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Posted by: mallamkay Sep 14 2006, 08:48 PM

When Sheva left for Chelsea, my heart was broken being his fan for a long time. But now, I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

Posted by: novfan Sep 14 2006, 08:56 PM

When Sheva left for Chelsea, my heart was broken being his fan for a long time. But now, I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 14 2006, 09:20 PM

I think he will score no more than 10 goals in all competitions for Chelsea this season and well, both Chelsea and Sheva will get a nice *** burn and then we will all have a good laugh while we enjoy our new signings Gourcuff and Oliveira kick major ***!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Sep 14 2006, 09:29 PM

he will regret that's for sure.
I somehow think he was FORCED to leave Milan! Milan diretors knew what would happen if they don't pay cash to get rid of relegating so they sold him. am i wrong?!!
because we all knew him well for seven years and it looked impossible for him to leave us...

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 09:40 PM

he will regret that's for sure.
I somehow think he was FORCED to leave Milan! Milan diretors knew what would happen if they don't pay cash to get rid of relegating so they sold him. am i wrong?!!
because we all knew him well for seven years and it looked impossible for him to leave us...

Posted by: Portikins Sep 14 2006, 09:43 PM

Now... who cares about the english student?
He decided to end his career like that... good for him.

Regret? Nah... some russian $$$ will calm him down.

I'm proud of our attacking players.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 09:45 PM

Now... who cares about the english student?
He decided to end his career like that... good for him.

Regret? Nah... some russian $$$ will calm him down.

I'm proud of our attacking players.

Posted by: misha Sep 14 2006, 10:00 PM

I think he has the broken heart. Why has he not been scoring? Chelsea lost the matches in which he scored, he became too desperate as to start taking the free-kicks. Do you think he might have started regreting leaving Milan?

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 10:10 PM

You are talking like we are in the middle of the season. It's only September ,the season just started and He ,like every player, need some time to settle in the club and to english style.

Posted by: X-Offender Sep 14 2006, 10:22 PM

I don't think he's regreting it for all the reasons han wrote above. But I'm pretty sure he misses Italy deeply. He misses his old pals, italian football and Milanello. Too bad he went away, could have become a legend here. Anyway, I don't care anymore cause I think we have a great striker in Oliveira. I wish good luck to Sheva and that's it.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 10:32 PM

I don't think he's regreting it for all the reasons han wrote above. But I'm pretty sure he misses Italy deeply. He misses his old pals, italian football and Milanello. Too bad he went away, could have become a legend here. Anyway, I don't care anymore cause I think we have a great striker in Oliveira. I wish good luck to Sheva and that's it.

Posted by: misha Sep 14 2006, 10:37 PM

You're right, but I think he will find it harder to adapt and I think he will take a lot of time before he settles their, first of all English football is very different to Itailan football, serie A might be more defensive and harder for a striker to adapt but the premiership is much more physical and I don't think it suits him, players like Drogba for example are made for the premiership.

And secondly, it's not just English football he has to adapt to, it's Chelsea's style also, at Milan we play the ball more through the centre and we like to keep the ball on the ground. Chelsea use the wings and make crosses to their strikers from there, and that's why I think that he will find it really hard to adapt

I'm sure he isn't even regretting it. He might not be scoring goals, but what does he care? He has won the scudetto and the CL, if the premiership is added to that list good but other then that I'm sure he isn't that hungry to win anymore. He just went there to retire in merry old London and play golf with his pals. He is living the good life there, I don't know why he would be regretting his move.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 10:55 PM

Come on. He is no like that at all. He has pride ,he wants to do well and to prove that he can make it in the EPL. Sheva is always hungry to win.
I'm surprised you wrote this stuff 

To all: No matter what you believe his reasons were you got to respect him for 7 great years that he has given to us. You respect more than him players that played here much less time and contribute not even close to what he did. People write negative things about him because they are still angry or need more time to get over .

Totally right. I don't care anymore about what he does (although the childish part of me want him to fail miserably at Chelsea, but hey what can I do about it?   ) But still he has done a lot for Milan, so I wish him good luck for his future, I hope his kid is born healthy. But nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: dst Sep 14 2006, 10:57 PM

To all: No matter what you believe his reasons were you got to respect him for 7 great years that he has given to us. You respect more than him players that played here much less time and contribute not even close to what he did. People write negative things about him because they are still angry or need more time to get over .

Posted by: misha Sep 14 2006, 11:05 PM

He did not respect what Milan offered to him (by lying, not leaving) so I'm not going to respect what he offered to us, period!!

Posted by: han2503 Sep 14 2006, 11:20 PM

You don't know all the facts behind his departure. Is this so difficult to believe that he did it for his family. Yes he "traded" Milan for his family happiness.

Posted by: dst Sep 14 2006, 11:21 PM

You don't know all the facts behind his departure. Is this so difficult to believe that he did it for his family. Yes he "traded" Milan for his family happiness.

Posted by: misha Sep 14 2006, 11:34 PM

Come on, For his family happiness?? Do you really think that his family was miserable living in Milan? Where they miserable driving the Ferrari around the cathedrals and the Piazzas? Where they miserable having dinner dates with Giorgio Armani and Roberto Cavalli? Was he miserable having a legeon of fans who treated him as if he was a god and would kiss his feet if he asked them to? Where they miserable having one of the most powerful men in Italy handing them everything they wanted on a silver platter? If they where miserable living that sort of life, then I can't even begin to imagine how people who sleep on the streets and don't have anything to eat but the food they find in the trash feel.

Damn Sheva was living a very hard life. I feel sorry for him.

Posted by: misha Sep 15 2006, 12:14 AM

I've said it a million times before (just did it again in my last post) but obviously it is not enough: I don't give a damn why he left He Fackin' Lied To Us Like The Worst Motherf@cker of Them All ... and that I don't forgive people for!!!

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 15 2006, 12:46 AM

Well ,I don't think he lied about anything bit it's just my humble opinion

Posted by: Portikins Sep 15 2006, 12:47 AM

Well ,I don't think he lied about anything bit it's just my humble opinion

Posted by: gr33k Sep 15 2006, 02:43 AM

I don't condone what he did to us fans with all the lies and deceit but somehow as one of my favourite players I cannot help but to root for him. I do not want Chelsea to do well as a team but that does not mean that I won't cheer for Sheva. Look the lies hurt but he made his choice, he decided to leave and we all have to live with that decision. I hope if not this year that next year he finds his place and leads the EPL in scoring because he is a classy guy and one of the best strikers in the world and there is no denying that.

Posted by: mpok Sep 15 2006, 08:06 AM

Totally right. I don't care anymore about what he does (although the childish part of me want him to fail miserably at Chelsea, but hey what can I do about it?   ) But still he has done a lot for Milan, so I wish him good luck for his future, I hope his kid is born healthy. But nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: pacang Sep 15 2006, 11:33 AM

Sheva's good striker.. we must admit that.. because of what he did for the past seven years..

Definitely agree with han, at Milan he netted lots of goals because of the through balls he got from midfielders.. At Chelsea, Joe Cole will cross and try to find him but will Robben do the same? Lampard will prefer direct shot rather than passing to his strikers.. but he still have Ballack to rely on..

Yes he scored free kicks at milan, but at chelsea, he's gonna wait in line.. Lampard and Ballack comes first..

will he become one of the best striker at Chelsea?
..we just have to wait and see..

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 15 2006, 06:09 PM

Well the issue is definitely that he lied and not that he left...when u leave your club honestly u never go down in ur fan's eyes in reputation as a person(Ballack still keeps his fans, even the Bayern fans who boo the cr@p out of him are gonna howl like mad the moment he puts on that national jersey)...I think there's little doubt he could have handled it better...


AND this is my LAST word on the subject...we are flogging a dead horse when we bring him up, I already pushed him out off my fifa 06 team

Posted by: han2503 Sep 15 2006, 11:52 PM

Well the issue is definitely that he lied and not that he left...when u leave your club honestly u never go down in ur fan's eyes in reputation as a person(Ballack still keeps his fans, even the Bayern fans who boo the cr@p out of him are gonna howl like mad the moment he puts on that national jersey)...I think there's little doubt he could have handled it better...
AND this is my  LAST word on the subject...we are flogging a dead horse when we bring him up, I already pushed him out off my fifa 06 team

Posted by: GULLIVER Sep 16 2006, 04:58 PM

Unhappy, of course unhappy. At least in his job place ( Chelsea ) . I really don't know about the relationship between him and his wife

Posted by: misha Sep 19 2006, 08:02 PM

AC Milan boss wants cut-price Shevchenko return

Carlo Ancelotti has made a cheeky offer to re-sign Andriy Shevchenko

The Ukrainian superstar is still struggling to find his best form in the Premiership following a £30m summer move from AC Milan.

Asked about his former player at a press conference, Ancelotti said: "If Shevchenko wanted to return, we would have him back.

"But not for 45 million Euros!"

The AC Milan coach added: "We want to do well in the next games in order to make our mark in the league and Champions League.

"But, for the moment, we have done nothing.

"We have only demonstrated that we are competitive and the new players are valid acquisitions for this squad."
http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/frontpagenews.asp?newsid=157707

Posted by: amancik Sep 19 2006, 08:14 PM

I don't consider Sheva as a traitor but somehow I don't want to see him back here anymore ... weird feeling

Posted by: novfan Sep 19 2006, 08:38 PM

WHY? WHY? WHY? Why are all of you talking as if he betrayed Milan and so many people on this forum turned against him. Sheva is GREAT he will always be GREAT. He was GREAT for us for all this year and i hope he'll do just fine with Chelsea. I watch him play for Dynamo growing up in Ukraine and he was GREAT and i think he will retire with Dynamo in few years.

Players come and go but MILAN is still GREAT.

Posted by: mallamkay Sep 20 2006, 07:21 PM

i hope he starts scoring. praying for him. always wished he was still with us, but we might not have bought Oliviera

Posted by: misha Sep 25 2006, 08:44 PM

Mourinho backs Sheva

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has assured out of sorts Ukrainian striker Andriy Shevchenko that his place in the Chelsea time is safe. The 29 year-old striker has found the net just once in six league games since making a club record £31 million move from AC Milan in the summer.


"The goals will come. He knows I trust him. He doesn't have that pressure that the sword is waiting and if you don't score a goal you are out of the team,” Mourinho said.

"He will score goals. He is such a top player in the world he has nothing to prove.

"If he is one, two or three months without scoring goals he is still one of the best strikers in the world."

Shevchenko has been largely outperformed by a rejuvenated Didier Drogba thus far, who has seemed to revel in having a natural striker to play alongside.

Mourinho is set to name the Ukrainian in his starting eleven again when his side takes on Levski Sofia in a Champions League group fixture on Wednesday, and insisted his all-round game in the 2-0 defeat of Fulham at the weekend had been impressive.

“I know strikers ... they live for goals. Their happiness is more about scoring goals, but he gave me a big contribution at Fulham,” said the Portuguese boss.

"In the second half, he had a big responsibility for the way we broke down the defensive strategy of Fulham.”

"He knows he didn't score a goal but he plays on Wednesday, because I'm happy with the contribution he gave us.''

Eurosport

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 25 2006, 10:14 PM

That ^ doesn't sound like Murinho... Wait a second... That's Abramovich talking!!!!!

Posted by: dst Sep 25 2006, 10:16 PM

That's Abramovich talking!!!!!

Posted by: KillerMax Sep 25 2006, 11:30 PM

Posted by: dst Sep 25 2006, 11:39 PM

?

Posted by: Nova Sep 26 2006, 12:19 AM

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 12:19 AM

Well it certainly doesnt seem like the Shevchenko I knew !!! The one I knew keeps every single defence on their toes, if not he lets the keeper hang below an extremelly powerful screamer .. And he was consistent with us from day one

I guess he lost motivation .. Moreover, he lost us


I know that by now he's probablly remenicing on his days @ Milan ..

P.s., As an ex-Sheva fan, I know he will score .. Dont want to be too sure and say the highest scorer of the premiership 06-07, but he'll around there ... soon

Posted by: dst Sep 26 2006, 12:26 AM

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 12:33 AM

Since the english student is not a milan player anymore , i'll move this topic.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 12:36 AM

"Players" -
"Past or present AC Milan players"

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 12:39 AM

Although I strongly suggest for him to go f@uck himself

Posted by: amancik Sep 26 2006, 12:40 AM

Not to mention still is the 2nd highest scorer .. 

Although I strongly suggest for him to go f@uck himself

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 12:41 AM

You write this every time

Posted by: dst Sep 26 2006, 12:43 AM

owh come on man, chill, don't need to say that cuz he's already suffering over there ...

Dont you think it would be great for my new sig 

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 12:46 AM

Dont you think it would be great for my new sig 

Unless .. I would be offending his wife ?! Who obviouslly offended me .. .. am I making sence 

Posted by: amancik Sep 26 2006, 12:53 AM

... because english is hard to learn ??? 

Posted by: dst Sep 26 2006, 12:57 AM

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 01:11 AM

No
I remember, at first you used to defend him.
I hate when people insulting him.

Posted by: amancik Sep 26 2006, 01:11 AM

english is the easiest language to learn, isn't it? 
I dunnow, maybe he is having a hard time learning english than settling his life

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Ohh ... poor boy !! 

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 01:13 AM

I think deep in his heart, he felt he should've stayed ...

Ohh ... poor boy !! 

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 01:31 AM

But the fact of the matter is he kissed that blue shirt ..

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Sep 26 2006, 01:36 AM

We should have a new forum rule : "No talking about Sheva"

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 01:39 AM

Wow .. suddenly u sound like G.W. Bush

As I hope we share tolerance to eachother's point of viewzzz

Posted by: dst Sep 26 2006, 01:40 AM

you guys really disgust him, don't you?

Posted by: Nova Sep 26 2006, 03:15 AM

"Players" -
"Past or present AC Milan players"

Posted by: misha Sep 26 2006, 12:25 PM

That traitor is an exception 

Posted by: han2503 Sep 28 2006, 07:08 PM

I see Sheva got another clean sheet last night. I wonder when he will actually score another goal.

And he just lost his title as best marksman in the CL. I'm glad he isn't carrying around that title while playing for Chelsea, which is something that he achieved with Milan, when he was actually called ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD

Posted by: Nova Sep 28 2006, 08:02 PM

I see Sheva got another clean sheet last night. I wonder when he will actually score another goal.

And he just lost his title as best marksman in the CL. I'm glad he isn't carrying around that title while playing for Chelsea, which is something that he achieved with Milan, when he was actually called ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD

Posted by: han2503 Sep 29 2006, 12:18 PM

And he left all that for Chelsea ... 

Posted by: misha Oct 4 2006, 08:42 PM

Sheva: Kaka is my heir

Andriy Shevchenko believes that Brazilian starlet Kaka will become his successor at Milan. “He is an extraordinary player,” stated the Ukrainian.

The Rossoneri have failed to find a replacement for the striker after his summer move to Chelsea and are suffering a goal drought, resulting in three straight goalless draws, but Sheva is confident that things will change.

“There is a man who can become my heir and that is Kaka, he is an exceptional player who still has an enormous potential,” said the player to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

“You haven’t yet seen what he can really do, I am sure he will write an important page in the history of Milan.

“I have heard of a small disagreement between him and Coach Carlo Ancelotti, but there are always discussions in football teams. I don’t think that represents a problem just as long as there is mutual respect.

“Milan’s form? We all go through bad periods as I am not scoring either, but these things can happen. You just need to be patient and wait for things to improve.

“Ricardo Oliveira? He mustn’t feel he is constantly compared with me, when I started everyone reminded me of Marco Van Basten’s performances,” continued Shevchenko, who has just turned 30.

Sheva joined the Stamford Bridge outfit in a £31m move this summer, but so far has been overshadowed by Didier Drogba.

As a result there have been rumours suggesting he may consider a return to Italy, whispers that he immediately dismissed.

“I am glad about the choice I made, this is the life I chose for myself and my family, life goes beyond football,” he added.

“My move had nothing to do with the money and life for a football player is easier in London.

“It’s much more simple and there is not all the pressure there is in Italy, football is a show that finishes once the game is over.

“This is the truth behind my move. If someone doesn’t believe me it’s maybe because they are not used to saying the truth,” concluded Sheva.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/oct4c.html

Posted by: dst Oct 4 2006, 08:45 PM

Oh sh1t ... then he is leaving !!

Posted by: LaPalma Oct 4 2006, 08:56 PM

Posted by: mishie Oct 4 2006, 08:59 PM

theres not the pressure in england because everyone knows that the league is awful!!
how many world class players have gone to the E.P.L in thier prime??

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 4 2006, 09:07 PM

Henry, Bergkamp, Ballack...actually u know I'm not so sure, they qualify...

Posted by: mishie Oct 4 2006, 09:11 PM

henry was bought as a falied winger and wasn't half the player he is now,bergkamp possibly but left the merda after having a nightmare couple of seasons and ballack is 30 not what i call in his prime

Posted by: LaPalma Oct 4 2006, 09:11 PM

Henry, Bergkamp, Ballack...actually u know I'm not so sure, they qualify...

Posted by: mishie Oct 4 2006, 09:16 PM

Do not forget Makelele, Lampard (yes fat Frank), Gerrard, Essien and Robben...and Fabregas...

Posted by: dst Oct 5 2006, 07:01 PM

well EPL is not exactly bad ... I mean yeah I don't really like how the football's played over there at the Big Isle but it's certainly not what I call bad ... at least all the stadiums are full !!

And yes Makelele was in his prime when he went over to Chelski (then Chelsea) ... I still can't get it why Madrid let him go, that decision still haunts him (maybe Diarra will cover up for it). Only Madrid could sell one of their best players for not being a jersey-seller !!

Posted by: kakaisluv Oct 9 2006, 08:37 AM

well i likes the combination of kaka and sheva when he was in milan ... but now im kinda dissapointed by sheva's performance .. hope hell get back to his old ways .. im sad he dint play for ukraine as well cuz of the fever

Posted by: misha Oct 11 2006, 07:38 AM

[B]Why is Shevchenko struggling to adapt to the Premiership?[/B]

Is Chelsea's new boy simply past his best, or are there other reasons for his early-season troubles?

At first, it sounds like one of those ubiquitous and annoying riddles that actually has no answer. Marlon King can do it but Andriy Shevchenko can't. Mark Atkins could do it but Juan Veron couldn't. Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp couldn't do it for a couple of months but then did it brilliantly. Robert Pires took a season before he could do it. Shaun Goater did it from the off. Scandinavians generally do it much better than South Americans. What is it?

Hack life in the Premiership, that's what. Seeing a player as good as Shevchenko struggle so badly is startling and excruciating; while English football is clearly a genre unto itself, no genuinely world-class player should be unable to adapt. Yet the reality is that the purchase of foreign players is such an inexact science - even the master, Arsène Wenger, paid good money for the likes of Pascal Cygan, Kaba Diawara and Oleg Luzhny - that, to borrow from William Goldman's treatise on Hollywood, nobody knows anything: why Shevchenko is struggling, when his struggles will end, whether they will end, or why any world-class players would struggle in England. But here are six possible theories.

1. He just needs time

Arguably, it would be more of a surprise if Shevchenko didn't struggle initially. Most of the greatest foreign players have: Dennis Bergkamp did not score until his eighth game for Arsenal, Thierry Henry until his ninth, during which time both were ridiculed by the tabloids, while Eric Cantona was a bit-part player at Leeds for almost a year before moving across the Pennines to find his natural stage. Indeed, the irony of Shevchenko's woes being exacerbated by the blistering form of Didier Drogba, who for two seasons was apparently not cut out for the Premiership, will not be lost on Jose Mourinho. If the good will out, the great - and Shevchenko is certainly that - should have nothing to worry about.

He just needs time. Generally the chief strugglers have been the attackers. More universal footballers such as Claude Makelele, Gabriel Heinze, Sami Hyypia and Peter Schmeichel have found that their job descriptions have changed very little upon arrival in England. Attackers are different, and yet the perception remains that it is defences which need time to gel; that the back four is the great unrotatable of football. In reality it's the opposite: destruction is intrinsically easier than creation, and attacking players need just as much time as defenders to establish rhythms, connection, understanding.

2. He can't handle the muck and bullets

As Roy Keane said, in reference to Veron, the idea that world-class players cannot handle the "muck and bullets" of the Premiership is nonsense. The notion that English football is too fast, that foreigners don't like it up 'em, is a grotesque oversimplification borne of an almost colonial contempt. If it was as simple as that, England could pick the Watford team and rule the waves. The Premiership is certainly more robust than most leagues, and British beef is not to everyone's taste, but the success of pint-sized technicians like Juninho and Gianfranco Zola suggests it is a long way from being a determining factor. Besides, the likes of Paolo Montero were hardly treading on eggshells while trying to stop Shevchenko in his Serie A days.

3. It's all in his head

Many of the Premiership's greatest flops - Veron, Diego Forlan, Serhiy Rebrov, Albert Luque - have been meek, diffident characters; fairweather friends who squeeze tight to the smooth and recoil at the rough. The same can be said of José Antonio Reyes: he was not so much kicked out of football by the Neville brothers as kicked out of playing his normal game. As his ankles were bitten, so his toes stopped twinkling. Contrast that with Cristiano Ronaldo, who has the mental courage and self-belief to keep knocking at the door no matter how many times he is told where to go.

Reyes and Veron, like Ian Rush when he went to Italy, also exhibited classic symptoms of homesickness. Sometimes, playing football abroad really is like being in a foreign country. Or a player might suffer from personal problems - things which do not relate directly to the job but which impinge significantly upon it. Sometimes, it really can be something as ostensibly straightforward as that: sometimes, for no apparent reason, you get bad vibes which never quite go away. But the fact that Shevchenko, and his wife Kristen Pazik, has occupied as many column inches in the gossip sections of the tabloids as the sports pages suggests that life in London suits him just fine.

4. He is being misused tactically

There is significant precedent here: Veron was signed on a whim in 2001 by an excitable manager who suddenly had money to burn (Ferguson's principal target that summer was Patrick Vieira, an entirely different type of central midfielder) and many feel his failure was down to mismanagement. Hindsight shows he was a poor signing in the first place - United's orchestral midfield had room for only one conductor, the peerless Keane - and then, upon realizing that problem, Ferguson tried to get round it by shunting Veron onto the right of midfield.

In many senses, Veron was a Championship Manager purchase, bought for who he was and what he represented rather than after a conclusive analysis of how he might fit into the team. The same applies to Luque, Rebrov and Kleberson, who were all bought without a specific role in mind. Contrast that with Wenger, who watches players dozens and dozens of times to appraise exactly how they will fit into his team.

There are concerns that Shevchenko, like Veron, is in the wrong place at the right time; that he was bought on status, this time by an excitable owner with money to burn. At Milan he was drip-fed chances by a phalanx of seductively brilliant midfield craftsmen: Andrea Pirlo, Kaka, Clarence Seedorf, Rui Costa. At Chelsea he is more likely to be feeding off long passes from Frank Lampard and Michael Ballack or scavenging for knockdowns from Didier Drogba. Worse still, he is sometimes being used as the nominal wide-right in a 4-3-3 formation, as grotesque a misuse of a natural predator since Johan Cruyff tried to convert Gary Lineker into a total footballer by dumping him on the right wing at Barcelona in 1988.

5. He's out of form

Simple as that. Like Wayne Rooney, Shevchenko hasn't quite recovered from a pre-World Cup injury and his rust is compounding the inevitable teething problems of moving to a new culture, a new club and a new style of play. This is a man who scored 127 goals in 207 games in Serie A, the most sophisticated defensive institution in world football. Once he finds his form and rhythm, the Premiership should be easy pickings.

6. He's past it

Don't be silly.


http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/10/04/shevaending_story.html

Posted by: misha Oct 14 2006, 12:01 PM

SHEVCHENKO OFFERED HELPING HAND

AC Milan psychologist Bruno de Michelis claims he has spoken with struggling striker Andriy Shevchenko as he tries to make an impact in the Barclays Premiership with Chelsea.

The Ukraine forward has scored just once for the Blues since the Community Shield, in the 2-1 defeat to Middlesbrough back in August, and so far has looked a shadow of the player who prompted big-spending Chelsea to smash their transfer record when completing a £30million-plus deal in the summer.

De Michelis, described as the 'scientific co-ordinator' of the Milan Lab, insists he is happy to help the striker find his feet in his new environment and told The Sun: "I saw him less than two weeks ago. I said I could provide a programme to help him if it is possible.

"He told me 'that would be great'. A champion like Andriy can only be destroyed, not created as he was already a great player before he came to England."

De Michelis believes the change of environment is a key reason behind Shevchenko's slow start.

"How many changes has he faced with the move to London? He needs time and support, otherwise a player becomes introverted, even scared.

"If they start to work with fear inside, it becomes a disaster."

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/10/14/SOCCER_Shevchenko.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Posted by: dst Oct 14 2006, 12:07 PM

in The Sun !?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 15 2006, 02:14 AM

in The Sun !? 

Posted by: golfaspeed Oct 20 2006, 02:14 AM

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum. Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic. The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan. Even when hes struggling the club offers their support. That shows how much "CLASS" milan has. Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 20 2006, 01:02 PM

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum.  Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic.  The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan.  Even when hes struggling the club offers their support.  That shows how much "CLASS" milan has.  Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 20 2006, 02:23 PM

Guys, its just a forum, whether u post it here or there, it doesn't matter ..

It's an internet site for God's sake, not a cafe or bar !!

Then respect, I don't see how any player would give a rat's a$$ if this thread was here or there

Posted by: dst Oct 20 2006, 02:30 PM

Then respect ...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 20 2006, 02:39 PM

The players ofcourse would not give a damn but so what ??  You show respect cause you feel like it ... will Milan ever love you back ?? 
anyway .

Posted by: dst Oct 20 2006, 02:56 PM

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 20 2006, 03:05 PM

Posted by: Portikins Oct 20 2006, 04:33 PM

Wow...i have lost respect for this forum...sheva IS a past ACMilan player and this topic should be in the players forum.  Two thumbs down to the loser that moved this topic.  The club still respects and recognizes what sheva has done for milan.  Even when hes struggling the club offers their support.  That shows how much "CLASS" milan has.  Too bad you cant say the same for the posers in this forum tho.

Posted by: dst Oct 20 2006, 10:22 PM

She's a die hard Milan fan too, that posts using my account sometimes

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 20 2006, 11:14 PM

So everytime you post we gotta ask if it's Mr or Ms R7 who's posting??!!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 21 2006, 12:39 AM

So everytime you post we gotta ask if it's Mr or Ms R7 who's posting??!!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 21 2006, 07:58 PM

Ahhh...so every time we see u post something angry it's ur better(bitter) half that's posting...hot headedness and all.

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 21 2006, 10:09 PM

That's just sad...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 21 2006, 10:21 PM

That's just sad...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 21 2006, 10:27 PM

That's just sad...

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 10:38 PM

At least it's not as said as kissing a shirt you have only worn twice in your life to try and cheaply win over the fans.

Let's see if he manages to continue scoring though. Because I really didn't see anything special in his performance today, it was basically the same as the other ones, he just had Campbell to help him put the ball in the net today

Posted by: han2503 Oct 21 2006, 10:53 PM

It was better than the others. You just looking for bad things in it!!!

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 21 2006, 10:58 PM

How so ?!

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 11:03 PM

I meant it in a general way, sure he had good spells here and there as I've pointed out in my previos posts and he did improve, but he is still doing his diappearing act for most of the game.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 21 2006, 11:09 PM

He was very active during most of the time he played IMO

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 11:10 PM

Sheva, the once best striker in the world, needing Lampard to point his finger at him and shout to the fans, "Sheva is a good player after all..."

pathetic what he did to himself...

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 21 2006, 11:17 PM

He was just supportive because of the tough times he is having over there but everybody seeing whatever they want to see.

Time will tell!!!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 21 2006, 11:18 PM

Seems like you're happy that he went to Chelsea...

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 11:19 PM

I didn't really see that from him, Robben was pretty much running the show in the first half from the left (it was clear how vulnerable they where on that side) Sheva only came into the mix a bit when he switched to the left, and these where only short spells from him.

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 11:23 PM

Seems like you're happy that he went to Chelsea...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 21 2006, 11:25 PM

Robben was the best player in that game but Sheva did what was required of supporting striker like helping to the defence a bit and holding a ball when was needed. He dd good movement during the game but too bad that his teammates can be selfish sometimes. He created great chance for Ballack and could have scored at least two more.

Posted by: misha Oct 21 2006, 11:31 PM

those where the only glimpses that I'd seen of only half of his potential.

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 22 2006, 12:20 AM

WTF?

I was thrilled. It was the biggest dream of my life. When he was playing for Milan I prayed hard every night that somehow he will end up playing for that beautiful blue shirt.

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 01:01 AM

I said: "pathetic what he did to himself" (Leaving Milan for Chelsea..)

You said: "Time will tell"

Now that's something I would expect to hear from a Chelsea fan or something...

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 22 2006, 01:48 AM

Whether his move pothetic or not (for him) time indeed will tell.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but if you cannot accept different opinion that is your problem. I don't find it pathetic and guess what I'm a Milan fan.  Not all Milan fans want him to fail and not all Milan fans are happy every time he has a bad game.

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 01:59 AM

You're not making sense...

You like Andriy, I don't as much as I used to...

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 22 2006, 02:24 AM

Really? It's make sense to me

Too bad. Try to understand him.

Posted by: dst Oct 22 2006, 02:24 AM

Of course he can do better but I think today he was not bad too.

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 02:46 AM

Nah... I did... or I used to think i did... But then the truth came out... And I trust Ancelotti more than him... So there you have it..

Posted by: RD.X Oct 22 2006, 06:41 AM

Maybe he found out about the match-fixing scandal beforehand and didn't want to be involved with the team anymore.....?

It's just a thought, cos Learning English? - that's a totally crappy reason to leave a great club like Milan

Posted by: han2503 Oct 22 2006, 08:41 AM

Maybe he found out about the match-fixing scandal beforehand and didn't want to be involved with the team anymore.....?

It's just a thought, cos Learning English? - that's a totally crappy reason to leave a great club like Milan

Posted by: dst Oct 22 2006, 12:39 PM

Think what would have happened if he had said: "I'm leaving"  when the team still has to deal with CL and seria A. It would have been a sircus, especially from press and stuff making impossible for the team to focus on playing.

Posted by: RD.X Oct 22 2006, 04:21 PM

I don't think that has anything to do with him leaving at all, if that is the reason then why haven't players like Kaka, Nesta, Pirlo, Seedorf left the Italian league also.

We will never really know why he left, but you have 2 options to choose from, you can either be gullible and believe he laft for "family reasons" and "to learn English"

Or you add some sense to your head and actually see that their was much more for him to gain by moving to Chelsea, be it financially (I think Abramovic definately offered him something that he couldn't say no to)

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 22 2006, 04:27 PM

Okay guys .. Take it easy ..

He is a potential opponent of ours in the CL .. He is no longer our player .. I thank him from the bottom of my heart for the past 7 yrs as most (if not all) of us do .. But it is time to move on .. This is going no where

It's pointless to keep repeating the same thing over and over again ..

Posted by: han2503 Oct 22 2006, 04:33 PM

Hey, hey ! It was just a thought - maybe even a totally dumb one.I still support  him too (Sometimes)

I think it would be better if this topic was closed for a while - can't u see it's making dst cry

Posted by: han2503 Oct 22 2006, 04:35 PM

Okay guys .. Take it easy ..

He is a potential opponent of ours in the CL .. He is no longer our player .. I thank him from the bottom of my heart for the past 7 yrs as most (if not all) of us do .. But it is time to move on .. This is going no where

It's pointless to keep repeating the same thing over and over again ..

Posted by: dst Oct 22 2006, 04:36 PM

but it is naive to thnk that he left for "family reasons" and "to learn English" 

deep inside I still would be secretly wishing for someone from our team to break his legs. But that's just the childish part in me

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 04:39 PM

We will never really know why he left, but you have 2 options to choose from, you can either be gullible and believe he laft for "family reasons" and "to learn English"

Or you add some sense to your head and actually see that their was much more for him to gain by moving to Chelsea, be it financially (I think Abramovic definately offered him something that he couldn't say no to)

Posted by: han2503 Oct 22 2006, 04:40 PM

ofcourse ... I mean it's probably Scottish he went there to learn.

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 04:43 PM

Come on mishale ... you're a smart man !!
You really think he could have dealt with this in only two ways ?? Did it have to be either "I'm leaving" or "I want to be a Milan legend like Maldini" ??

Posted by: han2503 Oct 22 2006, 04:45 PM

I think money maybe was a factor but definitely not the main one. He has enough.

Family reasons it's not only learning english. When your wife telling you all the time that we need to move to another country because she wants that the whole family will speak the same language and their kids won't be dealing with 3 different languages at such young age and she's making ultimatums then you start thinking about moving. You and me don't know what is like to be in such situation.

Posted by: dst Oct 22 2006, 04:50 PM

There are things about it that we don't know. He wouldn't say it without a reason

Posted by: misha Oct 22 2006, 04:53 PM

I'm glad that you can atleast acknowledge this

Ok so that could be a reason to leave, but I mean come on what type of b!tch would actually force her husband to move to another country because of language issues? (which I think that ifthe real reason he left was because she forced him to then I don't think it was because of language, but more because she wants to establish some sort of celebrity status in England, since they are more crazy about this stuff over there rather then in Milan)

If this was the case, then I can admit that I would also have left, seeing that she is pregnant with there child and I wouldn't give up my family for the team either. But this scenario still sounds far fetched to actually believe

Posted by: misha Oct 24 2006, 08:25 PM

Serie A Diary: Milan Missing Andriy

Four Serie A games and just one goal: who would have thought that Milan would miss Andrii Shevchenko so much? Well, most Milan fans actually.

How could it be any other way? In seven seasons with the rossoneri, he scored a fantastic total of 173 goals helping them to a league title and a Champions League success when he scored the final penalty as the beat Juventus at Old Trafford. Incidentally, during six of those seasons he was Milan’s leading scorer and he also became the club’s second all time goalscorer behind the legendary Gunnar Nordahl..

So it was always inevitable that Milan were going to miss him once he said his goodbyes and asked the fans to forgive him for being enticed by Abrahmovic’s mo…er…wanting his children to grow up in an English speaking country.

What was surprising was the club’s reaction or lack of it. Distracted by their involvement in the Serie A scandal and the legal proceedings that followed, they seemed to forget that they had to find a replacement. It was only when the summer transfer window was coming to an end that they found some urgency.

At first they fleetingly focused their attention on Ronaldo, a player that has long been one of Silvio Berlusconi’s favourites. Eventually, after a couple of trips to Madrid, even they realized that the portly Brazilian is way past his best so they turned instead to another Brazilian in the form of Ricardo Oliveira.

If you find yourself thinking that you’ve heard the name but just can’t recall seeing him play, there’s no need to torture yourself. Oliveira is the player who Spanish side Real Betis this summer wanted to recalled from his loan at Sao Paolo just two days before the second leg of the Copa Libertadores final. Oliveira wanted to play in that game, refused to do so and was fined repeatedly.

All that was irrelevant for Milan. They were happy to have bought a striker, probably too much so to determine whether they had got the player they wanted. Carlo Ancelotti tried to build him up, insisting that Oliveira was “going to surprise a lot of people”.

People are still waiting. A goal against Lazio on his debut apart, the only interest he has been attracting has been for a couple of bad misses. He could yet turn out to be Shevchenko’s successor, but it won’t happen overnight.

It wouldn’t be too much of a problem if there was someone else to score the goals. But these have dried up lately. Alberto Gilardino has never replicated the splendid form he showed over two seasons at Parma. The pressure of playing for a club like Milan seems to be getting at him with the once confident striker who could score from anywhere and twice kept Parma up virtually single handedly looking increasingly lost.

This has meant Milan turning once again to ‘Super’ Pippo Inzaghi. Now 32, he retains that frustrating ability to be in just the right spot to scramble the ball home. Yet even he hasn’t been getting much luck which, seeing that this is Inzaghi after all, is quite something.

On Sunday they played Palermo and lost 2-0 at home. The Sicilians are currently second so despite the historic differences - this was only their second victory in Milan – it wasn’t out of form. Milan were, however, the third side after Chievo Verona and West Ham not to score against a defence that has so far shipped 16 goals in the league.

To be fair, Kaka and then Clarence Seedorf both hit the woodwork, but that was virtually it for Milan. Just as Andrii Shevchenko scored his second goal on English soil and his first at Stamford Bridge, Milan were missing him more than ever
http://www.squarefootball.net/article/article.asp?aid=3800

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 24 2006, 08:48 PM

Serie A Diary: Milan Missing Andriy

Four Serie A games and just one goal: who would have thought that Milan would miss Andrii Shevchenko so much? Well, most Milan fans actually.

How could it be any other way? In seven seasons with the rossoneri, he scored a fantastic total of 173 goals helping them to a league title and a Champions League success when he scored the final penalty as the beat Juventus at Old Trafford. Incidentally, during six of those seasons he was Milan’s leading scorer and he also became the club’s second all time goalscorer behind the legendary Gunnar Nordahl..

So it was always inevitable that Milan were going to miss him once he said his goodbyes and asked the fans to forgive him for being enticed by Abrahmovic’s mo…er…wanting his children to grow up in an English speaking country.

What was surprising was the club’s reaction or lack of it. Distracted by their involvement in the Serie A scandal and the legal proceedings that followed, they seemed to forget that they had to find a replacement. It was only when the summer transfer window was coming to an end that they found some urgency.

At first they fleetingly focused their attention on Ronaldo, a player that has long been one of Silvio Berlusconi’s favourites. Eventually, after a couple of trips to Madrid, even they realized that the portly Brazilian is way past his best so they turned instead to another Brazilian in the form of Ricardo Oliveira.

If you find yourself thinking that you’ve heard the name but just can’t recall seeing him play, there’s no need to torture yourself. Oliveira is the player who Spanish side Real Betis this summer wanted to recalled from his loan at Sao Paolo just two days before the second leg of the Copa Libertadores final. Oliveira wanted to play in that game, refused to do so and was fined repeatedly.

All that was irrelevant for Milan. They were happy to have bought a striker, probably too much so to determine whether they had got the player they wanted. Carlo Ancelotti tried to build him up, insisting that Oliveira was “going to surprise a lot of people”.

People are still waiting. A goal against Lazio on his debut apart, the only interest he has been attracting has been for a couple of bad misses. He could yet turn out to be Shevchenko’s successor, but it won’t happen overnight.

It wouldn’t be too much of a problem if there was someone else to score the goals. But these have dried up lately. Alberto Gilardino has never replicated the splendid form he showed over two seasons at Parma. The pressure of playing for a club like Milan seems to be getting at him with the once confident striker who could score from anywhere and twice kept Parma up virtually single handedly looking increasingly lost.

This has meant Milan turning once again to ‘Super’ Pippo Inzaghi. Now 32, he retains that frustrating ability to be in just the right spot to scramble the ball home. Yet even he hasn’t been getting much luck which, seeing that this is Inzaghi after all, is quite something.

On Sunday they played Palermo and lost 2-0 at home. The Sicilians are currently second so despite the historic differences - this was only their second victory in Milan – it wasn’t out of form. Milan were, however, the third side after Chievo Verona and West Ham not to score against a defence that has so far shipped 16 goals in the league.

To be fair, Kaka and then Clarence Seedorf both hit the woodwork, but that was virtually it for Milan. Just as Andrii Shevchenko scored his second goal on English soil and his first at Stamford Bridge, Milan were missing him more than ever
http://www.squarefootball.net/article/article.asp?aid=3800

Posted by: Warchant Oct 24 2006, 11:29 PM

watching sheva score his goal this weekened reminded me of why we miss someone like him so much. somehow, he always manages to be at the right place at the right time. it's like the ball is magnatized to his foot.

i think, given time, the guys we have will soon fill that role...i just hope it happens soon.

Posted by: LaPalma Oct 24 2006, 11:35 PM

watching sheva score his goal this weekened reminded me of why we miss someone like him so much. somehow, he always manages to be at the right place at the right time. it's like the ball is magnatized to his foot.

i think, given time, the guys we have will soon fill that role...i just hope it happens soon.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 25 2006, 12:04 AM

I never thought I would say this but...I want my Sheva back...

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 25 2006, 07:00 PM

What R7 said...exactly what he said....I hope!

Posted by: Warchant Oct 26 2006, 05:40 PM

I know the feeling, but Milan is bigger than him .. This is just a phase, in time you will see

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2006, 06:01 PM

What R7 said...exactly what he said....I hope!

Posted by: HasanHasanly Oct 26 2006, 06:28 PM

Oh what happened when Van Basten left Milan? Who were we left with? and how did sheva fit into his place? I did not have a chance to see Van Basten play

Posted by: misha Oct 26 2006, 07:11 PM

Oh what happened when Van Basten left Milan? Who were we left with? and how did sheva fit into his place? I did not have a chance to see Van Basten play

Posted by: han2503 Oct 31 2006, 07:51 PM

Posted by: misha Oct 31 2006, 08:01 PM

It's Bullsh!t.

Posted by: dst Oct 31 2006, 08:02 PM

Even though everytime he speeks, pure sh!t comes out of his mouth he has got a point though.

Posted by: dst Oct 31 2006, 08:03 PM

It's Bullsh!t.

Posted by: misha Oct 31 2006, 08:07 PM

In every interview Chelsea players are backing him up and just look how they celebrated his goal. Or it's press bulsh!it or more likely Eto'o saying sh!t like he always do.

Posted by: dst Oct 31 2006, 08:15 PM

I laughed at your first reaction cause it was full of arguments !!

Posted by: misha Oct 31 2006, 08:17 PM

I laughed at your first reaction cause it was full of arguments !!

Posted by: dst Oct 31 2006, 08:22 PM

But it was right though 

Posted by: mchanna Nov 1 2006, 01:14 PM

This article also appeared at www.gazzetta.it
And tribalfootball (*yeah* i know... but still)
I think that Eto'o really said this.
but if it's true or not, i don't know

Posted by: misha Nov 9 2006, 01:20 PM

Sheva delights Chelsea

The Chelsea coaching staff are delighted with former Milan striker Andriy Shevchenko after the Ukrainian’s goal in the 4-0 win over Aston Villa in the Carling Cup. “The goal was important for Andriy, but it was also important that he came through the match with no problems,” said assistant boss Steve Clarke. “He picked up a niggling little injury which has kept him out for three weeks, but he worked hard and looked as sharp as he was before he was injured.” Sheva has had mixed form since his move to England, but now seems to be settling at Stamford Bridge.

Football Italia

Posted by: KillerMax Nov 9 2006, 10:56 PM

Holy $hit!!! He scored a goal in a 4-0 victory? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 9 2006, 11:00 PM

Holy $hit!!! He scored a goal in a 4-0 victory? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: misha Nov 9 2006, 11:24 PM

Holy $hit!!! He scored a goal in a 4-0 victory? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 10 2006, 10:36 AM

Holy $hit!!! He scored a goal in a 4-0 victory? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAY 

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 10 2006, 06:05 PM

Posted by: han2503 Nov 10 2006, 07:26 PM

Inter would disagree

Posted by: misha Nov 11 2006, 09:35 PM

Sheva scored a goal and gave two assists in 65 minutes

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2006, 11:05 PM

Sheva scored a goal and gave two assists in 65 minutes

Posted by: misha Nov 11 2006, 11:17 PM

Damn I miss him so much. When Berlusconi was talking about him phoning today, I remembered the old times and nearly exploded in tears. I dunno about you, but he and Ricky are still my favourites, I won't stop cheering for them until they finish their careers.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2006, 11:21 PM

I never stopped supporting him. I just can't wish him anything bad. I love him too much. I even watched every Chelsea game he played that was available to me.

It's particular hard when they show here Milan matches from recent years.

Posted by: misha Nov 11 2006, 11:25 PM

I'm with you mate. I've began to watch Chelsea matches just because of him, and I'm very happy when he scores. He may have betrayed us in some way, but he's still a living Milan legend.

Posted by: Portikins Nov 11 2006, 11:36 PM

I don't think Shevchenko mi$$e$ Milan as much as Milan misses him. (Was this perfect English? You know, his wife may read the forum...)

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 11 2006, 11:44 PM

I don't think Shevchenko mi$$e$ Milan as much as Milan misses him. (Was this perfect English? You know, his wife may read the forum...)

Posted by: Portikins Nov 11 2006, 11:52 PM

If you were to move let's say to Berlin, would you miss your home? Of course you would. It's the same thing with Sheva. The money are not a big deal cause he earned a lot here aswell, not to mention he would have got more than he actually gets at Chelsea if he decided to stay.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 12 2006, 12:03 AM

Anyway, I don't think Abramovich will let his fav player leave the club.

Posted by: misha Nov 12 2006, 04:12 AM

BTW Sheva has a new son. His name is Christian and he was born two days ago, 10th of november.
I know there is 13 years between them but maybe some day Christian Maldini and Christian Shevchenko will play together

Posted by: misha Dec 5 2006, 11:27 PM

According to the highlights Sheva had a great game

Posted by: mchanna Dec 5 2006, 11:35 PM

he scored the first goal in minute 26.
I'll watch the resume ^^

Posted by: Portikins Dec 5 2006, 11:41 PM

he scored the first goal in minute 26.
I'll watch the resume ^^

Posted by: misha Dec 5 2006, 11:50 PM

The goal - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=856338A72FD98438 (Credit to BuffCuff)

Posted by: mchanna Dec 5 2006, 11:58 PM

or here at youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiB37gWOQc0
with the goal from that shaun philips wright

Posted by: misha Dec 6 2006, 12:02 AM

with the goal from that shaun philips wright

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Dec 6 2006, 12:07 AM

SHEVA

!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: kaka_sheva Dec 6 2006, 01:04 AM

i kno im bad for saying this, but i actually hoped that Sheva wud continue not doing so well at Chelsea. don't get me wrong, i luv sheva , but i thot that Mourinho wud consider sending him bak again to milan if he didn't play well.
when i found out about the goal, i was kind of upset that he mite become great at chelsea and also jealous of chelsea, too, but i told myself that he still wants to be there and that's all that shud matter... ... even if it hurts to admit it.

Posted by: misha Dec 7 2006, 10:47 PM

Jose wants Sheva record

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has backed former Milan star Andriy Shevchenko to break Gerd Muller’s European goal record. The Ukrainian scored his first European goal for the Blues and his 57th overall in the Champions League win over Levski Sofia. “Sheva scored a goal and it is one that puts him ahead of Eusebio in the top scorers in the history of European football,” said Mourinho. “He is just behind Muller, but he is only 30 years of age and with a few years of Champions League football ahead of him, he can jump to the best ever.”

Football Italia

Posted by: han2503 Dec 7 2006, 10:58 PM

Jose wants Sheva record

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has backed former Milan star Andriy Shevchenko to break Gerd Muller’s European goal record. The Ukrainian scored his first European goal for the Blues and his 57th overall in the Champions League win over Levski Sofia. “Sheva scored a goal and it is one that puts him ahead of Eusebio in the top scorers in the history of European football,” said Mourinho. “He is just behind Muller, but he is only 30 years of age and with a few years of Champions League football ahead of him, he can jump to the best ever.”

Football Italia

Posted by: mchanna Dec 7 2006, 11:05 PM

lol Shaun Wright-Phillips

Posted by: misha Dec 7 2006, 11:11 PM

 
well I'm not a chelsea fan... so 

Posted by: mchanna Dec 8 2006, 11:09 AM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,283-2493514_1,00.html
this is a very good interview with Mourinho, read it ^^

Posted by: kaka_sheva Dec 8 2006, 11:58 AM

"Sheva is not untouchable." That's cuz he's not in Milan anymore.

Posted by: misha Dec 8 2006, 04:39 PM

"Sheva is not untouchable." That's cuz he's not in Milan anymore.

Posted by: kaka_sheva Dec 9 2006, 01:35 AM

^true, plus the big change from italian football to english football.

Posted by: misha Dec 9 2006, 01:38 AM

I hope Sheva will adjust, because he wants to do well in Chelsea, so I'm hoping he will do that.
I wish him luck.

Posted by: misha Dec 9 2006, 06:26 PM

Wenger support for Sheva

Arsene Wenger insists that Andrei Shevchenko has made Chelsea a better team this season despite reports from Jose Mourinho that the striker is not 'untouchable'.

Wenger also believes the Ukrainian has made Didier Drogba a better player insisting that Chelsea's more attacking approach is due to the former Milan star's influence.

Shevchenko has recently come under scrutiny from both himself and Mourinho who has admitted the star has yet to justify his £30.8 million price tag.

Wenger told the club's website: "If Drogba does well it is certainly down to Shevchenko as well.

"Drogba was always a great player but even more since he played with Shevchenko. He has more support, more deflections. He gets more deflected balls and someone makes the runs for him and he takes advantage of that.

"A second presence sometimes diverts (defenders' attention) - mentally and physically. That gives [Drogba] more confidence and more chance and as well maybe Chelsea play in a more offensive style than they used before."

Wenger has come to the defence of the former Dynamo Kiev player by highlighting the amount of time it takes to adapt to the Premier League.

He said: "Old or young it takes six months to completely adapt to the pace of the league.

"Sometimes it is that your game is not completely as good, sometimes you struggle with injuries. We had all kinds of problems here and I feel that five or six months is needed.

"I personally rate Shevchenko highly from the time he played with Dynamo Kiev against us. I feel as well he is a really keen player and sometimes that kind of work is not rated enough," he added.

sky

Posted by: Numero uno fantastico Dec 12 2006, 07:55 PM

I think so to Sheva isn't playing very well and I hope he will return to milan...and when he does let's hope we got our sheva back

Milan isn

Posted by: han2503 Dec 12 2006, 08:59 PM

I think so to Sheva isn't playing very well and I hope he will return to milan...and when he does let's hope we got our sheva back

Milan isn

Posted by: arivanjj Dec 13 2006, 12:08 PM

Sheva in fresh Milan denial

Chelsea striker Andriy Shevchenko has again ruled out a return to Milan. “I made my choice and I’m not coming back,” he noted.

The £30m Ukrainian is struggling to settle in London and has been linked with a sensational January return to the San Siro, just six months after his switch to Stamford Bridge.

Furthermore, Coach José Mourinho recently omitted his name from the list of players he considers ‘untouchable’ and is set to drop him ahead of Wednesday’s clash with Newcastle.

“I have already said this once and I must repeat myself, once and for all. I will stay at Chelsea,” said the player in an interview to the Corriere della Sera.

“I have great respect for Milan and their fans and I want to send a special hug to all of them, because they will always be in my heart.

“But I made my choice some months ago and it would make no sense for me to change my mind now,” added the 2004 Golden Ball winner.

Milan President Silvio Berlusconi had stated on Saturday that he would welcome the player back with open arms, although he was aware that it looked like a problematic option.

“I have an excellent relationship with the President and I will always be thankful for what he did for me,” continued Sheva. “However, this cannot change what I feel now.

“If you leave an important club like Milan to move to another outfit, you cannot throw in the towel after such a short period, even if this is a hard moment for me.”

The former Dynamo Kiev man has scored just six times in all competitions so far this term.

“It’s not that I’m not scoring, I’m scoring less compared to the past,” he argued.

“The truth is that football players are not machines, we go through periods when things do not go the way we want.

“When you make a choice you need to follow that road until the end, only then will I be able to say if things went well or not.”


http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/dec13e.html

Posted by: arivanjj Dec 13 2006, 12:09 PM

Posted by: han2503 Jan 9 2007, 05:45 PM

YOU CAN'T EXPECT SHEVA TO SCORE V MACCLESFIELD!
CARLING CUP Semi-final: Wycombe v Chelsea, tomorrow, 7.30pm LAMPARD DEFENDS £30M FLOP

THEY tried nice with Andriy Shevchenko and it didn't work, as Jose Mourinho's pledges of support were not reciprocated.

Then they tried nasty, and it still didn't work, as Chelsea's manager humiliated the Ukrainian and still could not spark a response.

But last night they adopted a strategy that seemed to sum up the striker's enduring nightmare at Stamford Bridge - pity.

Shevchenko's misery plumbed new depths against Macclesfield on Saturday, with the £30million superstar branded a dive cheat and 'past it' by Silkmen skipper and centre-half David Morley, who took over in goal and easily prevented Shevchenko's best efforts to score past him.

That was as low as it could get for a player supposed to fire the goals to lead the Blues to the Premiership crown and Champions League glory. Yet instead, Shevchenko will run out at Wycombe in the Carling Cup tomorrow knowing that his stock under Mourinho has plummeted to astonishing depths.

And even as Frank Lampard attempted to back the striker with supportive comments, the undercurrent seemed more one of human empathy than any belief that the former AC Milan man can possibly come good.

Asked directly about the Ukrainian, Lampard - who has 12 goals to his credit including his weekend hat-trick - put a metaphorical arm round the striker's shoulder.

"I do feel sympathy for him but it is no problem," insisted Lampard.

"Against Macclesfield it was not a day where, because he cost £30 million and is a world-class striker, he had to score.

"He didn't. He has to work hard and try to lead the line, which he did. It doesn't always happen for you.

"It is the same for me - I scored three against Macclesfield, but at Aston Villa I tried to score the whole game and it didn't go in for me. So it is not a problem for Sheva. I hope people don't want to make a big deal that he didn't score against Macclesfield because football is not that simple."

Yet as Lampard's bitter World Cup memories tell him, it is that simple.

Shevchenko was bought, at Roman Abramovich's behest, to score goals and take the Blues over the final European hurdle. The fact that Didier Drogba has gone from fall-guy to hero has merely illustrated the contrast between him and Shevchenko.

And while there is no questioning of his commitment, Lampard appears to be coming to the conclusion that it is simply not meant to be.

"We can all try too hard - that is not really a big fault," said the England man. "That is just showing what you want to do. Sheva doesn't seem to be letting it affect him. He is working hard in training and is a great professional.

"On Saturday you could see the frustration, but as long as Sheva keeps trying, the goals will come. Eventually it will turn for him."

Whether Lampard, who will be rested tomorrow, truly believes that is hard to know yet, certainly, Mourinho will select Shevchenko against Wycombe before returning him to bench-warming duties against Wigan on Saturday.

Posted by: han2503 Jan 9 2007, 05:48 PM

No hiding place for Shevchenko

All is not well at Chelsea, but no player reflects the champions' mid-season malaise quite as vividly as Andrei Shevchenko. While blame for the team's recent inconsistency is shouldered almost entirely by the defence, it is conveniently forgotten that their £30.8 million striker has failed to score in his last nine games. For manager Jose Mourinho, believed to be at odds with the board at Stamford Bridge over such extravagant signings, it is a chastening statistic.

The popular logic is that Chelsea's season will be revived as soon as John Terry is restored to the side, but attention is turning increasingly to the 'dead weight' that they are carrying in the captain's absence. Michael Ballack has reportedly been the subject of mutinous murmurs in the camp over his supposed indolence, and similar questions can now legitimately be asked of Shevchenko, who sloped off against Macclesfield in the FA Cup to opposition fans' chants of "What a waste of money".

Until now a clear line has been drawn between the struggles of Ballack and Shevchenko to adjust to Premiership pace. Where the German, by many accounts English football's highest earner on £130,000 a week, has courted criticism for lack of effort, his Ukrainian team-mate has merely looked lost. But having botched the chances Mourinho has given him — including a start against the cannon fodder of Macclesfield from which he again drew a blank —Shevchenko, too, is running out of sympathisers.

Apart from Frank Lampard, that is. "I do feel sympathy for him," said the England midfielder, who scored a hat-trick in Chelsea's 6-1 Cup win and sought to justify the striker's wretched display. ''It was not a day where, because he cost £30 million and is a world-class striker, he had to score — he didn't. He has to work hard and try to lead the line, which he did. It doesn't always happen for you — he is working hard in training and is a great professional. Of course he wants to score more, that is what he has done his whole career. But as long as he keeps trying, the goals will come.

"It is the same for me," Lampard continued. "I scored three against Macclesfield and at Aston Villa I tried to score the whole game and it didn't go in for me. It is not a problem for Sheva. I hope people don't want to make a big deal of the fact that he didn't score against Macclesfield, because football is not that simple."

But Shevchenko's failure to trouble such a limited side simply served as an instructive study in contrasts. It was by no means the only example of his deficiencies, given that he has not scored at all since the Champions League tie against Levski Sofia on Dec 5, while his last Premiership goal came in a routine home win over Watford on Nov 11. For a player in whom so much has been invested, this is a pitiful return.

It is not so much the money that rankles about Shevchenko as his status as the figurehead for Roman Abramovich's revolution at Stamford Bridge. He is the player whom the Russian owner, soon after the takeover, personally approached at Milan's Four Seasons Hotel to resolve the club's search for a centre-forward. Initially he refused the offer, such was his success at AC Milan, but as he committed to a move last summer he said of Chelsea: "Now we are ready for each other." The declaration proved horribly premature.

Posted by: han2503 Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM

Oh how the mighty have fallen

Now I'm actually starting to feel a TAD (just a tad) bit sorry for him

Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 10 2007, 06:24 AM

Oh how the mighty have fallen 

Now I'm actually starting to feel a TAD (just a tad) bit sorry for him

Posted by: milanistar Jan 10 2007, 07:41 AM

so am i, its sad to see him being benched the rest of the season   Do you think if chelsea wanted to sell him back to milan, that milan would buy him, and how much do you think they'll wanto sell him for

Posted by: han2503 Jan 10 2007, 12:37 PM

so am i, its sad to see him being benched the rest of the season   Do you think if chelsea wanted to sell him back to milan, that milan would buy him, and how much do you think they'll wanto sell him for

Posted by: mchanna Jan 11 2007, 10:35 PM

There is absolutely no way he comes back to Milan!
Well, may be for the other side of the city

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 12 2007, 05:12 PM

I’m sorry but I don’t think so.

It’s a matter of pride from all 3 parties involved, Chelsea won’t want to sell him because there transfer policy will blow up in their face and the fact that Sheva’s purchase was more Abramovic’s doing rather then Mourinho’s will be more obvious.

Sheva won’t want to admit he made a mistake and can’t make it in the EPL. And Milan won’t want to take him simply because Milan ain’t no hotel that you could come and go as you please. The fans will never accept him  back neither.

And about him going to Inter well that just was a frank question asked by the media to Mancini if he would take him, and we all know Mancini never says no to anything. Sheva would never go to Inter either and if he where to go, the Milan fans would probably set his house on fire.

Posted by: milanistar Jan 12 2007, 06:13 PM

Totally agree

Silvio said too contriversial things; 'Sheva would be welcomed with open arms...' and then 'Sheva is not a man, in my (Silvio's) house I make the decisions...' .

This leaves Sheva, considering his recent form, regreting the minute he switched teams. Which would imply that Shevchenko would rather join Al-Ittihad than come back to Milan. I am guessing, since he was considered a Rossoneri legend but threw it all away for Abramovic .. Basically he wont come back w/ his tail between his legs, he already knew his mistake when he kissed that Chelsea shirt

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 12 2007, 06:35 PM

Now you're making a move for Sheva?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 5 2007, 04:15 PM

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 5 2007, 04:17 PM

Stay at Chelsea ... We have Ronaldo now

Posted by: nuh Mar 5 2007, 05:13 PM

no btw i wouldnt say cuz i would have sheva any time i dont care who we have sheva can never ever be replaced he will alwayz be in my heart

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 23 2007, 09:03 PM

The past month Sheva has possibly been the best player in the Premiership, he's started to score more goals and his all round play has improved alot.

What more can you say about his goals against Sheff United and Spurs, they were both simply spectacular. All the greats take time to settle, Rooney has only scored about the same as Sheva this season, yet he has no critics, you make stats what you want them to be. Sheva is world class and always will be.

Posted by: nahnuhi Mar 23 2007, 09:09 PM

ur rht

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 24 2007, 06:37 PM

Nice one Kurt. But you should know by now, that the English media never blame Rooney. In fact given half a chance they'd make him the best player in the world. They've already done it to Cristiano Ronaldo coz of one good season. But then you're English yourself, maybe you won't take kindly to me saying this.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 24 2007, 08:14 PM

Nice one Kurt. But you should know by now, that the English media never blame Rooney. In fact given half a chance they'd make him the best player in the world. They've already done it to Cristiano Ronaldo coz of one good season. But then you're English yourself, maybe you won't take kindly to me saying this.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 25 2007, 07:25 PM

Nice one Kurt. But you should know by now, that the English media never blame Rooney. In fact given half a chance they'd make him the best player in the world. They've already done it to Cristiano Ronaldo coz of one good season. But then you're English yourself, maybe you won't take kindly to me saying this.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 25 2007, 09:24 PM

Henry was played out of place at Juve ... Arsene Wenger was the one who discovered Henry and Trezeguet =, back I think when they all were at Monaco or Marseille .. In anycase, Henry place in a certain position in the team and is given certain freedoms .. On the national side and at Juve. The whole team played a certain way and that is why Henry never showed his class in Juve or the National as he does everyday at Arsenal.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 25 2007, 10:17 PM

Well, what he used to at Arsenal. He had a shocking season which both he and Arsene put down to "injuries" neither can face the fact that he's passed it

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2007, 03:16 AM

Well, what he used to at Arsenal. He had a shocking season which both he and Arsene put down to "injuries" neither can face the fact that he's passed it 

Posted by: misha May 22 2007, 03:07 PM

Chelsea ready to sell Sheva

Chelsea flop Andriy Shevchenko has been given permission to return to Milan, reports in England are suggesting.

The Ukrainian, who joined the Blues last year in a £30m summer move, has struggled to adapt to his new life in the Premiership and has been constantly linked with a return.

Now the Sun newspaper claims that a deal could be done for the striker, who has scored just four League goals this term.

Shevchenko is scheduled to meet Milan officials in Athens this week, where he will be a guest of President Silvio Berlusconi for the Champions League Final with Liverpool.

The forward, who had recently stated that he wanted to silence his critics in London, has allegedly asked Chelsea patron Roman Abramovich permission to leave.

The striker’s request was understood to be motivated by the club’s decision to confirm boss Jose Mourinho, whose strained relationship with the former Rossoneri ace has never been a secret.

Abramovich is ready to release Sheva with Chelsea expected to ask for a cash-plus-player deal as opposed to Milan’s request for him to join them on loan.

However, the Via Turati outfit may consider offering £12m and including Georgian defender Kakha Kaladze in the operation.

Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon had stated on Sunday that Shevchenko and Michael Ballack would not be sold.

“It’s not going to happen. We brought both these players in for three, four years,” he said. “We didn’t bring them in for a season and we knew fully well what their capabilities are.

“I’m confident they are going to be here as big players with Chelsea next season. They feel they have a lot more to give as it takes time to settle in.”

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 22 2007, 03:17 PM

Chelsea's official's have no power or strength. We should just tell them we want him on loa, and we'll get him on loan eventually. Just like we did with Crespo.. Just like Inter have done with Crespo and Veron.

Posted by: Portikins May 22 2007, 06:08 PM

Why do we have 2 threads for Andryi? 1 in Players/Past and this one?

Some mod put the 2 together.