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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 07/08 _ 4/5/08 - Serie A - Milan vs Inter
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 27 2008, 07:19 PM
Week 36:
Atalanta - Livorno
Cagliari - Fiorentina
Catania - Reggina
Empoli - Udinese
Lazio - Palermo
Milan - Inter
Parma - Genoa
Sampdoria - Roma
Siena - Juventus
Torino - Napoli
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 27 2008, 07:29 PM
The Long Awaited Milan Derby - can't belive its finaly here!
We could more than take something from this one!
Time to teach inter a lesson! - We are Milan (not them!)
Posted by: Tennie Apr 27 2008, 07:36 PM
At this point, I'm hopeful about the match. Things seem finally to be working well for Milan -- even Bonera's putting in good crosses -- and Pippo is in blistering form.
The lower-case-m merda are still favourites, but I think things are a little more even than they would've been a month or two ago.
We've got a chance.
Posted by: Nova Apr 27 2008, 07:38 PM
so if Milan should level with Fiorentina , we get the 4th spot cause we drew 1-1 at home and we won 0-1 there ... right ??
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 27 2008, 07:39 PM
Definitely!! (wha Tennie said)
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 27 2008, 07:41 PM
Yea i believe so!
Posted by: Darunia Apr 27 2008, 08:40 PM
It's 50-50 IMO... it's about time we win a derby. Hopefully Milan plays their best...
Kalac
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Jankulovski
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kaka Seedorf
Inzaghi
hopefully Pippo can keep up his hot streak. If Janku isn't fit from the start maybe use Favalli (or even Bonera) on the left. Not sure if Oddo can play from the start either.
Posted by: arivanjj Apr 28 2008, 01:03 AM
yep a draw from fio and a win from us will take us forth place! 
Posted by: Darunia Apr 28 2008, 04:17 AM
Forza Cagliari!!!!!!!!!
(and Forza Milan of course!)
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 28 2008, 05:25 AM
no ibra right?
Posted by: Darunia Apr 28 2008, 06:35 AM
Correct. It's probably Balotelli-Cruz.
Posted by: amancik Apr 28 2008, 10:20 AM
This match will prove decisive indeed
I'm going for a 1-0 win to Milan bcuz we simply have to
btw, Pato playing in this game or not?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 28 2008, 12:50 PM
Here are the projected lineups from Gazzetta. It's early and subject to change, however.
Kalac
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Favalli
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kakà Seedorf
Inzaghi
Julio Cesar
Maicon Chivu Materazzi Maxwell
Vieira Cambiasso Zanetti Stankovic
Crespo Cruz
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 28 2008, 12:59 PM
Kalac
Bonera Nesta Kaladze Favalli
Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini
Kakà Seedorf
Inzaghi
Julio Cesar
Maicon Chivu Materazzi Maxwell
Vieira Cambiasso Zanetti Stankovic
Crespo Cruz
I hope we find a better option for the left back. Favalli nearly died of exhaustion against a relegation zone team yesterday. he won't be able to stop Maicon and others...
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 28 2008, 01:15 PM
Not playing Pato would be a terrible mistake... It's like benching Sheva when he was here. It's laughable. Unless he is still struggling with fitness issues...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 28 2008, 01:29 PM
Agreed. and I think if we want to win, we MUST kill the game before the half time. otherwise our tiredness and lack of depth will come back to haunt us, like it happened in so many games this season.
Posted by: Devillito Apr 28 2008, 01:40 PM
+1
We always played a great first half and "let chips fall where they may"
second half.Plus an episode of brilliant tactical changes by Ancelotti,
tired legs, lack of depth from bench,I doubt we'll win this match
Posted by: Tennie Apr 28 2008, 02:04 PM
For those of you who want to see Pato start, what sort of lineup do you envision?
Posted by: jefri91 Apr 28 2008, 02:21 PM
I really don't think Pato is going to start.
He'll come in either second half or last 20 mins depending on the situation of the game.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 28 2008, 02:56 PM
This match is being shown on Channel Five's Football Italiano programme (UK'ers only).
Posted by: Darunia Apr 28 2008, 03:11 PM
The same one we've used the past couple games (Inzaghi up front) which has resulted in a ton of goals. It's the defense I'm worried about.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 28 2008, 03:34 PM
Usually Ambrosini has to be sacrificed so:
Inzaghi -- Pato
Kaka
Seedorf --- Pirlo --- Gattuso
Janku -- Kaladze -- Nesta -- Bonera
Kalac
I know we weaken defensively as we're withdrawing a DM, but we'd definitely do better offensively. personally I believe we can succeed with this formation. remember that attack is the best form of defense
Posted by: morgoth Apr 28 2008, 03:35 PM
Humm, I don't think Carlo is going to risk anything by changing his formation 
Pippo is in great shape (8 goals in the last 4 matches) so he'll definitely start, and Carlo has no guts to put 2 strikers, he'll probably wait to be one or two goals down to throw Pato and maybe Gilardino!
Anyway, let's hope for the best. Forza Milan 
Posted by: morgoth Apr 28 2008, 03:35 PM
Arf double post 
Posted by: Devillito Apr 28 2008, 03:43 PM
Inzaghi -- Pato
Kaka
Seedorf --- Pirlo --- Gattuso
Janku -- Kaladze -- Nesta -- Bonera
Kalac
I would make only a slight change to your tactic zd,
Inzaghi -- Pato
Kaka
Seedorf --- Pirlo --- Gattuso
Janku -- Bonera -- Nesta -- Oddo
Kalac
Now, we are good to go!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 28 2008, 03:52 PM
Inzaghi -- Pato
Kaka
Seedorf --- Pirlo --- Gattuso
Janku -- Bonera -- Nesta -- Oddo
Kalac
Now, we are good to go!!
If Oddo is match fit, why not?
Posted by: KillerMax Apr 28 2008, 04:01 PM
Kaladze usually does good in big games... And Bonera is in much better shape that Oddo... So I wouldn't change that. Inter's defense is weak and if we exploit them, they will break. And Pato specializes in that, so I would put Pato and Inzaghi upfront with Ambro on the bench. Having an extra defensive midfielder doesn't mean we're going to concede less. If anything, we've learned that it actually is the opposite most of the time if you look back this season. We're at our best when we're attacking and Pato is our most offensive player along with Kaka.
Posted by: Devillito Apr 28 2008, 04:23 PM
It's true Max.
Unfortunately, Carlo did/do not realize it
I can see R7's point about playing 2DMFs and all
but IMHO Carlo's tactic is always too predictable and lacks of "VOILA' element..
Posted by: javierk128 Apr 28 2008, 04:39 PM
i´m just waiting to see who will be the inter defence that kaka will get injured
i think pato would play from the start, that way we can open inter defence. by the way, we would see how pato response in maybe the most important match of the season (to getting the 4th spot) 
Posted by: Tennie Apr 28 2008, 04:47 PM
I don't think Pato will start. I do, however, think he'll come off the bench at some point.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 28 2008, 05:11 PM
We always played a great first half and "let chips fall where they may"
second half.Plus an episode of brilliant tactical changes by Ancelotti,
tired legs, lack of depth from bench,I doubt we'll win this match
Juve match is the most obvious example of why we should have more than Inzaghi up front. we could have scored 3 or 4 goals in the first half with more attacking force, but what happened? we conceded the second half like we had done many times before...
Posted by: Minami Apr 28 2008, 05:13 PM
+1
Carlo won't go into such game that offensive!
he will probably put in pato (for seedor, if we're plying x-mas tree) if we're up at half time or just replace him for inzaghi.
i just hope pippo can show his form again against the merda!
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 28 2008, 06:01 PM
LOL @ the formations.
this is it no doubt about it.
--------kalac----------
bonera-nesta-kaladze-favali-
-gattuso-pirlo--ambro--seedorf-
---------kaka------------------
-------------------inzaghii------
4-4-1-1
janku is terrrible these days he wont start. ODDO wil come in when favalli will get tried and bonera will slot to LB.
Seedorf will also play a defencive role until we counter. kaka and inzaghi will be up front alone.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 28 2008, 07:35 PM
It may be best to throw on a super motivated, quick direct Pato late in the game (60th Min maybe) at a probably tired, slow Inter defence, that will most certainly scare them
Carlo knows what he is doing
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 28 2008, 07:51 PM
I agree. Stick with the same formation, that the players are comfortable in and are used to, and then throw on boy wonder, when it's around the 60th or 70th.
Besides this is a big game. I trust Pippo implicitly. And Pato-Pippo is an untested combination, which I don't want to try out, not against the merda especially. It's not quite the same as benching Sheva, because Sheva-Pippo was something else.
Check out Bonera at RB though... Wow...is he really growing into a Stam replacement??
Posted by: jefri91 Apr 28 2008, 07:55 PM
btw Pato still havnt proved how good he is against the big teams.
remember Arsenal? I hope he proves me wrong...
Posted by: dst Apr 28 2008, 08:15 PM
remember Arsenal? I hope he proves me wrong...
Pato (alongside God) was the only one that actually did something in those two nights. If our midfield was not on vacation he could have done more.
Posted by: weeeow Apr 28 2008, 08:18 PM
We need this win more than inter!
Lets hope Pirlo is hungry...
FORZA MILAN!!!
Posted by: morgoth Apr 28 2008, 10:35 PM
remember Arsenal? I hope he proves me wrong...
Pato was very good against Arsenal, and he already gave us 3 points against la Fiorentina. I believe he can be very good against any team, and reacts very well to the pressure
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 28 2008, 11:38 PM
Pippo is in great shape (8 goals in the last 4 matches) so he'll definitely start, and Carlo has no guts to put 2 strikers, he'll probably wait to be one or two goals down to throw Pato and maybe Gilardino!
Anyway, let's hope for the best. Forza Milan
I think it will be the tree formation. It has nothing to do with guts, this formation won a lot for Milan. I mean the tree formation shifts during the game to a 442 when possession is with Milan, hence there will always be two strikers
And with Pippo upfront, there is no need to worry
Posted by: acid911 Apr 28 2008, 11:44 PM
He reacts very well to pressure, yes, but he'll need to brush up on his teamwork skills, which come across as lacking when compared with someone like, say, Ronaldo. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep the ball, and create something for the rest of the team, as opposed to shooting long shots. He's got the skills and speed to do just that. That's his only apparent weakness, which he can improve upon.
But of course, he'll learn more with time and experience. He isn't even 20 yet!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 28 2008, 11:49 PM
Not vacation ... Seedorf and Kaka' seemed injured ... They didn't look close to being at 80% on the night!
Posted by: morgoth Apr 28 2008, 11:53 PM
And with Pippo upfront, there is no need to worry
I actually think it has to do with guts, playing with one striker is obviously more defensive than playing with two, especially since we don't have wingers!
Oh, and don't tell me you count Kaka as a striker because he's not and never will be, actually we don't shift to a 4-4-2 formation but to 4-4-1-1 if we face a team with strong full backs/wide midfielders/wingers, it's an equilibrium we must find or we get destroyed, so it's more a defensive reaction than something else.
Posted by: dst Apr 28 2008, 11:56 PM
He is not even 19 yet...
What about Pirlo, Gattuso and Ambrosini then?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 12:00 AM
Oh, and don't tell me you count Kaka as a striker because he's not and never will be, actually we don't shift to a 4-4-2 formation but to 4-4-1-1 if we face a team with strong full backs/wide midfielders/wingers, it's an equilibrium we must find or we get destroyed, so it's more a defensive reaction than something else.
Carlo Ancelotti has the experience and tactical knowledge, above all other Serie A coaches at the moment. The formation; 4321 is one which he is notorious for, hence it has nothing to do with guts, but how he can bring out the best his side has to offer on the pitch.
Then it depends on how you see it. A 4411 or a 442 ... Kaka' is no striker, but he has been used by Ancelotti as a second punta/attacking midfielder in most of the crucial games. He has integrated him into a new role as to give Clarence more freedom.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 12:05 AM
What about Pirlo, Gattuso and Ambrosini then?
Those guys were really off form
Please dont bring this game up again. Had our midfield been of form, who knows *sniff*
Posted by: morgoth Apr 29 2008, 12:11 AM
I don't agree with that but it's another story!
Changing his formation is having the guts, I'm not talking about the way he likes to play but about taking risks! As for bringing the best out of his players, I think he lacks a lot in that department, I'm 100% convinced that he has no motivation skills at all and therefore can't bring out the best of any player, Pirlo and Seedorf are a very good example
The fisrt one is doing exactly what he did two years ago (before the WC) and the second plays whenever he feels to ... 
Yes, but he doesn't give Seedorf any freedom when he puts him on the left side, Seedorf has more freedom and expresses himself in a better way when he plays behind the striker(s) ...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 12:33 AM
The fisrt one is doing exactly what he did two years ago (before the WC) and the second plays whenever he feels to ... Guts is when you take a team who's average age is well above 30 and go beyond all expectations and criticism to achieve something, that made Europe stand up and applaud.
Motivation ?! He brought the team back to life after Istanbul, that night the team was shattered, the season after that the team only got stronger. What more ?! Oh another ?! He took the team last season to European glory, when most other coaches and their teams would have not withstood the pressure.
What Andrea Pirlo is today, is because of Carlo Ancelotti. And Seedorf ? I mean, I cant criticize him, the man is (as Desailly dubbed him) a junction in the heart of the Milan midfield, most team would kill for a midfielder like him.
It is always easy to criticize my friend, seeing has hindsight is always 50-50. And I am not one to tell you agree with me or don't, I just hope you can see that there are different aspects that you need to consider.
Of course Seedorf has more freedom when he is behind the strikers ... With that said, you need to take into account that there is a balance in midfield that the coach needs to pay heed to. Something us fans don't necessarily comprehend.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 29 2008, 12:38 AM
Today's training note: there wasn't any. The team had the day off and will train tomorrow afternoon.
The lower-case-m merda have two days off and will resume training on Wednesday.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Apr 29 2008, 05:43 AM
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Posted by: dst Apr 29 2008, 10:31 AM
The fisrt one is doing exactly what he did two years ago (before the WC) and the second plays whenever he feels to ... I don't think Pirlo has motivation problems. Along with Gattuso he has the highest number of appearances by a mile (also considering the games he's played with the Italian NT) and I think it's tiredness more than anything.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 29 2008, 12:22 PM
acmilan.com's Italian page is running an article (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=65891) noting that this is Pato's first Derby and highlighting the first derby goals of such Milan luminaries as Savicevic, Shevchenko, and Kaka.
Carletto is also quoted on the ticker on the Italian page as saying that Milan have a lot to play for, whereas a draw will do for the lower-case-m merda.
Perhaps we will see two strikers?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 29 2008, 04:03 PM
Today's training has taken place.
Mostly the usual stuff today, including a series of one-touch and two-touch ball possession drills. Pippo did laps of the perimeter of the central field. Il Capitano was the only absentee.
Posted by: m1ke Apr 29 2008, 05:27 PM
Posted by: Minami Apr 29 2008, 06:28 PM
Any news how he is doing??
I hope he will be back soon!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 06:30 PM
I hope he will be back soon!!
I am very worried too
I hope he doesn't retire and continues with the team next season.
Posted by: Tennie Apr 29 2008, 09:10 PM
A postscript to today's training: Milannews.it is reporting that at the end of training today, Dida sprained his ankle. (Sorry, MizNelson!)
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 29 2008, 09:46 PM
(Sorry, MizNelson!)Barring a freak injury to Kalac, Dida was never likely to play regardless
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 10:08 PM
Oh my .. its like he cant handle to bench
Posted by: misha Apr 29 2008, 10:22 PM
We are going to beat them this time. Simple as that.
Posted by: morgoth Apr 29 2008, 10:40 PM
No no, that's not guts, in fact it has a little to do with the coach! It's the player who understood that if they don't play football, their season would be over in march. The only thing that Carlos could have done is asking for some pity because his job was at risk after the first leg against Bayern. It's also some luck, considering the draw, but who doesn't need luck in life?
Come on, are you serious? I think you're confusing the club's character with the coach's. We're talking about Milan here not some random club ... The team got stronger after Istanbul?! We (may be) had the same quality for a year, but after that we lost some great players and the quality of the play dropped a lot, so don't tell me the team got stronger, unless you're talking about the mental strength.
Yeah, Desailly is funny at times ... I know Seedorf is a great player especially in the great occasions and so is Pirlo, but you can't let someone who's not showing anything but cr@p on the field! Those guys needs to taste the bench, they know the coach too well, so they play only when they want to because they don't have any concurrence. This is no healthy for a team!
Oh, and what Pirlo is today (the superstar stature) is because of Carlo, yes but the talent was always there.
Don't worry, I'm done criticizing, I developed apathy regarding Milan, and believe me I considered more than one aspect before condemning our management.
Isn't it exactly what I was talking about?
I didn't say it was motivation, it's more of a desire. I honestly think that he's preparing to the EURO and doesn't want to get injured.
In another hand, it's true that he plays a lot, but you look at the way he plays, you'll notice that it's logical. He doesn't actually run like Rino or Kaka, that's why he tires less than the others.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 29 2008, 11:31 PM
Ok, please .. We are talking about top flight football here. The manager (coach) along with his staff are paid in millions each year to do their job (and we have no idea what they do from one sunday to another). It is not about who is the most risk taker or who is the least or gutless ... Each coach has a style of play. I mean, you cant watch Wenger's Arsenal and say ok I like how they play why cant Milan play like that ... You just can't Wenger adapts a one touch, fast tempo build up play with the ball on the ground. Ancelotti's Milan play 'chess', smart, slow tempo, highly tactical play ... Capello is that of a defensive coach etc etc ...
It is his style style. And despite this being very bad season (in comparison to what Carlo has given this club), he has done very well in giving back this club it's Champions League pedigree.
Yes, this is Milan. And yes Milan is the greatest club
... But still, referring to motivation, the coach brought the team back together and made them even stronger (of course mentally ). The coach is the first one to receive criticism for a season like ours and the first one to receive praise when he wins a trophy. It's either black or white from a fan's point of view .. And I'm not expecting any different from anyone here
... Just don't go full out on a coach who has brought us so much joy over the last six years .. Who knows, we might reminisce a couple of yrs down the road when he's gone, just like the time of Sacchi Oh, and what Pirlo is today (the superstar stature) is because of Carlo, yes but the talent was always there.
The talent was always there, but the position that Pirlo plays in now (the deep lying midfielder), that is all Carlo ... And as for Seedorf, yeah he tends to seem unmotivated at times. And I do sometimes wish he was on the bench ... But overall, when he is on form, he is one of the best midfielders in Europe.
Considering this the worst season of Carlo's reign ... I think he has done considerably well in his time here. I mean, Barca won the CL and La Liga in 2006 and have been dry for two years running, they have the best players in the world from the defense to the attack .. and their bench is very rich.
It's not a matter of had the management bought this player or that player ... more of a how much have we won. And no team has won as much as this in the span of Carlo's reign.
Posted by: morgoth Apr 30 2008, 12:03 AM
Of course every coach has his style, but what I'm trying to talk about are the changes you make when your original/preferred tactics don't work, when you need to make a substitution because your team is struggling, and in that matter Carlo has no clue at all. We all know Carlo's favourite formation is the tree one, but he always changes to a 4-4-1-1 at best you get the 4-4-2. Even now that he has Pato, he doesn't use him because he's afraid to play with 2 strikers (even against Livorno). Last summer he said he was working on a new 3 men defence, have seen it in the games? Of course not, even when we were losing to the likes of Atalanta he didn't use it! Why? do you think he didn't because Nesta-Paolo-Kala is a bad combo or because he was afraid to fail? My bet is on the second choice!
Yes, this is Milan. And yes Milan is the greatest club
... But still, referring to motivation, the coach brought the team back together and made them even stronger (of course mentally ). Again, I think it's like more than 70% due to the quality of the players we have (the starting eleven)
... Just don't go full out on a coach who has brought us so much joy over the last six years .. Who knows, we might reminisce a couple of yrs down the road when he's gone, just like the time of Sacchi Well, I think I never said or even thought that! In fact, for me it's 70% the management's fault. But what I can't stand is a coach who can't be bossy and sticks with his ideas (formations) no matter what.
Considering this the worst season of Carlo's reign ... I think he has done considerably well in his time here. I mean, Barca won the CL and La Liga in 2006 and have been dry for two years running, they have the best players in the world from the defense to the attack .. and their bench is very rich.
It's not a matter of had the management bought this player or that player ... more of a how much have we won. And no team has won as much as this in the span of Carlo's reign.
I know that Pirlo's position is Carlo's idea and I think it was his better one, but sometimes even if you like your players like your own children you have to have a strong character, and let them know when they're not doing well, and just like a father would do punish them if necessary. That's what Carlo lacks.
Barcelona is another story, they have some trouble makers and clans, their squad is not united like Milan is (and that's the main reason of our last year's success) so you can't compare them with Milan, it's another level of organisation. Having said that, I really think Carlo's success is due to the club's philosophy, to the quality of the players we have, to the unity that exists between the player ... etc the coach's skills have very little to do with our success, I think any other decent coach would have achieved the same things Carlo did. May be it's just me, but I'm quite sure about it.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 30 2008, 12:21 AM
This is exactly what I am trying to clear up to u
... What do you mean he has no clue ?! He needs to take into account the opposition's tactics, he has over a zillion things going in his head during the course of a match, he has to maintain a certain rhythm with the team on the pitch ...It's not like he sticks with the tree just because he doesn't know. He is a renowned coach; he does play with 3 cb when Milan have possession one of the backs pushes forward and three stay back.
Maybe you have a different idea in mind to the way Milan should play ... But that doesn't mean Carlo doesn't know what he is doing ... Not many coaches can do what Carlo did in the span of his time here.
If that is what you think ... Then by all means
Again, don't contradict yourself, this is Milan not Chelsea.
Barcelona is another story, they have some trouble makers and clans, their squad is not united like Milan is (and that's the main reason of our last year's success) so you can't compare them with Milan, it's another level of organisation. Having said that, I really think Carlo's success is due to the club's philosophy, to the quality of the players we have, to the unity that exists between the player ... etc the coach's skills have very little to do with our success, I think any other decent coach would have achieved the same things Carlo did. May be it's just me, but I'm quite sure about it.
That in itself is true ... But the way the team plays, the different tactical setups within the pitch is due to the manager. I mean, Galliani and Silvio are not stupid to employ any average coach and say 'here are 11 of the best in Europe go do something with them.' There needs to be a game plan a strategy ... Something Carlo has engraved into this very team.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2008, 05:31 AM
My opinions on Carletto are already known here...so I don't need to air it again. I'm starting to feel like a broken record...so I know how you guys feel.
I'm with Carlo, like LaPalma says 1899%.
Posted by: morgoth Apr 30 2008, 01:17 PM
... What do you mean he has no clue ?! He needs to take into account the opposition's tactics, he has over a zillion things going in his head during the course of a match, he has to maintain a certain rhythm with the team on the pitch ...It's not like he sticks with the tree just because he doesn't know. He is a renowned coach; he does play with 3 cb when Milan have possession one of the backs pushes forward and three stay back.
Maybe you have a different idea in mind to the way Milan should play ... But that doesn't mean Carlo doesn't know what he is doing ... Not many coaches can do what Carlo did in the span of his time here.
I'm not judging Carlo on what he thinks (I don't don't have that power
). I'm judging him n what he actually does, the substitutions he makes, the tactical changes ... etc So may be you're right, he knows a lot, but when he doesn't execute than it's more of stupidity (or guts) than being clueless!Oh, he never actually played with 3 CB's, he plays with 4 defenders (2 of them being Cafu and Janku) and when one of the wing b acks go forward the other stays at the back, so there are 3 guys a the back but he doesn't play with 3 CB's at all, the only time he did it it was against Barcelona (Group stage, 1-0) and it was more a 5-3-2 with Cafu and Sergio in the flanks.
Where's the contradiction, Milan having a bossy coach?
What was Sacchi, Cappello?
Yeah sure, but when it comes to decision, crucial ones, where's Carlo? What's actually the role of a coach? He's there for the tactical aspect and to motivate the players more than anything else, they have coaches for the training, the gym, a medical staff that follows their progression and health ... etc So he's role is to make the difference by setting up the formation and the tactical moves+motivation. Carlo did it very well for the first 4-5 years but then when he lost some key players he couldn't do anything, he was lost because he couldn't adapt, he became too predictable, had no creativity, that's what I'm talking about. I didn't even talk about the motivation issue, the emulation, and the strong character ... Do you remember when Billy said something like "Carlo cannot motivate the players anymore" do you remember the Seedorf and Kaka incident, I sure he's the only coach on the planet that could say something like that "Why should argue with the future ballon d'or winner?"
Posted by: morgoth Apr 30 2008, 01:17 PM
DP nooooooooo
My internet connection sucks, I'm sorry for the double posts
Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2008, 01:52 PM
So this morning's training has taken place (today is double training). After warm ups, the team divided into groups to work on specific things.
Bonera, Pato, Cafu, Pirlo, Gattuso, Gourcuff & Willy worked on exercises in the Sand Pit of Doom.
Simic, Nesta, Digao, Kaladze, Paloschi & Gilardino worked on the reduced pitch on sprints followed by crosses to the strikers.
On the reduced pitch, Seedorf and Kaka worked on a series of sprints and ifnally at muscle strengthening exercises.
The keepers worked with their coaches on keeper exercises.
Nobody else was mentioned by name, but there is an article about how the team will be playing without Il Capitano.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 30 2008, 02:32 PM
Well look ... The way I see it, the Milan board know better than any of us. They have done superbly for over twenty years now, and know the pros and cons of the management and sport aspects of the game at this level. Hence they know who to appoint as coach.
Sure you can have your go at Carlo and as I stated earlier I'm not gonna dictate how you should or you shouldn't ... You want to call him stupid, incompetent, unmotivated for the cause, gutless, or clueless .. Well that is your perspective and your free to think in whichever way that suits you.
But then again, hindsight is 50-50 my friend, and as much pulling and pushing anyone wants to do there will always be another point of view. Maybe it is more logical, maybe yours could be the more logical who am I to judge
We are mere spectators of the game, all we see is the team go onto the pitch from Sunday to Sunday, we see the team once every week and that is it. What happens between those Sundays we are the clueless ones We are the ones who sit in this forum and feed off of what the media throw at us. But under no circumstances can we really know what goes on from Sunday to Sunday.
Then when the Sunday comes ... Carlo has a certain interpretation of the game. While we sit back on our lazy boys, and assume we know exactly what is happening and Carlo must be dumb not to think the way we do 
.... "Why doesn't he play Gourcuff instead of that lazy fat @ss Seedorf?!" "Why is he still fielding Pirlo when he clearly isn't fit to run?!" "Look at that dumb guy, bringing on Broochi for Gattuso when we are loosing !! I cant believe this" "$@%*&" "Had this been Mourinho in charge we wouldn't be in this mess" .... And your criticism of the coach could vary from one opinion to another ... While we all sit back and chill on our lazy boys watching the game finish off, we seem to be all experts on how this team should be managed by now. And it is no longer a mystery (managing the team) when we all seem to have gathered enough info from the game on the Sunday and start criticizing the coach for not conveying our ideas into action.
The weekend ends and you sit there trying to orchestrate the best possible solution for the better of the team; this is how he should play .. field a 3-4-3 .. this player should leave .. three new names should come .. the coach should leave .. Galliani needs hair transplant .. and you get to add whatever spice the media feed you into your assumptions. At this moment you start to get a feel that the decisions are so easy !! Why can't Carlo think like you, me, han, dst, Tennie, Jerry Springer, etc ...
But with all this in mind, do you honestly have any clue as to what the coach is doing from Sunday to Sunday ? Do you know why players cost millions of millions ? Do you know why the coach along with his staff earn millions in preparing this team in the best possible way to be fielded on the next Sunday ? Do you know the fitness levels of the players ? and on and on ..
All I am saying here is that Ancelotti is in charge of the most title winning club in the world. And at this level, not any coach can achieve what he has achieved. The club doesn't entrust this team along with all it's staff to any average Joe. Ancelotti is a one of the most sought after coaches in Europe; I mean his achievements along with his reputation proceeds him.
You want to talk football, lets talk about players Let's talk about Milan vs inter ... But to sit here and criticize a world renowned coach, just because our thoughts are not conveyed by his actions, is not very constructive because in order for us to understand, we would have to manage a club first hand.
And yes I do remember when Billy said that a change of coach can only be healthy for the team. And look at where Man United are now. Then again, hindsight is 50-50
p.s. My friend ... This is just my opinion here. If you honestly believe that Carlo is a clueless bum then by all means, I'm not here to drag this issue on any longer
Posted by: morgoth Apr 30 2008, 03:12 PM
I agree with (almost ) all your post. You're talking about what happens between the games, yet I didn't talk about that, as I said above "I'm not judging Carlo on what he thinks" how can I? I'm only trying to analyse the situation, a problematic situation. I didn't call Carlo stupid, I said "If he has informations (we don't have) knows/sees thing we don't and don't use them to his advantage, than it's stupid" making a stupid decisions (at times) doesn't mean one is stupid!
So from your point if view, we fans shouldn't criticize the team, the management, the coach and the players? Of course not, if we do it, it's because we can't see the club we love in a situation that could have been avoided. I get pissed of when I see that Carlo on his bench, without pressure (from the management) whatever the score might be. I'm talking about logic here, and logic doesn't depend on the point of view or what someone might think. I say it's not healthy to run a company with that kind of statements "Ancelotti's job is secure no matter what the results might be", "why should criticize the future ballon d'or winner", "If I change my position on the field then it means that I'm the problem" when I saw Seedorf arguing with Carlo on the pitch it was a shock to me, of course Kaka, Seedorf, Pirlo, Kalac and even Ba are important to the club's balance and success, but does that give them the right to do what they want, this is called indiscipline. Of course, may be after the match Galliani or berlu went to talk with them and calmed the situation, but what do you think the players would think about the coach?
Talking about the Milan-merda, yes, in fact this is how we came to talk about Carlo, it started with the 2 striker issue and the guts remember?
P.S. I didn't say Carlo was clueless full stop, I said Calro is clueless when it comes to being creative, making subs and trying new tactics
P.S.2 I think I have a pretty good idea why the player are paid that much
Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2008, 03:45 PM
This afternoon's training has taken place. Standard drills, possession practice, practice game, and - this is new - special drills with the midfield and the LB/RB players. No player was mentioned by name.
Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 30 2008, 06:27 PM
is he gonna give them a day off?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2008, 06:33 PM
They had Monday off.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2008, 08:18 PM
Question: Is it really called sand pit of doom or is it what the fish doll likes to call it?
Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2008, 08:38 PM
Nah, Sand Pit of Doom is just what I call it. 'Sand Pit' is the translation from the Italian.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 30 2008, 09:26 PM
Why exactly is the sand pit damned?
Posted by: acid911 Apr 30 2008, 10:24 PM
You'll need to get in one to find out.
The exercises they conduct on it really takes everything out of the players. Builds and strengthens muscles, yes, but it takes much extra effort to move in a sandpit as it would say, on grass. Harder movement = more effort and stronger muscles.Think of it like when a golf ball is stuck in a sandpit.
Posted by: Nova May 1 2008, 12:51 AM
Sure you can have your go at Carlo and as I stated earlier I'm not gonna dictate how you should or you shouldn't
... You want to call him stupid, incompetent, unmotivated for the cause, gutless, or clueless .. Well that is your perspective and your free to think in whichever way that suits you. But then again, hindsight is 50-50 my friend, and as much pulling and pushing anyone wants to do there will always be another point of view. Maybe it is more logical, maybe yours could be the more logical who am I to judge
We are mere spectators of the game, all we see is the team go onto the pitch from Sunday to Sunday, we see the team once every week and that is it. What happens between those Sundays we are the clueless ones
We are the ones who sit in this forum and feed off of what the media throw at us. But under no circumstances can we really know what goes on from Sunday to Sunday.Then when the Sunday comes ... Carlo has a certain interpretation of the game. While we sit back on our lazy boys, and assume we know exactly what is happening and Carlo must be dumb not to think the way we do
.... "Why doesn't he play Gourcuff instead of that lazy fat @ss Seedorf?!" "Why is he still fielding Pirlo when he clearly isn't fit to run?!" "Look at that dumb guy, bringing on Broochi for Gattuso when we are loosing !! I cant believe this" "$@%*&" "Had this been Mourinho in charge we wouldn't be in this mess" .... And your criticism of the coach could vary from one opinion to another ... While we all sit back and chill on our lazy boys watching the game finish off, we seem to be all experts on how this team should be managed by now. And it is no longer a mystery (managing the team) when we all seem to have gathered enough info from the game on the Sunday and start criticizing the coach for not conveying our ideas into action. The weekend ends and you sit there trying to orchestrate the best possible solution for the better of the team; this is how he should play .. field a 3-4-3 .. this player should leave .. three new names should come .. the coach should leave .. Galliani needs hair transplant .. and you get to add whatever spice the media feed you into your assumptions. At this moment you start to get a feel that the decisions are so easy !! Why can't Carlo think like you, me, han, dst, Tennie, Jerry Springer, etc ...
But with all this in mind, do you honestly have any clue as to what the coach is doing from Sunday to Sunday ? Do you know why players cost millions of millions ? Do you know why the coach along with his staff earn millions in preparing this team in the best possible way to be fielded on the next Sunday ? Do you know the fitness levels of the players ? and on and on ..
All I am saying here is that Ancelotti is in charge of the most title winning club in the world. And at this level, not any coach can achieve what he has achieved. The club doesn't entrust this team along with all it's staff to any average Joe. Ancelotti is a one of the most sought after coaches in Europe; I mean his achievements along with his reputation proceeds him.
You want to talk football, lets talk about players
Let's talk about Milan vs inter ... But to sit here and criticize a world renowned coach, just because our thoughts are not conveyed by his actions, is not very constructive because in order for us to understand, we would have to manage a club first hand.And yes I do remember when Billy said that a change of coach can only be healthy for the team. And look at where Man United are now. Then again, hindsight is 50-50
p.s. My friend ... This is just my opinion here. If you honestly believe that Carlo is a clueless bum then by all means, I'm not here to drag this issue on any longer
Posted by: KillerMax May 1 2008, 03:22 AM
^^ So people actually read those posts...
Posted by: Minami May 1 2008, 10:18 AM
Of course
Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 1 2008, 07:44 PM
^^
+1.... Didn't you read the 'I sign away my life to the cause of internet posting' clause in the contract when you hit register?
This comes with the deal.
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 06:59 AM
+1.... Didn't you read the 'I sign away my life to the cause of internet posting' clause in the contract when you hit register?
This comes with the deal.
okay boyz
Posted by: Tennie May 2 2008, 11:46 AM
The referee for the game will be Rosetti.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 2 2008, 11:54 AM
Yeah, he's handsome
Posted by: Tennie May 2 2008, 03:53 PM
So the trash talking has started up before the game. Vieira and Matrix for the cugini and Seedorf and Gattuso for Milan. Oddsmakers in Italy are tipping Milan to win, for whatever that may be worth.
Today's training has taken place, standard pre-game preparatory training stuff. The article doesn't mention any players by name.
Posted by: Besfort May 2 2008, 05:08 PM
It will be the match of the year, I can see that from now on.
Two teams, have a great reason to win this match. Two of them want each other to stop their intentions.
Inter has won the last 5 derbies, and there's another reason for us to stop their recent record they have on us. They have also a better all-time record against us.
I'm pretty positive that Cagliari will hold Viola, and won't let them get maximum points. It doesn't matter if they get a draw or win, both of them are good for us.
Let's win !!! Forza !
Posted by: morgoth May 2 2008, 05:19 PM
Two teams, have a great reason to win this match. Two of them want each other to stop their intentions.
Inter has won the last 5 derbies, and there's another reason for us to stop their recent record they have on us. They have also a better all-time record against us.
I'm pretty positive that Cagliari will hold Viola, and won't let them get maximum points. It doesn't matter if they get a draw or win, both of them are good for us.
Let's win !!! Forza !
Are you sure about that?
Posted by: Besfort May 2 2008, 05:30 PM
My mistake.
The last 5 derbies, we won only one.
11.12.2005 Serie A Inter - Milan 3:2
14.04.2006 Serie A Milan - Inter 1:0
28.10.2006 Serie A Milan - Inter 3:4
11.03.2007 Serie A Inter - Milan 2:1
23.12.2007 Serie A Inter - Milan 2:1
All time records:
Matches played: 147
Milan wins 45
Draws 49
Merda wins 53
Goals scored - Milan 195
Goals scored - Merda 206
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 06:46 PM
okay boyzzzzzzz calm downn.
Posted by: rhy_A4 May 2 2008, 06:50 PM
Did'nt RosettI just referee a UEFA Champions league match can't remember which one tho
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 06:51 PM
abram fc vs usa fc
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 2 2008, 06:53 PM
We call them the Merda while they have won more derbies... let's show ourselves some respect by not calling them the Merda, if you get what I mean...
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 06:55 PM
its merda not Merda! And no they are merda to us and always will be!
Posted by: rhy_A4 May 2 2008, 06:59 PM
ah ok cool ty
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 07:00 PM
np problems boyzzzzzz
Posted by: Tennie May 2 2008, 07:01 PM
Yep, Rhy. It was one of the semis (didn't watch either so not sure which one it was).
(and you can have dibs on Rosetti, zd. He's not my type. )
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 07:03 PM
(and you can have dibs on Rosetti, zd. He's not my type.
)
why not! Hes very sexy! and it was liverpool vs chelsea which he officiated.
Posted by: Tennie May 2 2008, 07:08 PM
I'm still battling dst for dibs on Nesta, bluesummers.
And I wouldn't want zd to feel left out.
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 07:16 PM
And I wouldn't want zd to feel left out.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 2 2008, 07:35 PM
) [How about Pierluigi?
]
Posted by: Bluesummers May 2 2008, 07:39 PM
[How about Pierluigi?
]lol oh i see where your going
how about it mothertime? that suitable?
Posted by: Tennie May 2 2008, 08:09 PM
Enough of the diversions (and dst's the one who likes 'em shaved, so he says).
Checked Gazzetta and they're still showing Milan with a 4-3-2-1 with Pippo up front. The lower-case-m merda are projected to have a 4-4-2 with Cruz-Crespo in attack.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 2 2008, 08:12 PM
Cruz and Crespo...I dare say Nesta and Kaladze can handle them. If our mid-field shows up, we might be in with a slight chance. Mostly it's the mental dominance the merda have over us that's giving them the edge (at least in my book). Fortunately, Pato doesn't really stand for such ceremony. Neither does Pippo. I hope he does something really annoying and gets Matrix red carded.
Dayuuumn...I love Pippo.
Posted by: morgoth May 2 2008, 10:43 PM
Chelsky-Man U
Edit. Sorry the question was already answered
Posted by: Darunia May 2 2008, 11:27 PM
I haven't predicted many Milan wins this year, but I will this one. C'mon Milan, prove me right
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 2 2008, 11:33 PM
Matches played: 147
Milan wins 45
Draws 49
Merda wins 53
Goals scored - Milan 195
Goals scored - Merda 206
I didn't know they'd beat us more times than we'd beaten them!
Posted by: acid911 May 3 2008, 01:42 AM
Because there was a very dark time in Milan history (in the 60s, 70s and the best part of 80s) when Inter were the kings of San Siro, not us. It was only after Berlusconi took charge, and players like Baresi, Paolo, the three Dutch musketeers made their way to Milan that things changed for the good. We started doing well in the league as well as Europe.
And even though we've won a good part of our recent encounters (minus these four defeats), it will still take some time to get ahead of Inter in terms of head-to-head.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 3 2008, 01:48 AM
And even though we've won a good part of our recent encounters (minus these four defeats), it will still take some time to get ahead of Inter in terms of head-to-head.
Another thing ... During that time, internationale Milan was known to be followed by the high class people and AC Milan was followed by the working class. This was also in the presidency, Milan mostly recruited Italian players from the peninsula. internationale (as it's name refers to..) imported it's recruits from all over the world, hence it was a richer club all throughout it's history.
Posted by: Nova May 3 2008, 02:32 AM
Not to mention also supported by the Fascist Mussolini. They even were called Ambrosiana or something back then. merda is the perfect word to describe them.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 3 2008, 02:39 AM
Really !!
... They certainly have a dark history behind them
Posted by: Habitant May 3 2008, 02:52 AM
yep he dint want them to be called inter cuz that celebrates cultures of all nations when he was focused on Italian nationalism.
Posted by: Habitant May 3 2008, 02:59 AM
anyways i predict a draw 1-1 (milan coming from behind)
Posted by: Habitant May 3 2008, 03:02 AM
a little preview for the clash...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ah7f_1209519751derbymilanobykakanesta_sport
Posted by: acid911 May 3 2008, 05:09 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ah7f_1209519751derbymilanobykakanesta_sport
+1. Great video, Hab. Can't wait for the clash. And of course, anything can happen on the field, but I'd much rather go in with 2-1 or 3-2 for us. We're at our best and they are not. We should go for, and win at all costs. No can do with a draw!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 3 2008, 12:02 PM
The last 21 derbies with MILAN AS THE HOME SIDE:
Milan wins: 6
Inter wins: 8 (!)
What a shame... it's hard to believe they have won more games than us in front of our own fans, in our "golden" era.
Posted by: Tennie May 3 2008, 12:24 PM
Slight change in the probable lineups: they're now projecting Balotelli to start in place of Crespo for the lower-case-m merda.
Posted by: Tennie May 3 2008, 02:02 PM
Carletto's held his pre-game press conference. Lots of talk about how important derbies are, how the home crowd will give Milan a boost, etc etc etc.
He stated that he'll start the same lineup that started against Livorno.
(nb, the Milan ultras are calling for all the home fans -- and this game IS sold out -- to wear red & black, bring their banners & scarves, and to 'be the twelfth man' for the full 90 minutes).
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 3 2008, 02:04 PM
He stated that he'll start the same lineup that started against Livorno.
(nb, the Milan ultras are calling for all the home fans -- and this game IS sold out -- to wear red & black, bring their banners & scarves, and to 'be the twelfth man' for the full 90 minutes).
Forza Milan !!
Posted by: arivanjj May 3 2008, 02:50 PM
He stated that he'll start the same lineup that started against Livorno.
(nb, the Milan ultras are calling for all the home fans -- and this game IS sold out -- to wear red & black, bring their banners & scarves, and to 'be the twelfth man' for the full 90 minutes).
Posted by: Tennie May 3 2008, 04:04 PM
Call-ups for the lower-case-m merda:
PORTIERI: Toldo, Julio Cesar;
DIFENSORI: Zanetti, Maxwell, Maicon, Burdisso, Materazzi, Rivas, Chivu;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Stankovic, Jimenez, Vieira, Cambiasso, Solari, Maniche, Pelè;
ATTACCANTI: Cruz, Crespo, Suazo, Balotelli.
Of those called up, Stankovic did separate work after the initial warm up today.
Posted by: Besfort May 3 2008, 04:56 PM
If Merda wants to have Balotelli in starting line up, then I'll be up for Pato too, and prove them who has a better whizkid. They still think that he is better than our prodigy.
Posted by: Tennie May 3 2008, 05:03 PM
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
Call ups
MILAN-INTER: I CONVOCATI ROSSONERI
03/05/2008
MILANELLO - Sono 21 i convocati rossoneri per domani:
Fiori, Kalac, Offredi
Bonera, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Serginho
Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà , Pirlo, Seedorf
Gilardino, Inzaghi, Paloschi, Pato.
This week, Kaka is a midfielder.
Giocatori indisponibili (Injured players): Dida, Maldini, Emerson, Ronaldo.
Giocatori non convocati (not called up): Cafu, Digao, Simic
Posted by: jefri91 May 3 2008, 06:13 PM
kaka as midfielder? so we playing with 2 strikers
Posted by: Darunia May 3 2008, 06:39 PM
Not necessarily, I still expect Pippo to be up there on this own.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 3 2008, 07:20 PM
No Maldini, that isn't the worst thing ever after the last derby!
Posted by: m1ke May 3 2008, 07:24 PM
Carlo Ancelotti is well aware the derby will decide whether Milan’s season is a failure and hands the reins to SuperPippo Inzaghi.
“I have no doubts, the same line-up that played against Livorno will start against Inter,†revealed the Coach.
That 4-1 victory boosted confidence and took them to within two points of Fiorentina in fourth place, so Clarence Seedorf and Kaka again support Inzaghi, plus Daniele Bonera and Giuseppe Favalli as full-backs.
“Inzaghi could well be decisive once again. The team is in good shape and we are in the ideal condition to take on this very difficult and important derby.
“We are convinced that we will do very well. Without being unbalanced, we want to impose our tempo on Inter. It is going to be the most important crossroads, although we must then beat Napoli and Udinese too.â€
A win would mathematically secure the Scudetto for Inter, but Ancelotti feels a Champions League spot is more of a motivator in this situation.
“The target up for grabs is very important for us, as we want to enter the Champions League and have another go at a competition that has given us a great deal. Perhaps for Inter there is not that sense of urgency, as they have another two rounds to get the points they need.â€
The Nerazzurri are six points clear of Roma with three games to go and need only the mathematical certainty to start celebrating.
Watching the disappointing spectacle of the Champions League semi-finals, the tactician who lifted the trophy last season admits there were regrets.
“When we faced Arsenal in the second round we were not at our best. It’s a shame, as we could have gone a long way this year, too.â€
However, Ancelotti does not forget Inter have won the last three derby meetings on the trot.
“They have not been playing to a high quality lately, but got their results through grit and character,†he continued.
“We will be facing a very physically strong side who are dangerous in the air and on set plays. We are back to playing the way we know how and I think that is our best weapon in this battle.â€
Milan have generally tried to avoid commenting on the sex and extortion scandal that has engulfed Ronaldo this week, though Ancelotti did let something slip.
“I care about him and it’s a shame. Certainly it wasn’t his finest hour, but I am not going to judge people’s private lives.â€
Posted by: Bluesummers May 3 2008, 08:25 PM
carlo please STFU! I hope we win and i hope we qualify for 4th. Otherwise 
Posted by: IoRDanCHo May 3 2008, 10:42 PM
It's my birthday today and they will win it for me! I hope so!
That will be my biggest gift!
Posted by: Darunia May 3 2008, 10:46 PM
My b-day is on Wed and all I want is a derby win!
Posted by: The Stinger 21 May 4 2008, 05:19 AM
My bigges fear is our defender they always waste the points, even nesta he is not as before.
I hope that milan win this match and in the mercato we must strength our defence line.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 08:50 AM
I hope that milan win this match and in the mercato we must strength our defence line.
Nesta just is prone to concentration lapses when we play the small team, he's always been flawless for us in the big matches no matter what. But I am worried about Favalli, Zanetti will probably tear him to shreads on the left flank. Kalac and Kala as always will probably make a mistake or two, hopefulle they won't cost us the game.
Anyway, no matter what FORZA MILAN!!!! Lets hope they go out there with fire under their @sses, I want this derby win more then I actually want 4th spot
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 10:55 AM
So do I, Han. I'd really like to see the ragazzi beat the merda.
I lurked on a merda board last night to see what their feelings on the match were. While some were predicting a 4-1 win for them, there were others who were worried about the leaky state of the merda defense (?!) and the fact that they felt Milan were on form. Overall, they thought that the merda would win, but there were doubters.
Posted by: aLbErTo May 4 2008, 11:20 AM
i'd say :
kalac
bonera-nesta-kaladze-favalli
gattuso-pirlo-ambro
kaka-seedorf
inzaghi
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 11:55 AM
Good. Now all we need to do is believe in ourselves.
Can't wait for the match to start, which hopefully should in the next there hours, give or take.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 12:14 PM
^^
I believe the team will give their all but I'm afraid it's not enough. tbh I'd be very happy with a draw...
Posted by: aLbErTo May 4 2008, 12:38 PM
we'll win it...seedorf & pirlo will score
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 12:49 PM
I lurked on a merda board last night to see what their feelings on the match were. While some were predicting a 4-1 win for them, there were others who were worried about the leaky state of the merda defense (?!) and the fact that they felt Milan were on form. Overall, they thought that the merda would win, but there were doubters.
Well personally I do think that we're in better form then they are, as for the defence, I'm more worried about our's then their's. We've been leaking a goal in every game for the last few months, while they've been scraping through games thatnks to their defence.
So right now I think it's up in the air, while they have been struggling to score without Zlatan but still manageing to win because their defence has been playing well. Our situation is completely different since Kaka, Seedorf and Pippo have been on fire but our defence has been really poor.
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 01:10 PM
MILAN-INTER: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
04/05/2008
MILAN: Kalac; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà , Seedorf; Inzaghi.
INTER: Julio Cesar; Maicon, Rivas, Materazzi, Chivu; Vieira, J. Zanetti, Cambiasso; Maniche; Cruz, Crespo.
FORZA MILAN
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 01:13 PM
I want a 6-0 !
Forza Milan !
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:16 PM
Pato... 
You're going to regret it, Carlo!! I can already see Carlo trying to do something by desperately fielding Pato in the 2nd half
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:16 PM
Forza Milan !
Dream on my friend...
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 01:17 PM
You're going to regret it, Carlo!! I can already see Carlo trying to do something by desperately fielding Pato in the 2nd half
Pippo's on form, why should he regret his fielding??
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 01:19 PM
Dream on my friend... Well, it was worth a try
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 01:19 PM
A single goal separates a draw and a win. And if you go in with the right mindset that goal can always come. It's just a matter of believing, which as you mentioned, should be in no short supply in the team.
We have a better tactical XI than Inter (and have for some time) and they know that. For some weired reasons the last few derbies have been decided in the mind.
I can't do with a draw - even if Fiorentina loses, we'd still be two behind with two games to play. And that's not at all comfortable. Go all out for the win, lads! As our resident Sheik said, 6-0 or nothing.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:20 PM
We should have played 4312... but that's Carlo... superdefensive all the time...
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 01:24 PM
got what you meant!
i though you wanted to start with pato instead of inzaghi...
perhaps he wants to look what the game goes before he starts too offensive.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:26 PM
We have a better tactical XI than Inter (and have for some time) and they know that. For some weired reasons the last few derbies have been decided in the mind.
I can't do with a draw - even if Fiorentina loses, we'd still be two behind with two games to play. And that's not at all comfortable. Go all out for the win, lads! As our resident Sheik said, 6-0 or nothing. Definitely. our problem in th last few derbies, aside from lack of depth and having a few oldmans, has been psychological and I'm still not convinced if it's solved... I think our first XI is as good as theirs... but look at how Cambiasso and Gattuso have been performing for Inter and Milan respectively... being on the top for two years has surely given them the confidence they lacked in the last 15 years...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 01:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6nSft4R2tw
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:27 PM
i though you wanted to start with pato instead of inzaghi...
perhaps he wants to look what the game goes before he starts too offensive.
No!
of course not. Pippo is on devastating form. why would I
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 01:28 PM
FORZA MILAN
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 01:30 PM
of course not. Pippo is on devastating form. why would I that's what I was wondering, when you said carlo would regret it to not fielding pato...
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 01:40 PM
They're a better team than us, they know a win against us will win them the title, they couldn't have even dreamed of a better way to win the league, they'll be just as up for it as us.
Milan 1-3 Inter.
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 01:43 PM
Milan 1-3 Inter.
and we know a win against them can only keep our hope of qualigying gor next year UCL so i think it is not going to be that simple and there is not much differnce between our playing 11 and inter's today i mean in term of quality
Posted by: Devillito May 4 2008, 01:44 PM
U r cruel man!!
Prediction: 3-2 Milan won!!
Posted by: Il Capitano May 4 2008, 01:45 PM
I'm watching the interviews before the match and Materazzi said that his son is a milan fan and his son wanted to wear the rossoneri shirt in the stands but he did not allow it.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 01:46 PM
Milan 1-3 Inter.
Comparing just the starting 11, I think it evens itself out, as a squad yes they are better then us.
We know that if we lose this then we can kis 4th spot goodbye and we also know that if we allow them to win this they'll win the league.
So imo i'ts evenly poised for both teams. I'm not going to predict any results, but hopefully we'll go out there and play a good game, that's all I want from our team, is to play a good game, if by any chance we los because of some freak goal like we did in the first game then there's nothing to do but to say we tried
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 01:46 PM
It's about to start !!!
San Siro is on FIRE !!
Kick some merda @ss!!!
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 01:46 PM
that must be hard for his dad
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 01:47 PM
Prediction: 3-2 Milan won!!
Not cruel, I just say what I think. There's no point in predicting a Milan win when I think there's little chance of it happening.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 01:49 PM
Wait!!! Are you trying to use that reverse jinx thing Jack used to swear by last season?
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 01:50 PM
i am watching the build up on 5 that is also qute gud
Posted by: fresh_prince7 May 4 2008, 01:51 PM
Is there a HQ link for this game in english?
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:52 PM
I predict a 2-2...
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:55 PM
My heart is about to explode!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri May 4 2008, 01:58 PM
Forza Milan !
I'd be happy with 1-0
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 01:59 PM
Jam packed SanSiro
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 01:59 PM
Forza Milan
Posted by: I_Rossoneri May 4 2008, 02:00 PM
TIME TO START BELIEVING
FORZA MILAN
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:00 PM
Pirlo...
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 02:02 PM
Is it just me, or do night time derby games just feel better? I think they lose their specialness when it's all sunny.
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:03 PM
Wow. Looking at the merda lineup. Maniche playing in the trequartista position? odd. Stankovic didn't pass the fitness test apparently. Ah...okay, he's man-marking Pirlo.
Forza Milan!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:03 PM
I think we can win
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 02:03 PM
+1
Posted by: fresh_prince7 May 4 2008, 02:03 PM
LETS SMOKE EM' MILAN!
KAKA' WILL LIGHT IT UP!
PATO WILL FINISH EM OFF!
FORZA MILAN!
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:06 PM
Anyone care to wager whether or not the game ends with 22 players on the pitch? The cugini are getting the nasty elbows in already.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:07 PM
How I wish San Siro was always like this...
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:07 PM
hate seedorf when he tries these specilities of his own
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:09 PM
We can't even get close to their goal
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:10 PM
Shot of Il Capitano (with son Christian) in the stands.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:11 PM
And neither could they
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 02:12 PM
Maldini is playing??
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:13 PM
we should have played pato for seedorf
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:13 PM
Don't shoot for god's sake!!!! we're embarrassing!!
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:15 PM
Nah, he's just in the stands.
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:16 PM
Don Silvio in the stands with Galliani.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:16 PM
Why is Ambro playing in Pirlo's position, he can't make a pass that is more then 1 meter for god's sake!!!!
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:16 PM
rivas will be their week link
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:17 PM
Rivas yellow. forza Kaka!
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:17 PM
Maniche is man-marking Pirlo, han. It's leaving Ambro with more space/freedom. It'd be better if it were the other way around, I agree, but...
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:18 PM
Riva's think he's playing American football here
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:18 PM
WTF why are they shooting on every opertunity
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:19 PM
We're playing better...
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:20 PM
shhit pippo
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:20 PM
Oooooo Inzaghi almost !!!!
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:20 PM
Definately, starting to find our feet and increasing the tempo
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:20 PM
GOD> Inzaghi almost!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 02:20 PM
Pippo 1-on-1, hit it straight at Julio Cesar!
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 02:21 PM
CAGLIARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:21 PM
Milan are pouring on them !!!
Come on Milan lets take out the garbage !!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:21 PM
CAGLIARI????? WHAT?????
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:22 PM
This is what irks me about Pippo, he manages to miss the easiest of chances!!!!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 02:22 PM
They lead Fiorentina 1-0.
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 02:23 PM
THEY SCOREDDDD!!!
cag 1 - 0 fio
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:24 PM
Inter's height advantage over us is really a disadvantage, didn't make use of any one of our corners
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:24 PM
My god... unbelievable!
What a through pass by Kaka... simply world class... Inzaghi didn't do well.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:25 PM
Rivas should have already been sent off by now
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:25 PM
Inzaghi given offside. 
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:26 PM
he aimed the ball imo
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:27 PM
Rivas injures Favster. Yeah, I'm not sure it'll end with 22 guys on the pitch.
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:33 PM
Gee, inter are playing like garbage. I guess trying to live up to their name.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:33 PM
Too bad we can't break them down
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:34 PM
So far it is all Milan !
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:34 PM
Favalli is soooo slow...
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:35 PM
that has been in most of the games this season but still
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:35 PM
OMG OMG !!! Pippo allmost !!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:35 PM
FVCK YOU INZAGHI!! O MY GOD
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 02:35 PM
Great to hear !!!
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:36 PM
F@CKEN INZAGHI!!!!
Put it in the goddamn net when you get the chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 02:39 PM
Janku warming up. That foul by Rivas looks to have hurt Favster more than I originally thought.
Posted by: Minami May 4 2008, 02:40 PM
It better to play with Janku anyways...or is Favalli doing so good today?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:41 PM
And every one of teh merda is taking their turn on him ... Last one was Maniche
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:41 PM
Favalli out
Janku in
thank god!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:42 PM
He is good, and is better than Janku in terms of defending. Plus, Janku hasn't played in so long.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:43 PM
Haha Kaka' went in on Matrix
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:44 PM
Janku on for Favster.
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:46 PM
This is the best stream I've found. The quality's a tad bit blurry, but no buffering problems whatsoever:
http://bitcast-d.bitgravity.com/justintv/static/widgets/jtv_live.r6134.swf?channel=psn_1
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:46 PM
OMG !!!! Pippo again !!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:46 PM
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 02:47 PM
inzaghi man what is he doing
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:47 PM
Materazzi, you piece of crap.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:47 PM
I swear to God .. There is no player like him that is in the right place at the right time !
There is none like him !
Com'on Pippo !
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:47 PM
HT
0-0
Pato MUST come in!!
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:49 PM
Oh, my God! What a miss.
Posted by: jefri91 May 4 2008, 02:49 PM
AHHHHH JUST GO IN
Posted by: fresh_prince7 May 4 2008, 02:49 PM
http://bitcast-d.bitgravity.com/justintv/static/widgets/jtv_live.r6134.swf?channel=psn_1
Is it in english?
I've tried TVU and bet365.. tvu doesnt lag but can barely see the ball..and bet 365 is clear but it lags.. typical :S
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 02:49 PM
There is none like him !
Com'on Pippo !
I agree, 100%. but he wasted a few golden opportunities. can't say he was good.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:50 PM
We need to get Pato on in the second half, Pippo has missed a lot of chances we could have been 3 up by now. And Pato will give us that something extra upfront.
Other then that I have nothing to complain about, we're playing a great game so far
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 4 2008, 02:50 PM
FFS Inzaghi!
two clear chances missed by him. We should be 2-0 up by now.
Whats the point of brilliant movement if you arent going to convert it?
If it was Gilardino missing that he would have been crucified but we know people on this board have double standards
Pato needs to come on at some point
Pirlo's set pieces have been poor
Bonera doing well at RB, Nice to see Janku back too
Defence doing well
Posted by: jefri91 May 4 2008, 02:50 PM
btw wat was the curva sud showing??? The channel didnt give a clear view on it
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:52 PM
He was very good !! But unlucky. The final touch, it's hard to say, but overall he was very dangerous!
Overall, the first half was all Red and Black
Let's hope the second half Milan go in with fire in their eyes and convert the coming chances
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:52 PM
Who Pippo or Materazzi?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 4 2008, 02:53 PM
Dont know if its been mentioned but Fio are loosing, it good but even then we are still -1.
We need Fio to slip up again if we dont win this
Posted by: Il Capitano May 4 2008, 02:53 PM
fvck should be one goal up.
pippo forgot to bring the goal scoring shoes att home.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:53 PM
Truer words have never been said.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 02:54 PM
pippo forgot to bring the goal scoring shoes att home.
He's putting them on in the locker room right now
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 02:54 PM
It's yet to be seen whether we can maintain the same intensity in the second half.
If so we'll stand in with a very good chance.
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 02:57 PM
If so we'll stand in with a very good chance.That's what I'm really worried about right now
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 02:59 PM
that's because people are reminded of all the horrible games before and find themselves watching it over and over again.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 03:00 PM
Spot on.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:00 PM
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 4 2008, 03:03 PM
Sampdoria are destroying Roma, only a matter of time before they score. even if we beat Inter they might end up clinching the scudetto
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:03 PM
Yeah well Pippo, aside from this little hot streak he's been on for these past few weeks, has had more then a few terrible games for us, especially these past 2 seasons, he's missed dozens of chances like he's missed today.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 03:04 PM
Unfortunately past games have no bearing on this. Pippo has had 2 very easy chances and missed them both. Another chance he maybe should have scored too. Simply not good enough for a top team like Milan.
Posted by: jefri91 May 4 2008, 03:04 PM
wat did the milan shows show ???
the curva sud????
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:06 PM
Forza Milan !
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 03:08 PM
well i don't think you can expect him to finish off every chance he gets... but surely Pippo's been a great asset to the team whereas Gila has simply been NOT!
BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:08 PM
That's what has been keeping Milan back for these past 3 years, relying on loyalities and making decisions with our hearts rather then our minds.
That is why players like Sergio, Cafu, Favalli and Pippo are still at Milan, and we can't seem to look to the future
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 03:09 PM
CAGLIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARI
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
Cagliari score a second. Comon Milan !!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
GGGGGOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssss
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
Again, great asset to the team in the PAST.
And I'm not just saying this to defend Gila because I am one who admits he has been a disappointment toMilan, but the double standards we have towards players who have been great for us in the PAST
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
PIPPO!
I really do have the kiss of death, don't I..
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
Fio score straight after
PIPPO
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
PIPPO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
INZAGHI!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:10 PM
PIPPO INZAGHI
SUPER PIPPO INZAGHI !!! IN YOUR FACE !
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:11 PM
I can't believe we're getting the fourth place hold on Milan
Posted by: jefri91 May 4 2008, 03:11 PM
ow my voice
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:11 PM
Maldini in the stands!
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:11 PM
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:11 PM
PIPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I hope there's no hard feelings
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:12 PM
kurt, you really do have the kiss of death
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:13 PM
hold on MilanYou mean merda hold on
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:13 PM
NOW WHATEVER YOU DO LADS, DON'T CONCEDE!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:13 PM
Oooooo Seedorf witha screamer ... Inches off the top bar
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
bte, since nobody has mentioned him, Seedorf has been amazing, same goes for Rino
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
2-0 milannn comon
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!
\
KAKAKAAAAAAAA
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
GGGGOOOOALLLALALKo[whrpgisheotf
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
KAKA!!!!!!!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
2-0! KAKA'! OH MY GOD!
Can we really finish 4th!?
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:14 PM
GET IN!
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 03:15 PM
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:15 PM
KAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
COMON RAGAZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Posted by: rhy_A4 May 4 2008, 03:15 PM
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL KAKA' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FORZA KAKA' FORZA MILAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:15 PM
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F2CK YOU merda !
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:15 PM
I WANT TO SEE PATO 
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:16 PM
One more guys, one more. It should have been 6-0 all over, R7. It really should have! Inter has been really, really poor, but you can't write them off just yet.
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:17 PM
+5433212454544874132123458712315478712131^64
Posted by: CrazyMilanFan May 4 2008, 03:17 PM
voia socre 2-1
Posted by: han2503 May 4 2008, 03:18 PM
Hold on Cagliari
Posted by: acid911 May 4 2008, 03:18 PM
Crap.
Posted by: zdrossoneri May 4 2008, 03:20 PM
Brocchi...
I hate Carlo
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:21 PM
Kalac !!!!
oooo Nesta is injured
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 4 2008, 03:21 PM
Great save Kalac! That is why we don't need Dida!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2008, 03:21 PM
Inshallah he is fine
Posted by: Tennie May 4 2008, 03:21 PM
It's Cagliari 2-1 Fiorentina, Acid. That score's okay.
Nesta headbang, but seems okay.
Posted by: arivanjj May 4 2008, 03:22 PM
any one watching Fio game? how are they doing ?
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