 AM

Hey, I've seen Darmian play. He's quite good, especially given his youth.

Anyway, snippet of news for the CL group phase: Chelsea has left Michael Ballack off their list for the Group Stage games.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 4 2007, 02:43 AM

I think Ballack's time at Chelsea is as good as over, when you have Mikel being picked in front of you, things aren't good.

The 32nd team was decided. Sevilla won the first leg 2-0 at home.

AEK Athens 1-4 Sevilla
31' [0 - 1] L. Fabiano (pen.)
41' [0 - 2] S. Keita
45' [0 - 3] L. Fabiano
53' [0 - 4] A. Kerzhakov
81' [1 - 4] Rivaldo

Posted by: Portikins Sep 12 2007, 04:09 AM

QUOTE
Manchester United and Liverpool oppose Platini

Liverpool and Manchester United have formally declared their opposition to UEFA president Michel Platini's plans for domestic cup winners to qualify for the Champions League.

The English clubs were the most outspoken opponents to the proposals among the 102 members of the European Club Forum who met in Nyon, Switzerland, on Tuesday.

There was a general acceptance of Platini's proposals to secure more places in the group stages of the competition for champions of the smaller leagues in Europe, but opinion was divided over his plan for cup winners.

UEFA communications director William Gaillard said: 'The most opposed to those proposals were Liverpool and Manchester United - they do not want to see a change to the format at all.

'Across the top seven countries however opinion was mixed. The Italians are strongly in favour because they want to revamp their cup competition, the Spanish and the French said it should be up to their FAs to decide, while the Germans were split among themselves.

'The clubs from the smaller countries were generally in agreement.'
The board of the forum will now decide whether to suggest counter-proposals to UEFA, who will decide on any changes at an executive committee meeting in November.

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is a member of the forum's board but he would not take such a strong position as the other two English clubs.


I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one. wink.gif

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 12 2007, 07:04 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 11 2007, 09:09 PM)
I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one.  wink.gif
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What is it exactly that they want to do?

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 09:52 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:09 AM)
I'm totally against it. I'm with ManUtd in this one.  wink.gif
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Me too!

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 12 2007, 09:04 AM)
What is it exactly that they want to do?
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On September 27 the federation will sit at Istanbul to discuss several matters. Platini wants to put forward the changes he wants to make in the Champions League (maybe he will decide to do it later on if he sees he doesn't have the backing...) and he's going to have his first real argument since he became President of the UEFA. These changes are for the 2009-2012 period. There are many ideas he wants to dish up, some of them are radical some are bloodless (for the G14 members)!

(The bloodless ones:) One of the measures he will propose will see the 75% of the UCL Final tickets go to the hands of fans and not sponsors and other... "engagements"! That is a good one... Moreover he wants the Final to be held only at 75+K capacity stadiums, a thought that will exclude most of Europe's stadia (and cities) but I think is right cause the Final should be played at a stadium as big as possible! Another one of these plain measures (and a weird one) is that he wishes the Final to be played on Saturday evening rather than Wednesday evening... he sees Saturday as a more... "family day"... or whatever!

But there are also big changes he has in mind and those will run into the G14 and the big federations! Platini's plan is not to cut the number of teams the big countries have in the competition but to make it harder for them to get into it and so to give bigger chances to other Champions to enter... the Champions League (In the draw a fortnight ago only 13 of the 32 teams were champions in their countries)! Platini wants the domestic Cup winners to be given a place in the CL too. Until now, 24 leagues oppose to this measure. English, and rightly so, are the greatest polemicists to this as the dynamic of the Premier League and the enormous TV contracts are threatened if the 4th League place does not mean a chance to enter to the CL! Some say the FA would like to see this measure be applied but they don't have the power to come against the Premiership administrators (?).

The strategy committee, in which the UEFA vice-presidents, the clubs, leagues and players take part, led by Şenes Erzik, will work up these thoughts and will propose their own measures to the executive committee on September 27. A proposal made by Umberto Gandini (Milan's representative and Organizational Manager) was to decrease the number of automatic qualifications spots to 20 and leave the other 12 spots up for grabs but Platini does not want to tail off the auto qual. spots!

To conclude, Platini, in the two days' congress at Istanbul will have to start the first big fight against a board he created himself and the committee that already blindsided him on the Euro 2012 issue...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 11:21 AM

I don't think it's a good idea, cuz in Italy the Moratti cup shouldn't be given any extra privileges.

Posted by: misha Sep 12 2007, 11:32 AM

At least it will make the Coppa more interesting. Big teams will go for it, especially if they are having a bad season in the league, like we had last year.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 12 2007, 03:04 PM

I think it's a decent idea.

And finally UEFA has a president with balls, for way too long the giants of European football have been protected. I personally don't see how a team that finishes 4th and wins nothing deserves something more than a team that wins a trophy.

But when you really look at the big picture, will this really change anything? Not in England and Italy at least, recently it's been Roma/Inter and the big 4 in England winning the Cup competition anyways, and how often do they finish outside the top 4? Hardly ever.

My overall opinion is that it will make each Cup competition bigger, as it will increase competitiveness with the bigger teams going for it.

Posted by: Portikins Sep 12 2007, 04:02 PM

Question is: Will G-14 allow Platini to do that? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:02 PM)
Question is: Will G-14 allow Platini to do that? rolleyes.gif
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Rhetorical...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 12 2007, 06:02 PM)
Question is: Will G-14 allow Platini to do that? rolleyes.gif
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The G14 don't have any influence in UEFA. They are just an organization that works from within ...

They might voice their opinions, but that is as far as it goes ... IMO, Platini wont change much, and if he did, it wont change Milan's targets in any way wink.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 09:37 PM)
The G14 don't have any influence in UEFA. They are just an organization that works from within ...
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Are you serious?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 09:55 PM)
Are you serious?
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Yes, why ?

I mean the G14 involve the biggest European clubs around, and they usually have a higher voice than the not so big clubs ... They try to rally things to their benefit, but in the end (what I'm trying to say..) UEFA aren't waiting for the G14 to agree with them wink.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:05 PM)
Yes, why ?

I mean the G14 involve the biggest European clubs around, and they usually have a higher voice than the not so big clubs ... They try to rally things to their benefit, but in the end (what I'm trying to say..) UEFA aren't waiting for the G14 to agree with them  wink.gif
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Oh, OK... just remember what happened the last time they threatened they'd create their own league! wink.gif

Platini is helpless before those guys! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 08:13 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:07 PM)
Oh, OK... just remember what happened the last time they threatened they'd create their own league! wink.gif

Platini is helpless before those guys! rolleyes.gif
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If ur referring to the super league thing ... It wont work unless UEFA agrees, which then makes it a legitimate league. Has UEFA agreed rolleyes.gif

Anyways, the G14 do have a voice, but t ain't as influential as it is believed it to be.

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:13 PM)
If ur referring to the super league thing ... It wont work unless UEFA agrees, which then makes it a legitimate league. Has UEFA agreed rolleyes.gif

Anyways, the G14 do have a voice, but t ain't as influential as it is believed it to be.
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Why won't it work unless UEFA agrees!?? They can't force them to do it under their rules... I just asked you to remember what happened. In case you don't, UEFA backed out and that says is all...

We just don't agree so there's no point arguing anymore since both of us have made our opinions clear.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:24 PM)
Why won't it work unless UEFA agrees!?? They can't force them to do it under their rules... I just asked you to remember what happened. In case you don't, UEFA backed out and that says is all...

We just don't agree so there's no point arguing anymore since both of us have made our opinions clear.
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No, no ... I don't mean that I should be right or u should be right rolleyes.gif

I used to be of the opinion that the G14 is the sh1t ... But just recently, I have come to learn that they need UEFA's approval if they want that Super League. Why UEFA's agreement ? Because if UEFA don't approve, all their matches won't be recorded (there wont be any record for their teams nor their players at FIFA). That is what I understood just recently ... Talk to me 3 months ago and I would have had the exact opinion that u have wink.gif

Now whether I am sure 100% about this, I am not. In fact I am not sure about what u claim ... But again, this is why we are in a forum rolleyes.gif


Why am I giving UEFA the image that it is BIGGER than G14 .. Because Kuwait has a problem with it's FA. We don't have a president for the FA nor do we have board members (Corruption) rolleyes.gif In simple English, the league has halted. And FIFA was brought in to intervene ... The whole issue is being worked at as I am typing ...

Hope now u understand where I got my assumption from.

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:39 PM)
Because if UEFA don't approve, all their matches won't be recorded (there wont be any record for their teams nor their players at FIFA).
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That's true... but the G-14 wouldn't care that much. UEFA have many more things to lose than records that's why I'm saying the G-14 have true power over them.

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:39 PM)
Why am I giving UEFA the image that it is BIGGER than G14 .. Because Kuwait has a problem with it's FA. We don't have a president for the FA nor do we have board members (Corruption) rolleyes.gif In simple English, the league has halted. And FIFA was brought in to intervene ... The whole issue is being worked at as I am typing ...
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I don't get it... what does this have to do with the G-14!??

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 09:01 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM)
I don't get it... what does this have to do with the G-14!??
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Well, I tried to sum it up ... But u had no clue in the first place tongue.gif

Okay, with all the chaos that is going on ... The newspapers keep us up to date, and there are several articles on what is going on etc ... a couple of months ago, 3 I think, an article was published about if the Kuwaitis don't reach an agreement with the AFC (or better yet FIFA), the league and national team would loose out status in the world of FIFA. The people behind the chaos are 4 people (who formed a coalition), each a president of his own club and they wanted to have at least one of them as an FA member. In this they gave an example of the G14 in Europe and the UEFA, and that if the G14 (with all its prestigious clubs) can't over rule UEFA then the 4 Kuwaitis need to back off from their demands (what I said above, that was what was written in the article).

Again, I am not here to assert anything on u, neither r u on me ... Rather, I want to understand so this is my contribution to help us understand cool.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 09:06 PM

But the chasm is big here... The G-14 ARE the CL... the competition won't survive without them!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 10:45 PM)
That's true... but the G-14 wouldn't care that much. UEFA have many more things to lose than records that's why I'm saying the G-14 have true power over them.
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Yeah they might have the power in terms of the best players in the world and the most decorated clubs around, u have a point there .. Other than that, UEFA is a part of FIFA. Something that is much bigger than European football, let alone G14 ... That is what I was looking at ... But knowing ur underlying love for Blatter and Platini, I know exactly why u stand by the G14 biggrin.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 12 2007, 09:16 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2007, 11:06 PM)
But the chasm is big here... The G-14 ARE the CL... the competition won't survive without them!
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Yes they are king.gif

That is why I said they have a voice much bigger than the smaller clubs. They are a legitimate organization and I agree, but they are playing in a UEFA competition under FIFA rules. That is all I am saying ...

I think the G14 huff and puff, but under all the hype, they need UEFA much more than UEFA needs them. The G14 help each other and all that, and they get their way with UEFA in certain instances ... But UEFA don't need the G14 permission if they plan to implement anything.

Posted by: dst Sep 12 2007, 11:12 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:16 PM)
That is why I said they have a voice much bigger than the smaller clubs. They are a legitimate organization and I agree, but they are playing in a UEFA competition under FIFA rules. That is all I am saying ...
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No they're not! tongue.gif Just kidding... I'm trying to say that the G-14 can survive without UEFA... it's UEFA that would have problems surviving without them! Thus, UEFA fear that if they pull the driving rein too much, the horse might kick them down... The G-14 do not want a competition of their own but if they had to do it, they would do it!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 12 2007, 11:16 PM)
I think the G14 huff and puff, but under all the hype, they need UEFA much more than UEFA needs them. The G14 help each other and all that, and they get their way with UEFA in certain instances ... But UEFA don't need the G14 permission if they plan to implement anything.
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Do not think of the G-14 as a number of strong clubs only. Football is money and everyone who earns from football wants the big teams in! Sponsors, TV broadcasters they ALL want the G-14 to be strong! And they are backing them up...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 13 2007, 01:02 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 13 2007, 01:12 AM)
Do not think of the G-14 as a number of strong clubs only. Football is money and everyone who earns from football wants the big teams in! Sponsors, TV broadcasters they ALL want the G-14 to be strong! And they are backing them up...
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This right here ... sh1t I think I am gonna quote u one day !!! The G14 are not just a bunch of football clubs, but the back bone of the financial footballing world king.gif And that is the weapon which they have. king.gif king.gif

But regulation is under UEFA as a whole ... And as I agreed before that UEFA would let the G14 get their way in certain instances (which could be attributed to financial gains..), they wouldn't necessarily need the backing of the G14 for anything.

Out of the article that Porty posted only Liverpool and United were the protesters. I don't think this has any bearing to bring in the whole G14 anyways, but rather they want to look after their own interests .. Keeping that 4th place open for anyone of them biggrin.gif


p.s. I hate politics and the whole issue revolves around politics. But again I do thank u for bringing up the issue about the $$ as it is VERY significant to European football today, especially where the G14 stand wink.gif

Posted by: Portikins Sep 13 2007, 03:29 AM

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PARRY CONFIRMS CUP PLAN OPPOSITION
Jimmy Rice 12 September 2007



Rick Parry has confirmed the club's opposition to plans for FA Cup winners to get a Champions League spot.
UEFA president Michel Platini is behind the proposal, which would see only the top three from the Barclays Premier League enter Europe's premier competition.

Parry said: "Contrary to the claim only Liverpool and Manchester United oppose this in England, all the Premier League clubs at the UEFA meeting did so, and this position is supported by the Premier League itself.

"It's not a question of self-interest by the big clubs, because if you look at the recent FA Cup winners, all were in the top four. It's just more of a lottery in the cup.

"There's a strong feeling the Champions League place should be based on Premier League performance.

"Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle all feel the same way."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156960070912-1348.htm


kurt what's up with Rick Parry and his stupid ties?



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Seriously. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dst Sep 13 2007, 10:11 AM

Of course the Premier League don't want that to happen...

And the tie in the second picture... it seems like he found that on a potato chips bag or something! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 13 2007, 02:59 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Sep 13 2007, 02:29 AM)
kurt what's up with Rick Parry and his stupid ties?

laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Seriously.  rolleyes.gif
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They really do make you wish you had no eyes sometimes. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 14 2007, 02:10 AM

QUOTE
G14 Oppose Platini's Planned Champions League Changes


G14 - Europe's most powerful clubs - will not back Uefa president Michel Platini's plan to give domestic cup winners a Champions League place.


The elite G14 group of Europe's top clubs, who this week announced plans to expand membership by the end of the year, possibly to as many as 40 or 50 clubs, have made it clear they will not support Michel Platini's to change the criteria for entry into the Champions League.

Uefa president wants to allocate a Champions League place to domestic cup winners.

But G14's general manager Thomas Kurth said: "We're opposed to giving cup winners a place in the Champions League.

"We're very concerned about the quality of the competition and the damage this could cause," he added.

Platini's proposals, which could begin in 2009, would mean that in England, for example, the Premier League's top three and the FA Cup winners would qualif for the Champions League.

His proposals would give 16 cup winners a separate qualifying route into Uefa's premier club competition, and an allocation of four automatic places in the lucrative group stages.

The proposed changes were discussed by Uefa's Professional Football Strategy Council last month, but after some opposition from the European Professional Football Leagues (EPFL), Platini deferred the final vote by Uefa's executive by one month.

The EPFL, which represents leagues such as the English Premier League, Spain's Primera Liga and Italy's Serie A, was given until the end of October to come up with alternative proposals.

Football Association chief executive Brian Barwick has described Platini's plan as a "perfectly reasonable suggestion."


Goal.com


And so it begins

Posted by: Locke Lamora Sep 16 2007, 10:39 AM

Go G14!!!

Posted by: Tennie Sep 18 2007, 12:45 AM

Hrm. I've got Sky Sports News (on the Fox Soccer Channel) on while I'm making dinner. Chelsea must either be very unlucky with injuries or very confident that they can easily beat Rosenborg. A number of the regular starters won't be playing (Drogba, Lampard, Carvalho, etc etc etc).

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 18 2007, 12:48 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 18 2007, 02:45 AM)
(Drogba, Lampard, Carvalho, etc etc etc).
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I think they are injured unsure.gif

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 12:50 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:48 AM)
I think they are injured unsure.gif
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Yep

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 18 2007, 08:45 PM

Half-time scores.

Champions League - Group A
HT FC Porto 1 - 1 Liverpool
8' [1 - 0] L. González (pen.)
17' [1 - 1] D. Kuyt

HT Marseille 0 - 0 Besiktas


Champions League - Group B
HT Chelsea 0 - 1 Rosenborg
24' [0 - 1] M. Koppinen

HT Schalke 0 - 0 Valencia


Champions League - Group C
HT Olympiakos Piraeus 0 - 0 Lazio

HT Real Madrid 1 - 1 Werder Bremen
16' [1 - 0] Raul
17' [1 - 1] B. Sanogo


Champions League - Group D
HT AC Milan 2 - 0 Benfica
9' [1 - 0] A. Pirlo
23' [2 - 0] F. Inzaghi

HT Shakhtar Donetsk 2 - 0 Celtic
6' [1 - 0] Brandao
8' [2 - 0] C. Lucarelli

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Sep 18 2007, 09:41 PM

Sheva equaliser looked the second best Chelsea player on the park... no doubt he will still get a hurrendous review from the English media rolleyes.gif

Still poor result from Chelsea, they really can't win without Lampard.

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 09:44 PM

FC Porto 1-1 Liverpool
Marseille 2-0 Besiktas

Chelsea 1-1 Rosenborg
Schalke 04 0-1 Valencia

Real Madrid 2-1 Werder Bremen
Olympiakos 1-1 Lazio

AC Milan 2-1 Benfica
Shakhtar Donetsk 2-0 Celtic devil.gif

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 09:57 PM

From the highlights of Chelseas game: Sheva played great and besides the goal was involved almost in every dangerous move, and gave good passes (Kalou missed 2-3 certain goals). Plus Chelsea was really unlucky not to score more goals in the second half, and wasted so many chances.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Sep 18 2007, 10:00 PM

Roooooosenbooooorg!!!
God, this was a good result.
The look on Abramovich's face...priceless.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Sep 18 2007, 10:22 PM

QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Sep 18 2007, 04:00 PM)
Roooooosenbooooorg!!!
God, this was a good result.
The look on Abramovich's face...priceless.
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if chelsea dont go far in CL they'll focus more on the league which is bad for arsenal, why would want that?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 18 2007, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Sep 18 2007, 09:22 PM)
if chelsea dont go far in CL they'll focus more on the league which is bad for arsenal, why would want that?
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I don't think anybody needs to worry about that.

Only 50% of Chelsea played today, the other half is still injured, once he comes back they'll improve. Top 2 in the league, QFs of every competition they enter, no worries.

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 11:36 PM

Best european scorers ever:

Gerd Müller 62
Sheva 60
Pippo 60
Raúl 59

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 18 2007, 11:42 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 19 2007, 01:36 AM)
Best european scorers ever:

Gerd Müller 62
Sheva 60
Pippo  60
Raúl  59
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Pippo will outscore them devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

p.s. I always wanted Sheva to be ahead of Muller, but I think I wouldn't like to see that anymore

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 19 2007, 12:42 AM)
Pippo will outscore them devilsmiley.gif  devilsmiley.gif  devilsmiley.gif

p.s. I always wanted Sheva to be ahead of Muller, but I think I wouldn't like to see that anymore
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I would smile.gif In the end there will be only one biggrin.gif

Sheva has more seasons to play than Pippo. It will be between him and Raul.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 18 2007, 11:53 PM

Your right about that, at least someone close to our Rossoneri hearts keeps that record of the highest scorer wink.gif

Posted by: misha Sep 18 2007, 11:56 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 19 2007, 12:53 AM)
Your right about that, at least someone close to our Rossoneri hearts keeps that record of the highest scorer wink.gif
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Yeah, after all, he scored most of them for Milan.

Posted by: Tennie Sep 19 2007, 12:18 AM

Hsm. A couple of surprising results today.

I didn't expect Chelsea to draw at home and I was thinking the Scousers would squeak out a win at the Dragao and finally end the English club curse there (no english club has won there).

I'm not /too/ surprised that Donestk won at home; they're a notoriously difficult team to beat at home. It'll be interesting to see if they can reproduce the form they showed today when they play at Parkhead or Luz or the San Siro. (With all due respect to Misha, I'm not too sure they can).

Posted by: Bluesummers Sep 19 2007, 12:21 AM

I love how 2 milan(sheva was for most of his career) players are in the top 3 scorers. I hope sheva and inzaghi top the list. Go milan, and good luck sheva. He is still my favorite foreward by far.

Posted by: misha Sep 19 2007, 12:30 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 19 2007, 01:18 AM)
I'm not /too/ surprised that Donestk won at home; they're a notoriously difficult team to beat at home. It'll be interesting to see if they can reproduce the form they showed today when they play at Parkhead or Luz or the San Siro. (With all due respect to Misha, I'm not too sure they can).
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You are right. Usually there is pretty big difference between how thay are playing home and away, but this season they spent 80M$ on transfers, including likes of Lucarelli and Castillo, and considering what I saw from Benfica and Celtic, they have a good chance to finish second.

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Sep 19 2007, 09:55 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 18 2007, 08:57 PM)
From the highlights of Chelseas game: Sheva played great and besides the goal was involved almost in every dangerous move, and gave good passes (Kalou missed 2-3 certain goals). Plus Chelsea was really unlucky not to score more goals in the second half, and wasted so many chances.
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He was, I'm pleasently surprised with what I've read in the papers so far this morning, a lot are praising Shevchenko saying how he and Malouda saved Chelsea from disaster.

I hope Sheva can kick start his English career now, it's really annoying how pundits go on about how good Drogba is when before last season they were saying he's useless. IF Shevchenko finds his form and the main Chelsea players don't get injured then I'd be sure of them winning it this season.

Posted by: dst Sep 19 2007, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Sep 19 2007, 11:55 AM)
IF Shevchenko finds his form and the main Chelsea players don't get injured then I'd be sure of them winning it this season.
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But is it a matter of form? We all know how great he is in the CL and we all know how great he used to be in the Serie A. But the EPL is a lot different, much more physical and requires different characteristics but his game has already been formed and it is difficult to change it at 30...

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Sep 19 2007, 11:41 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Sep 19 2007, 10:33 AM)
But is it a matter of form? We all know how great he is in the CL and we all know how great he used to be in the Serie A. But the EPL is a lot different, much more physical and requires different characteristics but his game has already been formed and it is difficult to change it at 30...
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I know what you're saying but I think last night he looked like the Milan Sheva whereas previous CL games he still struggled. Yes the EPL is different but this guy is one of the best in the world, the EPL still requires one thing - the ball to be in the back of the net, no matter what league you are in you're eye for goal doesn't go when you're that good.

I think it's down to confidence, I seriously feel Sheva at times thinks low of his ability at Stamford Bridge, if you don't believe in yourself you are useless in football. It doesn't help when for about a 3rd of the season you are being blamed for creating rows and making Chelsea lose rolleyes.gif

I can't see how the World's Best Attacker as he was at the time with us can suddenly turn to useless, it just doesn't make sense! That's why I still believe he will come good!

Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 19 2007, 04:25 PM

Has anyone read this yet ?

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/sw1.html



Just shows how much research these pundits do , should they really have the job ?? tongue.gif

Posted by: misha Sep 19 2007, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Sep 19 2007, 05:25 PM)
Has anyone read this yet ?

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/sw1.html
Just shows how much research these pundits do , should they really have the job ?? tongue.gif
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That shows arrogance and ignorance. Like he said in the article: it's Tabloid TV.

Posted by: Tennie Sep 19 2007, 04:46 PM

Unfortunately, it's usually the sort of attitude we also get in the US. Perhaps that's why I'm often happier watching football on the Spanish language channels -- I don't understand much of the commentary. smile.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 19 2007, 05:45 PM

although when ever i listen to english commentary on Serie A matches the English commentators usually scottish or Irish somtimes English are not bad they have some good information about nearly every player and dont critise to much they have to remember its not a Premier league match so there will be more fouls and stuff

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 19 2007, 08:38 PM

Inter are Loosing to Fenerbahce and Arsenal winning against Sevilla courtesy of a deflected Cesc shot

lol @ teh bEnEmAtA

Posted by: Locke Lamora Sep 19 2007, 09:24 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Sep 19 2007, 08:38 PM)
Arsenal winning against Sevilla courtesy of a deflected Cesc shot
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Posted by: misha Sep 19 2007, 09:39 PM

Barcelona 3 - 0 Lyon

Rangers 2 - 1 Stuttgart

AS Roma 2 - 0 Dynamo Kyiv sad.gif

Sporting Lisbon 0 - 1 Manchester U.

Fenerbahce 1 - 0 Inter Milan king.gif biggrin.gif Forza Fener!!!

PSV Eindhoven 2 - 1 CSKA Moscow

Arsenal 2 - 0 Sevilla

Slavia Prague 2 - 1 Steaua Bucurest

Posted by: Locke Lamora Sep 19 2007, 09:40 PM

Eduardo!!!
Its three!!!

Posted by: arivanjj Sep 19 2007, 09:41 PM

INTER!!!
THEY LOST wub.gif

Posted by: Tennie Sep 19 2007, 09:48 PM

wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif Fenerbahce!

Posted by: misha Sep 19 2007, 09:50 PM

Inter is cursed. No matter who wears their ugly jersey, they won't win a CL as long as Moratti familly is there smile.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Sep 19 2007, 09:53 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 19 2007, 08:50 PM)
Inter is cursed. No matter who wears their ugly jersey, they won't win a CL as long as Moratti familly is there smile.gif
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They lost their first CL match last year too, to Sporting i think.

I will be half shocked and half amused if Inter fail to qualify, early days yet

Posted by: misha Sep 19 2007, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Sep 19 2007, 10:53 PM)
I will be half shocked and half amused if Inter fail to qualify, early days yet
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They will qualify, but , as alaways, won't make it too far.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Sep 19 2007, 10:19 PM

funny how 4 of the top 5 scores in the CL all scored yesterday: pippo, sheva, raul, ruud.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 19 2007, 10:27 PM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Sep 19 2007, 09:19 PM)
funny how 4 of the top 5 scores in the CL all scored yesterday: pippo, sheva, raul, ruud.
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And Henry scored today, so that makes the whole top 5 scoring on gameday 1.

Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 19 2007, 10:48 PM

Good job Fenerbache keep inters champions league run short tongue.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 19 2007, 11:17 PM

hey guys i just subscribed to UEFA Champions league website for £30 pounds i can watch all the highlights and download highlights but when i finish downloading the highlights i open the media file which is .wmv and it wont run it comes up with one of those errors like i dont have the right codec ? can anyone help me please

Posted by: rhy_A4 Sep 19 2007, 11:20 PM

found the problem and it should work lol sorry

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 19 2007, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 19 2007, 11:50 PM)
Inter is cursed. No matter who wears their ugly jersey, they won't win a CL as long as Moratti familly is there smile.gif
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They were missing several players, i.e. most notably from the defence. But that shouldn't be an issue for them as they have depth rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Anyways ... We beat Fener 5 or 6 2 yrs ago, but this time around Fener have Zico on the bench. And he totally owned Mancini in terms of tactics; I mean the champions of Italy loosing to Fener, that is just too much !!

Inter will go through in the end, but at the same time they wont last in the advanced stages. Mancini doesn't have what it takes to enrich his team with a game plan to the level of Milan/Barca. He lacks too much IMO.

Sure he has a HUGE squad to choose from, but what good is that when you are up against master tacticians who can literally r@pe your team.

p.s. I hope they come up against any of United/pool/Barca/Madrid/Sevilla and loose BIG time devilsmiley.gif devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 20 2007, 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 19 2007, 10:52 PM)
Sure he has a HUGE squad to choose from, but what good is that when you are up against master tacticians who can literally r@pe your team.
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I think that's a very good point. Good players/depth means nothing if you don't get it tactically right.

Just look what Greece and Porto did in 2004 through great tactical work!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 20 2007, 01:09 AM

Just saw the Sporting-United highlights (I missed it earlier!) and I was very pleased to see Cristiano's reaction when he scored. Didn't overly celebrate and bowed in apology to the fans.

Posted by: dst Sep 20 2007, 01:16 AM

Arsenal were by far the most impressive team of Day 1! Although Sevilla did not play as usual (a little bit frightened, a little bit defense-minded), the Gunners' performance was one to remember! Truly great.

Roma were very good too but Dynamo is too week a side for any concrete conclusions to come out of this game...

Milan and Real were both great attacking-wise but both made one too many mistakes thus I can't say I was impressed all in all.

Barcelona were very lucky... and Lyon too awful!

laugh.gif @ The kid with the fake glasses in the SL vs MU game when the two teams first entered the pitch!
Great gesture from CR when he scored the only goal of that game (and a good one too) and a great response from the Lisbon crowd also!

laugh.gif @ Inter! You'll always walk alone... laugh.gif @ Maxwell too for the dribble he conceded in Fenerbahce's goal which by the way is my choice for goal of the week in the CL; magnificent strike!

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 20 2007, 12:27 AM)
And Henry scored today, so that makes the whole top 5 scoring on gameday 1.
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I thought Di Stafano was top of that list... or did you mean from those still active? unsure.gif

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