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Nov 7 2014, 09:20 AM
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I don't usually have a problem with players leaving, if we get money for them. But when a club sticks by you like that, the very least you can do is get the club something in return. Basically we paid money for him, gave him a new deal when he didn't deserve one to give him another chance and then he Fs us over.
At least with Barry, Milner and Young they were all quality their entire stay and left when we could still make money from them. Hutton's a more comparable situation, did nothing for 3 years, we gave him another chance, he improves and signs a new deal.
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Nov 24 2014, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 24 2014, 03:09 AM) Falling? Soon as Suarez left that was it for them.
Suarez made Rodgers look like Mourinho.
Now we're seeing he's really very average. Liverpool were great without Suarez last season when he was banned. I don't buy that simple argument. Liverpool are just bad from back to front. players that were performing last season aren't in this one, the system that was so great and exhilarating to watch last season is gone as well, that was not dependant on Suarez. Yes he was a hugely important player for them, but to go from how they played last season to how they're playing now is not solely dependant on Suarez not being there
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Nov 24 2014, 10:25 AM
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They were great not just based on their results, but how they played in general. They were good throughout last season, Suarez or no Suarez.
Keep in mind I'm not trying to demean how great Suarez is, the man is a machine and he really proves the argument I was making in the other thread that certain strikers (Ibra and Suarez) can do it all, while others - no matter how great they are - can't do it all.
I just think Liverpool's problems this season run far deeper than just losing Suarez
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Nov 24 2014, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Nov 24 2014, 11:48 AM) Nah, he elevated them big time.
After his return, they were managing:
4-1 V West Ham 0-5 at Spurs 3-1 over Cardiff 0-3 at Utd 3-6 at Cardiff 4-0 over Spurs 0-3 at Southampton 5-1 v Arsenal
They had some lesser results of course but with him in the team they were monstrous at times.
Prior to that big loss v Chelsea (which basically cost them the title) they went on a 12-match winning run, including over the champions elect Man City.
He was making that happen, but Rodgers' lack of a plan B cost them at Chelsea. Let's put it this way, I think Suarez elevated them to a completely new level, I completely agree with you there However I do not believe that they should be as bad as they are this season, even without him. There was always going to be a drop, they lost a top class player (not just striker), but the severe meltdown we're seeing this season for me is not just Suarez related - it IS a huge part but not all of it, that's what I'm trying to say basically
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