First saying probably no reinforcements, and then saying probably no Honda because of him being non-EU. But we got 1 non-EU spot ''left'' and it's not like we are planning more transfers it seems????

*is doing crazy things with hands and head*

I have to agree... Silva was one of the only working parts on this club last year... so it stink to lose him... but if someone offers me 25mm for a central defender I'm almost always going to say "yes." That's a lot of money for any center back. At any given time I can probably count on my fingers the number of centerbacks in the world I would NOT sell for 30mm.

While you won't get someone quite as good as Silva, you can probably get a player who is 80% of Silva at less than half the price and use the rest of the money to upgrade elsewhere. Hell, Sokratis and Nesta isn't all that bad an option, especially if it means we're adding a 20+mm player elsewhere (midfield preferably, Kaka replacement ideally).

I'm not exactly thrilled by the idea, though.

This post has been edited by alskor: Jul 28 2010, 11:12 PM

Now even someone who would sell Thiago Silva for 25 mio?

Can anyone please agree with me people are getting sick in here???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I don't know what to believe or not anymore after reading the finacial report earlier i'm just happy to have a club!
honda maybe a good player but if we only make 1 signing (and that looks likely to be only 1) i'd prefer a player proven in serie A.
I beleive in the coach for sure the players like Oddo and Zambrotta we know should be having thier places fought for by younger players but it seems this club has lost some of its vision and all of its money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Don't worry pal, I'm with you. Pato and Silva are the last players I'd want us to sell.

With you 2 on this one.

If we sell Thiago or Pato it would be another desperate attempt by the management to get a cash injection the easy way. And we all know there won't be a worthy replacement coming in.

What struck me is Galliani saying, we'll probably keep our stars in the 2011/12 season. So the future isn't looking any brighter for us anytime soon, not unless Silvio hands the club over, which is something that will not happen. Nest to go will be Pato and Silva maybe Pirlo as well. We're becoming a selling club and I can see us slipping to mid table level in a couple of seasons. Another season without CL football (which at this rate with the way they're letting the team rot it doesn't look that unlikely) and we're done for

That's not really what I said. I have no desire at all to sell Silva. I'd want more than 30mm to let him leave.

My point was... if someone is beating down your door offering you 30mm for a central defender its very hard to turn that down. Its almost always good value to take that deal.

Let me put it this way - if we paid 25-35 million right now to GET Thiago Silva FROM Real, how would you feel about that?

(I'd be excited to land him but outraged we blew that much money on a center back.)

Happy.

25 mio is a very very good deal for the buyer.

While he had his moments (silly defensive lapses, injuries, an own goal, etc) Silva was one of the better players for Milan last season.

Thiago Silva isn't worth 25 million.

But right now, this fish doesn't really think any active CB is worth that much, not even Nesta (who prolly would be if he weren't injured half the year).

And this fish is readying the R7-No-Longer-Memorial-Piranha-Tank for anyone who wants to sell Silva.

Perhaps that is why it's probably. He wants to wait and see if we get CL money for 11/12!

With Galliani's behavior over the last couple years it makes perfect sense that there will be no more reinforcements. The worst part about his comments are alright if you cant afford the best players then so be it but he makes it sound like Milan already have a bunch of stars and that we won't really need anybody or something and the claim of wanting reinforcements as an irrational fan request.

Its funny how he makes the Inter president as an example when Inter are completely stacked and have a top coach now. Allegri is just a Berlusconi puppet thats why no major coach wants to come to Milan because you have to bend over to Galliani and Berlusconi. There is no comparison to their team. Galliani also makes it sound like they are on the same level with Inter.

Its also interesting his emphasis on the relief of all the stars that are staying. Pato is the only real star. Ronaldinho is great but on the decline. Silva still has to prove he is a star. Maybe Borriello. Everybody else is just mediocre or on the decline. 90% of our team isn't fit to sit on Barcelona's bench. We just lost to Varese for crying out loud and it was most of our starting line-up.

At this rate only Berlusconi selling and Galliani getting kicked out will result in getting back to the great top 3 teams in the world like they were 4 years ago.

For heaven's sake....yeesh!!

Point1: It wasn't most of our starting lineup. It was half our starting lineup, coming back from vacation- with 4 days of training where they played beach volleyball as a conditioning exercise.

Point2: Allegri's being panned for being a 'puppet'. I suppose the right thing to do...when you're coming onto take over a squad of 23 players for the first time - most of whom are big winners, while you've won zilch as a player and as a coach save an excellent reputation- is to call out a press conference and publicly denounce the management who just hired you, by saying your current squad is crap and I don't know what the hell I'm expected to do with them. Yup! That's the way. You'll definitely get the players playing for you then right??!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Not to mention the management goes, "Oh no! This nobody coach from a provincial side has decried us. Let's do whatever it takes to make him happy. I'm gonna write a 100 million euro check right now". Pfft.....

Allegri will first need to prove himself to the players and to the management. When he's won the support of both, you'll see the cheques being written. Even then they'll be 'medium' sums.

I'm honestly not worried. Not one bit.

When Silvio first came in, we were one of the first clubs to have a sugar daddy. And we set the trend for spending big and making a team of superstars. Now we're probably gonna set a new trend of being financially sound, while being competitive. Eventually the other teams are gonna follow suit. Teams like Barca, Chelsea, Spurs, Inter...they've forced themselves into a cycle of having to buy to maintain stability.

Like R7 said, I think a big wind of change is blowing. The new Milan is now being carved from the inside out. In the future when these kind of transfer amounts and player wages are no longer possible (~3 years), I think players will see Milan again as an excellent outlet. For me Arsenal, Milan and the German clubs are going to rule the second and third decades.

Relax. We've always been ahead of the trend curve..I think we shall continue to be.

But for 5 years there shall be nothing....I don't care. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) I can see through the fog!

Point 1: Taken

Point 2: Not so much. No one is saying that Allegri needs to slate the management to show them who the boss is, but some signs of life out of him would be nice. Gently saying that he think he needs a couple of more players to reinforce the squad is not the same as what you said. All his interviews with the media show that he's letting the dynamic duo from above pull his puppet strings every which way they want. We don't need another Carlo, letting them walk all over him. And so what if the players won a lot? He's the coach, that means they respect him no matter what he's won or not won in the past.

Berlusconi was only a sugar daddy for the team because he's not stupid . Milan was a launching pad for his political success and he rode that tool for as long as he needed until he got what he wanted. Now he has all that, why continue to pour in money into something that has no use to you? You believe that in a couple of years Arsenal and Milan would be a model top follow? No way, more gazillionaires from the far east will swoop in and buy clubs as a toy because they wipe their @sses with $100 bills, and soon that trend will come into the Serie A as well. And were would we be, mid table at best with only our "clean" end of year books to show while other teams are winning titles.

Arsenal aren't a healthy company, and they do spend, sometimes Wenger spends double figures for a youngster that is relatively unknown and that is a gamble, just because he's going to Arsenal does not mean he'll turn into gold, and we've seen a lot of the over hyped Arsen kids spend a couple seasons there, fail then vanish into oblivion.

A club like Milan being in the league it is in can never be self sufficient, simple. So either Silvio sells up or we'll be the club that just has a great history but doesn't even get into Europe in a couple of ears time.

Milan is very close to loan Ben Arfa - link

Agent of Krasic : Juventus never contacted with me or CSKA - link

Quoting a few of the salient points here...



1. Of course you took it. You take whatever I give you b!tch!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

2. We have no proof he hasn't done it. We have had AMbro and Zee come out and say it. Milan have always presented a united front and for me this is just the continuation. Already you can hear rumours of Ben Arfa being loaned. We rarely if anything play through the media. None of our transfer targets/acquisitions were announced to the media before they were done. Not even the R80 or Beckham move.
Relatedly, I'm 100% sure during the recruitment Allegri was well informed of exactly what parameters he would have to play with. He's taken the job with the info in hand. So I doubt anything is coming in as a suprise to him, or that he feels screwed.

3. Trust me, that era is over. This financial crisis has spooked too many people to plunge money into sport anymore. Far East people unlike the Arabs, are too obsessed with their RoI, and will not make a move otherwise. Even the Arab mindsets are changing. They'd rather invest in telecom than a loss making institution. Why do you think Liverpool is still struggling for a purchaser? Liverpool!! Mighty liverpool of the super rich EPL!!!

4. If you compare them to the rest of the teams in EPL of comparable position, believe me, they are in kick *** condition. Liverpool will collapse if they have 2 more seasons like the one they just did. Same with Man U. Maybe not Chelsea. But Arsenal will go on. In fact their base is so strong, Wenger could pick up and leave and they'd still continue. Think of Chelsea minus Roman. Or Man U minus Fergie. And give Redknapp enough time..spurs will get f@cked too.

5. Yes it can otherwise why should the management embark on a venture they feel is impossible. Give Silvio some credit. You don't become a multibillionaire by not knowing how to set up a company. But it will take 3-5 years. And right now, when our 'glamour' and 'prestige' is still mostly intact is the only time we can do it. Use it to bring in sponsorships. Tie up with other feeder clubs for young talent. Attract the best coaching staff. All this requires more of 'prestige' and less of 'money'. Not when we're tottering under financial stress and thus lose all past glory...like what will happen if we continue to make big-money moves. You're just continuing to run a full sprint in a marathon knowing your legs are failing. We'd become another Lazio.

6. The part about Silvio's selfish interest. Of course. Not one modern billionaire takes over a football club for the 'love of football'. That was long back. Now you want something. Either a political push (silvio). You're exiled with a lot of money and now you want to enjoy the glamour lifestyle (roman). Or you want an international presence along with the associated business benefits (Maktoum).

However it is impossible to invest 25 years of your life only to walk away from it like it means nothing to you. It means a lot to Silvio. He hates losing. He's the Donald Trump of Italy except a lot more devious. The difference is he's a businessman without a heart. He places emotions after the balance sheet...and that's what's happening now.

R7 said it best. A new Milan is being formed..and it's being carved from the inside out. The outer shell will obviously crack as it is doing now.

I'll say it again and again. We shall win sh!t or next to it for the next 3-6 years. After that we're set for the big times..for good this time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)