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 Apr 19 2007, 07:56 PM
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Berretti  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90  |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 19 2007, 06:53 PM) I agree with Theo, I can't see him ever being great, but he's at the right club to develop. Arsenal do a great job with youngsters. Villa have a few young players that could eventually break into the first team. Ashley Young, 21 (ST) Gabriel Agbonlahor, 20 (ST) Luke Moore, 21 (ST) Gary Cahill, 21 (DF) Liam Ridgewell, 22 (DF) They've all been England-U21 regulars in recent years and have shows alot of promise in our first team over the last 2 seasons. Craig Gardner, 20 (MF) Has also done a great job when he's been given the chance this season.  Yeah I've liked some that you've mentioned but apart from Young when you compare them to the likes of Lampard and Owen at their age they are no where near their standard. I'm not saying we are going to be completely useless but at the same time I can't see us being a nation in the top 10. |
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Apr 19 2007, 08:00 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Apr 19 2007, 06:56 PM) Yeah I've liked some that you've mentioned but apart from Young when you compare them to the likes of Lampard and Owen at their age they are no where near their standard. I'm not saying we are going to be completely useless but at the same time I can't see us being a nation in the top 10. Exactly, English football is in trouble. Nobody can see the next Lampard or Owen, and they're going to be 30 sooner than later. Our 'Golden Generation' is getting older, and like Portugal and Spain, we have no trophies to show for it. But at least they still have great young talent. When you compare the likes of Cristiano Ronalo and Fernando Torres to ewhat we have, it's no competition. |
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Apr 19 2007, 08:05 PM
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Berretti Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 19 2007, 07:00 PM) Exactly, English football is in trouble. Nobody can see the next Lampard or Owen, and they're going to be 30 sooner than later. Our 'Golden Generation' is getting older, and like Portugal and Spain, we have no trophies to show for it. But at least they still have great young talent. When you compare the likes of Cristiano Ronalo and Fernando Torres to ewhat we have, it's no competition. I know and Rooney is useless for England that's the only word for it bar Euro '04 to be fair. |
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Apr 19 2007, 08:08 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Apr 19 2007, 07:05 PM) I know and Rooney is useless for England that's the only word for it bar Euro '04 to be fair. Yeah, his record isn't too great for us. We need some players that will get us goals regularly. Rooney isn't that player. |
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Apr 19 2007, 09:16 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 19 2007, 01:41 PM) -Silvio has $12B. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -Agnelli/Elkann $2.3B. -Moratti family » ? (Anyone...?) In the Premier League: -Manchester United = Malcolm Glazer $1.3B. -Liverpool = $2B from G.Gillett + $5B from Tom Hicks. -Aston Villa = $7.6B Randy Lerner -Chelsea = Roman Abramovich $18.7B (probably half since... his divorce) ... And the list will continue to grow. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) when you tie in what his wife has from Walmart his family is worth a lot more than 2.1B |
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Apr 19 2007, 09:21 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Warchant @ Apr 19 2007, 08:16 PM) when you tie in what his wife has from Walmart his family is worth a lot more than 2.1B Seeing that list makes me feel like if we don't do something big in the next 5 years, we're destined never to win anything again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Apr 19 2007, 09:53 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 19 2007, 08:00 PM) Our 'Golden Generation' is getting older, and like Portugal and Spain, we have no trophies to show for it. But at least they still have great young talent. (IMG:http://static.flickr.com/45/185667554_1a2dcf799f.jpg) At least England have the little star on their logo. Portugal and Spain have 0, zero, niente world titles. Not even a final. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Apr 19 2007, 10:32 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 19 2007, 06:29 PM) That man exists!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 19 2007, 11:53 PM) At least England have the little star on their logo. Portugal and Spain have 0, zero, niente world titles. Not even a final. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My country is in an even worse state: we'll never even get a chance for it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 19 2007, 10:49 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 19 2007, 10:32 PM) My country is in an even worse state: we'll never even get a chance for it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You never know. In fact, you were/are the European Champions. At least have that title. Portugal can't say the same. |
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Apr 19 2007, 11:31 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 20 2007, 12:49 AM) You never know. In fact, you were/are the European Champions. At least have that title. Portugal can't say the same. Portugal has continuity. They are a worthy team. I think we deserved the Euro they way we played but the European champions should at least make it to the World Cup finals... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Your team was there also and had a respectable display, making it the semis is a great feat. I'd rather be in your case... I've told you before that titles is not what matters to me the most! There are other things like losing a final in your home and applauding your opponent... that would never happen in Greece! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by dst: Apr 19 2007, 11:32 PM |
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Apr 20 2007, 05:16 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 19 2007, 03:21 PM) Seeing that list makes me feel like if we don't do something big in the next 5 years, we're destined never to win anything again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) that's why i'm pushing for Bill Gates to take over (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Apr 20 2007, 06:46 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2007, 12:32 AM) My country is in an even worse state: we'll never even get a chance for it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) What Greece did in 2004, I think the best team to set foot in Euro 2004 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Simply amazing |
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Apr 23 2007, 06:49 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
If Portugal did not have Ricardo in goal for Euro 2004 and have Baia or someone, I personally think they would have wiped the floor with everybody and won it comfortably.
He just makes too many silly mistakes. |
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Apr 23 2007, 07:23 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 11,735 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Portland Member No.: 347 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 23 2007, 06:49 PM) If Portugal did not have Ricardo in goal for Euro 2004 and have Baia or someone, I personally think they would have wiped the floor with everybody and won it comfortably. He just makes too many silly mistakes. Ricardo is a poor/bad keeper. But an amazing penalty-killer. Oh, and Scolari had a problem with Baia so he chose Ricardo to be the #1. |
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Apr 23 2007, 07:38 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,192 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 23 2007, 06:23 PM) Ricardo is a poor/bad keeper. But an amazing penalty-killer. Oh, and Scolari had a problem with Baia so he chose Ricardo to be the #1. Yep, he's very good at penalties, and has a voodoo over England, whether it be at club level or international. Scolari looks like a real idiot not playing Baia now. I mean no offense to Greece, but they won the game on a bad error from Ricardo, Take nothing away though, the Greeks have won it, we haven't. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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