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Posted by: KillerMax Oct 26 2008, 06:26 PM



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Serie A Table:

Udinese 17
Inter 17
Napoli 17
Milan 16
Catania 15
Lazio 13
Genoa 13
Fiorentina 13
Atalanta 13
Juventus 12
Palermo 12
Siena 9
Lecce 9
Sampdoria 7
Roma 7
Cagliari 7
Bologna 6
Chievo 6
Torino 5
Reggina 5

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 26 2008, 07:20 PM

Does anybody know the disciplinary situation for this game? Who's available who's not? Hopefully Nesta makes his return.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2008, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 26 2008, 07:20 PM) *
Does anybody know the disciplinary situation for this game? Who's available who's not? Hopefully Nesta makes his return.

Jankulovski is definately out after the yellow he got today

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 26 2008, 07:33 PM

and i wonder if seedorf and flamini will be fit to start this one i hope seedorf makes it bcoz otherwise we will start wth 3 DMs again

Posted by: Darunia Oct 26 2008, 07:45 PM

I would go with this lineup:

Abbiati
Zambrotta Nesta Bonera JAntonini
Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
Ronaldinho
Shevchenko Inzaghi

Hopefully Seedorf recovers from injury. I would rest Kaka for at least a half for the game on Napoli. Inzaghi is scoring goals again so I'd like to see him get a start. All-italian back 4 tongue.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 26 2008, 07:48 PM

Also Gattuso seems to be having some problems...

So if, hypothetically, Gattuso, Seedorf and Flamini were unavailable, does that mean we will finally see Cardacio get a start? ohmy.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 26 2008, 07:51 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 26 2008, 06:48 PM) *
Also Gattuso seems to be having some problems...

So if, hypothetically, Gattuso, Seedorf and Flamini were unavailable, does that mean we will finally see Cardacio get a start? ohmy.gif

or we play 4-2-2-2/4-2-3-1 king.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 26 2008, 08:07 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 26 2008, 01:51 PM) *
or we play 4-2-2-2/4-2-3-1 king.gif


WHAT??!?!? Unless you want to send Carletto to the ER with a heart attack...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 26 2008, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 26 2008, 08:07 PM) *
WHAT??!?!? Unless you want to send Carletto to the ER with a heart attack...

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

He would just as well play Paolo as another 'defensive midfielder' in the midfield 3 before that happens, and he won't field Cardacio either, we can forget about it happening anytime soon unless it's a useless friendly

Posted by: Tennie Oct 26 2008, 09:59 PM

I actually expect there to be a decent amount of turnover for this game.

We know Janku's out on yellow card accumulation. Rino had an icepack on his knee when Galliani visited the dressing room after today's game so he may be out too. I also expect Il Capitano to be rested and possibly one of the Brazilians AMs.

Siena are a good side but they're in 12th place right now and I suspect team selection for this game will be made with an eye toward the Sunday game, which is against Napoli.

Posted by: mishie Oct 26 2008, 10:10 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 26 2008, 08:59 PM) *
I actually expect there to be a decent amount of turnover for this game.

We know Janku's out on yellow card accumulation. Rino had an icepack on his knee when Galliani visited the dressing room after today's game so he may be out too. I also expect Il Capitano to be rested and possibly one of the Brazilians AMs.

Siena are a good side but they're in 12th place right now and I suspect team selection for this game will be made with an eye toward the Sunday game, which is against Napoli.

I agree and i think maybe Sheva will get a game to

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 27 2008, 12:26 AM

Pato didn't start the last two games. I really expect him to start this one.

Carlo better do that

Posted by: amancik Oct 27 2008, 12:38 PM

My line-up would be:
Abbiati
Zambrotta-Nesta-Bonera-Antonini
Emerson-Seedorf-Ambrosini
Kaka'
Pato-Boriello

Flamini and Gattuso are out and. Maybe we'd see Cardaccio towards the end of this game.

Posted by: amancik Oct 27 2008, 12:41 PM

One thing about Siena, they're not like Atalanta or Cagliari. They will commit people forward which will leave spaces for Kaka' and Pato to exploit. As much as I'd like Kaka to sit out, I wouldn't want our Kaka (on-form) to be benched just yet.

Posted by: Tennie Oct 27 2008, 04:20 PM

Here is Dr. Manara's report on the various injuries:
(translation and typos from acmilan.com's english page)

QUOTE
MILANELLO - This is the summary on the conditions of the injured players, made today through Milan Channel by the club's doctor, Massimo Manara, at the end of the morning session:

MATHIEU FLAMINI: "The player present himself with a muscle problem to his left thigh. We believe it's a knock, but he will still have to rest for two or three days."

RINO GATTUSO: "He had another small trauma to his right knee, which has been giving him troubl this year. In any case, the athlete should be available of the team already from tomorrow."

RONALDINHO: "He had a bruise to his right kneecap. Today he underwent some tests, in the afternoon he will do a radiography. I think that even he will need a couple of days rest."

PHILIPPE SENDEROS AND KAKHA KALADZE: "They're resuming the work with the team, therefore I think that they will have a 'typical' week to be ready for Sunday."

ALESSANDRO NESTA: "He rested for a couple of days because he felt some pain again and underwent some specific therapies. I think that from Wednesday he can resume the work with the team."

CLARENCE SEEDORF: "Even today he underwent some therapy for this problem to his right hip. He will undergo a radiography today. I think that he will be available already from tomorrow, but we shall see how he presents himself tomorrow before training."

ANDREA PIRLO: "He took a resonance test due to the muscle lesion from September. The times are more or less the predicted ones."


Note: Senderos and Kaladze did specific traning with the ball today. They didn't follow the full practice with the team.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 27 2008, 05:13 PM

so out of the list seedorf and rino seems to be available for the next game.....

Posted by: han2503 Oct 27 2008, 05:53 PM

Personally I would like to see Kaka rested for this one, we have a tough one against Napoli on Sunday and Kaka being 100% for that one imo is more important. So I would go for something like this

Zambro--Bonera--Maldini--Antonini
Ambro--Seedorf--Puma
Pato
Sheva--Boriello


It will be sort of a 4-3-3/4-3-1-2 type setup. Pato and Sheva can both drop deep and play in that whole, I've seen Sheva do it countless times for Ukraine and I'm pretty sure Pato won't have any problem playing in that position. And Sheva and Pato can also drift wide and play off of Boriello. I think this will be more then enough for Siena and will allow us to rest some players for Sunday.

Rino and Dinho shouldn't play so close to recovering from injuries, no matter how minor they were, no use making any further damage when we have so many options for the attack and midfield

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 27 2008, 06:01 PM

Puma's a definite starter for me. He's really like R80, coming back onto the zone of awesomeness.

Pato and Sheva to start for me. I don't know if Borri should be played all 90 minutes all 3 matches, since he's also had an injury. I think Kaka will start this one. And maybe later Seedorf shall push up into the treqqie role, while someone else fills in at the centre. THough I think this match won't be an easy one. Kaka already said, that we're trying out new things in matches, to lose some of that predictability, and it's quite likely that a lot of such moves might not work out. In which case the match won't be put to bed so easily.



Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 27 2008, 06:12 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2008, 04:53 PM) *
Personally I would like to see Kaka rested for this one, we have a tough one against Napoli on Sunday and Kaka being 100% for that one imo is more important. So I would go for something like this

Zambro--Bonera--Maldini--Antonini
Ambro--Seedorf--Puma
Pato
Sheva--Boriello


It will be sort of a 4-3-3/4-3-1-2 type setup. Pato and Sheva can both drop deep and play in that whole, I've seen Sheva do it countless times for Ukraine and I'm pretty sure Pato won't have any problem playing in that position. And Sheva and Pato can also drift wide and play off of Boriello. I think this will be more then enough for Siena and will allow us to rest some players for Sunday.

Rino and Dinho shouldn't play so close to recovering from injuries, no matter how minor they were, no use making any further damage when we have so many options for the attack and midfield

i quite like the formation but doubt that carlo will actully put 3 stiker ( kaka/r80 mite be called stikers but u know they are not )

Posted by: han2503 Oct 27 2008, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 27 2008, 06:12 PM) *
i quite like the formation but doubt that carlo will actully put 3 stiker ( kaka/r80 mite be called stikers but u know they are not )

Well in the simplest of ways it is basically 3 strikers, but you have to look at the work rate those front 3 put in and imo Pato, Boriello, Sheva will track back a lot more the Kaka, Dinho, Boriello. I know Kaka and Dinho are essentially midfielders but both aren't known for tracking back and doing the dirty work. I've seen Pato really going in for the ball in midfield this season and winning it something I've only seen Kaka and Dinho do in the Inter game only.

I think these things should be looked at from all the perspectives rather then just saying oh it's 3 strikers it's too attacking bla bla bla, Kaka and Dinho will give more balanced since they are midfielders. But unfortunately as you pointed out Carlo will only look at it from it's 2D view rolleyes.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 27 2008, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Well in the simplest of ways it is basically 3 strikers, but you have to look at the work rate those front 3 put in and imo Pato, Boriello, Sheva will track back a lot more the Kaka, Dinho, Boriello. I know Kaka and Dinho are essentially midfielders but both aren't known for tracking back and doing the dirty work. I've seen Pato really going in for the ball in midfield this season and winning it something I've only seen Kaka and Dinho do in the Inter game only.

I think these things should be looked at from all the perspectives rather then just saying oh it's 3 strikers it's too attacking bla bla bla, Kaka and Dinho will give more balanced since they are midfielders. But unfortunately as you pointed out Carlo will only look at it from it's 2D view rolleyes.gif

that is just the keyword dry.gif

Posted by: PatitoFeo Oct 28 2008, 01:11 AM

Yeah good call amancik. I think Siena will throw bodies forward, and kaka and pato are the two paciest players and best for counters. While Dinho and Inzaghi are on form, both are better possession players that see a lot of the ball, although Inzaghi is good at beating the trap.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Oct 28 2008, 08:45 AM

Don't know if its been posted already (I think it would have been - but I am too lazy to check) tongue.gif
Anywayz, here it is as related to this week's game (vs Siena):

QUOTE
MILAN-SIENA: THE DISCIPLINARY SITUATION
10/27/2008
MILAN - Milan approach the match against Siena on Wednesday night, valid for the 9th matchday of Serie A, with one suspended player, Marek Jankulovski. Also Siena have one suspended player, Gianluca Curci, and one cautioned player, Luca Rossettini.


laugh.gif thumbup.gif

Posted by: vahid Oct 28 2008, 02:17 PM

QUOTE
Gianluca Curci


So they have to user their 3rd choice GK happy.gif

Posted by: Tennie Oct 28 2008, 03:33 PM

panicsmiley2.gif panicsmiley2.gif panicsmiley2.gif WE HAVE NO CENTERBACKS!

Ahem.

Here's Carletto's pregame press conference (expanded highlights version. my translation).

THE GAME WITH SIENA
We can play better and we'll demonstrate that tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll evaulate the condition of Gattuso, Seedorf and Ronaldinho. Maldini? We'll see if he recuperates. Tiredness? The team's fine. What do I expect from Siena? An offensive game with a lot of action from the wingbacks and the trequartista, it'll be an open game.

SHEVCHENKO'S CONDITION
Sheva's working very well and is finding his condition. He's not doing badly, but he's still lacking a bit of reactivity (?reflex?).

THE CHAMPIONSHIP
The championship is open, Napoli and Udinese can stay in the lead for a long time.

GILARDINO'S SUSPENSION
From a personal point of view I don't agree with the suspension, but if that's the rule then it must be respected. I don't think it was a deliberate hand ball.

AN IMPORTANT WEEK
Bergamo could be the start of something big, with a victory against Siena we've got a good opportunity to go first, depending on how Inter, Udinese and Napoli play.

BORRIELLO
Borriello is an important player with characteristics we've never had. If he feels well, he plays, even two games in a row - why not? In any case even 30 minutes can be fundamental for a striker. Marco's grown as a player, he's changed his confidence and his faith in his own abilities.

THE SCUDETTO:
The scudetto is a great objective, a motivation for doing well. I think Milan might win the scudetto. Inter? More or less it seems to be the same strength as last year. Mourinho is a great trainer, my opinion on him hasn't changed.

POSSIBLE NEW ARRIVALS?
From Thursday, Nesta, Kaladze and Senderos should be available, for us they're important players.

RONALDINHO'S LATE NIGHTS
Ronaldinho was out until very late? And that he got home at 4am? He had permission to be out til 5, so he didn't have too much fun. It was Sunday night, he could do what he wanted. (Fishdoll note: huge scandal in the media that Ronaldinho and Adriano were both out until the wee hours - not necessarily together - Sunday. Adriano was apparently not called up because of it even though he wasn't late for training etc).


Posted by: KillerMax Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM

So... It's gonna be Bonera Favalli?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 28 2008, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 28 2008, 05:48 PM) *
So... It's gonna be Bonera Favalli?


Which is really not that bad, considering the opposition ...

On a side note, it is great that Bonera has solidified his performance for Milan. He is becoming more consistent a solid presence in the back line.

Milan will play with two strikers for this one, with Kaka' in support

Forza Milan devil.gif

Posted by: vahid Oct 28 2008, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM) *
So... It's gonna be Bonera Favalli?


Maybe Ambrosini as a center back unsure.gif

Posted by: Tennie Oct 28 2008, 03:54 PM

Dare one hope we might see Darmian?

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 28 2008, 04:06 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 28 2008, 08:54 AM) *
Dare one hope we might see Darmian?


Not even in Darmian's dreams...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 28 2008, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 28 2008, 03:54 PM) *
Dare one hope we might see Darmian?

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sorry Tennie, that made me laugh, Ambro has a bigger chance of playing in defence then Darmian has

Posted by: KillerMax Oct 28 2008, 04:13 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 28 2008, 08:51 AM) *
Which is really not that bad, considering the opposition ...

On a side note, it is great that Bonera has solidified his performance for Milan. He is becoming more consistent a solid presence in the back line.

Milan will play with two strikers for this one, with Kaka' in support

Forza Milan devil.gif


Kaka is a bit tired, but Ronaldinho is injured I think, so as much as I want to have Kaka fresh for Napoli game, we don't really have other options. Hopefully we'll secure the game in the first half and Kaka can come off early in the second half.

Not sure who is gonna play in the middle for us, but this is as far as I know:

Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Favalli Antonini
Emerson ...??... Ambrosini
Kaka
Borriello Inzaghi

But I think the better thing to do would be to start Pato and Inzaghi and sub Inzaghi for Borriello in the second half.


Posted by: vahid Oct 28 2008, 05:36 PM

MILANELLO - Questi i 18 convocati di Carlo Ancelotti per Milan-Siena:
Abbiati, Dida, Antonini, Bonera, Darmian, Favalli, Maldini, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Cardacio, Emerson, Gattuso, Borriello, Inzaghi, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko.
Indisponibili: Kaladze, Nesta, Senderos, Flamini, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Viudez.
Squalificato: Jankulovski.

We'll have Seedorf and Gattuso smile.gif

Posted by: Rivaldo Oct 28 2008, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 28 2008, 04:13 PM) *
But I think the better thing to do would be to start Pato and Inzaghi and sub Inzaghi for Borriello in the second half.

I think it will be Pato-Boriello and then change Inzaghi>>>Boriello

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 28 2008, 07:31 PM

carlo spoke abt sheva in the conference i think sheva could be getting a start

Posted by: Darunia Oct 28 2008, 08:19 PM

Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Favalli Antonini
Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
Kaka
Pato Inzaghi

Like to see Pato get a start, although I don't mind if Sheva starts instead.

Posted by: gal_kenny Oct 29 2008, 12:46 AM

Considering Carlo's speech I think we'll see either
------------Abbiati
----Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Antonini
------Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
---------------Kaka
-----------Pato Borriello

Or

------------Abbiati
----Zambrotta Bonera Maldini Antonini
------Gattuso Seedorf Ambrosini
---------------Kaka
----------Borriello-Sheva

I'm really waiting for Senderos and the remaining of our defenders to be fit...Maybe if Senderos doesn't play till January, we'll sign him permanently..

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 28 2008, 06:24 PM) *
Dare one hope we might see Darmian?


QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 28 2008, 06:36 PM) *
Not even in Darmian's dreams...


QUOTE (KillerMax @ Oct 28 2008, 06:43 PM) *
Abbiati
Zambrotta Bonera Favalli Antonini
Emerson ...??... Ambrosini
Kaka
Borriello Inzaghi


It's sad we can't even dare to think of Cardacio and Darmian being considered by Carlo for a starting spot... so sad. sleep.gif

Why are they in this team, seriously??

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 11:39 AM

Here's the projected lineup from both Mediaset and Gazzetta (they agree):
Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Antonini, Bonera, Maldini, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Seedorf, Ambrosini; Kakà; Pato, Inzaghi

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 12:44 PM

Programming note: Fox Soccer will broadcast the game tomorrow and Fox Sports in Espanol will broadcast the game tonight at 6 eastern.


Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 11:39 AM) *
Here's the projected lineup from both Mediaset and Gazzetta (they agree):
Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Antonini, Bonera, Maldini, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Seedorf, Ambrosini; Kakà; Pato, Inzaghi

Would really like to see a Pato-Sheva upfront. They played well against Zurich in the home match of the UEFA cup and I think if given time they could really form a good partnership.

Pippo should e used as an emergency backup plan imo. Put him on with 20 minutes to go if we still need a goal and let him steal it at the death, that's a classic Pippo appearance.

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 03:35 PM

Not everyone can play with Pippo. I believe there's no striker better than Sheva to be a partner of Pippo.

Posted by: Il Capitano Oct 29 2008, 03:53 PM

I hope that Antonini is on the left and Zambrotta on the right this time.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 29 2008, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (YoungGun @ Oct 29 2008, 05:35 PM) *
Not everyone can play with Pippo. I believe there's no striker better than Sheva to be a partner of Pippo.


Good point

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:01 PM

QUOTE
MILAN-SIENA: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
29/10/2008
MILANO - Queste le formazioni ufficiali di Milan e Siena:

MILAN: Abbiati; Antonini, Bonera, Favalli, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Emerson, Seedorf; Kakà; Inzaghi, Pato
SIENA: Manitta; Rossettini, Zuniga, Portanova, Del Grosso; Vergassola, Codrea, Jarolim; Kharja; Ghezzal, Frick

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 08:02 PM

Well....at least it's 2 dms instead of 3? And it really does look like an actual 4-3-1-2.

Posted by: armiss Oct 29 2008, 08:02 PM

Here we are :


MILAN-SIENA: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
29/10/2008
MILANO - Queste le formazioni ufficiali di Milan e Siena:
MILAN: Abbiati; Antonini, Bonera, Favalli, Zambrotta; Gattuso, Emerson, Seedorf; Kakà; Inzaghi, Pato
SIENA: Manitta; Rossettini, Zuniga, Portanova, Del Grosso; Vergassola, Codrea, Jarolim; Kharja; Ghezzal, Frick

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:03 PM

Tennie are FSC showing the match?

I noticed in one of your posts you said that they will be showing it but I don't see it listed as a viable streaming channel for this match huh.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Well....at least it's 2 dms instead of 3? And it really does look like an actual 4-3-1-2.

Personally would have preferred Sheva to either Pippo or Kaka, Kaka to get the rest, or for Pippo because I want to see Sheva and Pato playing next to eachother again to see what they can do

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:07 PM

favilli alert for me!!!!

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 08:10 PM

Han, they're showing the game tomorrow (some EPL game is shown today). Fox Sports in Espanol is showing the game starting at 6pm Eastern (just under 3 hours from when I'm posting).

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 08:15 PM

Favalli in the center... we might as well send Darmian back to the Primavera because he will never play under Carlo.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Han, they're showing the game tomorrow (some EPL game is shown today). Fox Sports in Espanol is showing the game starting at 6pm Eastern (just under 3 hours from when I'm posting).

Thanks for the update, forgot what you wrote exactly in the post so must have assumed they were going to show it live

btw, Favalli in the middle scares the cr@p out of me, really wish that Carlo would trust Darmian there, because imo, he has a lot more to offer then Favalli ever would

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Favalli in the center... we might as well send Darmian back to the Primavera because he will never play under Carlo.

exactly mad.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:19 PM

And if Antonini is again playing on the right and Zambro on the left everyone should come out and accept Carlo's utter stupidity rolleyes.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 08:23 PM

I'm not watching this match. please those who're going to watch, keep us updated!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 08:24 PM

And fingers crossed for a Pato goal tonight. it's been quite a while...

Posted by: Mook Oct 29 2008, 08:25 PM

Pato gets a start and your not going to watch the game zd.. tongue.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 08:23 PM) *
I'm not watching this match. please those who're going to watch, keep us updated!

np fanboy tongue.gif

We're all hoping for a Pato goal, I think he'll get one tonight

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 12:10 AM) *
Han, they're showing the game tomorrow (some EPL game is shown today). Fox Sports in Espanol is showing the game starting at 6pm Eastern (just under 3 hours from when I'm posting).

Yay! Per il ritorno del Fishdoll! 96.gif I knew you'd be back, Tennie!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:30 PM

anyone got a link bet365 giving some strange error

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:33 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:19 AM) *
And if Antonini is again playing on the right and Zambro on the left everyone should come out and accept Carlo's utter stupidity

As if they haven't already? huh.gif Rivaldo may not like me for saying this, but in my opinion, Carlo's an awesome tactician, but not so good a man manager. In fact, so terrible in selecting squads, it's almost his worst quality.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:34 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 29 2008, 08:30 PM) *
anyone got a link bet365 giving some strange error

if you have sopcast try this http://127.0.0.1:8902/stream

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 30 2008, 12:30 AM) *
anyone got a link bet365 giving some strange error

Or this: http://tvu://10007 cool.gif Weird commentary, but the picture rather okay!

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 08:39 PM

According to the italian commentary I'm getting (no pictures, mind) it's really windy at the San Siro.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:39 PM

Siena started strongly so far it's all them happy.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 29 2008, 08:33 PM) *
As if they haven't already? huh.gif Rivaldo may not like me for saying this, but in my opinion, Carlo's an awesome tactician, but not so good a man manager. In fact, so terrible in selecting squads, it's almost his worst quality.

I don't see it as a lack in tactical or man management qualities, we're talking about common sense that even a 4 year old is able to get, but Carlo apperantly does not.

Why play Antonini on the left when he has a weaker right foot then Rivaldo had in his day? Zambro I can understand going out to the left in case of emergencies, but why would he delibarately make them switch sides when he knows one of them is really weak with his right foot. Sometimes I just cannot understand this man

Posted by: jagar Oct 29 2008, 08:44 PM

anybody got livestream?

myp2p isn't working for me

Posted by: milanista1899 Oct 29 2008, 08:44 PM

http://enjoyitall.leadhoster.com/watch.php?id=410

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:39 AM) *
Siena started strongly so far it's all them

Which is exactly what any sane person should expect from us, judging by the line up on display from Milan. wink.gif I do hope we somehow walk away with all 3 points today, there's been no rhythm from the team up till now.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2008, 07:43 PM) *
I don't see it as a lack in tactical or man management qualities, we're talking about common sense that even a 4 year old is able to get, but Carlo apperantly does not.

Why play Antonini on the left when he has a weaker right foot then Rivaldo had in his day? Zambro I can understand going out to the left in case of emergencies, but why would he delibarately make them switch sides when he knows one of them is really weak with his right foot. Sometimes I just cannot understand this man

trust me u are not alone

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:47 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 12:39 AM) *
According to the italian commentary I'm getting (no pictures, mind) it's really windy at the San Siro.

Which it is, the players shirts are flapping quite hard. biggrin.gif Winds of change, perhaps?

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Oct 29 2008, 02:44 PM) *
http://enjoyitall.leadhoster.com/watch.php?id=410


Thanks!

Forza Milan!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:48 PM

I'm liking Emerson so far, really strong in the challenges, not dwelling on the ball too much like Ambro would do and passing well

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:43 AM) *
I don't see it as a lack in tactical or man management qualities, we're talking about common sense that even a 4 year old is able to get, but Carlo apperantly does not.

Why play Antonini on the left when he has a weaker right foot then Rivaldo had in his day? Zambro I can understand going out to the left in case of emergencies, but why would he delibarately make them switch sides when he knows one of them is really weak with his right foot. Sometimes I just cannot understand this man

It comes down to man management too a bit, he selects squads just to try and keep people happy. smile.gif And makes stupid decisions when it comes to starting line ups more often than not. Not just today with Zamborghini and Antonini, but so many times before.

Posted by: Nova Oct 29 2008, 08:49 PM

emerson is playing really good !!!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:50 PM

Oh soo close from Pippo there, headded the ball straight at the keeper from Seedorf corner.

Puma with another great challenge there

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:51 PM

Ditto. Emerson have the best match of his life, thus far! laugh.gif Grazie Emo!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (Nova @ Oct 29 2008, 08:49 PM) *
emerson is playing really good !!!

Yep really impressed so far

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 08:52 PM

Gosh. Are we seeing something approaching his Leverkusen form?

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:52 PM

Pato and Kaka really starting to get into the swing of things

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:53 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:50 AM) *
Puma with another great challenge there

I get it. It's because of all the news of David Beckham and his arrival in Milan. tongue.gif Maybe Emerson thinking now's the time to cement his place? Now or never kind of thingy? Who likes competition, anyway! It's got to be this.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:54 PM

btw, Juve are currently up by a goal against Bologna

Inter still drawing with Fiorentina

Posted by: Nova Oct 29 2008, 08:54 PM

omg patoooooo almost again !!!

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 08:54 PM

clicking into our passing game now

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:54 PM

ppato almost gud header

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 08:54 PM

What a chance denied by the Siena keeper..

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 08:56 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2008, 07:54 PM) *
btw, Juve are currently up by a goal against Bologna

Inter still drawing with Fiorentina

and napoli are 2-0 up the team whihc we play next

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 08:56 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 08:52 PM) *
Gosh. Are we seeing something approaching his Leverkusen form?

I think that pushing it a bit too far Tennie tongue.gif

btw, Antonini just hit the post with a header from a Seedorf corner

Seedorf really is whipping in those corners with purpose today, I'm used to him wasting them, it's a nice change

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 08:56 PM

96.gif Fishdoll score alert 96.gif

German Denis has scored twice so far for Napoli, who are up 2-0 over Reggina
Fiorentina - Cugini is scoreless
Bologna 0 - 1 Juve (Nedved)
Catania 0 - 1 Udinese (Sanchez)
Roma - Samp is scoreless

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 08:57 PM

20 quiet minutes from us, thus far. sleep.gif Nothing resembling a concrete or convincing attack/play, though some good passes strung together as I write this. Come on, lads!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 08:57 PM

Welcome back acid!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 08:58 PM

Udine is doing awfully good this season. Wonder how long it'll last.

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 12:57 AM) *
Welcome back acid!

Si généreux de vous, ZD. cool.gif So generous of you! Thanks.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM

Boriello or Sheva need to come on for Pippo in the second half we need something different up there, Pippo is about to break his own offside record

Posted by: vahid Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM

Why Roma-Sampdoria is suspended? huh.gif

Posted by: Nova Oct 29 2008, 09:02 PM

goal pippoooo

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (vahid @ Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM) *
Why Roma-Sampdoria is suspended? huh.gif

huh.gif

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:03 PM

great goal and great build up play!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:03 PM

this guy is in form super pippo amazing finish

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:03 PM

GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 09:04 PM

96.gif 96.gif 96.gif PIPPO!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:00 PM) *
Boriello or Sheva need to come on for Pippo in the second half we need something different up there, Pippo is about to break his own offside record

See I criticise Pippo there and he goes and scores on me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 09:04 PM

Inzaghi cracks me up! biggrin.gif He was offside by a country mile (or two), and after the assistant blew the whistle for foul, he was signaling him that it was impossible and he was playing on. Ha! Carry on, Super Pippo!

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:05 PM

Sh!t!! Rino seems to have hurt himself while giving his Pirloesque pass to Pippo

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:05 PM

pippo finish was too gud

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2008, 08:05 PM) *
Sh!t!! Rino seems to have hurt himself while giving his Pirloesque pass to Pippo

cardaccio may be unsure.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM

I know...I mean you made that statement and I was like...here it comes. When're you ever gonna learn?? tongue.gif

It's like players are waiting for you to criticize them to ramp up.

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM

Gee, just as I write that, Inzaghi goes on to score! cool.gif Gattuso assist.

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM

Re Roma-Samp, apparently the pitch is so waterlogged and the rain so hard that it's impossible to control the ball. The ref suspended the game after consulting with the respective team captains.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM

pato is playing with confidence and he is showing some strenght

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 09:07 PM

Rino assisted laugh.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM) *
I know...I mean you made that statement and I was like...here it comes. When're you ever gonna learn?? tongue.gif

It's like players are waiting for you to criticize them to ramp up.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I'll dish out some more if that means more goals and winning convincingly.

Damn you Pato, you don't do anything good, stop running around like a headless chicken an SCORE!!!

:runsandhidesfromzd:

btw, just as I'm writing this Pato goes on an amazing run and almost scores from way out biggrin.gif

Posted by: milanista1899 Oct 29 2008, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 07:56 PM) *
96.gif Fishdoll score alert 96.gif


Fiorentina - Cugini is scoreless

Non ho cugini! dry.gif Forza Viola! cool.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:09 PM

Pippo's just amazing. He's immortal.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:09 PM

Fiorentina still scoreless so far with the cugini, hopefully it stays like this, or any type of draw for that matter

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:10 PM

rino has also found his form he is everywhere rite now

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 09:11 PM

I hope it's not one of those nights that Pato has a lot of chances but ends the match empty handed...

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:11 PM

Favalli has not found his form =/

Im still worried, need a 2nd goal.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:12 PM

Antonini is trying hard but it just doesn not work yet.. unsure.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:13 PM

What a poor header that was from Favalli, almost gave Siena a golden opportunity there.

:slightlyworried:

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:13 PM

Sigh Favalli.. even as a 6th string CB, not good.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2008, 09:12 PM) *
Antonini is trying hard but it just doesn not work yet.. unsure.gif

Probably because he's constantly played on his weaker side. You can thank Carlo for that wink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Rino sweeping the ball around like Pirlo now

Posted by: acid911 Oct 29 2008, 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 01:06 AM) *
I know...I mean you made that statement and I was like...here it comes. When're you ever gonna learn??
It's like players are waiting for you to criticize them to ramp up.



Are you talking to me? huh.gif Are you TALKING to ME? tongue.gif No, I don't doubt him, he's a very good player.

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:18 PM

H.T a little patchy with the passing but a definate improvement from sunday wink.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:19 PM

pato,pippo, rino has been quite gud in this half while i had favilli alert as soon as i saw him on the team sheet

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 09:21 PM

HT 1-0.

If relative scores remain the same, we move up into 3d, 1 point behind Napoli and Udinese and 1 ahead of not-milanista1899's-cugini.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 09:22 PM

I can smell a Pato > Borriello < at the HT...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Oct 29 2008, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Antonini is trying hard but it just doesn not work yet.. unsure.gif


Yeah it does seem that way .. But this is the second time in a row for him, that he was fielded in that position while Zambrotta on the opposite. It could be that Carlo might want to convert him to the right ?! Maybe the sees something in him.

He was good in defense, always alert, rarely took risks and showed some potential and courage.


About the game .. Overall, it seems to be a one sided match, with a few hiccups biggrin.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 08:22 PM) *
I can smell a Pato > Borriello < at the HT...

i dont think so pato has been doing so gud

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:27 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2008, 08:25 PM) *
Yeah it does seem that way .. But this is the second time in a row for him, that he was fielded in that position while Zambrotta on the opposite. It could be that Carlo might want to convert him to the right ?! Maybe the sees something in him.

He was good in defense, always alert, rarely took risks and showed some potential and courage.


About the game .. Overall, it seems to be a one sided match, with a few hiccups biggrin.gif

i hate hiccups sad.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:29 PM

Why? Pato did well and I don't think Carlo wants to crush his confidence, at least not while we lead 1-0.


Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:31 PM

Let's not get complacent... we have Favalli in center defense after all.

Kaka/Pato need to finish them off. Then get Darmian some minutes!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:31 PM

players coming back on field let hope we increase our lead and and get all 3 points

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:34 PM

pippo should not be given the ball outside the box

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:37 PM

Good chance for Seina there, Abbiati with the save

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:41 PM

Siena now pushing forward...

1-1 Vergassola
Congratulations to our B/C defense..

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:41 PM

1-1

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:42 PM

dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:43 PM

Wow, that was bad defending, where was everybody?

Typical of us to take the foot off the pedal after scoring

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:43 PM

our attitude in secind half had been quite poor

Posted by: armiss Oct 29 2008, 09:44 PM

It's good to sleep !

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:45 PM

Emerson playing nice.. smile.gif

Hope we'll gain back the lead.

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:46 PM

terrible positioning from Antonini making space and not a player

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:47 PM

how many times pippo has been offside may be it is time to bring borrilleo for pippo

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:47 PM

Pippo offside again. Next time he'll score.. wink.gif

Posted by: armiss Oct 29 2008, 09:49 PM

Oh please

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 09:50 PM

Pato is not experience enough IMO

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 09:51 PM

Is anyone actually warming up?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:51 PM

penelty for milan

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM

gggggggggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Kaka!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM

kaka scores from the spot now stay focused ROSSENERIS

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM

KAKAAAAAA!!!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM

CAFU in the stands cool.gif cool.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 09:51 PM) *
Is anyone actually warming up?

Haven't seen anyone yet Tennie

hehe, look at Galliani biggrin.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 09:54 PM

Who earned the penalty?

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM

Pippo.. looked a bit soft

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 10:54 PM) *
Who earned the penalty?

Pippo

But I'm not sure it was a clear penalty.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM

Oh Pato really turning the gears now, his ball to Pippo was cut out.

He's really trying to put the assists in, he should try to be more selfish

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM

Surprised he got it to be honest... not too crazy about it

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM

Pippo won the penalty for us wink.gif

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 09:57 PM

Inter almost scores laugh.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:57 PM

We have to play now and keep the ball, cause with that kind of defense I'm not sure we'll hold till end.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Oct 29 2008, 09:55 PM) *
Surprised he got it to be honest... not too crazy about it

Well he did get shoved in the back while trying to reach Kaka's cross. I think it's justified even though a bit soft

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Pippo

But I'm not sure it was a clear penalty.

ref had a gud view of it he also gave a yellow to the tackler

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM

So, Pippo MotM so far biggrin.gif

QUOTE
Pippo

But I'm not sure it was a clear penalty.


That's usually the case when Pippo is fouled inside the box.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM

Great Milan-counter, Pippo with a wide volley..

Emerson OUT
Ambrosini IN

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM

Puma off Ambrosini on

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM

ambro for puma i think puma had a gud game

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM

To be fair the ball was past him when he got shoved, and it wasn't much of a shove to get Pippo to get down.

"It was far from a clear penalty, and you can bet they will discuss this decision for a long time tonight in Italy."

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:00 PM

i think sheva/borriello for piipo should happen

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:00 PM

Good save by Abbiati, Siena almost.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:00 PM

Ambro for Puma, unneccessary from Carlo

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 10:01 PM

Maybe he is saving Puma for Napoli hahaha biggrin.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:02 PM

again we have lost our focus

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:03 PM

Ambro really should consider going for the simple pass instead of trying to emulate Ronaldinho dry.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:03 PM

Almost a header-goal by Gattuso. Cleared off the line...

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:04 PM

rino gud header of the line by the defender.... seedorf has practised on corners

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:04 PM

Oh Rino so close cleared off the line by the defender

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:05 PM

Pippo OUT (MoM IMO)
Shevchenko IN

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 10:05 PM

yellow card for Rino laugh.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:05 PM

sheva-pippo sub gud move imo

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:05 PM

Sheva on Pippo off

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 10:07 PM

Rino MoM for me..

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:07 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 29 2008, 09:05 PM) *
Pippo OUT (MoM IMO)
Shevchenko IN

rino for me

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:08 PM

puma was mcuh better than ambro IMO

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:09 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 29 2008, 10:08 PM) *
puma was mcuh better than ambro IMO

Yep, don't know why Carlo took him off, ruined the only rythem we managed to pick up during the game

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:10 PM

Abbiati blunder... now a dangerous FK for Siena

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 10:11 PM

Dispite the goal, I think Antonini plays very good today.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:11 PM

FK to them in dangerous position

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:11 PM

OMG just wide

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:11 PM

Almost...my-o-my. Lucky...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:13 PM

WOW that was so close, nearly stopped my heart. Abbiati didn't even move!!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:15 PM

Sheva made a good play, Pato just wide.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:15 PM

sheva gud play pato could have done better

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:16 PM

Oh Pato so close, Amzing from Sheva there

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 10:17 PM

(exactly how many minutes left?)

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:17 PM

Pato should stay away from Pippo in the training ground, he used to be so aware of his positioning, now he's constantly caught offside

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:17 PM

OH now bonera down we cant afford another CB out

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 29 2008, 10:17 PM) *
OH now bonera down we cant afford another CB out

It looks like a bit of a cramp unsure.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:19 PM

kaka with a gud chance but bad shot specilly by kaka standards

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:19 PM

Great move by Pato, Sheva made a good assist, Kaka should have scored...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:19 PM

3 minutes more to suffer through

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:20 PM

Kaka again really close, again nice work from Sheva, Pato with the amazing run from his own half

Posted by: MizNelson Oct 29 2008, 10:21 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Oct 29 2008, 02:19 PM) *
kaka with a gud chance but bad shot specilly by kaka standards

It's "good," not "gud."

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Oct 29 2008, 10:21 PM

FT

Milan win all 3

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 10:21 PM

It's really good to sit right on the Inter's head laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:21 PM

we won all 3 points FORZA MILAN

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:21 PM

Finished another 3pts in the bag, a bit scrappy but it will suffice biggrin.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM

pato,antonini,rino these three had really gud game

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM

Fiorentina and Inter now going to extra time.

Come on hold on a bit longer!!!

Posted by: YoungGun Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM

What a chance!!! Can't believe in Kaka's shoot sad.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 01:47 AM) *
Pato should stay away from Pippo in the training ground, he used to be so aware of his positioning, now he's constantly caught offside



biggrin.gif

I remember in his first games last season he used to be so cautious about not being in offside. so much that I was always impressed. he clearly is distracted by something these days...

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:25 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM) *
biggrin.gif

I remember in his first games last season he used to be so cautious about not being in offside. so much that I was always impressed. he clearly is distracted by something these days...

I think it's like you said, he was more cautious in his first games because he was afraid of even putting a foot wrong, I think he's more free now and will get caught offside a couple of times. Still had a really good game today, too bad he couldn't score especially on his last chance when Sheva squared the ball to him

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:26 PM

pato mite have been offisde but his driblling and pace was really amazing

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:26 PM

Inter - Fiorentina going into 4th minute of extra time

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 10:26 PM

When was the last time we were ahead of not-milanista1899's-cugini in the league table? A cookie to the first person who answers.

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 10:26 PM) *
When was the last time we were ahead of not-milanista1899's-cugini in the league table? A cookie to the first person who answers.

Before winter break of the 05/06 season

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 09:26 PM) *
When was the last time we were ahead of not-milanista1899's-cugini in the league table? A cookie to the first person who answers.

last season after the first game they drew we won agaisnt genoa

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 29 2008, 10:29 PM

Last season..when we beat Genoa 3-0. biggrin.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:29 PM

Inter Fiorentina finished 0-0

up in 3rd place just one point behind Udine and Napoli.

Hopefully we'll play much better then this on Sunday and get onto the top of the table

We really need to put in a good performance against Napoli they're playing amazingly well this season and we really can't afford to drop points now that we can actually taste first spot in the league.

Posted by: Mook Oct 29 2008, 10:30 PM

1st and 2nd match of last season..

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 29 2008, 10:29 PM) *
Last season..when we beat Genoa 3-0. biggrin.gif

I think Tennie was looking for a position that actually lasted more then a couple of days tongue.gif

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 10:31 PM

+1 cookie to CMF. Thanks. smile.gif

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 09:31 PM) *
+1 cookie to CMF. Thanks. smile.gif

My first cookie double celebration for me today fiesta.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 10:33 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 02:00 AM) *
I think Tennie was looking for a position that actually lasted more then a couple of days tongue.gif


How do you know this time it will last a long time? biggrin.gif

Posted by: han2503 Oct 29 2008, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 29 2008, 10:33 PM) *
How do you know this time it will last a long time? biggrin.gif

shut up tongue.gif

Posted by: vahid Oct 29 2008, 10:38 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:34 PM) *
shut up tongue.gif


+1 tongue.gif

Posted by: armiss Oct 29 2008, 10:53 PM

beautful



http://img207.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=16400_untitled_123_44lo.JPG

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Oct 29 2008, 10:54 PM

QUOTE (armiss @ Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM) *
beautful



http://img207.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=16400_untitled_123_44lo.JPG

we need to make it more beauiful

Posted by: elcordobez Oct 29 2008, 11:04 PM

If anyone has noticed our aggressiveness is gained with Antonini/Emerson/Zambro/Rino something that was missing last season.

Posted by: aLbErTo Oct 29 2008, 11:08 PM

anyone has highlight already ??

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 11:12 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Oct 29 2008, 10:08 PM) *
anyone has highlight already ??

keep a eye on the video clips section wink.gif and the magic word is please tongue.gif

Posted by: dst Oct 29 2008, 11:18 PM

This is ****ing sweet! Above Inter and 1 point from the top! smile.gif

Posted by: Tennie Oct 29 2008, 11:23 PM

Here are datasport's player ratings:

Abbiati 6.5
Zambrotta 6
Favalli 6
Bonera 6
Kaka` 6
Antonini 6.5
Ambrosini 6
Seedorf 5
Gattuso 7
Emerson 6.5
Shevchenko 6
Inzaghi 6.5
Pato 6.5

Posted by: aLbErTo Oct 29 2008, 11:23 PM

QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 29 2008, 11:12 PM) *
keep a eye on the video clips section wink.gif and the magic word is please tongue.gif


magic word "please" was of course behind all my words smile.gif you're already under halloween time with all the magic stuff tongue.gif

Posted by: mishie Oct 29 2008, 11:28 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 29 2008, 10:23 PM) *
Here are datasport's player ratings:

Abbiati 6.5
Zambrotta 6
Favalli 6
Bonera 6
Kaka` 6
Antonini 6.5
Ambrosini 6
Seedorf 5
Gattuso 7
Emerson 6.5
Shevchenko 6
Inzaghi 6.5
Pato 6.5

bit harsh on Clarence i thought, but other than that fair

Posted by: Darunia Oct 29 2008, 11:29 PM

I thought Seedorf was pretty poor, maybe 5.5. He had trouble keeping control of the ball and lost posession numerous times, very unlike him

Posted by: Portikins Oct 29 2008, 11:29 PM

QUOTE (armiss @ Oct 29 2008, 09:53 PM) *
beautful



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TOP OF THE LEYGUE. cool.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 29 2008, 11:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 30 2008, 02:04 AM) *
shut up tongue.gif


Seriously. we are winning against these small sides by the narrowest margins... and we have to play with Napoli next round! no more 5-2's I can assure you wink.gif

Posted by: Tennie Oct 30 2008, 12:50 AM

Okay, I'm watching the game on replay now. Where on earth did Gattuso learn to play through balls like the one to Inzaghi? Did he steal part of Pirlo's brain?

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Oct 30 2008, 02:15 AM

I havent been posting here much recently (university and all) but i am becoming somewhat annoyed at some policies.

Firstly why is Favalli playing, and why is he playing as a CB? fair enough if we were playing a top team in which experience may be desirable, but Siena? surely Darmian could have been played. But i forgot that Ancelotti would rather play Inzaghi in defence than a promising defender. I am not asking for regular top level football for Darmian (or Albertazzi or Brusicgan(sp) - look what happened to Criscito at Juve) but throwing him on every now and then will only help him and us in the long run

Secondly why is Antonini playing as a RB? Zambrotta can play down both flanks, so why is Luca forced down a flank he isnt comfortable with. Maybe its a tactical ploy (does he cut inside then cross?) or maybe its because the opponents left side is relatively weak and right is strong, so Anto can be thrown down there. or maybe its because the right side need side needs more support so an attacking fullback is sent there. Why was Oddo loaned out if we are gonna turn a LB into a RB

Finally (this has been a long standing point) why does Emerson keep on playing? why does he still exist, why has he been allowed to play for us for so long. Emerson (now) is an inferior player to Brocchi

My last greivance is to do with the board. This can be summed up in two phrases - Beckham and stupidity with Primavera boys and youth players in general. Firstly youth, to be more exact Abate. Anyone with half an eye for talent, or anyone with eyes at all will have known that he played brilliantly in the Toulon torunament and the Olympics. Fair enough that he should have been shipped out but a co-ownership and no loan!? The inevitable has happened and he has put in some impressive performaces for Toro, we will now look stupid and pay too much to get him back, when essentially we could have recalled him for free. Paloschi too, although Parma have less resources so we can get him back for a reasonable price (but we still have to pay nontheless which is illogical, considering we could have loaned him out)

Jack Sparrow, before you say co-ownerships are normal (which they are to an extent) why was Giovinco repeatedly loaned out and not sent out in co-ownership deals? they saw talent in him and Juve knew that they would get ransomed to get him back. Why was Borriello repeatedly loaned out (before Genoa?)

Secondly is the fact that the Board are hell bent on collecting past stars and not building properly. Beckham on a two/three month loan is for commercial reasons, i gathered and to be honest the benefits outweigh the costs, but what is that motherf#####r Galliani decides to sign him for longer, what of Gourcuff or Cardacio. They will be sold and then we will have no competition for deep lying play maker.

Overall we are in danger of becoming a museum for lack of better terms. Will this player collecting stop? its unlikely, Ronnie, Sheva, Beckham it wont stop there and we have too many useless players. Emerson, Favalli and Dida. There are holes in our team which need to be cemeted over not papered over. Who will fill the gap then Maldini leaves? an injury prone Nesta? Our players will all retire at near enough the same time or will at least start declining in the near future. Will we buy a whole squad then, or will the better option have been to buy medium and long term prospects to prepare for this inevitable situation. Who will our leaders be when Gattuso and Ambro go?

Posted by: Tennie Oct 30 2008, 02:45 AM

+1 cookie to whoearthepatriots. Very nice post.

The only quibble I would make is about Emerson as he played today. I felt he actually did rather well today and that he was one of Milan's better players.

Posted by: Darunia Oct 30 2008, 04:31 AM

Emerson has been (dare I say) good lately... he's more physical than Ambro and doesn't dive into challenges, he's a lot slower though. He's a solid 4th DMF.

Posted by: acid911 Oct 30 2008, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 03:32 AM) *
Seriously. we are winning against these small sides by the narrowest margins... and we have to play with Napoli next round! no more 5-2's I can assure you

Word. cool.gif Though I hope you're proven wrong, but it's too big of a bet to make. Napoli is on the very top of the league table, so the more serious Milan takes them the better. I'm still smiting from our last defeat to them earlier this year, that crashed us out of the fourth place and CL. Darn, I hate that club.

QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 30 2008, 04:50 AM) *
Okay, I'm watching the game on replay now. Where on earth did Gattuso learn to play through balls like the one to Inzaghi? Did he steal part of Pirlo's brain?

Well, they are fast friends, and I've seen them sitting together more than once (in the recent Euros too when they were sitting out the Spain match with the Azurri). Maybe Rino's been taking creativity lessons from Pirlo? tongue.gif How To Be Creative And Influence Games!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 30 2008, 10:06 AM

Wow. great post patriots!!

Thank god there are still a few logical people left here...

I expect another monster post denying everything you said though. biggrin.gif you know after all, Galliani can't make a bad move in the market, and every decision Carlo makes regarding the formation and lineup is right. wink.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 10:32 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 30 2008, 03:36 PM) *
biggrin.gif you know after all, Galliani can't make a bad move in the market, and every decision Carlo makes regarding the formation and lineup is right. wink.gif


Now you got it. 1899% agreed with above comment.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Oct 30 2008, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 02:02 PM) *
Now you got it. 1899% agreed with above comment.


laugh.gif

I love your sense of humor!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 01:54 PM

What? huh.gif I'm dead serious.

Posted by: acid911 Oct 30 2008, 02:07 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 05:54 PM) *
What? I'm dead serious.

Literally speaking, or otherwise? unsure.gif Oh, my!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 02:22 PM

Well dead serious is not seriously dead. Semantics, pedantics, funny antics and all those other grammar thingies you know. sleep.gif

Posted by: acid911 Oct 30 2008, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 06:22 PM) *
Well dead serious is not seriously dead. Semantics, pedantics, funny antics and all those other grammar thingies you know.

Don't mess with my grammear and comsopoteition. mad.gif I've already warned you before, and I won't warn you gain, you pirate guy, you. tongue.gif Besides one can't be seriously dead, it's either dear or not. That's good grammar for you!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 02:29 PM

Well...if I were to shoot you just for a laugh, and you died and I found it funny, then you wouldn't be seriously dead, since we're all laughing right?

Posted by: acid911 Oct 30 2008, 02:37 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Well...if I were to shoot you just for a laugh, and you died and I found it funny, then you wouldn't be seriously dead, since we're all laughing right?

Aha! smile.gif But I'll still be dead, right? unsure.gif Won't I? Oh, goodness gracious!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 02:42 PM

Yeah..but it'll be "hoo hoo haa haa! ROFLMAO...acid's dead!!!" not "oh no..woe is me, acid is dead"

Posted by: acid911 Oct 30 2008, 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 30 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Yeah..but it'll be "hoo hoo haa haa! ROFLMAO...acid's dead!!!" not "oh no..woe is me, acid is dead"

That is some scary stuff, my pirate friend. unsure.gif Hello? Friend? No, I'm too young to die! You can't do that to me! Aaaaaaah! Anyway, even if I'm dead or not, it can't hide from the fact that Galliani does make some stupid mistakes every now and then, and Carlo makes some weird team selections more often than not. FACT.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Oct 30 2008, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 30 2008, 08:20 PM) *
That is some scary stuff, my pirate friend. unsure.gif Hello? Friend? No, I'm too young to die! You can't do that to me! Aaaaaaah! Anyway, even if I'm dead or not, it can't hide from the fact that Galliani does make some stupid mistakes every now and then, and Carlo makes some weird team selections more often than not. FACT.


Now why would you claim you wanna stay alive and then go on making obviously false, irreverent, ill-informed statements like that in the latter part of your post. mad.gif

Didn't you hear what zd said? Galliani can do no wrong in the market and neither can Carlo in the team selection.

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