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Posted by: han2503 Feb 17 2012, 09:49 PM

As per request from diavolo_mtl, seeing as we have about a 100 injuries at any given time, an injury thread would be great so everyone can keep up-to-date with the current injury states of the various players on the treatment table.

Any news about injuries can be posted here so we don't have to go through all the indivdual player threads to see how they're moving along in their recovery

Hopefully we're not inviting on anymore injuries by opening such a thread. Hoping we'll keep the page count as low as possible

Posted by: acid911 Feb 17 2012, 10:17 PM

Han and the word Hope go hand in hand. biggrin.gif tongue.gif You probably are the record holder for using it in all match threads, and I bet around 5% of forum posts too have it once or twice. Either you're good, or plain good at it.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 17 2012, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 17 2012, 10:17 PM) *
Han and the word Hope go hand in hand. biggrin.gif tongue.gif You probably are the record holder for using it in all match threads, and I bet around 5% of forum posts too have it once or twice. Either you're good, or plain good at it.

Well I'm a hopeful person, what can I say? biggrin.gif

Posted by: acid911 Feb 17 2012, 10:38 PM

Well here's hoping against hope, you used other words to describe your hopeness. smile.gif Words like expect, wish, fingers crossed, aspire, desire, etc. Agree about your sentiments though, I want a full team on the pitch as soon as we can. Frankly, if Flamini can finally recover, I too, have hope that we'll minimize injuries till the end of the season.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 17 2012, 11:17 PM

Read that Mexes was injured in training, and Seedorf could be out for possibly a month.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 18 2012, 04:39 PM

Allegri: "Pato and Boateng have some minor muscular problems. Nothing serious. It's pointless to risk them getting injured vs. Cesena."

Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2012, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 18 2012, 04:39 PM) *
Allegri: "Pato and Boateng have some minor muscular problems. Nothing serious. It's pointless to risk them getting injured vs. Cesena."

In other words, they were both rushed for the Arsenal game

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 18 2012, 05:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 18 2012, 05:04 PM) *
In other words, they were both rushed for the Arsenal game


Boateng was necessary. Pato... Well, I'm not surprised. Even if he wasn't rushed, the guy would eventually get injured.

Posted by: William405 Feb 18 2012, 06:05 PM

Let's not forget how important was that champions leauge game...

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2012, 07:15 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:05 PM) *
Let's not forget how important was that champions leauge game...

Agreed, i think sending Pato in over SES was more of a PR move

Posted by: Zed.D Feb 18 2012, 07:56 PM

Isn't this KPB's 3rd or 4th injury in two seasons?

Posted by: Bluesummers Feb 18 2012, 08:26 PM

again? cry.gif depressing sad.gif

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 18 2012, 08:26 PM

QUOTE
Milan have announced that Kevin-Prince Boateng picked up a thigh injury during the 4-0 win over Arsenal.

The Ghanaian made his comeback from a long lay-off in that Champions League game, scoring the opener with a sensational volley.

However, he limped off during the second half and it seems as if the injury is more serious than previously thought.

“A.C. Milan confirm that after the Arsenal game Kevin-Prince Boateng was diagnosed with a muscular problem in his left thigh,” read a statement.

“Over the next few days the prognosis will be established following more medical tests.”

Meanwhile, Alberto Aquilani and Mathieu Flamini resumed training with the full squad today.

Alessandro Nesta, Alexandre Pato, Boateng, Clarence Seedorf and Philippe Mexes miss tomorrow’s Serie A match with Cesena.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 18 2012, 09:55 PM

He CANNOT miss the Juve game!!!

Posted by: han2503 Feb 18 2012, 11:00 PM

Boateng is seemingly picking up as many muscular injuries as Pato. It's just getting to a point where it's completelt unacceptable.

If it was just Pato than we'd have to accept it as him being the problem. But with every new long term muscular injury, we simply cannot keep isolating it as something that just happens to Pato

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 18 2012, 11:43 PM

I saw Boateng leaving the pitch against Arsenal with my own eyes. Otherwise I'd blame Melissa. Hold your horses woman, Boateng has a derby to play on 25th.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2012, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 18 2012, 11:43 PM) *
I saw Boateng leaving the pitch against Arsenal with my own eyes. Otherwise I'd blame Melissa. Hold your horses woman, Boateng has a derby to play on 25th.

He looked ok coming off the pitch to me...

I just don't get how all these injuries keep popping up out of nowhere. Nesta also, just declared fit, 3 days later he's injured again, I mean WTF??

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 19 2012, 12:29 AM

It's a mystery. We have the largest number of injuries in Serie A. Something must be done about it. Yes Galliani, I'm talking to you.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 19 2012, 12:56 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2012, 04:29 AM) *
Yes Galliani, I'm talking to you.

Yeah, but I am sure he is not listening. sad.gif We have a much better team than Juventus, and well, as good a coach as they do, yet we are still trailing them. When in a perfect world, we'd be 6-9 points ahead of them. As things stand we need six points in our next two matches to really give them a hard time.

Anything less, and really, it will be Even Stevens, when in reality it shouldn't be, considering our team. Injuries!!!

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 19 2012, 10:44 AM

It is well known that this synthetic pitch is more dangerous. I don't know what happened in the past, but I know that we will continue to have injured players. Mexes, Pato and Boateng injured since we got that pitch in Milanello.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2012, 11:31 AM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 19 2012, 10:44 AM) *
It is well known that this synthetic pitch is more dangerous. I don't know what happened in the past, but I know that we will continue to have injured players. Mexes, Pato and Boateng injured since we got that pitch in Milanello.

I never knew that they switched to syntethic at Milanello.

Still, I do believe that something is terribly wrong with the way they're treating these injuries

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 19 2012, 11:56 AM

A journalist from Gazzetta dello Sport was yesterday in Milanello and he said that Boateng trained with the team all the time and he didn't see anything wrong with him.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 19 2012, 11:31 AM) *
I never knew that they switched to syntethic at Milanello.

Still, I do believe that something is terribly wrong with the way they're treating these injuries


Yes they did .

Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2012, 12:12 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 19 2012, 11:56 AM) *
A journalist from Gazzetta dello Sport was yesterday in Milanello and he said that Boateng trained with the team all the time and he didn't see anything wrong with him.

Could it be that they're using it as an excuse not to risk him? So that is we don't win no one could accuse Allegri of not playing Boateng...

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 19 2012, 12:37 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 19 2012, 12:12 PM) *
Could it be that they're using it as an excuse not to risk him? So that is we don't win no one could accuse Allegri of not playing Boateng...


There's a chance it's tactical move from Allegri. Not to use Boateng against Cesena since that is not the most important game we'll be playing and in same time if we don't get three points, not to get judged for not including him in the team. So he'd have a full fit Boateng and Pato against Juventus.
But there's also a chance that he trained regularly with the team, but he got the pain after the training session. And if that's true, he could risk another 3-4 weeks.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 19 2012, 12:40 PM

ROMA-REPORT: Substained a bruise in his right hand, Piscitelli will be the 3rd keeper.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 19 2012, 02:38 PM

Boateng could be out for another month.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/77263/milan-a-pezzi-contro-la-juventus.shtml

This isn't funny anymore. sad.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 19 2012, 02:55 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2012, 02:38 PM) *
Boateng could be out for another month.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/77263/milan-a-pezzi-contro-la-juventus.shtml

This isn't funny anymore. sad.gif


This was never funny cry.gif

Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2012, 05:39 PM

So definately no Boateng for Juve.

But is the situation with the others still the same?

Pato, Nesta, Mexes, Aquilani and Flamini will be in the squad correct?

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 19 2012, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 19 2012, 05:39 PM) *
So definately no Boateng for Juve.

But is the situation with the others still the same?

Pato, Nesta, Mexes, Aquilani and Flamini will be in the squad correct?


The first three, yes. Don't know about Aquilani and Flamini.

Posted by: han2503 Feb 19 2012, 05:50 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 19 2012, 05:41 PM) *
The first three, yes. Don't know about Aquilani and Flamini.

Well hasn't Aqui been training with the team since before the Arsenal match?

I would think he'd be ready in another week

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 19 2012, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 19 2012, 05:50 PM) *
Well hasn't Aqui been training with the team since before the Arsenal match?

I would think he'd be ready in another week


I suppose so.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 20 2012, 12:33 AM

Only recently realized this thread exists. Well, with the usual injury rhythm, this could be one of the top threads here.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 20 2012, 07:05 PM

Allegri: "Pato didn't play yesterday, because I didn't want to risk him getting injured after having just returned. He will be available against Juventus."

Mexes and Nesta are almost fit as well.

Ambro has minor sprain to his ankle but nothing serious and should be ready for Juve.

Tomorrow we'll know more about Boateng's injury.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 20 2012, 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 20 2012, 07:05 PM) *
Tomorrow we'll know more about Boateng's injury.


Fingers crossed! Imagine if Boateng recovers and Ibra's ban is lifted. Wooooo!!! yahoo.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2012, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 20 2012, 07:05 PM) *
Allegri: "Pato didn't play yesterday, because I didn't want to risk him getting injured after having just returned. He will be available against Juventus."

Mexes and Nesta are almost fit as well.

Ambro has minor sprain to his ankle but nothing serious and should be ready for Juve.

Tomorrow we'll know more about Boateng's injury.

Some really good news

But not going to get my hopes up in regards to Boateng

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 07:39 PM) *
Fingers crossed! Imagine if Boateng recovers and Ibra's ban is lifted. Wooooo!!! yahoo.gif biggrin.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm sure the Juventini would cry foul if Ibra's ban is lifted

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Feb 20 2012, 09:21 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 20 2012, 03:54 PM) *
I'm sure the Juventini would cry foul if Ibra's ban is lifted

As if they need an excuse to cry foul rolleyes.gif

Posted by: han2503 Feb 20 2012, 10:24 PM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Feb 20 2012, 09:21 PM) *
As if they need an excuse to cry foul rolleyes.gif

I still can't believe that the federation let them get off with the BS they put out. They should have fined their sorry @sses. And to make it worse, they get 2 very favourable decisions in their next match. It's just disgraceful!

Just what Serie A needs. More conspiracy theories about Juve

Posted by: William405 Feb 21 2012, 09:37 AM

When will we know?

Posted by: William405 Feb 21 2012, 09:38 AM

When will we know?

Posted by: han2503 Feb 21 2012, 10:06 AM

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 21 2012, 09:37 AM) *
When will we know?

Thursday

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 21 2012, 01:43 PM

Boateng is currently receiving physiotherapy at Milanello now. He will undergo further medical examinations tomorrow.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 21 2012, 03:44 PM

Good news from Milanello: Pato and Flamini joined the group !

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 21 2012, 07:17 PM

According to Mediaset, Boateng's recovery is very difficult. He should be available from next week. Aquilani also is very far from being fit. Nesta will play against Juve as Mexes' knee still hurts him. Only Pato and Nesta thus are fully recovered and available to play against Juve.

We need Ibra!!! sad.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 21 2012, 07:38 PM

So frustrating that for this game, maybe the most important game of the season, we can't field our best team dry.gif

Posted by: han2503 Feb 21 2012, 07:41 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 21 2012, 07:17 PM) *
According to Mediaset, Boateng's recovery is very difficult. He should be available from next week. Aquilani also is very far from being fit. Nesta will play against Juve as Mexes' knee still hurts him. Only Pato and Nesta thus are fully recovered and available to play against Juve.

We need Ibra!!! sad.gif

I think we need Boateng more than Ibra for this particular game. Juve find it harder to deal with pacy players and movement, while with Ibra we tend to play a more static game when teams close us down. Which is what Juve will undoubtedly do.

At leat Nesta and Pato are back, imagine having to play with Bonera in the center

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 22 2012, 01:10 PM

Milanello: Mexes, Nesta, Pato and Ambrosini warmed up with the group.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 22 2012, 07:55 PM

Mauro Suma: "Boateng had double session of therapy yesterday & today. It's difficult to see him vs Juve. We'll know on Friday."

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 22 2012, 07:57 PM

Too bad. And no Aquilani and Seedorf makes this even harder. sad.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Feb 22 2012, 11:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 06:57 PM) *
Too bad. And no Aquilani and Seedorf makes this even harder. sad.gif

we wont have any creative player in midfield at all, i just that we simply lose player for same position.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 27 2012, 04:34 PM

Suma: "I'm optimistic about Maxi Lopez injury & I think he'll be back for next match. Bonera (calf) & Nesta (knee) are in doubt. Boateng will be back against Arsenal or Lecce. Aquilani will return after that."

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 27 2012, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 27 2012, 04:34 PM) *
Suma: Bonera (calf) & Nesta (knee) are in doubt. Boateng will be back against Arsenal or Lecce. Aquilani will return after that."



Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 27 2012, 04:53 PM

We expected Aquilani for the first game against Arsenal and look now, he can't play in the second leg either.

So we either don't want to play him so we don't activate his clause for the obligatory buy or MilanLab screwed him too.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 27 2012, 05:24 PM

We also expected Nesta for the first leg against Arsenal, now he's in doubt for Palermo. Not to mention the Boateng case. Bottom line: if a Milan player is supposed to recover after 3 weeks from an injury, add to that 2 weeks of MilanLab screwing the injured player even more.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2012, 05:34 PM

That's just...mind blowing.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 27 2012, 05:34 PM

Simply can't catch a break. On the other hand, the zebra scum almsot injury free all season dry.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 27 2012, 05:48 PM

I remember Allegri's interview 2-3 weeks ago when he was saying we were finally getting all our players back. Sorry Max, but you've been duped. sleep.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 28 2012, 04:59 PM

Training Updates: The team is back to training after break. Gattuso & Flamini are training with the rest of group.

Training Updates: Bonera & Maxi Lopez trained separately. Boateng, Pato & Cassano have cycling session.

Training Updates: Abbiati, Amelia,Roma, Antonini, Zambrotta,Calvano, Carmona, Ambrosini,Flamini, Valoti,Robinho & Inzaghi made full training.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 06:30 PM

What about Aquilani? unsure.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 28 2012, 06:32 PM

No news about him.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 06:35 PM

I guess they've all forgotten about him. laugh.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 28 2012, 06:45 PM

Well, probably he didn't train at all since they didn't mention him.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 07:04 PM

Whatever is wrong with him, anyway? He hasn't a played a single game since December, and we're at March in two days. Wasn't he supposed to be out for only a month? This is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: amancik Feb 28 2012, 08:34 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 02:04 AM) *
Whatever is wrong with him, anyway? He hasn't a played a single game since December, and we're at March in two days. Wasn't he supposed to be out for only a month? This is beyond ridiculous.


Why was he out again? I can't remember what kind of injury he suffered in December.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 08:51 PM

QUOTE (amancik @ Feb 28 2012, 08:34 PM) *
Why was he out again? I can't remember what kind of injury he suffered in December.


I can't remember. I just hope this isn't a cheap tactic by Galliani to prevent him from reaching the 25 games mark, which would obligate us to sign him. He's only 5 games shy from reaching that amount.

Posted by: William405 Feb 28 2012, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 09:51 PM) *
I can't remember. I just hope this isn't a cheap tactic by Galliani to prevent him from reaching the 25 games mark, which would obligate us to sign him. He's only 5 games shy from reaching that amount.


No way in hell lol...

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:05 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 02:51 PM) *
I can't remember. I just hope this isn't a cheap tactic by Galliani to prevent him from reaching the 25 games mark, which would obligate us to sign him. He's only 5 games shy from reaching that amount.

That's what i'd expect, i think they were going to see Emauelson's development before making the aquilani signing permanent. Expect Eman to start over a healthy Aquilani for the rest of the year dry.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:32 PM

It's just €6 million, to be paid in two installments, for a player that is quite important to us. Could we be that cheap?

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 04:32 PM) *
It's just €6 million, to be paid in two installments, for a player that is quite important to us. Could we be that cheap?

i don't agree with it, but i can see Allegri wanting a more mobile player in his midfield then aquilani

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:35 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 28 2012, 10:34 PM) *
i don't agree with it, but i can see Allegri wanting a more mobile player in his midfield then aquilani


That doesn't mean we don't keep him.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:37 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 04:35 PM) *
That doesn't mean we don't keep him.

Again, i'm really indifferent, but i can see Galliani not wanting to buy him...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2012, 10:37 PM

I don't know what to say; he's been good, but he's also injury-prone, and we have Montolivo coming up next summer.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 28 2012, 04:37 PM) *
I don't know what to say; he's been good, but he's also injury-prone, and we have Montolivo coming up next summer.

He'll be more of a fit IMO, he can defend a lot better then Aquilani while offering mostly the same going forward...

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:41 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 28 2012, 10:37 PM) *
Again, i'm really indifferent, but i can see Galliani not wanting to buy him...


I think he's a player Allegri likes. He found his right position in midfield as RCM with Nocerino as LCM. Honestly, as I don't see us making extravagant signings this summer, it's a really good midfield with Boateng as AM. Then, Montolivo is also coming for free, which means we'll have an equal attractive substitute should Aquilani get injured. This is the best we can afford right now.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:42 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 28 2012, 10:39 PM) *
He'll be more of a fit IMO, he can defend a lot better then Aquilani while offering mostly the same going forward...


Aquilani > Montolivo.

sleep.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 28 2012, 10:45 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 10:42 PM) *
Aquilani > Montolivo.

sleep.gif

+1

Btw. you guys think we're gonna keep Muntari? If he maintains the same level of displays, I'd certainly sign him!

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 04:42 PM) *
Aquilani > Montolivo.

sleep.gif

I don't disagree at all, i'm simply stating that Monto is more of a fit in our system...

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 28 2012, 10:45 PM) *
+1

Btw. you guys think we're gonna keep Muntari? If he maintains the same level of displays, I'd certainly sign him!


Of course. He'd come for free anyway. Another player that could come for free and that I'd love us to sign is Keita. He'd be the perfect replacement for Ambrosini.

In other news, Boateng will certainly miss the Palermo game, Pato is in doubt as well.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idtmw=334725

Hopefully he recovers for Arsenal. We really need him there! Boateng, that is.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 28 2012, 04:45 PM) *
+1

Btw. you guys think we're gonna keep Muntari? If he maintains the same level of displays, I'd certainly sign him!

I've actually always found him to be very underrated, even at Inter, where i feel he was misused. I do think he is a perfect player for our system, mostly an unspectacular defensively-minded hard worker who is quick on the counter and has underrated offensive abilities.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 28 2012, 10:54 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Feb 28 2012, 10:52 PM) *
I've actually always found him to be very underrated, even at Inter, where i feel he was misused. I do think he is a perfect player for our system, mostly an unspectacular defensively-minded hard worker who is quick on the counter and has underrated offensive abilities.


He's the perfect sub for Nocerino.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 28 2012, 11:01 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 28 2012, 04:54 PM) *
He's the perfect sub for Nocerino.

I agree completely, and this may offend all haters of defensive game-planning, but with the RM position stil up for grabs, he could very well win over that position. I obviously hope for us to sign a better mid, but with the overall stinginess of management, i don't see management signing a proper Am and moving Boatang to RM, nor to I feel that Montolivo is above competing for his position, should we sign him.

PS. I do expect to be bashed for management's lack of competitive ambition in writing this. innocent.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 29 2012, 03:24 PM

Pato to miss Palermo as well. Muscular problems.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/pato-di-nuovo-ko-salta-palermo.shtml?refresh_cens

So, he's been out for most of the season. Gets back against Arsenal, plays a couple of minutes and is injured again. Gets back against Juventus, plays an unwatchable first half, is injured again. Honestly, this is getting worse and worse. Pato's contribution for this season will probably be zero, and considering Cassano's forfeiture, our only reliable strikers are and will be Ibra and Robinho, with Maxi and El Shaarawy popping up once in a while. So depressing...

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Feb 29 2012, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 09:24 AM) *
Pato to miss Palermo as well. Muscular problems.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/pato-di-nuovo-ko-salta-palermo.shtml?refresh_cens

So, he's been out for most of the season. Gets back against Arsenal, plays a couple of minutes and is injured again. Gets back against Juventus, plays an unwatchable first half, is injured again. Honestly, this is getting worse and worse. Pato's contribution for this season will probably be zero, and considering Cassano's forfeiture, our only reliable strikers are and will be Ibra and Robinho, with Maxi and El Shaarawy popping up once in a while. So depressing...

If it's any consolation, El Sha mostly looked sharp yesterday...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2012, 03:45 PM

Don't forget Pippo smile.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 29 2012, 05:55 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 29 2012, 03:45 PM) *
Don't forget Pippo smile.gif


Tell that to Allegri. tongue.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2012, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 05:55 PM) *
Tell that to Allegri. tongue.gif

I know, it's frustrating.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 29 2012, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 29 2012, 01:06 PM) *
I know, it's frustrating.


Pippo doesn't fit the system. Hedoesnt have the fitness to do much defensive work and he's never had much in the way of ball handling skill. It's tough to see a legend out in the cold but he just doesn't fit.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2012, 07:14 PM

Doesn't fit the system? He's a pure striker, every system would need a player like him. But yes, he's past his prime. Yet, he sure does deserve more then he gets.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Feb 29 2012, 07:42 PM

Mauro Suma at Milan Channel said tomorrow will be a key day for the injured, there's hope* on Bonera to start alongside Thiago Silva.

*Suma doesn't really mean hope. I think he wanted to say fear but it wouldn't be fair.

SUMA: "Nesta could be back vs Arsenal, Pato wont play vs Palermo. Boateng could return vs Arsenal, Lecce or Parma. Aquilani is better"

SUMA: "We'll know more about Maxi tomorrow. Flamini could be called up vs Palermo"

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2012, 07:49 PM

Well, with Yepes gone, Mexes suspended and Nesta questionable, Bonera is hope, like it or not.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 29 2012, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 29 2012, 07:42 PM) *
Boateng could return vs Arsenal, Lecce or Parma.


First it was against Arsenal. Then it was against Arsenal or Lecce. Now it's against Arsenal, Lecce or Parma. sleep.gif

Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 29 2012, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 29 2012, 01:14 PM) *
Doesn't fit the system? He's a pure striker, every system would need a player like him. But yes, he's past his prime. Yet, he sure does deserve more then he gets.


I think Allegri expects a more complete game from his forwards. I think that's one reason Pato has struggled along with the injuries and why Pippo doesn't get much time.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 29 2012, 09:49 PM

Allegri plays a system without proper strikers, meaning that all forwards must make movement in order to widen the game. Pato is too stationary and passive in that aspect. Against Juve it was like we were playing with 10 men.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Feb 29 2012, 10:09 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 29 2012, 03:49 PM) *
Allegri plays a system without proper strikers, meaning that all forwards must make movement in order to widen the game. Pato is too stationary and passive in that aspect. Against Juve it was like we were playing with 10 men.


Exactly. All of our forwards that have had periods of success (Ibra, Robinho when he can shoot, and Cassano before he had his incident) all tracked back extensively. Many times a game they will take turns dropping back to midfield allowing Nocerino or Boateng to make forward runs.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 29 2012, 10:27 PM

Yeah, sure, but a scorer like Pippo nevertheless is always good. Not as a starter, but in some occasions as a bench bonus or a late joker.

Posted by: X-Offender Feb 29 2012, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 29 2012, 10:27 PM) *
Yeah, sure, but a scorer like Pippo nevertheless is always good. Not as a starter, but in some occasions as a bench bonus or a late joker.


No doubt about that.

Posted by: acid911 Feb 29 2012, 11:19 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2012, 02:27 AM) *
Yeah, sure, but a scorer like Pippo nevertheless is always good. Not as a starter, but in some occasions as a bench bonus or a late joker.

Come again? huh.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Feb 29 2012, 11:22 PM

QUOTE
Alexandre Pato is also expected to miss this weekend’s clash with Palermo, as the Milan forward’s muscular problems continue.

‘The Duck’ has missed most of the season due to a series of recurring thigh injuries and picked up a new one during the first half of Saturday’s 1-1 draw with Juventus.

Pato has not taken part in full training yet this week, so is very unlikely to recover in time for this weekend’s game against Palermo.

Alessandro Nesta and Kevin-Prince Boateng are also not expected to make it, so Daniele Bonera should start in central defence in place of the suspended Philippe Mexes.

Maxi Lopez will undergo further tests on Thursday to see if he is ready for his comeback, but Zlatan Ibrahimovic is available after the end of his three-match ban.

http://www.football-italia.net/node/16191

depressing...

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 1 2012, 01:22 AM

beyond depressing. poor kid. its getting hard for him to keep his head up

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Mar 1 2012, 02:09 AM

I swear guys, i never thought this thread would amount to so much dispair, i simply thought it would serve to unify all of the information sad.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 1 2012, 10:37 AM

Former director of Milan Lab, Jean-Pierre Meersseman, is at Milanello this week to help evalaute the condition of every Milan player.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 1 2012, 10:38 AM

Forget it. DP

Posted by: han2503 Mar 1 2012, 12:13 PM

What good will that do now anyway?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2012, 01:19 PM

Well, obviously we need an "outside consultant". Things are getting ridiculous. We need a change in the medical staff.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 1 2012, 01:19 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 29 2012, 11:19 PM) *
Come again? huh.gif

Joker, wild card,...you know that expression?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 1 2012, 01:34 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 1 2012, 05:19 PM) *
Joker, wild card,...you know that expression?

Ah, yes. smile.gif I had my suspicion, just wanted to confirm. And yeah, totally agreed, I can't see why he can't come every once in a while in the domestic matches, as well as get some good time in the CL. But hey, it's not like Allegri is that brilliant a man-manager. Once you're in his bad books, it's nearly impossible to come out.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 2 2012, 07:11 PM

In the second part of the press conference Massimiliano Allegri has reviewed the conditions of the players in the infirmary:

Nesta‘s conditions are not OK yet. The problem is his adductor continues to be annoying. Pato had a muscle strain and given his medical history, we are still trying to understand the causes of all of these problems. I do not think he will be sent the U.S.A. for treatment. Maxi Lopez‘s condition will be evaluated and we will probably see him next week but it’s hard to see him in London.”

The tactician then conrinue describing the conditions for his midfield players:

Boateng is recovering. Against Arsenal we started him because we were forced to, and it was an emergency. Let’s see if we can get him for the match against Lecce. Aquilani is rather better and I think he is the player closest for returning to the field. Merkel has finished the sixth of eight weeks of his reccovery process. I think Seedorf think will stay out of action for another week.”

Mauro Suma (Milan Channel's director): "Aquilani will return against Arsenal, and Boateng will return against Lecce or Parma. Flamini will play for the Primavera tomorrow against Inter."

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 2 2012, 08:09 PM

No Boateng against Arsenal??? Now I'm starting to get scared. unsure.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 2 2012, 09:21 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 2 2012, 08:09 PM) *
No Boateng against Arsenal??? Now I'm starting to get scared. unsure.gif

Arsenal should be the least of our worries, especially in the attacking department.

The most important thing is to get everyone back by Roma.

As for the bit about Pato that Allegri mentioned, the first order of business should be to send him to the US to ge a second, third and fourth oppinion. Why keep insisting on treating him themselves when none of them know WTF they're doing

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 3 2012, 08:27 PM

Allegri: "Antonini has some pain in his flexor muscles, and Emanuelson twisted his ankle but it shouldn't been anything serious."

Posted by: han2503 Mar 3 2012, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 3 2012, 08:27 PM) *
Allegri: "Antonini has some pain in his flexor muscles, and Emanuelson twisted his ankle but it shouldn't been anything serious."

Classic tale at Milan innocent.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 3 2012, 11:08 PM

Emanuelson twitted that his injury is nothing serious. Also, I'd play Mesbah against Arsenal. I find him more solid defensively than Antonini.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 3 2012, 11:14 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 3 2012, 03:27 PM) *
Allegri: "Antonini has some pain in his flexor muscles, and Emanuelson twisted his ankle but it shouldn't been anything serious."

Perfect opportunity for Mesbah to step up on Tuesday against Arsenal.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 3 2012, 11:20 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:08 PM) *
Emanuelson twitted that his injury is nothing serious. Also, I'd play Mesbah against Arsenal. I find him more solid defensively than Antonini.

Agreed.

So did they say that Prince will be back for Arsenal or is it still a doubt?

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 3 2012, 11:26 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 3 2012, 11:20 PM) *
Agreed.

So did they say that Prince will be back for Arsenal or is it still a doubt?


Nope, I think he'll return against Lecce. Which is a huge bummer, considering Muntari can't play in the CL and Ambrosini is suspended. Basically, we have only 3 midfielders available for London: Van Bommel, Nocerino and Emanuelson.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 3 2012, 11:29 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:26 PM) *
Nope, I think he'll return against Lecce. Which is a huge bummer, considering Muntari can't play in the CL and Ambrosini is suspended. Basically, we have only 3 midfielders available for London: Van Bommel, Nocerino and Emanuelson.

And 3 strikers + Pippo?

Has there been any word on Maxi?

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 3 2012, 11:36 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 3 2012, 11:29 PM) *
And 3 strikers + Pippo?

Has there been any word on Maxi?


Maxi will be out, I think. Aquilani should be called up, but he's not ready to play yet. At this point, I suppose a 4-3-3 is inevitable. Shaarawy-Ibra-Binho?

Posted by: han2503 Mar 3 2012, 11:44 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:36 PM) *
Maxi will be out, I think. Aquilani should be called up, but he's not ready to play yet. At this point, I suppose a 4-3-3 is inevitable. Shaarawy-Ibra-Binho?

Robinho in behind most likely

I say if Nesta is fit, we go out with a 3-5-2

Play Abate and Mesbah as wingbacks. With Nocerino and VB center of midfield, Urby, Robs and Ibra roaming upfront.

Atleast that would give us an option off the bench

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 3 2012, 11:50 PM

Sadly, I don't think Nesta is fit.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 4 2012, 12:00 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:50 PM) *
Sadly, I don't think Nesta is fit.

This is just a classic simptom of this season. A player who was supposed to be 100% weeks ago, still isn't fit nearly a month later.

Same thing with Boateng and Aquilani.

So why people wonder about someone like Pato, is beyond me.

He's an injury prone player, so this is just the type of environment he needs to basically stay out all season. Same goes with Aquilani and Nesta now.

And we're only seeing the start of it with Boateng.

It's really funny when I see Pirlo these days, playing practically every minute for Juve this season, while last season he was injured for its majority. This is one of the major reasons why I don't want us to sell Pato. As 75% of the problem comes from our medical team and not the player himself. If Pato is in fact sold this summer and he's suddenly fit for the majority of the season than I don't know what would be left to say about Milanlab

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 4 2012, 09:42 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 3 2012, 11:26 PM) *
Nope, I think he'll return against Lecce. Which is a huge bummer, considering Muntari can't play in the CL and Ambrosini is suspended. Basically, we have only 3 midfielders available for London: Van Bommel, Nocerino and Emanuelson.


How about Flamini ? Is he called ?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2012, 10:00 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 4 2012, 04:00 AM) *
This is one of the major reasons why I don't want us to sell Pato.

This is one of the major reasons why I want us to sell Pato. sad.gif Either the quacks stay, or the duck!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 4 2012, 10:15 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2012, 10:00 AM) *
This is one of the major reasons why I want us to sell Pato. sad.gif Either the quacks stay, or the duck!

If the quacks stay than all the others will be bound to have another injury filled season, not just Pato

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2012, 11:05 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 4 2012, 02:15 PM) *
If the quacks stay than all the others will be bound to have another injury filled season, not just Pato

I know. mellow.gif But that's how things are. The way Kaka and Ronaldo consulted their NT doctors should have been alarm enough. Little was done then, and little is being done now, even though we have pretty much half of our team in the infirmary as of this writing. Even players I never thought of as particularly injury prone.

If the quacks were doing their job well, we'd have minimum injury times, much faster recovery, and not many recurring injuries. Imaging having a full team (like other big clubs), we'd be storming the castles week in, week out.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 4 2012, 01:34 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2012, 01:05 PM) *
I know. mellow.gif But that's how things are. The way Kaka and Ronaldo consulted their NT doctors should have been alarm enough. Little was done then, and little is being done now, even though we have pretty much half of our team in the infirmary as of this writing. Even players I never thought of as particularly injury prone.

If the quacks were doing their job well, we'd have minimum injury times, much faster recovery, and not many recurring injuries. Imaging having a full team (like other big clubs), we'd be storming the castles week in, week out.


All teams have injuries, even the big clubs .. It just differs in our case as everything is under a microscope via MF 96.gif

That said, I do concur that our medical team 'might' not be doing their job 100%. But I will not go down the line and state that everything they do is to worsen our player's conditions.

Kaka and Ronaldo have had an injury plagued career, the later forced him into retirement.

P.S. Maybe we need witch doctors at Milan Lab innocent.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 4 2012, 01:46 PM

Nah, the amount of injuries we've had over the last few years cannot be compared to any other big club's. something's wrong with our medical team and if it takes witch doctors to overcome this problem, so be it!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 4 2012, 01:47 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2012, 11:05 AM) *
I know. mellow.gif But that's how things are. The way Kaka and Ronaldo consulted their NT doctors should have been alarm enough. Little was done then, and little is being done now, even though we have pretty much half of our team in the infirmary as of this writing. Even players I never thought of as particularly injury prone.

Ehem, we changed the lead doctor, didn't we?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2012, 02:08 PM

Um, that's why I said little. unsure.gif I mean, with the amount of injuries we've had these past few seasons, it's practically end-of-the-world alarming. It's a good thing (sheer luck and I must say nice coaching and manly performances from the team) that we are still alive to tell the tale.

Take any other big team, and they will have a few players out of order every now and then. But almost half the first XI out, and when they are back, they break down again?! No, sir, this requires some drastic measures. Either get another backup medical team on board for constant second opinions, or change the training regime, anything!

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 5 2012, 03:50 PM

Allegri: "Boateng is recovering, if everything goes well he should return for Parma"

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This is just too much! Wasn't it Lecce only a few days ago? Speechless.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 5 2012, 04:11 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 5 2012, 03:50 PM) *
Allegri: "Boateng is recovering, if everything goes well he should return for Parma"

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This is just too much! Wasn't it Lecce only a few days ago? Speechless.

dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif

Posted by: William405 Mar 5 2012, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 4 2012, 03:08 PM) *
Um, that's why I said little. unsure.gif I mean, with the amount of injuries we've had these past few seasons, it's practically end-of-the-world alarming. It's a good thing (sheer luck and I must say nice coaching and manly performances from the team) that we are still alive to tell the tale.

Take any other big team, and they will have a few players out of order every now and then. But almost half the first XI out, and when they are back, they break down again?! No, sir, this requires some drastic measures. Either get another backup medical team on board for constant second opinions, or change the training regime, anything!


Did I misread or did you praise Allegri?biggrin.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 5 2012, 06:48 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:26 PM) *
Did I misread or did you praise Allegri?

No you didn't. laugh.gif tongue.gif I've said it a few times before, I'm 50/50 when it comes to Allegri. He's got his faults, and sometimes they show really bad, and he may not be an awesome man-manager, but he's a good coach as well. And frankly, how he'd handled the lengthy injuries to key players, without uttering a word has to count for something.

Had we any other person in-charge, he'd probably be brining up the missing players week in, week out.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 6 2012, 10:24 AM

I have to say, my respect for Allegri is growing by the day.

I still fault his playing philosophy but that's a matter of taste. I'd take him over Leo (the coach NOT the man) anyday.

The way he handled the whole Juve moaning thing, and in a very civilized manner hinted that they should just STFU and play their way to the title was very becoming of a Milan coach. +20 points.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 6 2012, 11:54 PM

I agree with you Jack. But Leo, the coach, really isn't a challenge.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 7 2012, 10:49 AM

We've had worse biggrin.gif Tbh I was worried we would have another Zacch.

But he lost 15 points yesterday for our first half and gained 5 for the second. I think I need to put an Allegri meter in my signature.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 7 2012, 10:58 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 02:49 PM) *
I think I need to put an Allegri meter in my signature.

laugh.gif laugh.gif Great idea! Do it, do it, do it!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 7 2012, 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 7 2012, 10:49 AM) *
We've had worse biggrin.gif Tbh I was worried we would have another Zacch.

But he lost 15 points yesterday for our first half and gained 5 for the second. I think I need to put an Allegri meter in my signature.


Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 8 2012, 10:23 AM

Flamini is out of the match vs. Lecce on Sunday. He hasn't recovered from the injury sustained to his left thigh during the Primavera derby.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 8 2012, 01:01 PM

Brilliant rolleyes.gif

This is really out of this world.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 8 2012, 01:11 PM

Ah phooee!! At this point nothing surprises me. sleep.gif In fact, if half of our team got injured, I wouldn't even blink.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 8 2012, 01:16 PM

Yes, surely, but this is insane now. We must do a change.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 8 2012, 01:34 PM

What interests me is the fact that our players don't just get injured. sad.gif They get injured again and again, and once they are scheduled to return, they get injured again. Pick a player, any player, Nesta, Pato, Flamini, Boateng, Aquilani, Zambrotta, Mexes, Antonini, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Bonera. That's an XI then and there.

As you said earlier in this thread, Fillipo, this is just...mind blowing. Probably the only reason nothing concrete is being done in this regard is that we're still winning somehow. Had we faltered, injuries would have been the most discussed topic from the management. sleep.gif But as you (and others have) said again and again, something must be done. Otherwise, this thread is going to outpace the "Happy Birthday Thread" like there is no tomorrow.

An odd injury or two, is to be expected, every club has them, all the time. But this is a crisis situation. I still blame the San Siro pitch, uneven as it is. Heck, I was reading, the last 9 injuries to Pato happened in San Siro. You don't read about our players getting injured during training, as you do while playing a match in our stadium. mellow.gif I just hope we can inter can get together and fix the pitch, lay a synthetic one like the Emirates.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 8 2012, 02:18 PM

I don't think it's the pitch. Inter would have suffered equally then; but maybe it's a combination of all together: medical incompetence (mostly), training routines and the San Siro pitch.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 8 2012, 02:38 PM

Well Barbara has come out and said that Milan need a new stadium. Apparently there will be some new facilities in the San Siro by 2015...but she has said that a new stadium is sort of a priority.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 8 2012, 02:40 PM

I can agree with that, and that's what I initially meant. It's a combination, surely has to be. sleep.gif A few years back, there were times when we suffered, but surely not as badly. But you don't get to this stage, this level of injuries with say medical incompetence alone. Also you have to include injury-prone players themselves to the mix.

As for the pitch and inter, well from what I've followed, they've got injury problems of their own past few seasons. Probably not at our level, but for that I'll have to dig deep and see how many players they had out. One thing I'm sure of, though, is that we'll have to fix this mess if we are to stay competitive or attain greatness.

The next few years domestically and Europe are going to be tough, with a lot of teams finding their feet now.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 8 2012, 02:45 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 8 2012, 02:38 PM) *
Well Barbara has come out and said that Milan need a new stadium. Apparently there will be some new facilities in the San Siro by 2015...but she has said that a new stadium is sort of a priority.

It would be kind of heartbreaking leaving San Siro. It is our home, our special home. None of those copy-paste new stadiums can top that.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 02:46 PM

It's a desperate situation, I have no more adjectives that could describe how pissed off I am at our medical team.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 8 2012, 03:25 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 8 2012, 08:15 PM) *
It would be kind of heartbreaking leaving San Siro. It is our home, our special home. None of those copy-paste new stadiums can top that.


I would actually recommend reading the Emirates Stadium wiki. Really informative. They had to start planning for it right from the mid 90s. So nearly 10 years to raise the budget, get the permissions etc.

And I think no stadium feels like home till you actually win a bit in it. And naturally we would need a top architect and and maybe some smart designs inside. Perhaps our friends Messrs. Dolce and Gabbana might have a few suggestions.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 04:36 PM

I'd hate it if we moved out of the San Siro to a generic 50,000 seater like Juve did.

Sure things can be done to improve the situation. San Siro will be undergoing renvoations for the Euro bid IIRC, the turf situation is going to be taken care of for next season as well.

The bigger problem is that we do not own it.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 06:03 PM

San Siro will be renovated, there's no need to build a new stadium. However, it'd be great if Inter get lost and we purchase the stadium for ourselves.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 06:20 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 06:03 PM) *
San Siro will be renovated, there's no need to build a new stadium. However, it'd be great if Inter get lost and we purchase the stadium for ourselves.

Is that possible?

Because even if it is a joint effort with Inter and the clubs buy it together, it would still be a huge improvement. The matchday revenue for both clubs would really improve things for both teams.

With a couple of renovations and improvements, San Siro is one of the best stadiums in Europe. I can't even imagine us going out on a big CL night in some generic stadium

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 06:27 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 8 2012, 06:20 PM) *
Is that possible?


Yes, why not.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 06:27 PM) *
Yes, why not.

Because they're owned by the council(?), and when it's talked about they make it sound like it's not an option. The only option would be a new stadium

Don't know, that's how it sounds to me

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 8 2012, 06:42 PM

Yes, city council wouldn't want to sell because they are making good money from it currently.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 8 2012, 07:23 PM

The youngster, Mattia Valoti, is injured again after spraining his ankle. He only returned from injury last week.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 8 2012, 07:37 PM

And don't forget both Merkel and Strasser, another two youngsters. sad.gif Leaves nothing to be said.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 8 2012, 06:42 PM) *
Yes, city council wouldn't want to sell because they are making good money from it currently.


Ah, but I remember reading somewhere that we wanted to purchase it. Anyway, I wouldn't want us to purchase another stadium nevertheless. San Siro is our legendary home turf, and when it's done renovating, it will look awesome!

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 8 2012, 07:45 PM

Merkel's case is quite interesting. Played quite much at Genoa and just when he got back at Milan he got injuried. Unless Milanello has radiated facilities, I have no idea what could be wrong with us.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 07:59 PM

Cassano has been training with the ball for the last 10 days and seems in decent shape. In the most optimistic hypothesis, he could start playing in less than a month.

Gattuso has been training regularly with the rest of the team for days, and he might be called up by Allegri for Lecce. Though he has only 25-30 minutes on his feet.

Antonini should recover for Sunday, and Aquilani might play from the start.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/78355/milan-riecco-antonio-cassano.shtml

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 08:57 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 07:59 PM) *
Cassano has been training with the ball for the last 10 days and seems in decent shape. In the most optimistic hypothesis, he could start playing in less than a month.

Gattuso has been training regularly with the rest of the team for days, and he might be called up by Allegri for Lecce. Though he has only 25-30 minutes on his feet.

Antonini should recover for Sunday, and Aquilani might play from the start.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/78355/milan-riecco-antonio-cassano.shtml

Some really great news. Especially about Cassano and Aquilani.

Had Cassano played all season he'd have been the top assist man in the league by a mile. He's still in the top 5 I think right now having only played a handful of games

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 09:03 PM

Can't wait for Boateng to get back as well. I think he's almost ready, but they don't want to risk him this weekend.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 09:03 PM) *
Can't wait for Boateng to get back as well. I think he's almost ready, but they don't want to risk him this weekend.

I'd rather not play him until the CL QF tbh. He'll most likely be injured again after a single game.

Better not waste it in a Serie A game rolleyes.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 8 2012, 10:16 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 8 2012, 09:26 PM) *
I'd rather not play him until the CL QF tbh. He'll most likely be injured again after a single game.

Better not waste it in a Serie A game rolleyes.gif


That will happen if we rushed him like we did against Arsenal in the first leg. This time around he's had all the time necessary to recover.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 8 2012, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 10:16 PM) *
That will happen if we rushed him like we did against Arsenal in the first leg. This time around he's had all the time necessary to recover.

We'll see, but after what I've seen this season, I wouldn't rule it out rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 8 2012, 11:40 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 8 2012, 10:16 PM) *
That will happen if we rushed him like we did against Arsenal in the first leg. This time around he's had all the time necessary to recover.

Nevertheless I'm not sure. These days you can't be sure of anything, look at Aquilani or Flamini, one minute back in the team, the next minute out for another week or so.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 9 2012, 02:04 AM

Let's be optimistic, peeps. tongue.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 9 2012, 08:33 AM

Wrong topic to say that biggrin.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 9 2012, 03:44 PM

Training Updates: Aquilani trained regularly with the group. Flamini & Boateng worked in the gym.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 9 2012, 08:32 PM

QUOTE
A.C. Milan communicates that Rino Gattuso can not yet be called for an official game, due to a problem of dosage of the drug taken. It's provided a progressive reduction in the dose that will allow the quick return of Rino Gattuso in the competitions.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 9 2012, 08:57 PM

There's always something... It's amazing that we are where we are with so many players out during the season. Not many teams would be able to cope with it as well as us.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 9 2012, 10:56 PM

Really now?

Incorrect dosages???

Did we find these doctors from a third world country? Because this is getting beyond ridiculous. I'd forfeit signing anyone in the summer if the medical team were to be cleared out

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 10 2012, 03:36 AM

Meh dry.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 10 2012, 12:29 PM

laugh.gif Bravo MilanLab. you're doing your job perfectly.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 10 2012, 07:34 PM

Cassano did some light training on the bike while Maxi Lopez, Pato and Boateng worked out in the gym. Mattieu Flamini is following a personalized training program.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 11 2012, 02:24 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 10 2012, 02:56 AM) *
Incorrect dosages???

Is there anything these quacks can't do?! laugh.gif biggrin.gif They've done everything short of killing our players!

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 11 2012, 03:10 AM

I don't think they gave him incorrect dosages. Rather, they gave him a drug, which is not allowed according to the anti-doping prescriptions, or something like that. Thus, they must reduce the dosage until a certain point when he can start playing again. That's how I understood it anyway.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 11 2012, 04:05 AM

Yeah, I actually read about it on Football Italia, a little while before you poster it here. smile.gif I was reading Carlo Ancelotti's statement that he can't bring Del Piero to Paris, instead will try to sign Pato again in the summer. And well, frankly this is less of an injury, more of an unfortunate even, this Gattuso eye problem.

I was actually interested in how they predicted his return, and then delayed again. Not the first time this has happened. Seriously though, their performance as a medical unit has been pretty bad. sad.gif And personally my season has been ruined/soured a little with all these injuries. Pato, Aquilani, Nesta and Boateng in particular.

While we haven't suffered too much, it'd have been cool seeing a full strength, first XI consistently all year.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 11 2012, 04:10 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 11 2012, 04:05 AM) *
While we haven't suffered too much, it'd have been cool seeing a full strength, first XI consistently all year.


Aye. I don't think any team in Europe has the number of injuries we have. Let's hope this is the last year, and from next season we don't suffer such a massive blowout.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 11 2012, 04:43 AM

Europe? I'd be surprised if any team in the world got as many injuries as us in these 8 months. mellow.gif I barely remember how a few of our players looked in our shirt, seeing how long they've been out injured. At least last season we got to see our first XI in full form and fitness. This season we've barely kicked into fifth gear.

One of the charms of being a fan is watching the best possible combination duke it out with the other teams and seeing how they weigh up to the competition. Team chemistry. That's been missing. And frankly, how the goals have been coming from the midfield, we'd probably be lost without them. Nocerino and Boateng hatricks, anyone?!

But yeah, agreed, let's hope for the best. biggrin.gif For the remaining few months, and years to come!

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 13 2012, 06:40 PM

Situation on the injured players:

Seedorf and Maxi Lopez should start training regularly with the rest of the squad this week and should be available for Parma. Same argument for Boateng, but in order to be cautious, he will be preserved for Roma. Nesta and Pato are the ones with the most delicate situations, given their physical fragilities. The objective is to recover them both for Roma, but Catania seems a more plausible scenario. Flamini had a minor injury in the Primavera match against Inter, should be ready in two weeks. Merkel will be out for another month, whilst Cassano and Strasser have still a lot of work to do.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc1Njc5

If we want to reach the Coppa Italia final next week, we must play Boateng. That's all I have to say.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 13 2012, 06:51 PM

Thanks for the update, X-Off. smile.gif Ah, Maxi Lopez, almost forgot that we signed this guy! blush.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Mar 13 2012, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 13 2012, 01:40 PM) *
Situation on the injured players:

Seedorf and Maxi Lopez should start training regularly with the rest of the squad this week and should be available for Parma. Same argument for Boateng, but in order to be cautious, he will be preserved for Roma. Nesta and Pato are the ones with the most delicate situations, given their physical fragilities. The objective is to recover them both for Roma, but Catania seems a more plausible scenario. Flamini had a minor injury in the Primavera match against Inter, should be ready in two weeks. Merkel will be out for another month, whilst Cassano and Strasser have still a lot of work to do.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc1Njc5

If we want to reach the Coppa Italia final next week, we must play Boateng. That's all I have to say.

I really hope we beat them in the Coppa

Posted by: han2503 Mar 13 2012, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Mar 13 2012, 10:44 PM) *
I really hope we beat them in the Coppa

Yep, 3 games, 2 lost , 1 won. Terrible record against them this season. I really hope we can end their unbeaten run.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 13 2012, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 14 2012, 02:48 AM) *
I really hope we can end their unbeaten run.

It won't be "beating" them, in the truest sense of the word, anyway. wink.gif I want them defeated in the league!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 13 2012, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 13 2012, 10:51 PM) *
It won't be "beating" them, in the truest sense of the word, anyway. wink.gif I want them defeated in the league!

They're still undefeated for the season though. I think that a loss could really be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

They're desperately hanging on to that unbeaten tag. In all honesty they should have probably lost their last few games, namely against Chievo, yet they still somehow manage to hold on. Simply because of that tag. Losing could have a demoralizing effect on them. And one loss could spark a terrible run.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 13 2012, 11:03 PM

Aye, that's why I want one, I want one, I want one. smile.gif It would have been awesome had the Muntari goal gone in.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 13 2012, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 13 2012, 11:03 PM) *
Aye, that's why I want one, I want one, I want one. smile.gif It would have been awesome had the Muntari goal gone in.

Still, I think it would be great for them to end the season as unbeaten losers. Nothing more satisfying than lifting that Scudetto while they still cling onto that unbeaten tag.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 13 2012, 11:13 PM

I think as soon as they realize they have no chance for the title, they'll start losing a few games here and there. right now they're still hopeful.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 13 2012, 11:19 PM

Unbeaten losers sounds good, like I said a few days back, but I don't want it to come to this. sleep.gif Giving them an unbeaten season to put in record books is not my idea of a good time, even if it doesn't give them a title to go with it. A funny irony would be seeing Juventus lose in the last match. Cruel, I know.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 14 2012, 12:08 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 13 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Yep, 3 games, 2 lost , 1 won. Terrible record against them this season. I really hope we can end their unbeaten run.

You mean 2 lost and 1 tie, right?

QUOTE
Unbeaten losers sounds good, like I said a few days back, but I don't want it to come to this.

Maybe the devil lies in the detail, but I don't care for this particular detail as long as we stay top. If you ask me, they can end this season with 13 draws.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 14 2012, 12:12 AM

According to Mediaset, Seedorf, Maxi and Flamini should be available for Parma, Boateng for Juventus, and Pato and Nesta for Roma.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-tornano-seedorf-e-maxi-lopez.shtml?refresh_cens

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 14 2012, 12:53 AM

Hope there won't be any setbacks, I really want us to have our first choice midfield for the reminder of CL.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 14 2012, 01:00 AM

We need Nesta, Aquilani, Boateng and Pato fully fit till the end of the season now. NO MORE INJURIES PLEASE!!!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 14 2012, 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 14 2012, 12:08 AM) *
You mean 2 lost and 1 tie, right?

Maybe the devil lies in the detail, but I don't care for this particular detail as long as we stay top. If you ask me, they can end this season with 13 draws.

Yep, typo there

Agreed, at the end of the day their unbeaten record will only be remembered for being such a failure if they don't win the Scudetto

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 14 2012, 12:53 AM) *
Hope there won't be any setbacks, I really want us to have our first choice midfield for the reminder of CL.

Agreed. That's as crucial as having Nesta/Mexes partnering Thiago in defence. That being said, we already have VB suspended for the first leg. So that's a huge loss. Hoping we'll face a terrible side because without VB we struggle a lot against top opposition. He just stabilizes our midfield

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 14 2012, 01:00 AM) *
We need Nesta, Aquilani, Boateng and Pato fully fit till the end of the season now. NO MORE INJURIES PLEASE!!!

Boateng, Pato and Nesta are the most worrying. They've been declared fit countless times this season only to play a single game and get injured again. I really don't get what the medical team are doing with these players, all muscle injuries as well IIRC

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 14 2012, 04:47 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 14 2012, 02:05 PM) *
Boateng, Pato and Nesta are the most worrying. They've been declared fit countless times this season only to play a single game and get injured again. I really don't get what the medical team are doing with these players, all muscle injuries as well IIRC


Boateng played against Arsenal due to the importance of the game. He wasn't fully fit, and that's what caused his setback. Pato and Nesta are special cases. They've always been problematic players due to their fragilities. Luckily we have Mexes who can cover Nesta more than fine, and Robinho who does a much better job than Pato. Still, having them both fit can only be a plus.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 14 2012, 04:50 PM

Robinho left training early today due to an ankle problem. His presence for Parma is to be evaluated.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-preoccupazione-per-robinho.shtml

Posted by: acid911 Mar 14 2012, 04:55 PM

Groovy. headphone.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 14 2012, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 14 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Boateng played against Arsenal due to the importance of the game. He wasn't fully fit, and that's what caused his setback. Pato and Nesta are special cases. They've always been problematic players due to their fragilities. Luckily we have Mexes who can cover Nesta more than fine, and Robinho who does a much better job than Pato. Still, having them both fit can only be a plus.

That's not the only occasion that Boateng has returned for a maximum of 2 games and spent a month out injured, rinse, repeat.

Pato has been doing badly when he's returned from injury because he simply has not had a run for more than 3 games this season where he's been 100% fit. It's impossible. And the more injuries, the less work with the ball that he'll do, thus the more time it will take him to get back match fitness.

As for Nesta, they've been saying next week, next month, etc, etc for a while, yet he's always not ready. And then another injury all over again.

It's been the same thing with these 3 all season. You can say Pato and Nesta are injury prone etc, etc. But looking at this season, you can say the same with Boateng and other players who have basically been on the peripherals of the team due to constant injuries.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 14 2012, 04:50 PM) *
Robinho left training early today due to an ankle problem. His presence for Parma is to be evaluated.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-preoccupazione-per-robinho.shtml

We'd be f@cked if it's something long term.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 14 2012, 06:32 PM

I stopped caring long time ago. Kind of expected.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 15 2012, 08:49 AM

Abate pulled a muscle during training and will miss the game vs Parma, maybe more.

We are cursed, can't find another explanation.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 15 2012, 02:16 PM

OFFICIAL: Abate is out for 2 weeks a for muscle strain in his right thigh. He'll miss matches vs Parma, Juve & Roma.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 15 2012, 02:38 PM

Great. We'll enjoy the shows Bonera will give us as RB.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 15 2012, 03:29 PM

NO!!! sad.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 15 2012, 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 15 2012, 02:38 PM) *
Great. We'll enjoy the shows Bonera will give us as RB.


Allegri tried today Antonini as RB.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 15 2012, 04:21 PM



Will someone please kidnap these people?

Posted by: han2503 Mar 15 2012, 04:51 PM

Another muscle problem. Why am I not surprised....

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 15 2012, 06:09 PM

If I was Galliani, instead of focusing on signing players this summer, I'd concentrate on trying to understand where all these injuries come from. The preparation, training methods and medical staff need to be thoroughly evaluated. IT'S BECOME UNBEARABLE!!!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 15 2012, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 06:09 PM) *
If I was Galliani, instead of focusing on signing players this summer, I'd concentrate on trying to understand where all these injuries come from. The preparation, training methods and medical staff need to be thoroughly evaluated. IT'S BECOME UNBEARABLE!!!

100% with you

I'd seriously be happy if we did not sign anyone but know for sure that this situation has been taken care of

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 15 2012, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 15 2012, 08:14 PM) *
100% with you

I'd seriously be happy if we did not sign anyone but know for sure that this situation has been taken care of


Agreed. If I was to choose between new signings or a fully fit squad, I'd easily pick the second.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 15 2012, 11:16 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 15 2012, 10:34 PM) *
Agreed. If I was to choose between new signings or a fully fit squad, I'd easily pick the second.

Yep, if we'd had a fully fit squad this season we'd have ran away with the Scudetto. It says a lot when a mediocre team like Juventus is still breathing down your neck at this point in the season.

The contributions from Pato, Robinho and Cassano from last season have been sorely missed. And then there are all the issues with the midfield, I wouldn't know where to start with that.

I'd be happy with a free Montolivo and Astori next summer. As long as a complete overhaul in the medical department is made

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 16 2012, 01:49 AM

Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 16 2012, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 16 2012, 01:49 AM) *
Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.


Merkel and Strasser were new blood, and look where they are now. Nope, gotta fix these injuries problem. New players won't solve anything. They'll just get injured too.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 16 2012, 04:57 AM

It could be the diet. Theres several articles in north america on the study of nutrition and how it can lead to or prevent injuries from occuring.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 16 2012, 11:42 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 16 2012, 01:49 AM) *
Since we can't rely on a genie guaranteeing us a fully fit squad.

I want some new blood in our much needed areas.

We already have a very large squad, and techinically speaking we should have had 2 first 11 sides that can be competitive. Yet ou first choice players are injured as well as their backups.

No, this issue should be the first item on the to-do list. We simply cannot go into next season expecting the same types of problems.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 02:07 AM) *
Merkel and Strasser were new blood, and look where they are now. Nope, gotta fix these injuries problem. New players won't solve anything. They'll just get injured too.

Agreed. Don't forget Maxi Lopez as well who hasn't had a long term injury in I don't know how long, he comes to Milan, and 2 weeks later he's out for the count. Pirlo spent last season out injured, goes to Juve and hasn't missed a game unless it was because of suspension.

I would gaurantee that a player like Pato would most likely stay fit for longer stretches is he were to change teams. His issues started about 3 seasons ago, before that he was one of the least injured players on the team.

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 16 2012, 04:57 AM) *
It could be the diet. Theres several articles in north america on the study of nutrition and how it can lead to or prevent injuries from occuring.

I think the diet plans have been kept the same. It's the medical staff that has been changed a couple of times in recent years, and they have co-incided with all of these injuries. Last season wasn't as bad, but let's not forget that at one point we were playing Thiago in midfield, that;s how dire the situation was at one point last season as well.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 16 2012, 12:39 PM

This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 16 2012, 12:53 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 12:39 PM) *
This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.

Many coaches take a more physical approach to training, that should not mean that suddenly the entire squad should break down

Posted by: William405 Mar 16 2012, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 16 2012, 01:39 PM) *
This situation started when Allegri came in. Under Leo we didn't have so many injuries. And they both employed different preparations and training methods. Leo focused more on training with the ball, Allegri's is more physical, and perhaps that's why we have so many muscular injuries. Someone must look into it.


same could be said about Conte.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 16 2012, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:53 PM) *
Many coaches take a more physical approach to training, that should not mean that suddenly the entire squad should break down

I remember Ottmar Hitzfelds drills used to impact Bayerns team a lot.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 16 2012, 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 16 2012, 08:11 PM) *
I remember Ottmar Hitzfelds drills used to impact Bayerns team a lot.


*Hitzfeld's, Bayern's

tongue.gif


Posted by: X-Offender Mar 17 2012, 01:06 AM

Boateng is getting better, should be ready for Roma.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc1OTIx




























Posted by: Zed.D Mar 17 2012, 09:48 AM

LOL, what a joke!

Forget about Roma, HAVE HIM READY FOR BARCA realmad.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 17 2012, 11:47 AM

First it's Lecce, then it's Parma but he won't play as a precaution, now he's going to miss another Serie A game plus 2 huge cup games against Juve and Barca. Just ridiculous

Posted by: acid911 Mar 17 2012, 12:05 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2012, 05:06 AM) *
Boateng is getting better, should be ready for Roma.

Getting better, is he now. dry.gif mad.gif You had me till should. Like Fillipo said, who cares now. It's a stinking revolving door now, anyone that is ready can come and play any match, get injured, and come back again after another few weeks, or months. I don't think Milanlab should even bother stating their timeline, it does not matter.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 17 2012, 12:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:17 PM) *
First it's Lecce, then it's Parma but he won't play as a precaution, now he's going to miss another Serie A game plus 2 huge cup games against Juve and Barca. Just ridiculous

Don't we play Roma before Barca?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 17 2012, 12:34 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 17 2012, 04:32 PM) *
Don't we play Roma before Barca?

Yeah, it was scheduled for the 25th of this month, they moved it up to 24th. unsure.gif Due to our CL match!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 17 2012, 12:57 PM

Isn't the Roma game sandwiched between the Barca games?

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake I thought it was on week 30 in the league, but it's next week.

Well they always said that he'd miss the Parma game as a precaution but it's still BS that he'll miss the Juve game

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 17 2012, 03:47 PM

No Boateng, no Coppa final.

Posted by: William405 Mar 17 2012, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 17 2012, 04:47 PM) *
No Boateng, no Coppa final.


We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 17 2012, 03:57 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:53 PM) *
We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.


Playing at their home will be much more difficult.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 17 2012, 04:04 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:53 PM) *
We still kicked their *** with Emmanuelson,it isn't impossible.

Yet, the match ended up 1-1. And their now with a goal and home advantage.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 17 2012, 04:10 PM

We need to score two goals or more, and concede only one at max. Very difficult. That's why we need our best players out there. Mexes, Van Bommel, Aquilani, Boateng, Ibra, Binho...

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 17 2012, 04:14 PM

Boateng-Ibra-Tevez will do wonders. And with Cassano and Binho as subs, our attack will be fearsome.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 18 2012, 04:20 PM

Allegri: "Boateng is the closest to recovering. Merkel needs some more time. Seedorf played an hour with the Primavera on Saturday. Robinho won't be available for Juventus".

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc2MDEx

Everyone's being cautious for the Barça game. Allegri knows very well that the only way to bear them is to play with our best possible line-up.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 18 2012, 05:48 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 04:20 PM) *
Allegri: "Boateng is the closest to recovering. Merkel needs some more time. Seedorf played an hour with the Primavera on Saturday. Robinho won't be available for Juventus".

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTc2MDEx

Everyone's being cautious for the Barça game. Allegri knows very well that the only way to bear them is to play with our best possible line-up.

I hope that they do not sacrifice the Roma game for it! It's far more important.

Anyone has any word on whether VB can play against Juve

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 18 2012, 05:53 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 05:48 PM) *
I hope that they do not sacrifice the Roma game for it! It's far more important.

Anyone has any word on whether VB can play against Juve


Not in a million years is Roma more important than Barça. Even if our chances ouf beating them are very slim, you cannot put a league game ahead of such an epic clash.

No idea about van Bommel.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 18 2012, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 05:53 PM) *
Not in a million years is Roma more important than Barça. Even if our chances ouf beating them are very slim, you cannot put a league game ahead of such an epic clash.

No idea about van Bommel.

For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

They're both hugely important games, but not playing an important player because Barca are a few days away would be stupid

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 18 2012, 07:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 06:16 PM) *
For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

They're both hugely important games, but not playing an important player because Barca are a few days away would be stupid


For you, that is. But I highly doubt any of the players care about the Roma game more than for the Barça one. The pressure, importance and prestige are too big.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 18 2012, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2012, 10:16 PM) *
For me it's more important as losing the 4 point gap would make it difficuluilt for us especially if we get KO'd of the CL on top of that.

It's 3 point gap, man. innocent.gif unsure.gif It won't come to that if we somehow end up with same points, because of the head-to-head, they'll give the title to Juventus. At most we can fudge up one match in the league. That is unless, Juventus drop a few points as well. Even if we draw one, and they don't, it'll start getting too close for comfort.

That's why I want to see either Napoli or inter putting Juventus at their place. The sooner, the better!

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 18 2012, 10:25 PM

Juventus got a record to break. More draws will come for them. And I don't understand all this sacrifice thing. We have a squad with 35 players and even though 11 of them are injured/suspended we still have a good squad, especially knowing that most of them, 5-6 players will return within 10 days.

The derby against Roma will not be decisive and we can win against them without sending in the best squad. But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 18 2012, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 19 2012, 02:25 AM) *
But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.

It already is. unsure.gif It was scheduled for 25th, they moved it up one day to 24th. Sure, I won't mind playing it a month late, but chances for that happening are really slim.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 18 2012, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 18 2012, 10:25 PM) *
The derby against Roma will not be decisive and we can win against them without sending in the best squad. But I strongly think that for the sake of Italy's coefficient, the game against Roma will be re-scheduled.


Since when is Milan-Roma a derby? blink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 18 2012, 11:28 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 10:08 PM) *
It's 3 point gap, man. innocent.gif unsure.gif It won't come to that if we somehow end up with same points, because of the head-to-head, they'll give the title to Juventus. At most we can fudge up one match in the league. That is unless, Juventus drop a few points as well. Even if we draw one, and they don't, it'll start getting too close for comfort.

That's why I want to see either Napoli or inter putting Juventus at their place. The sooner, the better!

It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I don't think we'll be giving our lead away, but the Roma game is essential in acheiving that.

I have a feeling that Inter will hold them to a draw. Do what they did to us by sitting back for the 90 minutes and get a point off them. Ranieri is great at doing that

Posted by: acid911 Mar 18 2012, 11:48 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 03:28 AM) *
It's still 4 points. they'll have to get 4 points on us to be level on points.

I know, and they pretty much can. tongue.gif When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 19 2012, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:48 PM) *
I know, and they pretty much can. tongue.gif When you have 30 odd points to play with, anything can happen. My only solace is that they do have some really, really tough matches, and we've put a lot of our tough ones behind. Plus, we may, just may get a lot of our injured soldiers back again. So as of this writing, I am fairly, fairly confident.

But just like with Real Madrid today, nothing is certain. We do keep a lot of 1-0 up until the hour mark, so.

30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

But imo if we get past the next handful of games (still retaining a significant lead of course), we can be very confident of winning this thing. That's why I count the Roma game as crucial, because if Juve win and we lose points in that than we'll put ourselves in a right old mess. Juve, Roma, Barca. Those are 3 huge games that we have to play in a matter of a few days. Something has to give and we're seemingly not going to be getting anyone back before the Barca game (maybe Robs and Prince but even they are still big doubts). I can't see how we're going to cope with that since we can't actually rotate the team given the injuries.

I'm thinking, if Boateng and Robinho are back by the Roma game we could go for these 3 formations for the 3 games. Also VB could still not be ready for Juve as well

Juve:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Aqui--VB/Ambro--Nocerino
Urby
Maxi--Ibra

Roma:
Antonini--Mexes--Thiago--Mesbah
Urby--VB--Noce/Sully
Boateng
Robinho--Ibra

Barca:
Zambro/Bonera--Mexes--Thiago--Antonini
Aqui--Ambro--Nocerino
Boateng
Ibra--Robs


That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game

Posted by: acid911 Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
30 points is still a big amount to play with agreed.

Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. smile.gif Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:03 AM) *
That's as much lee-way as we can have in terms of resting some players. Maybe give Nocerino a rest in the Roma game if Boateng and Robs are back so we can push Urby back in midfield. Obviosuly Ambro can't play the Roma game as we need him as fresh as possible for Barca. While a game under their belt will do Boateng and Robinho some good, so hoefully they'll be back by the Roma game

True. dry.gif Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. sad.gif Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 19 2012, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 19 2012, 12:12 AM) *
Yeah, even if you win 7 games, you get 21 points, comfortably. smile.gif Still leaves 9, which can crucially go either way. Good thing is that we're ahead of them at this point in time, thanks to the last couple of matches that Juventus drew after our match with them. Had they won, it would have been fire in heaven.


True. dry.gif Silva, along with Nocerino and Van Bommel get no rest at all. sad.gif Whatsoever. Thiago I can understand, and he probably can take it, Bommel not so much as this age, but he's dragging along. Nocerino is probably one guy who has played the most minutes (not just matches) this season. He deserves a break.

PS. Define hoefully, please?! tongue.gif biggrin.gif

It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary happy.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 19 2012, 12:27 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 04:16 AM) *
It's "hoe-fully" I can't define it for you, look it up on urban dictionary

I'm too frightened to. Honestly. unsure.gif laugh.gif Besides, forget dictionaries, I've got something better for you:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM

What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 19 2012, 03:14 AM

I like your thinking behind the formation Xoff, but like you said with such a big risk to be taken in such an important game, I can hardly see Allegri looking it to try it.

But just imagine if he were to use it an obtain a positive result with it against the mighty Barcelona. EPIC! cool.gif

Allegri would definitely deserve some praises.

Posted by: milanbuf88 Mar 19 2012, 03:36 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 09:26 PM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


I'd love that formation. Best way to get all of our difference makers on the pitch and avoid using the chokers.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 19 2012, 07:24 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 10:59 PM) *
Since when is Milan-Roma a derby? blink.gif


It always has been. I remember the fuss about this game when we used to suck their balls in San Siro and Olimpic stadium too. Just so they're 6th now, doesn't mean it's not a derby. Inter is 7nth but it's still a derby.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.


That's what I think too. 2 days ago I wrote a piece for my site http://acmilan-shqip.org/sq/lajme/takohemi-me-barcelonen-prap/

Posted by: han2503 Mar 19 2012, 11:28 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 02:26 AM) *
What if we play against Barça like this:

Abbiati
Abate - Nesta - Mexes - Emanuelson
Aquilani - T. Silva - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


On paper, it would be a 4-3-1-2, but in practice Abate, Thiago and Emanuelson would play on the same line, offering the adequate protection to Nesta and Mexes.

Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes
Abate - T. Silva - Emanuelson
Aquilani - Nocerino
Boateng
Robinho - Ibrahimovic


A sort of 2-3-3-2, which would allow us to crowd the midfield and give as little breathing space to Barça as possible. Luis Enrique adopts it at Roma, but the midfield he deploys is too offensive-minded and the team is left vulnerable to counterattacks. I knows it's too risky to try it in such an important game, but I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.

That's great, and we'd still have two games to practice with it (in theory), too bad we don't have the players to play it with Nesta and Abate certainly out and Boateng still unsure.

I just posted something in the other thread about a 3 man defensive line if Nesta were to be fit. Your formation could easily switch into that state while we're defending

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 19 2012, 07:24 AM) *
It always has been. I remember the fuss about this game when we used to suck their balls in San Siro and Olimpic stadium too. Just so they're 6th now, doesn't mean it's not a derby. Inter is 7nth but it's still a derby.



That's what I think too. 2 days ago I wrote a piece for my site http://acmilan-shqip.org/sq/lajme/takohemi-me-barcelonen-prap/

It's still not a derby, just like a Real-Barca game is not a derby. A derby is when teams from the same City play against each other

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 19 2012, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:28 AM) *
It's still not a derby, just like a Real-Barca game is not a derby. A derby is when teams from the same City play against each other


Yep, or when teams from the same region, like Catania-Palermo etc. That's what's called a derby. Milan-Roma have nothing in common to be called a derby.

Back on topic, Allegri in his press conference today said that Mexes and Seedorf are recovered for tomorrow, whilst Boateng will surely make it for Roma. Pato's return is yet unknown, and van Bommel is still unavailable for back problems. Robinho is trying to make it for Saturday, and they'll try to recover Abate for about ten days, meaning no Barcelona for him.

So many injuries. We recover two players, lose three. It's always like this. sad.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 19 2012, 03:28 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 03:24 PM) *
Yep, or when teams from the same region, like Catania-Palermo etc. That's what's called a derby. Milan-Roma have nothing in common to be called a derby.

Back on topic, Allegri in his press conference today said that Mexes and Seedorf are recovered for tomorrow, whilst Boateng will surely make it for Roma. Pato's return is yet unknown, and van Bommel is still unavailable for back problems. Robinho is trying to make it for Saturday, and they'll try to recover Abate for about ten days, meaning no Barcelona for him.

So many injuries. We recover two players, lose three. It's always like this. sad.gif

VB is a huge miss for tomorrow... No mention if he'll be back for Roma?

Hopefully Robs and Boateng are back for Roma so they can have a game under their belts. I read on the official site that Nesta has been training regularly with the team, so your line-up is still an option...


Posted by: X-Offender Mar 19 2012, 03:32 PM

Nah, forget about it. Allegri said that he'll rest Ambro for Roma in order to have him fresh for Barça. I guess it'll be the usual 4-3-1-2, with Zambro and Antonini on the flanks. At least we'll have Mexes-Thiago as CBs and hopefully Aquilani-Nocerino-Boateng-Robinho to support Ibra.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 19 2012, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2012, 03:32 PM) *
Nah, forget about it. Allegri said that he'll rest Ambro for Roma in order to have him fresh for Barça. I guess it'll be the usual 4-3-1-2, with Zambro and Antonini on the flanks. At least we'll have Mexes-Thiago as CBs and hopefully Aquilani-Nocerino-Boateng-Robinho to support Ibra.

Obviously he was never going to change formation, but it looked good on paper...

Zambro cannot start against Roma if we're going to play him against Barca though. Don't think he can handle that, Bonera should start one of the games on the right or Antonini and Mesbah can play against Roma

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 19 2012, 06:04 PM

I just pray no further injuries occur during these days.

Posted by: servbot Mar 19 2012, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 18 2012, 07:26 PM) *
I'm too afraid that Ambrosini and Antonini/Zambrotta/Mesbah will choke big time against Messi and co.



+1

I like your formation because of this. Put the best guys out there we have available.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 21 2012, 04:21 AM

QUOTE
Zlatan Ibrahimovic was in doubt with flu symptoms, but played the first 45 minutes before making way for Maxi Lopez.

He went off due to a back problem. Maxi Lopez had a wonderful game, as on top of the goal he fought hard and can also play alongside Ibra.

http://www.football-italia.net/16885/allegri-milan-had-no-more

Posted by: acid911 Mar 21 2012, 04:27 AM

Dandy. sad.gif Just dandy.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 22 2012, 07:50 PM

Alexandre Pato will fly to America for a specialist consultation on his injury, while Milan lose Pippo Inzaghi for three weeks.

The Rossoneri continue to struggle with an injury crisis and it seems Pato’s on-going muscular problems are not clearing up.

This afternoon the club announced Pato will be flying to Atlanta, Georgia, on Monday with chief medical staff Jean Pierre Meersseman and Bruno Dominici.

“Pato will undergo medical tests and a specialist consultation with Professor Frederick Carrick at the Life University of Marietta.”

Milan also confirmed that veteran hitman Inzaghi suffered a right thigh strain during the Coppa Italia semi-final with Juventus.

“Save for complications, the prognosis is two to three weeks.”

http://www.football-italia.net/16943/pato-and-inzaghi-injuries

Posted by: han2503 Mar 22 2012, 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 22 2012, 07:50 PM) *
Alexandre Pato will fly to America for a specialist consultation on his injury, while Milan lose Pippo Inzaghi for three weeks.

The Rossoneri continue to struggle with an injury crisis and it seems Pato’s on-going muscular problems are not clearing up.

This afternoon the club announced Pato will be flying to Atlanta, Georgia, on Monday with chief medical staff Jean Pierre Meersseman and Bruno Dominici.

“Pato will undergo medical tests and a specialist consultation with Professor Frederick Carrick at the Life University of Marietta.”

Milan also confirmed that veteran hitman Inzaghi suffered a right thigh strain during the Coppa Italia semi-final with Juventus.

“Save for complications, the prognosis is two to three weeks.”

http://www.football-italia.net/16943/pato-and-inzaghi-injuries

Finally, they take positive action in Pato's case. If they hadn't I could have easily seen them declaring him fit in a week's time and him getting injured 30 minutes into a match. Hopefully competent doctors will be able to treat whatever his problem is. Who knows, we might discover that they've been mistreating his condition due to a bad diagnosis as has been the usual case with MilanLab...

Having said that, I don't think we'll be seeing him on the pitch again this season. And to think it started so well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwNEW7_L504&feature=related

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 22 2012, 09:54 PM

Nope, he won't be playing for the rest of the season. What a crap year for him.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 22 2012, 10:05 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 22 2012, 09:54 PM) *
Nope, he won't be playing for the rest of the season. What a crap year for him.

Yep, but if it means getting this resolved 100% than it will be worth it.

I think sending him out to the US means that the Club will give Pato more time. That being said, I still believe we'll be going after Tevez 100%

Pato is clearly highly regarded by Berlu (Barbara aside). While Galliani has a thing for Tevez.

If this happens I don't know what would happen with Robs, I'd want to keep him as well, you never know, and as long as Allegri can keep all 5 guys happy than we wouldn't have to worry about our attacking line for quite some time

Posted by: acid911 Mar 23 2012, 02:03 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 23 2012, 02:05 AM) *
If this happens I don't know what would happen with Robs, I'd want to keep him as well, you never know, and as long as Allegri can keep all 5 guys happy than we wouldn't have to worry about our attacking line for quite some time

My thoughts exactly. smile.gif And it's not like Pato draws a big enough salary to punch a hole or two in our finances. I imagine, him and Maxi Lopez are quite manageable when it comes to yearly cost. Tevez will cost a fair bit, though.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 23 2012, 01:15 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 23 2012, 02:03 AM) *
My thoughts exactly. smile.gif And it's not like Pato draws a big enough salary to punch a hole or two in our finances. I imagine, him and Maxi Lopez are quite manageable when it comes to yearly cost. Tevez will cost a fair bit, though.

Yeah, Robs is on a much better salary than Pato.

As for next season if we do end up having all of these players, I don't know where Maxi would fit into the equation

Posted by: acid911 Mar 23 2012, 02:10 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:15 PM) *
Yeah, Robs is on a much better salary than Pato.

Aye. smile.gif I thought it was low a few years back (when he was scoring goals left and right), but now I think it's perfectly perfect (considering Pato's injury crises, or should I say, crisi in plural, as in cry-sigh).

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 23 2012, 05:15 PM) *
As for next season if we do end up having all of these players, I don't know where Maxi would fit into the equation

Dash it all, I'll try and it stuff him into the equation just for the heck of it. tongue.gif It's not we have a team full of meta-humans anyway, particularly if Inzaghi says the final goodbye. Five attackers is good enough.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 23 2012, 02:12 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 23 2012, 02:10 PM) *
Aye. smile.gif I thought it was low a few years back (when he was scoring goals left and right), but now I think it's perfectly perfect (considering Pato's injury crises, or should I say, crisi in plural, as in cry-sigh).


Dash it all, I'll try and it stuff him into the equation just for the heck of it. tongue.gif It's not we have a team full of meta-humans anyway, particularly if Inzaghi says the final goodbye. Five attackers is good enough.

5 + Maxi

Ibra, Pato, Cassano, Robinho and Tevez

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 23 2012, 02:13 PM

Ah..Cassano. cry.gif I miss him...

Posted by: acid911 Mar 23 2012, 02:15 PM

Ah. Forgot Cassano. blush.gif Then again, I think of him as more of an attacking midfielder, what with his creative passes and attack creation. If he can fit in the system as an AM, I'll be hunky dory.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 24 2012, 11:27 AM

The amount of matches (per club) that the Serie A players have missed due to injuries in this season:



Posted by: acid911 Mar 24 2012, 11:35 AM

218 against 40. sad.gif Says it all.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 24 2012, 11:36 AM

Unbelievable. How many injuries did we have this season so far? Must be a record.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 24 2012, 11:48 AM

Even if for the sake of argument, we go in with a conservative amount of 10 matches missed per player per injury, we've had almost 22 sad incidents in these 7 or so months. sleep.gif That's what, a player going down during every 3rd match. Absolutely appalling. It also confirms inter players facing massive injuries.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the San Siro pitch has deteriorated beyond insanity. A total of 372 matches have been missed by players from both sides, and we still have a quarter of a season to go. sad.gif It's not just the pitch, it has to be a combination of factors, but there is something beyond fishy about the ground.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 24 2012, 11:55 AM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 24 2012, 11:27 AM) *
The amount of matches (per club) that the Serie A players have missed due to injuries in this season:



It's astonishing looking at our numbers when compared to Juve and then matching it to the league table.

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 24 2012, 11:48 AM) *
Even if for the sake of argument, we go in with a conservative amount of 10 matches missed per player per injury, we've had almost 22 sad incidents in these 7 or so months. sleep.gif That's what, a player going down during every 3rd match. Absolutely appalling. It also confirms inter players facing massive injuries.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the San Siro pitch has deteriorated beyond insanity. A total of 372 matches have been missed by players from both sides, and we still have a quarter of a season to go. sad.gif It's not just the pitch, it has to be a combination of factors, but there is something beyond fishy about the ground.

I don't buy it that it's the San Siro turf causing these issues. The San Siro turf has been cr@ppy for years. And I haven't seen these level of injuries I don't think ever in my life time. Maxi Lopez played a single game at the Juventus stadium, supposedly state of the art pitch where none of their players have gotten injured, yet he's out injured again. There is something fishy, but it's not our home turf, it's something else, whether that is the training program being used, the treatment to injuries, the diets, etc, etc.

All that I know is that Galliani and co. cannot ignore this issue, we simply cannot go into next season with even the slightest possibility of this happening again

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 24 2012, 04:10 PM

^ The Juventus Stadium pitch was horrible.

Gazzetta mentioned today that Robinho won't be available for Barça. My oh my... sad.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Mar 24 2012, 08:32 PM

Allegri: "Thiago Silva will not be available against Barcelona." sad.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 24 2012, 08:36 PM

We can't compete at the highest level like this... thank God Ibra is a freakin' monster otherwise we'd be ****ed.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Mar 24 2012, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Mar 24 2012, 07:32 PM) *
Allegri: "Thiago Silva will not be available against Barcelona." sad.gif

can we be more lucky dry.gif

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 25 2012, 01:39 PM

Silva will miss 3 or 4 weeks. Source: Laura Esposto / twitter

Posted by: han2503 Mar 25 2012, 02:06 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 25 2012, 01:39 PM) *
Silva will miss 3 or 4 weeks. Source: Laura Esposto / twitter

So he'll be out for the Barca tie completely. Just great

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 25 2012, 02:10 PM


Posted by: han2503 Mar 25 2012, 02:13 PM

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 25 2012, 02:10 PM) *

Probably biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 25 2012, 02:16 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 25 2012, 04:06 PM) *
So he'll be out for the Barca tie completely. Just great


Do you actually believe we will progress with Thiago? Doesn't change much instead of swallowing 3 goals we might get 5 past us innocent.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 25 2012, 03:02 PM

Thiago's season might already be over. Tomorrow and on Tuesday we'll know more about it.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-thiago-stagione-finita.shtml?refresh_cens

At this point, I'll just take every injury for granted. This season has been a disaster. I just hope we have a solution so this madness doesn't repeat next season as well.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 25 2012, 03:15 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 25 2012, 02:16 PM) *
Do you actually believe we will progress with Thiago? Doesn't change much instead of swallowing 3 goals we might get 5 past us innocent.gif

At least we'll have a better chance, no matter how slight it might be

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 25 2012, 03:02 PM) *
Thiago's season might already be over. Tomorrow and on Tuesday we'll know more about it.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/milan/articoli/1841/milan-thiago-stagione-finita.shtml?refresh_cens

At this point, I'll just take every injury for granted. This season has been a disaster. I just hope we have a solution so this madness doesn't repeat next season as well.

Just great, great great great

rolleyes.gif

We better pray that Nesta stas fit from now till the end of the season and we get VB back ASAP

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 25 2012, 03:19 PM

He'll be out for 3-4 weeks, it's official. But we all know that's going to be 5-6 weeks, knowing our brilliant medical staff. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: han2503 Mar 25 2012, 03:25 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 25 2012, 03:19 PM) *
He'll be out for 3-4 weeks, it's official. But we all know that's going to be 5-6 weeks, knowing our brilliant medical staff. rolleyes.gif

So that's Barca home and away, Catania, Fiorentina, Chievo and Genoa (supposedly)

Like I said, let's just pray Nesta stays fit and we get VB back to cover that back line instead of having Ambro in there assisting our opposition's goals. I think I've seen Ambro do that exact same sh!t about 4 times this season, the 2 that stick to mind are against Juve and Roma

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 25 2012, 03:40 PM

Ibra: "It's not right: we have too many injuries, something must change. This is an important moment of the season and we should have everyone available".

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Mar 25 2012, 04:46 PM


Posted by: d'Arc.LP Mar 26 2012, 09:11 AM

AC Milan players and their injuries, it looks like Urby is the only one who never go injuried :

QUOTE
AMELIA 18/11-22/11 DISTORSIONE
ABBIATI 09/02-15/02; 18/01-29/01; 26/11-19/12 SPALLA E DISTORSIONE

MEXES 02/04-12/10 CROCIATO
NESTA 17/02-26/02; 07/02-15/02; 25/11-04/01; 03/11-10/11 GINOCCHIO E COSCE
BONERA 20/09-27/09 GINOCCHIO
T. SILVA 20/10-28/10; 24/03-? COSCIA
YEPES 14/12-21/02; 07/10-17/10 CAVIGLIA
ANTONINI 26/10-05/11; 22/09-27/09 CAVIGLIA
ZAMBROTTA 08/12-19/12 GINOCCHIO
ABATE 15/03-?; 17/12-14/01; 30/09-12/10 CAVIGLIA E COSCE

NOCERINO 09/12-17/12 RISENTIMENTO MUSCOLARE
AMBROSINI 13/09-16/10 SPALLA
GATTUSO 09/09-16/03 OCCHIO
FLAMINI 26/08-? LEGAMENTI
AQUILANI 07/01-06/03 CAVIGLIA
BOATENG 17/02-23/03; 15/01-13/02; 13/09-30/09 PROBLEMA MUSCOLARE
MERKEL 26/01-? PROBLEMI MUSCOLARI E GINOCCHIO
SEEDORF 17/02-25/03; 02/01-10/01; 10/10-27/10 PROBLEMI MUSCOLARI
ROBINHO 05/09-05/10; 14/03-? PROBLEMI MUSCOLARI
CASSANO 30/10-? PROBLEMI CARDIACI
PATO 01/03-?; 17/02-25/02; 19/01-15/02; 22/09-18/11 PROBLEMI MUSCOLARI
INZAGHI 20/03-?; 20/08-19/09 PROBLEMI MUSCOLARI
IBRAHIMOVIC 12/09-27/09 ADDUTTORI
MAXI LOPEZ 20/03-?; 23/02-20/03 POLPACCIO

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 26 2012, 09:30 AM

QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Mar 25 2012, 08:16 PM) *






Posted by: rip Mar 26 2012, 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 25 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Do you actually believe we will progress with Thiago? Doesn't change much instead of swallowing 3 goals we might get 5 past us innocent.gif


wow loosing hope before the matches are even played. i know its barca, but have some faith in our team. remember worse teams have drawn matches against barca this season. We certainly can do better.

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 26 2012, 12:36 PM

Good news: Maxi and Robinho trained regularly with the rest of the squad today, so it's possible they might be available for Barça. smile.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 26 2012, 12:52 PM

Dandy. smile.gif We do need the best bench strength we can muster for these two matches!

Posted by: han2503 Mar 26 2012, 01:56 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 26 2012, 11:36 AM) *
Good news: Maxi and Robinho trained regularly with the rest of the squad today, so it's possible they might be available for Barça. smile.gif

So that leaves Thiago, Pippo, Pato, Abate and Cassano still injured?

Or am I missing someone?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 26 2012, 02:19 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 26 2012, 05:56 PM) *
Or am I missing someone?

Flamini and Pato. dry.gif Though it depends where you put Pato here, considering he's out for the season!

Posted by: X-Offender Mar 26 2012, 03:08 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 26 2012, 02:56 PM) *
So that leaves Thiago, Pippo, Pato, Abate and Cassano still injured?

Or am I missing someone?


Pippo, Pato, Cassano and Flamini don't really count, considering their long-term absences. So, it's only Thiago and Abate from our starting line-up plus van Bommel suspended. Hopefully in the second leg only Thiago will be missing.

Posted by: han2503 Mar 26 2012, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 26 2012, 01:19 PM) *
Flamini and Pato. dry.gif Though it depends where you put Pato here, considering he's out for the season!

Yeah, I mentioned Pato, forgot Flamini

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 26 2012, 02:08 PM) *
Pippo, Pato, Cassano and Flamini don't really count, considering their long-term absences. So, it's only Thiago and Abate from our starting line-up plus van Bommel suspended. Hopefully in the second leg only Thiago will be missing.

Is VB back training?

Posted by: acid911 Mar 26 2012, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 26 2012, 07:54 PM) *
Yeah, I mentioned Pato, for got Flamini

Ah yes, just saw it. blush.gif So yeah, Flamini is the major one you left out.

Posted by: Zed.D Mar 26 2012, 10:32 PM

Pato is out for the season?? where'd you hear that acid?

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