[kurtsimonw]

I think the draw is split into two - North and South - then there are seeded and unseeded teams. I think Villa are in the north group, and seeded. I would presume Milan and Napoli would be in the south, so we won't get either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Giancarlo]

I think the draw is split into two - North and South - then there are seeded and unseeded teams. I think Villa are in the north group, and seeded. I would presume Milan and Napoli would be in the south, so we won't get either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Heheheh... Everton? Or maybe even Tottenham heheh?

This post has been edited by Giancarlo: Aug 28 2008, 10:17 PM

[kurtsimonw]

Heheheh... Everton? Or maybe even Tottenham heheh?

Not sure you're allowed to be drawn against teams from the same country. I'd ;like to play a Scottish team, if they have any!

[Fillipo Simone]

Not sure you're allowed to be drawn against teams from the same country. I'd ;like to play a Scottish team, if they have any!

Oh yeah, they can be drawn...

[kurtsimonw]

UEFA Cup 1st Round

*Seeding is determined by their UEFA Coefficient rating.
*The 80 teams are then split into 8 groups of 10 teams, 5 seeded teams and 5 unseeded teams.
*The draw for these is also based on their coefficient ranking with one exception: no country can have multiple teams in any group.
*These teams will play 2 legs, home and away, scheduled for 18 September and 2 October.
*The 40 winning teams will be divided into eight sections of five.

Seeded teams
Milan
Sevilla
Valencia
Benfica
Schalke 04
CSKA Moscow
Tottenham Hotspur
Hamburg
Stuttgart
Ajax
Olympiacos
Deportivo La Coruña
Everton
Club Brugge
Rapid Bucharest
Beşiktaş
Spartak Moscow
Paris Saint-Germain
Sparta Prague
Dinamo Bucharest
Heerenveen
Rosenborg
Udinese
Feyenoord
Sporting Braga
Levski Sofia
Austria Vienna
Slavia Prague
Manchester City
Galatasaray
Sampdoria
Hertha BSC Berlin
Partizan Belgrade
Nancy
Aston Villa
Portsmouth
Racing Santander
Rennes
Copenhagen
Hapoel Tel Aviv

Unseeded teams
Borussia Dortmund
Napoli
Brøndby
Litex Lovech
Vitória Guimarães
Dinamo Zagreb
Saint-Étienne
Zürich
Wolfsburg
Wisła Kraków
Vitória Setúbal
Marítimo
Standard Liège
Twente
Moscow
Artmedia Petržalka
Unirea Urziceni
Vaslui
Timişoara
NEC Nijmegen
Brann
Baník Ostrava
Kayserispor
Motherwell
Metalist Kharkiv
Red Bull Salzburg
BSC Young Boys
Bellinzona
Cherno More
Nordsjælland
Borac Čačak
Kalmar
MŠK Žilina
Lech Poznań
Slaven Belupo
APOEL Nicosia
Omonia Nicosia
Honka
Kaunas
St. Patrick's Athletic

So basically, you can not play a team in the first round that is:
1: In the same section as you (Seeded or unseeded); and
2: From the same country as you.

That's what I can tell from what I've ready anyways.

[acid911]

Seeded teams
Milan
Sevilla
Valencia
Benfica
Schalke 04

We seem to be in good company. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) A lot of my favorite clubs in there, in fact all of them, I like. All hail the UEFA Cup!

[kurtsimonw]

You missed Villa off that list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Nah, we'll probably get some 'average' team like Standard or Moscow and get knocked out, that's my feeling anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[acid911]

You missed Villa off that list.

Oh! I just took a cursory look at the first few. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) There's Villa, then there's Ajax, and Stuttgart. And Sampdoria. I'm amazed to see Villa seeded so low down though. It's a very decent club, unless they had a different method of seeding teams.

Nah, we'll probably get some 'average' team like Standard or Moscow and get knocked out, that's my feeling anyway.

I think we'll do good. Then again, that depends a lot on Carlo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) At the bare minimum the upper management would want him to finish 3rd and win UEFA Cup title. I'd pay attention to it (and the league, yes) if I were him.

[kurtsimonw]

Oh! I just took a cursory look at the first few. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) There's Villa, then there's Ajax, and Stuttgart. And Sampdoria. I'm amazed to see Villa seeded so low down though. It's a very decent club, unless they had a different method of seeding teams.

UEFA co-efficients are done on the previous 5 seasons, as they think that's a good indicator of how good the club is compared to others in Europe. Every team is given a minimum co-efficient rating dependant on what country they are in, too. For example, you get more points just for playing in the English league, than you would if you won the Icelandic title or something.

So Villa technically have a rating of 0, since we haven't been in the UEFA Cup for a while. In the 90s it was the norm, not qualifying would be a disaster, but we disappeared at the turn of the century and were nearly relegated a few years ago. Thanks to the English league doing well in Europe in recent years, it's meant the league co-effeicient for England is high enough to make us a seeded team, even though we probably shouldn't be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I think we'll do good. Then again, that depends a lot on Carlo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) At the bare minimum the upper management would want him to finish 3rd and win UEFA Cup title. I'd pay attention to it (and the league, yes) if I were him.

By "we'll go out" I meant Villa, I can see how it confused you though!

I personally think Milan could put out their second string and go far.

[acid911]

UEFA co-efficients are done on the previous 5 seasons, as they think that's a good indicator of how good the club is compared to others in Europe. Every team is given a minimum co-efficient rating dependant on what country they are in, too. For example, you get more points just for playing in the English league, than you would if you won the Icelandic title or something.

So Villa technically have a rating of 0, since we haven't been in the UEFA Cup for a while. In the 90s it was the norm, not qualifying would be a disaster, but we disappeared at the turn of the century and were nearly relegated a few years ago. Thanks to the English league doing well in Europe in recent years, it's meant the league co-effeicient for England is high enough to make us a seeded team, even though we probably shouldn't be.

Aha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Makes sense.

By "we'll go out" I meant Villa, I can see how it confused you though!
I personally think Milan could put out their second string and go far.

Double Aha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) For a second there I thought you meant Milan. I hope Carlo gives equal attention to both the fronts, and we win both of them. Plus, it'd be cool to somehow get Aston Villa in the final. It's be worth it, just to see your face once the final kicks off.

[Giancarlo]

Not sure you're allowed to be drawn against teams from the same country. I'd ;like to play a Scottish team, if they have any!

I checked the list and I think the only Scottish team is Motherwell...

[kurtsimonw]

I checked the list and I think the only Scottish team is Motherwell...

Yeah. Motherwell from Scotland or St. Patricks from Ireland. Either will do.

[vahid]

The draw is on 12:00 GMT.EurosSport will show it.

[amancik]

It's be worth it, just to see your face once the final kicks off.

Hurm...that would be interesting won't it? Conflict of loyalty.

[Fillipo Simone]

Gee, we're the first team to be drawn...

seems like we'll have to play against FC Zürich. Not the easiest opponent.