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Sep 25 2014, 02:08 PM
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After four games I think we've all more or less formed an idea of what this team is capable of. Our strengths, our weaknesses, the areas of potential growth etc. So, what is in your opinion the formation Pippo can play based on what you've seen so far? Obviously the player choices can be different, I just went with the most popular ones (like Rami and Alex as CBs). Also I believe we can all agree that Menez and Honda are best utilized as free roamers behind the striker in choices 2 and 3, but another option would be for Honda as AM behind Menez and Torres. Please vote and give your opinion. PS: Move thread to Polls if possible as I can't post in there. (IMG: http://i57.tinypic.com/2624h0j.jpg) (IMG: http://i60.tinypic.com/2lxyy60.jpg) (IMG: http://i59.tinypic.com/ru8ku8.jpg)
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Sep 25 2014, 05:31 PM
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First formation for me is the best choice for us I think
Oh and I'll move the thread to the polls section
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Sep 25 2014, 06:44 PM
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It's a tricky matter. I keep having a change of heart every now and then, although in all honesty I think all three formations look good.
4-2-1-3 would allow us to have a more modern approach to the game, using attacking wingers and as well as the trequartista, plus giving enough cover to the defense with the double pivot.
4-3-2-1 is perhaps the more rational one, closest to what we've been playing, and with a more fluid midfield with Bonaventura instead of Muntari.
However, I think I'll have to agree with Kurt that a 3-man defense is perhaps the best way to go in Serie A. I actually like it a lot. It just clicks in everything. Defensive stability, use of wings and enough attacking power upfront. I just wish that if Pippo decides to go with it, he doesn't use a 5-man midfield like Juve, but 3-4-2-1 as I've put it above, because I absolutely want Menez and Honda behind Torres. I think it's more balanced as well, whereas 3-5-2 is more pragmatic and defensive-minded. Not to mention we would need different players in midfield.
So yeah, I'll give my vote to the last one this time.
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Sep 25 2014, 08:05 PM
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I don't think we'll ever use a 3-man midfield, it might morph into it during a game when we're attacking for example, but I can't see us actually utilising such a system, and I personally wouldn't want us to as I don't think we have defenders capable of pulling it off, they're already struggling in a system which in theory they should be comfortable with, can't imagine them trying to adapt to a 3-man defensive system
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Sep 25 2014, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 25 2014, 08:13 PM) Anything is possible. Well of course, but I just don't think that will be something Pippo tries tbh
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Sep 26 2014, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 25 2014, 10:41 PM) I don't want 3 at the back. I'll say that now. Milan do not use a 3 at the back and to have one that works requires astoundingly hard working wing backs plus 3 excellent CBs who have a borderline telepathic understanding with each other.
It's something you take ages to work on - we don't have that luxury of time. Agree with this completely. It's why I said that I don't like a 3-man defence in the other thread, because so many factors need to be taken into account and it's a complex tactical system to actually make work
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Sep 26 2014, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 25 2014, 03:08 PM) After four games I think we've all more or less formed an idea of what this team is capable of. Our strengths, our weaknesses, the areas of potential growth etc. So, what is in your opinion the formation Pippo can play based on what you've seen so far? Obviously the player choices can be different, I just went with the most popular ones (like Rami and Alex as CBs). Also I believe we can all agree that Menez and Honda are best utilized as free roamers behind the striker in choices 2 and 3, but another option would be for Honda as AM behind Menez and Torres. Please vote and give your opinion. PS: Move thread to Polls if possible as I can't post in there. (IMG: http://i57.tinypic.com/2624h0j.jpg) (IMG: http://i60.tinypic.com/2lxyy60.jpg) (IMG: http://i59.tinypic.com/ru8ku8.jpg) One of the fundamental problems at Milan is playing players out of positions particularly midfielder interpreting wing roles. Now Menez is an accomplished winger why not flank both him El Sharaawy and put Honda behind the striker? If one of El92/Menez is unavailable then Honda/Bona can be improvised wingers.
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Sep 26 2014, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 25 2014, 10:41 PM) I don't want 3 at the back. I'll say that now. Milan do not use a 3 at the back and to have one that works requires astoundingly hard working wing backs plus 3 excellent CBs who have a borderline telepathic understanding with each other.
It's something you take ages to work on - we don't have that luxury of time.
Furthermore a 3 at the back requires the defenders to be particularly big and strong. Only Alex fits into that. Mexes is a liability although he is big and strong, while Rami is neither big nor strong. Zapata is physical and fast but hardly a man mountain.
Nah, 4 at the back for me. I think you're exaggerating there. Juve switched to 3-5-2 in mid-season under Conte when their 4-2-4 wasn't working, it immediately brought results. We have hard-working fullbacks, that's not a problem. Our CBs might need some time to adapt, but I don't agree that they're not "big" nor "strong" as you put it. Mexes, Alex and Rami are all that. Zapata is not big but he's very strong. Though I think we would need at least one left-footed CB for it to work properly. That being said, I understand why some of you are skeptical about it. It's something entirely different, but that doen't mean we can't give it a try. 7 out of 20 Serie A teams already utilize it.
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