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han2503
post Oct 14 2013, 01:09 PM
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Important game to try and get back on track (not holding my breath)

Gazzetta have this atrocity of a predicted line-up for this one

Abbiati
Abate--Zaccardo--Zapata--Constant
Poli--Emanuelson--Muntari
Montolivo
Balotelli--Robinho


Knowing Allegri, they're not too far off

I can already imagine that defence... Zaccardo moving in slow motion, Zapata's head in the clouds and looking confused. No De Jong in midfield, Monto looking just as confused as Zapata behind the strikers...

Hey, at least we'll have Balo back diving around the penalty area and trying to get a free-kick or penalty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:19 PM
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Monto needs to perform or get dropped. He's meant to be a professional footballer with great technical ability, there's no "out of position" excuse for him, he's playing a few metres from his natural position FFS, if he can't receive a pass, find space or pass a ball properly then that's ridiculous.
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post Oct 14 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 14 2013, 12:19 PM) *
Monto needs to perform or get dropped. He's meant to be a professional footballer with great technical ability, there's no "out of position" excuse for him, he's playing a few metres from his natural position FFS, if he can't receive a pass, find space or pass a ball properly then that's ridiculous.


You'd be amazed how shifting a few yards to a new position can totally uproot a player's form.

He's out of it, yes, but that's hugely due to being out of position. Most significant factor overall, for me, though is his captaincy.
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post Oct 14 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 14 2013, 01:19 PM) *
Monto needs to perform or get dropped. He's meant to be a professional footballer with great technical ability, there's no "out of position" excuse for him, he's playing a few metres from his natural position FFS, if he can't receive a pass, find space or pass a ball properly then that's ridiculous.

If you think the difference between being a CM and an AM is "playing a few metres out of position" then there's no point even going into it about it with you

QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 14 2013, 04:00 PM) *
You'd be amazed how shifting a few yards to a new position can totally uproot a player's form.

He's out of it, yes, but that's hugely due to being out of position. Most significant factor overall, for me, though is his captaincy.

He's not out of form, he was one of the best players for Italy just a few days ago with him being one of the most praised players by the Gazzetta journalists. He's "out of form" with Milan simply because the entire team is playing terrible and thus it's dragging everyone down. Add to that he's playing in a position where all his best attributes are not being put to good use and you have the performances we've been getting from him as of late.

The captaincy isn't an issue when it comes to his performances. I personally don't think he has the personality to be Milan captain but the captaincy itself has no baring here
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post Oct 14 2013, 04:42 PM
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Wait, what? Emanuelson as DM? Have Gazzetta gone insane? Anyway, it's still too early to predict line-ups.
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:54 PM
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heard kaka could make the bench for this
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:55 PM
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What kind of omelette is that ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf
Kaka
inzaghi-Shevchenko (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Snap.
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:55 PM
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Plus Dida, Cafu, Nesta, God and Serginho. Sigh.

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post Oct 15 2013, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 14 2013, 08:00 PM) *
You'd be amazed how shifting a few yards to a new position can totally uproot a player's form.

He's out of it, yes, but that's hugely due to being out of position. Most significant factor overall, for me, though is his captaincy.


Its a joke in itself that he is even captain. Abbiati should be.
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post Oct 15 2013, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Oct 15 2013, 01:32 AM) *
Its a joke in itself that he is even captain. Abbiati should be.

Abbaiti should not be on the team ... Although i agree about montilovo
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 15 2013, 08:37 AM) *
Abbaiti should not be on the team ...


Heh, true.
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 15 2013, 10:37 AM) *
Abbaiti should not be on the team ... Although i agree about montilovo

I agree with you there.
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post Oct 15 2013, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Oct 15 2013, 12:32 AM) *
Its a joke in itself that he is even captain. Abbiati should be.

It's not a joke, last season he was one of the few who stepped up, he got it based on merit as when he was given the armband last season like against Juve for example he more than showed his worth as captain.

Abbiati is a joke himself. He's cost us points in 50% of our games this season and has made at least 1 mistake per game so far. He'll most likely be replaced in January so making him captain would be pointless
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post Oct 15 2013, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2013, 03:19 PM) *
He's not out of form, he was one of the best players for Italy just a few days ago with him being one of the most praised players by the Gazzetta journalists. He's "out of form" with Milan simply because the entire team is playing terrible and thus it's dragging everyone down. Add to that he's playing in a position where all his best attributes are not being put to good use and you have the performances we've been getting from him as of late.

The captaincy isn't an issue when it comes to his performances. I personally don't think he has the personality to be Milan captain but the captaincy itself has no baring here


1: He is 'out of form' when it comes to Milan. I don't really concern myself with Italy, so to me all I see is a pale shadow of the former Monto when it comes to AC. And I am also agreeing with you that it's how Milan are utilising him that's the cause. Along with...

2: The captaincy. Disagree. He hasn't earned it, and wasn't the right choice. You stand alone on your conviction that he isn't being affected by having it. Maybe half the reason he plays so much better for Italy right now is he doesn't have that weight on his shoulders when on national duty. You said it yourself, he's playing as a treq for the Azurri yet playing way better than he does for Milan.

3: I can't buy the 'whole team is rubbish so dragging him down' theory. How come SES played so well during our staggeringly dark period this time last season? Didn't he get dragged down too? And if you reply with the 'it affects different players differently' then that's a cop out.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 15 2013, 01:37 PM) *
It's not a joke, last season he was one of the few who stepped up, he got it based on merit as when he was given the armband last season like against Juve for example he more than showed his worth as captain.

Abbiati is a joke himself. He's cost us points in 50% of our games this season and has made at least 1 mistake per game so far. He'll most likely be replaced in January so making him captain would be pointless


I believe being relieved unfairly of the captaincy has contributed to Abbiati's terrible season. That along with the quite pitiful defence in front of him.
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