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Posted by: xudong Oct 19 2005, 10:40 PM
Will he miss the match against Juventus? 
Best wishes to him.
Anyone with news please update. thanx.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 19 2005, 10:42 PM
Best wishes to him. Anyone with news please update. thanx.
I'm no expert but I think he'll miss the game at the weekend but will play the one after that from the looks of it.
Posted by: xudong Oct 21 2005, 05:23 AM
It is a great relief to hear that he is ok. I am counting on him to hunt some zebras. 
Posted by: jagar Oct 24 2005, 04:06 AM
We're missing Sheva, Juv is missin Vieira, its sorta even i guess....considering both teams are now lacking one of their best players
Posted by: xudong Oct 24 2005, 06:03 AM
what do u mean?
did u say that Sheva still can't make Juventus game? damn it, that's awful. we won't have Nesta probably. but I am still confident that we can beat the crap out of Zebras.
Posted by: m1ke Oct 24 2005, 10:25 AM
I think Sheva will make it... and Inzaghi will partner him upfront
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 01:07 PM
What about Gilar?
Posted by: amancik Oct 24 2005, 02:09 PM
sheva will miss the game against empoli .... but i believe he will return for next week big game ...
Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 05:26 PM
Maybe good that Sheva dont play against Empoli, would be sad to have him rip the wound. As long as he thrases Juve as Jusual 
i am happy.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 05:57 PM
i am happy.Hopefully although I can see Pippo scoring against his old club
Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 06:57 PM
yeah i think pippo can make one.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 06:59 PM
Ha, ha I wonder what his celebration would be if he did
Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 07:03 PM
hehe well, i really like how he goes crazy after his goals, its great to see.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 07:11 PM
Yes but this is against Juve (his old team).
Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 08:03 PM
maybe he shows off against the juve crowd
Posted by: xudong Oct 24 2005, 09:16 PM
that would be a good one.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 09:26 PM
I think Inzaghi would not celebrate to his typical standards if he did score against Juve because he is that kind of person.
Posted by: xudong Oct 24 2005, 09:29 PM
I agree with you. I believe that he is a very appreciative person.
He probably should run to the Juventus Administration in Turin and celebrate in front of them. Haha, joking..
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 09:31 PM
Yes he is which is really good for a player of his calibre, unlike some other star players.
Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 09:42 PM
Juve dont deserve anyone to be nice to them. Moggi and juve is the worst that has happened to italian football lol.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 09:46 PM
Well I get the feeling you wouldn't be nice to them
That's the type of player Inzaghi is though appreciative
Posted by: xudong Oct 26 2005, 02:19 AM
do juventus deserve Moggi's being nice to them?
just messing with you.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 26 2005, 03:02 PM
just messing with you.
I think Inzaghi just is that kind of person, loyal.
Posted by: xudong Oct 27 2005, 07:57 PM
still haven't heard any positive news about sheva's comeback to juventus game. makes me nervous..
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:06 PM
We were worried why!!!
What a performance
Posted by: xudong Oct 29 2005, 10:13 PM
What a performance
that is our mighty milan. we don't need our golden ball winner to win against a nasty bunch of dopers.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:24 PM
Haha I thought we did before tonight but I was obviously so wrong
Posted by: xudong Oct 29 2005, 10:32 PM
actually PSV game is only a few days ago, the new question will be:
will Sheva be able to make it?
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:33 PM
will Sheva be able to make it?
I imagine so but will Ancelotti play him after how well the team played tonight?
Posted by: Portikins Oct 30 2005, 12:00 AM
will Sheva be able to make it?
Hum... maybe Gila-Sheva for Tuesday.
The team played well tonight, but I think Shevchenko will be back in action in Holland vs. PSV
.
Posted by: rjpado Oct 30 2005, 03:35 AM
The team played well tonight, but I think Shevchenko will be back in action in Holland vs. PSV
.will this be 100% sure? anyone have anything sure about shevchenko?
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 30 2005, 05:41 PM
I don't think we will know a hundred percent whether he will play or not until a few hours before kick-off.
Posted by: xudong Oct 31 2005, 12:22 AM
I agree.
I didn't know that he wasn't even on the bench until the game was over. I thought he was starting from the bench against Juventus.
then I saw him in casual clothes when celebrating...
Hopefully he will at least be on the bench against PSV.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 31 2005, 10:22 PM
Well I'm a believer that after the performance the lads put in against Juventus they should all start again unless they are injured or tired
Posted by: KillerMax May 26 2006, 07:02 PM
*Mods, please don't move this to the video forum for it's more than just a compilation topic. It's also a farewell topic to one of Milan's most inspirational and dedicated players of the past decade. Thanks*
A note to all Milan fans:
Hey all. I started working on this project long time ago and I would have never guessed it would become a farewell compilation. As I watch the video clips, I can't prevent myself from dropping a tear or two. Shevchenko is my idol. This is a man I have been watching closely for the past 8 years... What he has done for Milan can't be forgotten and disrespected. There is no replacement for him as some players just can't be replaced and they shouldn't be replaced. But as others have mentioned, there is more to one man's life than just a sport and we are ought to respect that.
Compilation info:
This is not an ordinary compilation. It's long and it's very high quality. It features Sheva's best goals from 1999 to 2004.
Title: Andriy Shevchenko- 7 extraordinary years
Duration: 23:49
Video quality: 2060 kbps
Exclusive to milanfan.com
Download links:
http://www.filefactory.com/get/v3/h.php?f=827ebd&b=7&c=8b1ed9480b6499ed
Enjoy!
filefront link coming soon.
Posted by: m1ke May 26 2006, 07:03 PM
Looking forward to this pKillerMax!
Posted by: daj0 May 26 2006, 07:36 PM
Yea sounds good,
Even on a sad day like this
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 26 2006, 08:09 PM
Sounds good pity it's about him leaving, oh how Milan are going to be nothing to how they were with him
Posted by: KillerMax May 26 2006, 08:41 PM
Stupid Filefront won't let me upload... The file is 350mb so, I can't put it up on yousendit... I guess I'll just have to try later.
Sorry for the wait guys...
Posted by: dst May 26 2006, 10:14 PM
try file factory...
Posted by: KillerMax May 27 2006, 07:35 AM
The comp is up now. Enjoy!
Thanks for sharing dst.
Posted by: arivanjj May 27 2006, 08:40 AM
thanx alot, great work.
Posted by: dst May 27 2006, 05:12 PM
* mods please correct my English where it's bad if you can, thanks!!!!It's a way for me to learn *
this is the least I can do for Milan's alltime 2nd goalscorer (that could have easily been the first )
The Master Of the House
Sheva's family was a traditional military one, the typical family of ex-USSR where commitment to arms and vocational rehabilitation were the one and the same!!!Back then noone believed that an all-blonde baby boy that first saw the light of day on the 29th of September, 1976 would so dramatically change those entrenched ideas and rebel against them. Andriy was not like all the other kids though! He was brought up in Dvirkivshchyna, a small village in Ukraine 90km east of Kiev and at his first birthday he saw people dressed up in crisp, imposing uniforms inebriated by the vodka his father, an army officer had stood them with.
Something's Cooking
His mother was the first person to understand that something was out of the ordinary
with Andriy. In spite of her not liking the idea that her only son would join the military she had to obey her stern husband's desires. "Andriy was born to be an artist, I knew it from the start. However if I had said that to Mikola he would have killed me".
First Touch With The Ball
In the home-camp of the Shevchenko family the word "ball" was unknown.Not until he first went to school did Andriy discover his aptitude, since he had only been kicking pillows and small round lunch boxes he secretly used to take from his mother's kitchen.It was the summer of '84 when Andriy began his football rebellion.For the first time his father (who had been promoted to brigadier in the meantime) was going to be apsent from home for about two months in order to organise and look over an infant regiment of the regular soviet army in former East Germany.Without the boogieman over his head, eight year old Andriy seized the opportunity and did things that until then he didn't know about and was indoctrinated to avoid.He came out of the house to go to the earthen field of Dvirkivshchyna where
he knew that Nikolai Hrustov, neighbor carpenter's son, with whom he had lucid bidding not to have any contact was.During the following two months Nikolai and Andryi became inseparable friends and the football was their first inamorata.It was then that the headmaster of the football school of Dynamo Kyiv Alexandr Spakov casually discovered Andryi and asked to meet his parents.
My Son Is A Bum?
Mikola's return from East Germany put an end to this story.Already credited Commander in chief of the Soviet army for the excellent fashion in which he organised the regiment in a foreign country, father Shevchenko returned home proud and prepared to share his happiness for this achievment of his with his successor to the glorious army of the country.Instead what he came in view of did surely gave him the needle; Andriy had taken off the one-coloured pullover that bore the CCCP emblem and having put on the Dynamo Kyiv training shirt while kicking in the yard the only thing that made him mad with rage; a football.Mikola, though a strict serviceman was not the kind of father that would beat his child.Anryi's discipline was close confinement in free-time and forbiddance to leave home for a month.Not because he had persuaded his mother to buy him the ball but for expressing his objections to the soldiering life his father was so ambitiously prepareing for him.Mikola refused to meet Alexandr Spakov and opted to instead mail him a letter in which he brought into relief that his own was to become an exceptional serviceman
and not any bum with long hair that would play football, listen to Rolling Stones and smoke marijuana.
The Move To Kyiv
In late 1986, and while the Kyiv residents had shyly started to compromise on life in ,because of Chernobyl, polluted air of Kyiv, Shevchenko's family moved permanently
to the capital of (afterwards free) Ukraine.Andryi then saw the opportunity
occur before his eyes and showed his father that he was not satisfied with the choices he had made for his own life; "He was barely eating, was very melancholic and his grades at school had already started to lower.I always dreamed that he would become a great serviceman, I was never a friend of football but no father likes to see his child pine away and Andryi had for the past two years showed that more than anything he enjoyed playing football" Mikola recalls.Seeing his own son in broken spirit he finally decided to meet the headmaster of Dynamo Kyiv's football school and think out his suggestion."Avocation with football is going to make him stiffer and, essentially, much more disciplined physically and mentally" was the gammon and spinach Spakov told Andryi's father and he agreed approving of the great transfer to Dynamo's school.
Father Silvio
Already in his first year there Anryi became the leading figure.While eleven he led the Dynamo youngsters to win the school championship of the town and hereupon the whole Ukraine confederation one.In his twelve he was the first ever student of the school who traveled (as a companion) outside of Ukraine following Dynamo's men team into San Siro where he trained with the Milan youngsters for two days.He returned home bringing to his classmates presents they had never before seen in the communistic Kyiv, such as Coca-Colas, gums and video games.In his thirteen AC Milan proposed to him to move in Italy in order to join the Rossoneri academies, and in his fourteen there was a guard outside of his house so that he wouldn't go to train.How did that happen?The fourteen year old's fame, reminiscent of Oleg Blokhin
(current Ukraine coach), had already surpassed the Soviet Union's frontiers as besides AC Milan, Ajax and FC Barcelona were also interested in obtaining his signnature while in the meantime the immature young kid gradually transformed into a beautiful teenager that had quite an impact on young girls.So how would he be able to consentrate on studying?He barely got a pass in most courses
and that pissed Mikola off as he saw that Spakov welshed on his promise that he would persuade young Andryi to permanently study in order to ensure his place in the school and continue his career in Dynamo in which he had began to take part in some of the men's training sessions.In January 1990, soldier Nikolai Chehov was commanded by Mikola to guard his house and to brief the brigadier whenever Andryi attempted to leave in order to join the training.This limitation had a positive effect in the control of the moppet who listened to his father and began studying intensively.
That was the last time Mikola believed that his son could finally forget about football and become an army man of quality.Almost a year after, when Andryi had already turned fifteen, at the home of the Shevchenkos came a letter from AC Milan, the usual kind of, the clubs send to blandish the parents of talented youngsters they closely follow up; "You have to be proud of your gifted son.We watch him permanently and we sure hope that he'll be here with us soon".Mikola kept the letter
and for the first time in his life he smiled for what his son insisted he wanted to become.It wasn't the pretty words that made him do so but the signature of the man
that had, obviously, inspired and written them by himself since the odour of the expensive pen remained fadeless; Honoured, SILVIO BERLUSCONI.
In about five months (the 29th of September) Andryi Shevchenko will look himself in the mirror and he will be thirty.He will then have his first football wrinkles, unfortunately in a blue shirt
Goodbye Sheva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Posted by: dst May 27 2006, 05:15 PM
Just d/led thanks!!!!
check on http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2291 too guys...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 27 2006, 05:23 PM
He is definatly going down as not only a legend, but as one of the 2 leading goal scorers in Milan's history.
Posted by: RD.X May 27 2006, 08:29 PM
Great Post dst - I didn't know any of those things about Sheva.He was my Hero and he still is!
Just a note about mysef:
I've been a footy fan + Milan fan for only a year and a half now and I've never watched Milan play cos of darned cable tv connections, but I've just bought a set top box and can watch most of the matches.
The Irony is that the player I wanted to watch the most in Milan colours was Sheva and to think I can't even watch him play for Milan once kills me inside.That's just my fate I suppose...
Posted by: dst May 27 2006, 08:46 PM
Just a note about mysef:
I've been a footy fan + Milan fan for only a year and a half now and I've never watched Milan play cos of darned cable tv connections, but I've just bought a set top box and can watch most of the matches.
The Irony is that the player I wanted to watch the most in Milan colours was Sheva and to think I can't even watch him play for Milan once kills me inside.That's just my fate I suppose...
so you're the one that scared him away
no.. really don't think about it.You're lucky cause you're about to watch "The Rebirth Of The Legendary Team"...Ha ha
(hopefully 
)
Posted by: Nova May 28 2006, 12:53 AM
He's not a Legend.
Maldini , Baresi , Rivera , Costacurta , ... are legend.
He could've become one , but unfortunatly he's joining chelsea.
Posted by: DvZ May 28 2006, 05:10 AM
Maldini , Baresi , Rivera , Costacurta , ... are legend.
He could've become one , but unfortunatly he's joining chelsea.
true... he is a legend in the making; despite not being an Italian or a Milanese ...
but, then, that's maybe the cause why he wont be a legend.. he can pack his bag to London .. a legend? nope... just another great player who once play for Milan
Posted by: Bluesummers May 28 2006, 06:25 AM
Thats what i hate about Chelsea, and most of the english teams. The players are either hated or loved. The fan base is half ***. Look at drogba, he was happy before he came to chelsea. Now he wants to leave, same with crespo and gallas. Milan have true fans; we dont ditch the team if there doing bad or have lost certain games. He will see this, and will regret it for the rest of his life.
Posted by: han2503 May 28 2006, 07:38 PM
In England mostly it's about a trend. Like this month it's the trend to idolise beckham , the next month it's owen and the following month is rooney. That's what I hate about english footbal it's so pretentios.
Rooney scored 16 goals this season and he is considered a god (because that is the trend right now to idolise rooney) Gila scored 17 goals and some people are already labelling him as a flop and a waste of money.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 31 2006, 04:39 AM
Rooney scored 16 goals this season and he is considered a god (because that is the trend right now to idolise rooney) Gila scored 17 goals and some people are already labelling him as a flop and a waste of money.
Mate, who idolises Beckham at the moment?! Nearly all people here want to see an inexperienced right winger (Aaron Lennon) take his place ahead of him in the World Cup, I think that says a lot.
Rooney is not considered a god because of this season! The fact that he is 19 and has produced what he has done so far in his career and the bags of potential he has got makes him a "god".
Posted by: Bluesummers May 31 2006, 04:42 AM
rooney is too cocky in my oppinon, he will learn his lesson soon. The guy is everywhere, plays defence forward mid, furthermore he has a bad temper. IF he gets to play in this wc, he will learn that he cant go running around just cause nistelrooy can take hi splace and have no problems.
Posted by: KillerMax May 31 2006, 07:13 AM
I guess this is not exclusive anymore since I just posted over at soccerpulse forums... But wow... Not a single comment about the comp... Kind od depressing...
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 31 2006, 02:51 PM
Man this comp is good, the clips were really high quality and it made very good watching, didn't like the Crazy Frog music mind! But no it was well put together.
Even though the download is about 300mb I would recommend it for other people maybe not willing to download a file that size.
Posted by: novfan May 31 2006, 03:04 PM
I can't seem to get it? can anyone help?
Posted by: Diavolo May 31 2006, 04:58 PM
Great comp pKillerMax! It got me all depressed and I still can't believe he's gone! Men we will never find someone like him! I don't know what to say I am just sad.
Posted by: KillerMax May 31 2006, 07:10 PM
What is the problem?
Posted by: m1ke May 31 2006, 07:34 PM
Whoops, I forgot I had downloaded this! Great comp to watch, it's just a shame that it was a tribute and not a celebration What I would give to meet Chelski in the CL next season...
Posted by: arivanjj May 31 2006, 10:25 PM
Yeah, i want to meet them in the quaters or semis.
Posted by: novfan May 31 2006, 11:39 PM
I clicked on the link you provided above...i get the countdown, then i get a message telling me that the ip address is wrong and that it'll direct me to the right one. Then i get another countdown. When the countdown hits 0 I can see what i think is the ip address...unfortunately though I can't click on it to download.
Is this right?
any help would be appreciated as I'm sort of anxious to see it.
Posted by: KillerMax Jun 1 2006, 01:38 AM
I'll try uploading it on another website.
Posted by: dst Jun 1 2006, 02:04 AM
it was nice watching it...but the music was bad I think...not that it's that important when you watch something so amazing
Posted by: novfan Jun 1 2006, 05:51 AM
If you could I'd be really thankful...Sheva's what made me a "Milanfan" in the first place, and to see an extended compilation would be grately appreciated.
Despite his transfer, and the sadness that it brings, he'll still be my favorite and to see a really thorough compilation would be great.
BTW...To hell with chelsea.
Posted by: weeeow Jun 4 2006, 01:06 PM
brilliant brilliant compilation, thanks a lot!
really realy sad he's left
Posted by: Warchant Jun 11 2006, 05:12 AM
I'm tired of hearing people (media included) asking who will replace sheva. No one is going to replace Sheva. And to put that pressure on another player would do more damage than it would good. So lets ask who is going to lead Milan next...not who is going to be the next Sheva. There is and never will be another Sheva.
I pray Millan doesn't try to go out and find another Sheva...I hope they judge them soley on skill and experience...not if they can fill Sheva's shoes. That's like asking Barcelona to find someone to fit Ronaldinho's shoes if he ever left. It's impossible.
Posted by: KillerMax Jun 11 2006, 06:48 AM
Very good point. I also thought about this too... I think Gila will be our next big striker... Not necessarly next season... But in the furure. I also think Kaka will play a big role for us now that Sheva is gone.
All this said, WE MUST GET TORRES! He is the kind of striker we are lacking... Everything Galliani has said is giving me a headache: "Sheva is going to be replaced with an equal..." "We won't sign a star..."
So that basically means no Torres... Or even worse, none of the candidates that we have mentioned so far, because almost everyone we have mentioned is a star...
Damn you Galliani! 
Posted by: dst Jun 11 2006, 11:21 AM
Exactly!!!We can't find the "New Sheva" this will hold us back just like it does Argentinians who try to find the "New Maradona" and before them Brazilians trying to find the "New Garrincha" (yes Garrincha is a bigger legend than Pele in Brazil).Not that Sheva is Maradona or Garrincha but we must look for an exceptional striker not a Sheva clone!!!Did we find a new MVB??No it's virtually impossible, but look us now thinking that Sheva is irreplaceable HE ISN'T!!!
FORZA MILAN
Damn you Galliani!
Torres is a star????Oh my God what are you talking about???Just because he had a very good and a mediocre season???Is that what's a star??Then what is Henry?Guys you should know better!!!!
he has to play great every single season not just show he's got potential to be a star!!!Even Sheva when he reached the semis with Dynamo wasn't a star back then.You can't characterize so easily!!Like Gulliver saying Ibra is a great striker..what exactly makes him great?He just had a very good display in Euro '04...He's a striker with great potential yes that I can accept!!!But no Torres is no star and Ibra is no great strikers YET
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 11 2006, 12:26 PM
he has to play great every single season not just show he's got potential to be a star!!!Even Sheva when he reached the semis with Dynamo wasn't a star back then.You can't characterize so easily!!Like Gulliver saying Ibra is a great striker..what exactly makes him great?He just had a very good display in Euro '04...He's a striker with great potential yes that I can accept!!!But no Torres is no star and Ibra is no great strikers YET
As for the Sheva topic...I told this a hundred times (but it´s never enough): Shevchenko left, we won´t find a replacement, but we will (I hope so,..neh, I´m pretty sure..) make, create a new player, just like we did with Andriy and all are other legends. The legacy must go on! Now it is to our scouts to find a new talent, a young and not (yet) prominent striker.
As for Ibra...has anyone seen the Sweden - TT match yesterday? Well, bravo for Ibra, he proved something I allready knew..he is a clumsy, arrogant and useless striker and not suitable for Milan. Just like Ruud Van Nistelrooy or Ronaldo. Players, who´s time ended long time ago.
In fact, there are just two star strikers suitable for Milan at this moment - Adriano and Drogba. And here it ends all. Torres? Maybe, but I have some bad expirience with spanish players in Italy..remember Jose Mari, Javi Moreno or even Mendieta (at Lazio)? But we really should look closer to some players from Holland, France, Eastern Europe, Brazil, Argentina or Africa. For ewample Ajax or Marseille have some real good strikers. So buy a young talent instead of a expensive star striker, but bring a star midfielder or defender. We could need someone like van der Vaart or Sneider to play the X-mas tree again as a variation if things go bad...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 11 2006, 03:29 PM
Well .. Warchant .. I really give this to u .. cz u took the words right out of my mouth .. There will never be another Sheva .. I must hand it to u also, that Milan shouldn't look for another Sheva-like-striker .. (which I'm sure MIlan has better sense than that) .. Instead look for a new way to play our football upfront i.e. to give more dimention to our attack line ..
As much as I hate saying this; I think it's healthy that Sheva left now, better than having him slacking off later on, so we could assess our options b4 it's too l8 ..
Posted by: Portikins Jun 11 2006, 04:32 PM
Of course, there's only 1 Sheva, only 1 Boban, only 1 Weah...
New good players will come.
Posted by: GULLIVER Jun 11 2006, 07:28 PM
As you said - his talent, that showed up in Euro 04, and sometimes in Juve and I'm very sure with some Milan treatment he'll shine again.
Anyways I won't agree with Filipo, he performed quite well in Sweden's match, though, he has a problem a still can't fix it. He had some decent chances to score and didn't, just like Larson!
About Drogba I can say, I was very much nicely surprized by his performance. A good companion behind him like Kaka and Argentina might have lost.
I think you understand what I mean
Posted by: KillerMax Jun 11 2006, 08:02 PM
FORZA MILAN
Torres is a star????Oh my God what are you talking about???Just because he had a very good and a mediocre season???Is that what's a star??Then what is Henry?Guys you should know better!!!!
he has to play great every single season not just show he's got potential to be a star!!!Even Sheva when he reached the semis with Dynamo wasn't a star back then.You can't characterize so easily!!Like Gulliver saying Ibra is a great striker..what exactly makes him great?He just had a very good display in Euro '04...He's a striker with great potential yes that I can accept!!!But no Torres is no star and Ibra is no great strikers YET
Well, I was more talking about the media aspect of it. Like they say the Atletic Madrid star... So I guess that means no Torres because Galliani said no star... It's all confusing man...
BTW, Torres is a star in the making. There is no doubt about that. It's only a matter of time until we see him shine on the big stage. Don't take my word for it? just wait...
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 11 2006, 08:45 PM
I don't see this point, we are not going to replace Sheva? Yet we are already debating people to bring in since Sheva has left if that's not replacing what is?!
When I have mentioned names Torres, Riquelme (God Damn I got killed for mentioning a midfielder not an attacker!!!) I don't see them just being there to "replace" Sheva in character, stature etc I'm just looking to the future and a good player to guide us to success, as I'm sure nearly every Milan Fan is!
I don't just see them as a replacement, hmm as I said at the start I don't really understand the point being made in this topic
Posted by: rangga7 Jun 11 2006, 09:49 PM
i just hate sheva choice becoz when maldini close to his retirement and we need some new captain, but he just go......
but i like torres i see a shine star on him i'm so glad if he join to milan
sheva semoga beruntung..... cuman semoga
Posted by: YoungGun Jun 18 2006, 04:31 PM
but i like torres i see a shine star on him i'm so glad if he join to milan
sheva semoga beruntung..... cuman semoga
>> Are you sure he will be our captain if he stay?
Milan board always reveal that they want an Italian captain!!!
Posted by: GULLIVER Jun 18 2006, 05:14 PM
Milan board always reveal that they want an Italian captain!!!
And preferably a defender or an defending midfielder!!! I think you can guess who I'm talking about
Posted by: dst Jun 18 2006, 07:23 PM
I can't refuse that...I just don't think stars are made that easily...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 18 2006, 08:59 PM
You are right...real stars come with the years, and many many matches. Some players shine for one period or tournement and then fall apart. I allways prefer players with 19, 20, 21 or 22 years to call talents, rather then stars. Robinho, Ribery, Torres - talents; Henry, Zidane, Sheva - stars! Cause it happens to often that we call someone to fast a star and then the young player doesn´t manage to hadle the pressure good. So be carefull when you proclaim someone a star!
Posted by: YoungGun Jun 19 2006, 04:58 AM
There's no U22 talent team can dominate Europe or even in a domestic league. Even you collect Torres, Messi, Robinho, Kompany, ... into one team. The reason is that they don't have enough experience to play equally during the whole long season (or even in a match). I also don't think we have enough world-class young talent players for all positions in a team. In history, Ajax was an example that similar with this (but not, because at least Van der Sar and Litmanen weren't youths but play important role in the squad).
The proof is that where is Cavenaghi? Alexandro? Boriello? ... and so on. Many of us even don't know who they are. That's mean in 10 talents today, the world will see only 2 or 3 world class players in the future.
If a team with all young talents, they are just a potential team FOREVER!
Posted by: felipe_el_chileno Jun 23 2006, 10:01 PM
I think that Kaká has what it takes to be the next Milan leader. He has discipline, talent, and he wish to be great.
Posted by: golfaspeed Jul 31 2006, 01:23 AM
I think the 3 best strikers in the world right now are Sheva, Ronaldo, and Henry. (in that order)
Now sheva is in the premiership and now we get to see who is better, sheva or henry? (and some kid they call Rooney) I really hope sheva does well in england. After all we trained him. If he does well over there....that means that milan is superior to the english clubs. We train our players to be the best in the world, not just serieA. And sheva is going to prove it.
About ronaldo, i think he is stilll really good, he just needs a better coach. I think he will rise again under capello. Unless we pick him this season..then we can put him through milanlab and make him a more complete player. and he will dominate serieA again. Thats my dream transfer to milan for this year. Ronaldo.
Posted by: gal_kenny Jul 31 2006, 01:43 AM
Maldini , Baresi , Rivera , Costacurta , ... are legend.
He could've become one , but unfortunatly he's joining chelsea.
Hey dude wat u talking bout.Andriy Shevchenko is a big time legend.What are u talking about.I don't understand what u are talking about but Sheva is a legend.Are u serious bout wat ur saying.Don't make me laugh.Can't believe u can say that.The highest scorer in europe ever isn't a legend.Are you kiddin me.DON'T EVER SAY THAT AGAIN.lol.BUT DON'T
Sheva is a of serieA and Europe and wat else can I say.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 31 2006, 04:01 AM
Sheva is a of serieA and Europe and wat else can I say.What Nova was refering too was that he isn't a Milan legend ..
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 4 2006, 03:35 PM
I think we should stop arguing about legend or not of Sheva. Why? Because everybody has his own answer. Ex, for me and the Board of Milan (as they presented) Sheva is a true man, a legend with 7 extraodinary years and many glory. But, others, forget all we had together and call him a traitor. However, they have their own reason.
IMO, he didn't leave us to Real when we are nothing and Real was everything. This story is enough to proved that he is a kind of man who never leave Milan when we need. And you, you blame him because he left us. However, are you 100% sure that if you were him, you won't leave???? Remember, being a star is the meaning of you have to satisfied millions of fan, also your private famili, habbits, purposes ...
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 4 2006, 03:38 PM
About the final answer, we don't have to find the answer now. Time will answer it. Once day, you will know he is our legend or not.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 7 2006, 03:54 AM
Yes, I believe that time will, enough that he is the second highest goal scorer for this club
Posted by: dudernahata Aug 7 2006, 08:08 AM
maybe he left after 7 years because of his number 7 on his jersey if only we gave him the number 11 instead
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 7 2006, 08:30 AM
if only we gave him the number 11 insteadWhat a coincidence
Posted by: sonics Aug 9 2006, 09:24 AM
until now i can't belive sheva moved to chelsea and i'm disappointed with his decision. whatever he has 7 beautiful season at milan. but i can't imagine if milan meet chelsea.
Posted by: sonics Aug 9 2006, 09:25 AM
until now i can't belive sheva moved to chelsea and i'm disappointed with his decision. whatever he has 7 beautiful season at milan. but i can't imagine if milan meet chelsea.
Posted by: amancik Aug 11 2006, 09:32 PM
I think we have to wait another 10 years to finally get a replacement for Shevchenko ...
Gunnar Nordahl 221
Andriy Shevchenko 173
Gianni Rivera 164
José Altafini 161
Aldo Boffi 136
Marco Van Basten 124
Giuseppe Santagostino 106
Pierino Prati 102
Louis Van Hege 98
Alberto Bigon 90
Nils Liedholm 89
Renzo Burini 88
Filippo Inzaghi (*) 78
Pietro Paolo Virdis 76
Marco Simone 75
Aldo Cevenini I 73
Pietro Sante Arcari 70
Daniele Massaro 70
Giovanni Moretti 68
Look at the list of all time goal scorers ... come on, he'll be a legend once he retires ... I know many may not agree just bcoz of his decision to move ... but we must not forget that he played 7 years for Ac Milan ... and he doesn't deserve to be called a traitor ...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 12 2006, 02:53 AM
if only we gave him the number 11 insteadOh well, we don't have to worry about Kakà then
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 12 2006, 10:08 AM
Posted by: sonics Aug 12 2006, 11:43 AM
maybe this season we don't have worry, how about next season?!!!
Posted by: BoomAM Aug 12 2006, 12:12 PM
Nice copy/paste job there.
Posted by: Diavolo Jan 16 2007, 12:43 AM
I was reading one of NHL (hockey) forums (Los Angeles Kings) and I found a topic where they were talkingabout Beckams move to their city. Offcourse in this forum are people from all over the world who love hockey and one of them is also one Italian guy who is actually also huge Milan fan (he has a season ticket for Milan for over 20 years) and the word somehow got to Shevchenko.
I quote wat they were talking:
Originally Posted by absoluticÂ
Speaking of AC Milan, Shevchenko is from my home town Kiev, Ukraine. Is it true that his wife was threatened in Milan by fans and that was one of the reasons he signed with Chelsea?
Nah, not threatened...that's way to much.
Shevchenko's wife is american and wanted to raise their son in England or US so he can learn to speak english, this is what Andryi said when he asked to be traded. But the rumor was around even before the request became official, so it happened that a couple fans who met her downtown Milan weren't very kind with her, but they only said "You B1tch, you're taking him away from Milan"...
This is the official version of why Shevchenko wanted to leave Milan. But there's another rumor going around here in the past few months, and I have a friend of mine who works in the fashion world who confirmed it. Btw, Sheva is a very close friend of Armani (They opened together a shop in Kiev), and the legend says Kirsten one day found his husband sleeping with an Armani's model (a guy). So she forced him to move to London or she would have told the media about it. Honestly I don't give a S about this story, I'm only disappointed with Andryi for leaving the way he did.
He could have said "Hey, he (Abrahmovich) will give me a ton of Euro and I want to play for another team". I wouldn't be happy as well, but still better than "My wife is the boss and I have to do what she wants". It's not that in Milan there'are not international schools to teach english to your kids...
I would not be shocked if they were talking abot a woman in Shevas bed but a guy (don't get me wrong - I have nothing against gey people).
This story about sleeping around with other people and the threat that she would have told the media about it, kind of explain why Sheva a couple of months before he left looked worried, tense (remember when he was sostituted) and out of nowhere started to confirm that he might leave Milan. I think that when he said that he wants to become like Maldini and end his carier in Milan he was telling the truth, but after that if wife caught him cheating everything suddenly changed and he was truly forced to move (to get away from his lover and wifenot telling the media).
Posted by: dst Jan 16 2007, 10:19 AM
Oh come on... you don't really believe this!!? As a matter of fact though Shevchenko IS a p#ssy...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 16 2007, 01:43 PM
Oh no we r not discussing him again !
Posted by: han2503 Jan 16 2007, 03:11 PM
Have we EVER discussed Sheva's gay tendencies???
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 16 2007, 03:15 PM
Now that is just sick
Posted by: han2503 Jan 16 2007, 03:15 PM
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jan 16 2007, 04:33 PM
Hleb Questions Shevchenko Decision
Arsenal midfielder Alexander Hleb believes Andriy Shevchenko should not have joined Chelsea in the summer.
The 30-year-old former Milan star has struggled at Stamford Bridge after scoring on his debut against Liverpool in the Community Shield.
Hleb told The Sun: "I would never have risked coming to England towards the end of my career. The older you get, the harder it gets.
"I was never convinced he would be able to play in England. I don't have anything against him. I respect him and rate him as a player.
"The problem lies in the style of the English league, in terms of the tempo and the time you get to think on the pitch.
"The Italian and English leagues are two very different propositions. And the younger a player is, the easier it is for him to adapt and get to grips with English football.
"There has been talk that Mourinho and Shevchenko have not found a common language.
"In my case, Arsene Wenger's role in helping me establish myself as a first-team regular was invaluable."
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jan 16 2007, 04:36 PM
Hmmm I think these 'homosexual' conspiracy is abit farfetched..
Haha nothing like kicking a man even more while he's down..
I'm on the bandwagon who feel sorry to see such a great player falling..
Posted by: mchanna Jan 16 2007, 06:43 PM
it's not farfetched,
I'm sure there are some gay football players, but they hide it, because their career would be ruined...
that would explain sheva's not scoring abilities.
yaya, just think I'm some crazy girl LOL
Posted by: han2503 Jan 16 2007, 06:57 PM
I'm sure there are some gay football players, but they hide it, because their career would be ruined...
that would explain sheva's not scoring abilities.
yaya, just think I'm some crazy girl LOL
Do you mean scoring goals, or scoring poles?
Posted by: Portikins Jan 16 2007, 07:11 PM
tribalfooball.com - January 16, 2007
Andriy Shevchenko is reportedly regarded by Chelsea teammates as a 'snitch'.
The Mirror says the rest of the players blame the £30million flop for the row between Abramovich and boss Jose Mourinho that is threatening to sabotage their season. They feel that Shevchenko, a close friend of Abramovich, is the owner's eyes and ears in the dressing room.
And they have been unsettled by the fact that the smallest details of the struggling striker's dealings with Mourinho appear to have found their way back to the owner.
"The players feel that if he is talking to Abramovich about his relationship with Jose, then what else is getting back," a source close to the team said last night. "They feel uncomfortable about the situation.
"It's a shame because the players think Sheva's basically a decent bloke but they can't really trust him any more and that's obviously no good for team morale."
Posted by: han2503 Jan 16 2007, 07:20 PM
Sheva just seems like he is manageing to hit a new low every other day
Posted by: mchanna Jan 16 2007, 07:32 PM
If that rumour would be true, say hypothetically, and his wife 'tortures' him mentally, with those "what have you done" gazes, and co,....
that explains why he'S unable to score goals lol
Posted by: han2503 Jan 16 2007, 07:37 PM
that explains why he'S unable to score goals lol
Oh so you meant goals. Sorry I thought you meant something else
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM
Haha nothings going right for him, poor guys going to commit suicide at this rate.
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jan 17 2007, 08:01 AM
Shevchenko backs Ancelotti for Chelsea job
tribalfooball.com - January 16, 2007
Andriy Shevchenko wants his former AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti to replace Jose Mourinho at Chelsea.
Shevchenko is reported by the Italian press to have told Roman Abramovich that Ancelotti is the man to get the best out of him and advised the Chelsea owner to bring the Italian to Stamford Bridge.
Shevchenko is supposed to have told Abramovich that "Ancelotti's the man for the job, he's just the man for us", which will hardly endear him to Mourinho, whose long-term position at Chelsea is in doubt.
Mourinho and several senior Chelsea players are suspicious of the perceived influence he has over the owner, which is shown by Abramovich's desire to recruit Avram Grant, the Portsmouth director of football, to improve the striker's form.
For his part, Abramovich is angry with Mourinho for failing to get the best out of a proven goalscorer who cost a club-record £30 million last summer and has taken the view that a player such as Shevchenko should be able to be integrated into any system.
Mourinho contends that he has done everything he can, defending Shevchenko publicly and playing him in every match until a Carling Cup tie away to Blackburn Rovers at the end of October, giving him a rest and attempting to motivate him further by saying that he is not one of his so-called "untouchables".
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 17 2007, 08:35 AM
yes, wouldn't you like that.
Posted by: han2503 Jan 17 2007, 09:52 AM
First he went to London ten he took the Milan physios and shrinks with him and now he wants Carlo.
He went there for change, so I thing that him clinging to the past is not going according to plan.
Posted by: dst Jan 17 2007, 11:30 AM
Mommy that man with the stupid coat won't let me play!!
Moommyyy... will you buy me that fatty?? I wanna hop on his belly!
Hey you! My kid is the best in the world so do what I say or you're fired!!
... it has now been reduced to a drippy soap opera!! (I'm almost sad)
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 17 2007, 12:33 PM
HAHAHA.. LOOOL
Posted by: milanistar Jan 17 2007, 12:55 PM
Just almost
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 17 2007, 02:38 PM
I never though this was to be his fate !!!! This is just sad
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 17 2007, 04:18 PM
Shevchenko has really fallen from grace
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"
the convo probably went like that
Posted by: han2503 Jan 17 2007, 05:48 PM
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"
the convo probably went like that
Wouldn't put it past her, she seems like she is capable opf something like that, and if I where Sheva and she was carrying my child I would have also gone.
But I highly doubt that this is really what happened
Posted by: mchanna Jan 17 2007, 07:16 PM
I highly doubt sheva is gay, instead i think his wife coerscied him into going to london
"move to london with or i will leave you"
the convo probably went like that
Yeah can be like that...
but the gayness is not a weird thing in football world...
it's just that nobody comes out with it.
I have a good fantasy imagination, so Sheva being gay is not unrealistical for me lol
Posted by: milanistar Jan 17 2007, 07:21 PM
Why are you ppl still talking about the reason he left?
I mean who cares if he's gay or not, I don't!
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Jan 18 2007, 05:56 PM
Haha if his wife said she'd leave him.. he should have asked when. He could have picked up alot better tail than her. No idea how she is a model.
Posted by: kaka_sheva Jan 18 2007, 06:01 PM
Andriy Shevchenko says he has been made a scapegoat for Chelsea's current problems and is furious with reports suggesting he has become an unsettling influence at the club.
But Shevchenko, 30, told the Times: 'I am being made a scapegoat for things that have nothing to do with me.
'I have been attacked from all sides but I intend to carry on. I will grit my teeth. I am not a quitter I just want to be kept out of the politics.'
Shevchenko also rejected reports that he is a dressing-room 'spy' of owner and friend Roman Abramovich.
He told ESPNsoccernet: 'This is not true. I'm just one player, I'm part of the team like all the others and I don't think this is true at all.'
'I've got the same relationship [with Abramovich] as other Chelsea players, I'm just one player in the team, and I've got the same relationship as all the other players have.'
The former AC Milan player has shrugged off suggestions that there is tension between him and boss Joe Mourinho and insists he would accept any decision the Portuguese manager made.
He added: 'I highly respect him as a manager.
'Mourinho is a great manager. He has showed how much he's worth by winning so many titles,' he adds.
'He has won many titles, but I cannot judge him either as a coach or as a person because I haven't known him for long enough.
Shevchenko feels he has acclimatized to London, but his on-pitch performances have not been up to scratch and he has come under intense pressure to find the net.
'It's hard to judge my performance,' he says. 'The year is not over yet. So far I have not been at my optimum level, I need time but I'm working as hard as I can.
'I need more time, I need time to fit in, I played for another team, for a long time and now I've come to a new team. I need time and luck as well.'
Shevchenko however has now decided to stop talking to the English media - unless asked to do so by the club.
He declared: 'There have been a lot of quotes coming out from me that I don't even know where they've come from.
'They have caused a lot of hurt to me and my family. From now on other than sanctioned club press conferences all my comments will appear here on my official website.'
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=400383&cc=5901
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 18 2007, 10:28 PM
LOOOOOOL
Ohh poor Shevchenko .. yes yes ur not a quitter, now go and play golf 
Posted by: mchanna Jan 18 2007, 11:26 PM
I liked the headline "Abramovich's puppy" more *pouts*
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 18 2007, 11:28 PM
Fits his charactor just right
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 19 2007, 12:11 AM
He does have a good point though. It's not his fault chelsea are not beating every team 6-0, he is only one player. Secondly whenever he is playing he gets marked like a mofo, so drogba or kalou find more space therefore allowing them to score. Premiership soccer is not a place for 30 year old strikers because you have less than 5 seconds with the ball. What i dont get is why the F*ck would you marry a f*cking g*dd*mn porn star. She models nude, hehehe now we know what sheva did on his lonely nights in milan . The reason he left was more money, he'll retire in a few years so why not make some extra cash. Also think of this aswell guys, do you honestly think this year and the year after that he would have been able to "save us" if he stayed here, i think not. He's old he's slow he's done and he knows it. Murinho's time is up aswell, he should just leave. He doesnt belong in england, those manager positions only seem to do well with brits. Don't be hating on sheva so much cause he left you, dont cry about it. Even if he steps onto a pitch during his current form, defenders still fear him. Its not like they leave him unmarked. Do you think Puyol isn't afraid of him? Murinho will get cut for two reasons. He is playing the same f@cking style of football for the past two years. WE get it buddy it works. But now some of english defenders have used some brains and now he cant seem to win. IF chelsea were somewhat smart they would have bought fernando torres who could adapt, not some striker whose pretty much old and useless. sorry for gramatic errors.
Posted by: mchanna Jan 19 2007, 12:19 AM
. The reason he left was more money, he'll retire in a few years so why not make some extra cash. that's the part I agree with 100%!!!
but I'm also on the other hand 100% sure, that sheva would have been like sheva if he would have stayed at milan
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 19 2007, 12:27 AM
but I'm also on the other hand 100% sure, that sheva would have been like sheva if he would have stayed at milan
yes finally! someone quotes what i say!
i'm gonna go celebrate!!!
Posted by: han2503 Jan 19 2007, 11:52 AM
i'm gonna go celebrate!!!
But on another note, I don't think Sheva was finished. I'm pretty sure he would have still been good for us, sure he had been in decline for these past few years, but he was still what drove us on and our current form just shows how much we miss him.
Would I take him back? I don't think I could ever look at him the same way, Just a couple of months ago I could have never imagined Sheva wearing another shirt other then the red and blakc, but now I just can't imagine him in it.
Sheva made his mistake, now he has to live with it.
About Chelsea not going for Torres, well we all knew who wanted Sheva and that was Roman Abramovic and not Mourinho.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 19 2007, 06:37 PM
Mourinho has said Torres is too slow
Too Slow!?!
He is faster than Villa, who mourinho rates better
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 06:57 PM
Too Slow!?!
He is faster than Villa, who mourinho rates better
Yes but Villa scores 3 times more
Posted by: han2503 Jan 19 2007, 07:08 PM
Villa is more consistant, where as Torres is more skillfull
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 08:59 PM
Villa plays for one of the strongest teams in la liga, whereas Torres, holds the whole weight of keeping Athletic Madrid up in la liga
I think Torres handles the pressure better than Villa.
But that is my opinion
Posted by: han2503 Jan 19 2007, 09:35 PM
I think Torres handles the pressure better than Villa.
But that is my opinion
Sort of like a certain Gilardino at Parma...?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 10:03 PM
Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened nextTorres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 10:13 PM
Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened nextTorres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A
I think han meant he was as important as Gila's Parma who kept them in Serie A almost by him self.
Posted by: han2503 Jan 19 2007, 10:15 PM
Gila's position was different .. He wasnt a first team player until just 3 yrs ago .. He came into Parma's first team in late 2003 .. We all know what happened nextTorres has been with Athletico for sometime now and has been the back bone of his team for some time now.
I dont know .. Even if I try to explain it, I wont be able to show u my side of it, cuz it's just that Gila is an in-box player, while Torres is an all-round footballer. He can integrate with any team easily, cuz his talent is vast, while Gila .. He plays in one place and one place only plus other players have to sacrifice for him to score, they have to do all the work. Whilst in Torres's case, he moves the ball to create a goal oppertunity for himself or team-mates. Basically if Torres leaves Athletico Madrid, the team would fall hard on its back (kinda like what happened to us when S7 left), while when Gila left, Parma r still in Serie A
If Gila wasn't at Parma in his last season they would have gone down.
But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 10:36 PM
But I get what you mean. Different types of players, but still both are/where important to their respective teams
Yes they both are/were important for their respective teams
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 10:38 PM
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs
Not sure they also have Aguero
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 10:46 PM
Yeah .. still Torres holds his own weight .. We still had Kaka and look what happened to us
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 10:49 PM
Since when Kaka is a striker
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 10:52 PM
Since he became our highest goalscorer in the CL and league .. When the team was so out of form
Posted by: han2503 Jan 19 2007, 10:57 PM
But Gila could be replaced, since he is an in-box, While Torres (just like S7), cant be replaced .. They will struggle as we did if not more ..
In the end .. They both had certain duties at their clubs
Agreed on that.
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 11:05 PM
Come on, you know what I mean!
Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 11:13 PM
Aguero is the same striker type as Torres, so if Torres goes Altetico will still have a great striker, whereas since Oli is not scoring we don't have sheva's replacement!
Yeah but Aguero isn't exactly playing at Chelsea or Milan; where there is a strong squad available to support the attack.
I get what u mean, believe me I do ..
If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early
Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
Posted by: milanistar Jan 19 2007, 11:33 PM
I get what u mean, believe me I do ..
If Torres moves, Aguero wouldn't be the replacment for Torres as he has different charectoristics, he isn't a leader as Torres/Sheva are .. He is good, actually very talented, but just like Villa .. Maybe in time he'll turn into someone the club could lean on, but now .. I think it's too early
Oliviera isn't Shevchenko's replacment .. He is a stand in. Sure the team depends on him, cuz he is filling in for Sheva, but he isn't exactly Sheva.
Ok, I get your point
And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 19 2007, 11:45 PM
And about Oli, if he managed to score and be the same he used to in spain, I'm sure every one will see him as Sheva's replacement!
About that ..
I heard a lot of ppl saying good things about him in la liga, though I havnt seen anything from him when he used to play at Betis ..
Posted by: misha Feb 9 2007, 07:22 PM
If somebody can upload it again I'll be very thankful
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 9 2007, 07:54 PM
I'm uploading it now
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Feb 9 2007, 08:20 PM
http://www.zshare.net/video/grazie-sheva-wmv.html
uploaded : 9-Feb-07
Posted by: misha Feb 10 2007, 01:44 AM
uploaded : 9-Feb-07
Thank you!
Posted by: javierk128 Mar 5 2007, 05:18 AM
could somebody upload the video please? i really want to see it, but the links doesn´t works anymore
Posted by: misha Mar 5 2007, 12:16 PM
This link http://www.zshare.net/video/grazie-sheva-wmv.html is still working
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 26 2007, 09:32 AM
that is not it!!!
i'm reuploading the real thing "Andriy Shevchenko - 7 Extroardinary Years"
350MBs
EDIT: would anyone know any sites for 500mb upload limit?
i tried filefront and megaupload, they stopped right in the middle of the upload
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 26 2007, 09:55 PM
Posted by: m1ke Mar 27 2007, 12:02 AM
Man, we miss him big time. Still, I'd love to knock Chelsea out of the CL.
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 27 2007, 04:55 AM
Chelsea - Milan CL final
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 27 2007, 02:14 PM
I think it's bound to happen - We could beat Chelski anyways
P.S. Thanks for the repost of this compilation!
Posted by: han2503 Mar 27 2007, 05:21 PM
Don't want to watch that again. Very painful
Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 27 2007, 06:55 PM
Great job PkillerMax.. fantastic qualitty.. fantastic vide, brings back real memories..
Posted by: misha Mar 27 2007, 09:58 PM
Thanks a lot arivanjj
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Mar 28 2007, 02:22 AM
Chelsea - Milan CL final
AC Milan - Liverpool CL final
Posted by: arivanjj Mar 28 2007, 07:26 AM
yes i get where you're coming from, we certainly have some unfinished business
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Apr 30 2007, 12:43 PM
Didn't know where to post it, just interesting possibility for the former great man.
Thats a fairly useful triangle.
Barca plan Sheva swoop
Spanish giants Barcelona are hoping to lure ex-Milan star Andriy Shevchenko away from Chelsea this summer. The Ukrainian captain has come in for heavy criticism since his £30m move to the Premiership and reports are still claiming that there are problems between Sheva and Blues boss Jose Mourinho. Barca are reportedly preparing a bid of £15m for Shevchenko, with Coach Frank Rijkaard eager to use the striker in a dream trident attack alongside Samuel Eto’o and Ronaldinho.
Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2007, 06:36 PM
Thats a fairly useful triangle.
Barca plan Sheva swoop
Spanish giants Barcelona are hoping to lure ex-Milan star Andriy Shevchenko away from Chelsea this summer. The Ukrainian captain has come in for heavy criticism since his £30m move to the Premiership and reports are still claiming that there are problems between Sheva and Blues boss Jose Mourinho. Barca are reportedly preparing a bid of £15m for Shevchenko, with Coach Frank Rijkaard eager to use the striker in a dream trident attack alongside Samuel Eto’o and Ronaldinho.
Not gonna happen.
Sheva mainly went to Chelsea because of their geographical status
Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 2 2007, 08:33 AM
^^^^ Coz England is closer to Ukraine??? j/k
Posted by: Portikins May 3 2007, 10:04 PM
I heard he's a bit sick today. Any confirmation?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 3 2007, 10:19 PM
^^ what u taling about ??
Posted by: Portikins May 3 2007, 10:20 PM
??Shevchenko. I heard last night he was a bit sick. Specially from 22:00 UK on...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 3 2007, 10:33 PM
And ur calling acmilan.com jew
Posted by: fresh_prince7 May 4 2007, 07:54 AM
Destiny Calls As Milan Savour Liverpool Re-Match
Is there such a thing as destiny in football? Manchester United fans had dared to believe it was their destiny to re-live the club's glorious 1999 treble this year. Jose Mourinho seemed to think it was his destiny to lead Chelsea to an unprecedented quadruple, and is struggling to accept that it is not to be. But Rafa Benitez, his captain Steven Gerrard and the Liverpool camp remarked a few weeks ago that they were getting the same sort of feeling about the Champions League as they had in 2005, when they went all the way and won the trophy in dramatic fashion.
Now on 23rd May in another Balkan hot-spot, Athens, Liverpool and Milan are destined to meet again for another trial of strength, tactics and nerve.
You could sense from the first minute in a sodden but soaring San Siro that Milan were men on a mission. They flew out of the traps and had Manchester United rocking back on their heels from the start. The sheer energy and purpose of their opening play proclaimed not only their belief that they could overturn the 3-2 deficit from Old Trafford, but also their burning desire to have another crack at Liverpool, who booked their ticket 24 hours earlier in the drama of a penalty shoot-out against Mourinho's strangely one-dimensional Chelsea.
Cajoled and inspired by the irrepressible Rino Gattuso, an all-action midfield enforcer and work-horse who in turn kept stoking the Rossoneri fans to a higher pitch of fervour amid the torrential rain, Milan controlled the match for all but a 15-minute spell at the start of the second-half.
They were sharper in the tackle, quicker to the ball, more inventive in their use of it, and typically resolute in defence in a way they were not at Old Trafford. United, unexpectedly flat and lacking the spark that Ferguson had been counting on when he promised a massive, attacking performance, simply had no answers.
Their suspect defence was exposed, their midfield effectively overrun and their attack unable to create or exploit space. Paul Scholes toiled manfully, always probing; but Michael Carrick was anonymous, and on the flanks neither Cristiano Ronaldo nor Ryan Giggs could get much change from their Milanese markers. United repeatedly lost possession - either carelessly with a misplaced pass as they were hustled into hasty decisions, or because the tackles snapped in as they dwelt on the ball.
Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, Kaka and the ageless Clarence Seedorf, shimmering with quality and hungrier than ever, had Athens in their nostrils and Liverpool in their sights; United were merely an obstacle to be swept out of their path. Kaka, Seedorf and Alberto Gilardino scored the goals that achieved that objective.
We waited in vain for United's famous powers of recovery to kick in; a goal for the visitors would surely have refuelled their belief and given them some momentum. But it never came. Dida was rarely troubled; Rooney well below his best. United, by Sir Alex's own admission, never really looked like scoring.
Ferguson had not previously lost a European tie in which United had secured a first leg lead, but other history was against him: Milan had overcome them in their previous meetings, including twice before at the semi-final stage.
As an ageing team, Milan are sometimes criticised for lacking new blood. Yet in those relatively old legs there is such a wealth of experience at this level. The Rossoneri were striving for a third Champions League final in five seasons. By comparison, United's side are tyros.
And perhaps there is another significant factor here, one touched upon - albeit gracelessly - by Mourinho. When the domestic league title is beyond you - and Serie A and the Premiership have long been beyond Milan and Liverpool, respectively, this season - it is easier to be single-minded about progressing in the Champions League. Neither United nor Chelsea, slugging it out for the Premiership title, had much let-up, or the luxury of resting several key players, in the build-up to the semi-finals.
But this was not an occasion for excuses, and to his credit Sir Alex did not look for any. He was gracious and magnanimous in defeat. Unarguably, Milan deserved their victory, and now the final beckons. It is hard to imagine we will see as thrilling a final as Benitez's Liverpool and Ancelotti's Rossoneri served up two years ago in Turkey. But the tactical battle of wits is sure to be compelling.
Meanwhile, imagine how Andriy Shevchenko must be feeling now. The team he struggles to fit into are out; the one that fitted him like a glove are preparing for another final. It's all about destiny....
How are you feeling sheva..
The once king of the san siro.. missing out on enjoying another final with your real family..
Left your home to play in the champions league final or was it to win the premiership with chelsea..
Worked well either way..
Posted by: blue_prince May 4 2007, 02:49 PM
Shevchenko Wants Milan Return – Berlusconi
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=295714
any idea whats going on there?
Posted by: m1ke May 4 2007, 03:02 PM
I was in favour of having him back a few months ago, but we've really found our feet recently. It finally seems that we've moved on, and with Ronaldo in the CL next season I think we're going to have another great campaign.
Sheva will always be Sheva, but I don't think that bringing him back now would be the right decision (unless we get him for considerably less than what we sold him for!)
Posted by: dst May 4 2007, 03:05 PM
Only if Chelski agreed on a Kaladze-Shevchenko swap deal...
It's won't happen. It's just Silvio...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 4 2007, 04:41 PM
Get Rid of Olivera and get Sheva back cut price
Everyone wins, except chelsea of course
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 4 2007, 08:11 PM
Everyone wins, except chelsea of course
I think that us best. Oliviera never really got his chance on the pitch anyways. Milan kept favoring Inzaghi and Gilardino to him, now that Ronaldo is here. Oliviera isn't exactly as effective; I mean, we have Gila, why do we need another
And Chelsea would get a screw up ... But is Abramovic gonna accept giving Sheva back plus money fair
Cuz if I know Silvio, Shevchenko is worth less than Oliviera at the moment
Posted by: jefri91 May 4 2007, 08:22 PM
Sell Oli to Ittihad and buy Sheva
Posted by: blue_prince May 5 2007, 10:28 AM
only becuz we r playing 4-3-2-1 wilth a stand alone striker, i dont think it wud be great to have sheva back. and i am really behind this christmas tree formation, where both kaka and seedorf gets huge space to play and score as well.
maybe having ronaldinho will strengthen our formation and put a restriction in buying any more striker.
Posted by: I_Rossoneri May 5 2007, 11:59 AM
I don't want Sheva to return. He was the one who was desperate to leave Milan , He was the one who was secretly talking to abra about a move for three years and he is the one now paying the price for his betrayal
The sad fact is that he would have been remembered as a Milan legend but now he is remebered as just another player.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 5 2007, 01:08 PM
I would rather see Sheva in a Milan Shirt, rather than a Barca, Madrid, or Inter shirt
If we cant have him nobody can
Posted by: arivanjj May 5 2007, 01:33 PM
i think one 30 year old striker is enough. we need to look for fresh blood! not the past
Posted by: jefri91 May 5 2007, 02:06 PM
he has done so much for us in the last 7 years. Can't believe you guys just put him aside and call him a traitor
Posted by: han2503 May 6 2007, 12:54 PM
He left when the club needed him the most, jumped ship when the water was getting rough.
Now he can stay where he is. And besides I doubt he really wants to come back. These are all just rumours
Posted by: fresh_prince7 May 6 2007, 01:30 PM
Haha and now this debate comes up again.. lets just enjoy all the events that have happened in 2007. It really has been our year thus far.
Sheva gave us his soul for 7 years, took us to glory, led the team as captain. Ok he left when we really needed him, but he's still the 2nd all-time scorer and also a golden ball winner for our club. We've more than proven we can win without him even if that took time and tactical changes. He made a mistake which I'm sure if he could take it all back he would, but he's suffering enough. No doubt he will still be a legend of this club to any doubters, you can't blemish what he did for this club during his time here.
Anyway lets enjoy this moment instead of looking to the past, we've got a much bigger thing to rectify.
Posted by: arivanjj May 7 2007, 10:45 AM
even if he comes back, how can one be so sure that he'll regain his old form?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 7 2007, 11:26 AM
Many thought Ronaldo was finished before he came here, but he did regain his form
Posted by: arivanjj May 7 2007, 11:37 AM
well even for him, it took much time.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 7 2007, 09:43 PM
Didn't he score 2 in his full debut
Posted by: Portikins May 9 2007, 10:12 PM
5/9/2007
MILAN - In the course of the press conference to launch the deal between A.C.Milan and Eagle Pictures, Adriano Galliani answered a question concerning Andriy Shevchenko: 'Sheva remains in our hearts, he and his wife have been invited to Athens to follow the Champions League Final. As for the future, let's see, he is a Chelsea player. Anyway, he knows, we will keep a place open for a few months seeing as after his marriage Kakà has freed up a non-European Union place. But we are not talking about the future too much, now we have to think about the final.'
It's on our official website.
I can see what we're gonna do this Summer...
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 9 2007, 10:18 PM
I can see what we're gonna do this Summer...
Looks like I'm going to have to change my name again...
Sheva Is B...latantly rubbish in England so comes running back!
Posted by: Portikins May 9 2007, 10:25 PM
I was thinking on that.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 10 2007, 01:46 AM
He kissed a shirt other than Milans' !! He left for $$, he left for his wife, or whatever reason he did ... He left.
If he comes back .. He will loose all respect I have for him !!!
Abramovic payed 30M in Sterling for him ! He isn't going to give us Sheva back on the cheap and Silvio will NEVER pay more than 10M EURO for a warn out Shevchenko !
As much as I liked this player, this news is making me loose respect for him. He didn't get as much attention in London as he did at Milan and now he wants to come back and act like he didn't walk out on a chance to become a legend ?? All he will become is a fringe, bench player. With Ronaldo up front, Shevchenko ... Ronaldo and Shevchenko ...
I like
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 10 2007, 11:08 AM
If the price is right I'd like him back, only if the price is right.
It looks like we are going to try and pay way over the odds for a certain Brazilian so let's not do it with Sheva too.
Posted by: dst May 10 2007, 12:06 PM
I don't think we're going to spend big on him, if any...
I'm almost sure Sheva wouldn't have been allowed to leave if Abramovic's offer was lower... we got the money and now we're not going to give it back.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 10 2007, 02:09 PM
Tutu Mercato ... Says that :
If Mourinho stays at Chelsea next season (very likely) then Shevchenko will move to AC Milan on loan.
A Sheva loan ?? Good deal, with that, we would give Pato (or anyone else Milana re looking at) a chance to mature over next season.
A very entertaining attacking line up
Kaka----------R10
Ronaldo -- Shevchenko
Who wants a piece of Milan
Posted by: han2503 May 10 2007, 03:13 PM
If Mourinho stays at Chelsea next season (very likely) then Shevchenko will move to AC Milan on loan.
A Sheva loan ?? Good deal, with that, we would give Pato (or anyone else Milana re looking at) a chance to mature over next season.
A very entertaining attacking line up
Kaka----------R10
Ronaldo -- Shevchenko
Who wants a piece of Milan
That whole magic square thing never works although Sheva is better then the lazy idiotic Adriano
As for Sheva, we should really forget about him, we can't continue to live in the past. He made his decision and left, no use in crying over spilt milk.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 10 2007, 03:51 PM
Sounds good but why the hell would Chelsea want to loan him out at his age? He would just be another Crespo, I'm sure if he were to move then Chelsea have the sense to get a transfer fee for him.
I'm sure they will sign one, if not more out of Villa, Torres or Owen so surely they would be looking to sell Crespo and Sheva (if they want him to leave). I know Roman's rich but I'm sure he isn't dumb.
Posted by: dst May 10 2007, 03:51 PM
A loan deal with Sheva?? That's never gonna happen!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 10 2007, 04:49 PM
As for Sheva, we should really forget about him, we can't continue to live in the past. He made his decision and left, no use in crying over spilt milk.
Well han, u would have to forget about the Brazilian national team of 06 ... I'm sure Carlo would stay firm with his tactics, he wont adopt the square ... Maybe swap between R9 and S7 .. Or R10 and R9 or something like that. In which case, he would be able to compete on all 3 fronts and conquer
(Hell, give me a team like this and I will breeze through all competitions)I'm sure they will sign one, if not more out of Villa, Torres or Owen so surely they would be looking to sell Crespo and Sheva (if they want him to leave). I know Roman's rich but I'm sure he isn't dumb.
Nope he isn't dumb, and I doubt he would let him leave. But when I read it .. I had to post it.
I really dont want Shevchenko to come back, but the idea of Ronaldo and Shevchenko is just giing me goose bumps.
Posted by: HasanHasanly May 10 2007, 04:57 PM
would be just complete if he moves to the other Milano side
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant May 10 2007, 05:40 PM
Point 1:
Yes, he did leave, but to have him back like I've said before at the right price I wouldn't say no to.
He left because of his wife, who wanted to live the London lifestyle, now she knows how $hit that really is (no offence Mike!). Yes he did kiss the Chelsea badge but he immediately after the game apologized to the AC Milan fans how many players would do that???
This guy is something else, or have you all forgot the goals, the assists, the runs, the skills, the pace, the effort and the heart Sheva contained and blatantly still does for Milan. I'm not saying I expect him to be treated like a king not for the first few months anyway until he proves himself to us again.
Point 2:
I think the main reason a lot of people are saying no to Sheva is because they want Ronaldinho in this team, the only major impact of having him in our team in my eyes is when you're down the pub with your mates you can say "yeah but we have Ronaldinho in our team". Someone was mentioning above about stars in Man United's team and how they rely on CR if we have Ronaldinho it will be like watching C.Ronaldo but an older/deteriorating version, we simply do not need this guy.
At first I thought wow Ronaldinho? That would be great, but when you look in reality if he does leave he will become the most expensive player in world football. We already have Kaka who's better than him (people unbiased would say that now), this would issue the message to Kaka yes you have scored 10 in 12 but we still want to sign the guy with the fancy name, great moral boost that would be.
We wouldn't be able to play the way we play with Ronaldinho in our side, we have a team of hard workers not one-trick show ponies and that's what makes Milan what Milan is! At this moment in time I wouldn't swap any of our midfielders, not even for one of the 2 Ronnies!
Posted by: dst May 10 2007, 09:07 PM
That's exactly what he's become. Some time ago that wasn't the case but right now he plays only for himself!
This is Rivaldo all over again and even worse, I was so disappointed when we signed that guy!!
Posted by: Tennie May 10 2007, 09:12 PM
If we must have Shevchenko back (I'm not sure I like the idea much), can we insist that he leave his scary wife in London? She's the one who wanted the move afterall...
Posted by: Portikins May 17 2007, 11:28 PM
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/articoli/articolo362293.shtml
Berlusconi saying he would like Shevchenko back.
"It would be fantastic if he returns."
Posted by: Bluesummers May 18 2007, 07:38 AM
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/articoli/articolo362293.shtml
Berlusconi saying he would like Shevchenko back.
"It would be fantastic if he returns."
Porty why did you have to go and show that pic, i almost cried
Even though i dont want him back, but the memories...
i think i need anti depressants.
Posted by: misha May 18 2007, 10:41 AM
Milan President Silvio Berlusconi insists that he would be delighted to welcome back Andriy Shevchenko to the San Siro.
The Ukrainian quit the Rossoneri last summer when he joined Chelsea in a £30m deal, but the 30-year-old has had a difficult first season in the Premiership.
Although the striker recently committed his future to the Stamford Bridge outfit, rumours continue to claim that Sheva could be on the verge of a sensational Italian return.
“I am a Sheva fan,†the former Italian Prime Minister noted. “I would love him to come back and it would be a great signing for us.â€
Milan had targeted Ronaldinho, but Berlusconi’s dreams of seeing the Brazilian with the Rossoneri jersey next season were shattered on Thursday after the player rubbished claims that he was leaving Barcelona.
Shevchenko’s return is therefore a possibility and Vice-President Adriano Galliani recently admitted that the club was willing to keep free a non-EU spot in their squad, while they waited to understand the Ukrainian’s future decisions.
Berlusconi was also inevitably questioned about next week’s Champions League Final with Liverpool in Athens.
“We must prove that we are stronger than bad luck, envy and injustice. If we will be able to do this, the Cup will be ours,†concluded the Via Turati chief.
Berlusconi has still not properly digested the outcome of the 2005 Final when Liverpool came from a 3-0 deficit to win the trophy on penalties.
Posted by: dst May 21 2007, 01:45 PM
Kakha Kaladze would not be surprised if his good friend Andrei Shevchenko quits Chelsea this summer.
Kaladze and the Ukraine international were team-mates at Milan prior to the striker's Blues switch at the start of last season.
Shevchenko has kept in regular touch with Kaladze and has given the impression that, after an indifferent campaign in England, he may be ready to move on.
The £30million capture netted just four goals in the Premiership amid talk of a divide in the dressing room and lack of support from Jose Mourinho.
"To do well at a new club you need help from your team-mates and I don't think the Chelsea team have helped Shevchenko at all," Kaladze told the Sun.
"Andrei and I are still friends. We speak a lot and he's not happy with what has happened this year.
"I am not sure what he is going to do this summer, but I don't think he wants to stay after a season like that and after the way the coach has behaved towards him."
Meanwhile, Kaladze has revealed he missed out on a move to The Blues back in 2005 as Milan were not interested in selling him.
"I spoke to Chelsea in 2005 and I wanted to go there," he continued. "But I still had a year left on my contract at Milan and they didn't want to sell me.
"Now I am really glad I stayed because a lot has changed for me and now I have the chance to play in the Champions League final."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=467658&CPID=8&clid=8&lid=8&title=Kaladze+expects+Sheva+exit&channel=&
I want Kaladze to meet his friend again, at Chelsea!!
Who stopped that transfer?? Silvio... I'm coming to getcha!!
Posted by: arivanjj May 21 2007, 02:20 PM
strong words there from Kakha!
Posted by: dst May 21 2007, 02:33 PM
it's on the Sun so...
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 22 2007, 12:11 AM
Please. Lay off Kaladze, he's not THAT bad.
Maldini/Bonera played the first leg, we let in 3.
Kaladze played the full 90 in the second leg, we didn't concede. Take into account that United had to chase the game for 80 minutes.. They didn't need to do that in the first leg.
Posted by: dst May 22 2007, 08:48 AM
On the contrary, United HAD to win in Old Trafford to stand a chance in Italy. At San Siro they entered the pitch with a defensive set.
And don't just look at numbers. France's defense was much better than Italy's one in the '06 World Cup even if they conceded more. It's not just me, the Italians admitted so themselves!
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 22 2007, 01:48 PM
And don't just look at numbers. France's defense was much better than Italy's one in the '06 World Cup even if they conceded more. It's not just me, the Italians admitted so themselves!
They may have gone in with a defensive mind-set. But they went in with the same formation and same players (Except a better defense than the first leg) But when they were down they had to throw everybody forward, Kaladze didn't make one mistake. Just because he didn't do anything spectacular doesn't mean he played badly.
A defenders job is not to play superb, it's not to do anything wrong.
I personally thought France had a very poor defense. Any team that has Evra in the squad has defensive issues.
Posted by: dst May 23 2007, 01:21 AM
Kaladze did some mistakes in positioning and he also tried to dribble Giggs (I think that was him) and it could have ended badly. Anyway, next to Nesta and God everybody would look good, even Phil Neville! I'll supporting each and everyone of our players tomorrow evening!
As for France's defence... well, I think Italians know better than any of us!
Posted by: BoomAM May 23 2007, 07:32 AM
Dont know who you've been talking to, but i dont know a single Italian who has said that. Including me.
As for a better defense, statistics speak for themselves.
Prior to the final, 1 goal conceeded, and that was a penalty.
How many did France conceed on the way to the final?
.
Posted by: dst May 23 2007, 08:59 AM
That's what I've been talking about... a defence is not just the goals conceeded...
I've been talking to Italians who came to Greece.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 31 2007, 12:50 AM
Shevchenko has failed to live up to expectations in the Premiership this season following his £30m move last summer, and there have been strong suggestions he will return to the San Siro.
And, while it is unlikely Milan would be willing to match the price Chelsea paid for the Ukraine striker, Galliani remains committed to getting his man.
"With the right conditions, as we have said for weeks, we are ready to buy him back," he told the Daily Star.
Many of those involved with Milan have come out to say there are no grudges against Shevchenko for moving to London last year, paving the way for his return to the club.
However, Galliani is concerned that their arch-rivals could yet steal the player from under their noses, with Internazionale president Massimo Moratti known to be a keen admirer of Shevchenko's ability.
"I know how to forgive betrayal. I just hope he does not speak to Moratti," he added.
"The only problem is the price."
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=469264&CPID=8&clid=8&lid=3&title=Milan+ready+for+Sheva
Surely Sheva would never go to Inter?
P.S. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.
Posted by: KillerMax May 31 2007, 01:20 AM
If he goes to Inter, I hope he dies. I mean that.
Posted by: Portikins May 31 2007, 01:21 AM
P.S. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.
I think he doesn't have the guts...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 31 2007, 01:25 AM
I wouldn't even care if he went to Inter
He has given me enough surprise to last his whole playing career. But I doubt he would agree to talk to Inter, cuz of Berlusconi being his child's godfather and all.
Posted by: misha May 31 2007, 01:27 AM
It's not that. C'mon He won't even consider it. And there no reason to think he ever will. He knows whats that mean.
BTW Sheva scored more goals against Inter than any other team.
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 31 2007, 01:32 AM
I think it could possibly be one of the most shocking moves ever, if he did actually move to Inter, although it not being a direct move.
Still wouldn't top Figo from Barca to Madrid, that still cracks me up.
Posted by: Tennie May 31 2007, 01:36 AM
Y'know, I wouldn't put it past Moratti to try this.
But the Crespo deal was handled via fax (Inter must have a thing for faxes, what with getting a scudetto that way). Peter Kenyon and the other Chelsea directors stayed in London.
Right now, the only Chelsea employee in Milan is Shevchenko himself.
(Personally, I don't want to see him back. He walked out on the club, kissed the Chelsea jersey, etc etc. Let him rot in London. Or Kiev.)
Posted by: kurtsimonw May 31 2007, 01:44 AM
I think I might let the jersey kissing go.
He wasn't exactly welcomed by the fans, I think it was just a showing that he wasn't there as Roman's friend, but as a Chelsea player.
I wouldn't mind seeing him back, he'd certainly be an upgrade on Oliviera. Plus I'd love to see who I consider to be the 2 most lethal strikers in my lifetime playing together.
R9 & Sheva would be a dream come true for me.
Posted by: amancik May 31 2007, 10:52 AM
come on man, the guy got what he deserved, a bad season for his standard, unsettle in english lifestyle, unable to win his second champions league, couldn't play in his natural position ... I think he must've realized that he made a bad decision
I wouldn't mind in fact I'd be happy to see him back, like kurts said It'd be a dream to see em' together
Posted by: dst May 31 2007, 12:06 PM
But the Crespo deal was handled via fax (Inter must have a thing for faxes, what with getting a scudetto that way). Peter Kenyon and the other Chelsea directors stayed in London.
Right now, the only Chelsea employee in Milan is Shevchenko himself.
(Personally, I don't want to see him back. He walked out on the club, kissed the Chelsea jersey, etc etc. Let him rot in London. Or Kiev.)
I agree with everything you said. But the reason I don't want him to come back is that I regard him as one a truly great player. Him coming back hat-in-hand would vanish any respect I've still got for him.
I don't think he'd ever opt to go to Inter. And Abramovic has nothing against Milan to agree a deal with the merda... but the fact that Berlusconi does not want him (his Chelski) in the G14!
Posted by: misha May 31 2007, 02:43 PM
A meeting between Chelsea and Milan to discuss Andriy Shevchenko’s future on Wednesday failed to take place, according to the Italian Press.
The Blues’ chief executive Peter Kenyon was expected in Italy to meet with Inter officials, but the club opted to send a fax to the Nerazzurri to confirm that Hernan Crespo will remain at the San Siro next term.
Milan and Chelsea officials therefore did not have the opportunity to meet and discuss Shevchenko’s future, although reports in Italy suggest that negotiations are well underway.
The striker left Milan to join Chelsea last summer in a £30m move, but struggled to cope with life in the Premiership.
The Rossoneri have reiterated over the past few months that they would welcome the 2004 European Footballer of the Year back to the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.
Shevchenko had insisted that he wanted another chance to prove himself in England, but it appears that neither Coach Jose Mourinho nor the striker seem keen to work with each other.
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is open to a Milan return for the Ukrainian, but will not accept a loan deal, as he hopes to recover most of the £30m.
In the meantime, Milan have decided to extend Ronaldo’s contract, which is set to expire in June. The Brazilian’s agent Fabiano Farah was in town on Wednesday and the new one-year deal is expected to be announced in the next few days.
Posted by: han2503 May 31 2007, 05:34 PM
Yep, I hear Moratti sleeps with his every day of the week
Posted by: HasanHasanly May 31 2007, 05:40 PM
hahahah
Posted by: Rossoneri7 May 31 2007, 06:54 PM
I agree with everything you said. But the reason I don't want him to come back is that I regard him as one a truly great player. Him coming back hat-in-hand would vanish any respect I've still got for him.
I don't think he'd ever opt to go to Inter. And Abramovic has nothing against Milan to agree a deal with the merda... but the fact that Berlusconi does not want him (his Chelski) in the G14!
That is a fact !!
Well I guess Berlusconi does get his way, some of the time
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 1 2007, 01:19 PM
If Sheva dosent come this year, i dont think he will ever come back, he will play for chelsea for a couple of years then do a beckham and go to USA
Posted by: KillerMax Jun 4 2007, 12:49 AM
Sheva is staying with the Blues.
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470020&CPID=8&clid=8&lid=&title=Sheva+vows+to+fight+on
Posted by: dst Jun 4 2007, 01:17 AM
Phew!!
That's the way to go Sheva! Keep on fighting!! I'd feel even more betrayed if he had come back to Italy scared and failed... I wish him all the luck, domestically!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 4 2007, 12:44 PM
Glade he ain't coming back .. Though the idea of R9 and S7 leading our attack does intrigue me, he is better off at London ... Cuz we need someone hungry for success; Henry is a very good candidate.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 4 2007, 12:47 PM
Glade he ain't coming back .. Though the idea of R9 and S7 leading our attack does intrigue me, he is better off at London ... Cuz we need someone hungry for success; Henry is a very good candidate.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 4 2007, 12:47 PM
Glade he ain't coming back .. Though the idea of R9 and S7 leading our attack does intrigue me, he is better off at London ... Cuz we need someone hungry for success; Henry is a very good candidate.
Posted by: dst Aug 13 2008, 06:34 PM
I miss the ****ing traitor! Milan miss him... he used to be so classy. He's the greatest forward I've ever seen play besides Ronaldo! 
PS I'm not saying I want him back.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 13 2008, 06:43 PM
My uncle had a run in with a former Milanista his name was... Andriy Shevchenko
Turns out Sheva was in New Jersey with family (his wife's probably considering she is an American) Sheva still speaks very little English. He could barely say hi. btw this happened quite a few weeks ago but i never posted (or remembered) till now
Posted by: gal_kenny Aug 13 2008, 06:46 PM
Its sad he ain't coming back..He was the most complete striker (can take free kicks, shots, dribble, score with head which henry doesn't do, and score with both legs anytime)..However, he has dipped in form..I doubt if he'll still be as dangerous as he was in milan...
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 13 2008, 07:03 PM
I don't even think if he came back he would recapture the magic he once had. That move to Chelsea ruined him, and I think irreparably. I'll pass if we had the opportunity to bring him back.
Posted by: Jako19 Aug 13 2008, 07:22 PM
I wouldnt say chelsea ruined him.. he ruined himself, or his wife did, He fit perfictly in milans squad then moved at 30 and had to change how he played a lil to fit in the squad
Posted by: misha Aug 13 2008, 07:26 PM
PS I'm not saying I want him back.
Come over to the dark side
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 13 2008, 08:49 PM
I think we are all there
Posted by: Tennie Aug 23 2008, 06:42 PM
(from the ticker on acmilan.com's italian page)
(cross posted on the news thread)
COMUNICATO UFFICIALE: SHEVA AL MILAN
23/08/2008
L'A.C.Milan comunica di aver raggiunto un accordo con l'FC Chelsea per il passaggio di Andriy Shevchenko in maglia rossonera. Il calciatore sarà domani a Milano per sottoporsi lunedì alle visite mediche.
I termini dell'accordo economico con l'FC Chelsea sono confidenziali.
[AC Milan announces having reached agreement with Chelsea FC for the transfer of Andriy Shevchenko. The player will be in Milan tomorrow to undergo a medical. The terms of the agreement are confidential.]
ADRIANO GALLIANI SU MILAN CHANNEL: "Bentornato a casa Andriy"
23/08/2008
MILANO - Adriano Galliani è intervenuto alle 19.00 in diretta su Milan Channel su Sheva: "Dopo una serie di frenetiche telefonate durate per tutta la giornata odierna, abbiamo raggiunto l'accordo con il Chelsea. Andriy torna in rossonero, domani sarà a Milano, lunedì si sottoporrà alle visite mediche, poi firmerà il contratto e da martedì sarà a disposizione di Carlo Ancelotti. Siamo riusciti a riportare a casa il giocatore che negli ultimi 50 anni ha fatto più gol con la nostra maglia. Il presidente Berlusconi ed io siamo felici, lo è anche il nostro allenatore e credo debbano esserlo anche i nostri tifosi. Credo che il Milan sia l'unico Club al mondo ad avere tre Palloni d'oro in squadra. Sì, Andriy è tornato a casa e ne sono felice. Sono un tifoso del Milan e sono molto contento. Andriy l'ho sentito 48 volte nelle ultime tre ore... I contenuti dell'accordo sono molto riservati. Entro domani sera Andriy sarà a Milano e ricomincia la sua vita da giocatore del Milan. Andriy ha sbagliato ad andar via e credo che da due anni a questa parte abbia capito che questa è la sua casa. Adesso ha fatto i suoi sacrifici economici ma a questo punto l'unica cosa che conta è che lui torna con noi".
[Adriano Galliani was interviewed on Milan channel about Sheva: 'After a series of frenetic telephone calls yesterday, we've reached agreement with Chelsea. Andriy returns in rossonero, and will be in MIlan tomorrow. Monday he'll undergo his medical after which he'll sign the contract and as of Tuesday he'll be at Carlo Ancelotti's disposition. We've been able to bring home the player who in the last 50 years has scored the most goals in our jersey. President Berlusconi and I are happy as is our coach and I believe our fans will be too. I tihkn taht Milan is the only club in the world to have 3 Golden Ball winners in its squad. Yes, Andriy's returning home and I'm happy about it. I'm a fan of MIlan and am very content. I've called him 48 times in the last 3 hours. The contents of the agreement are confidential. From tomorrow night Andriy will be in Milan and will recommence his life as a player of Milan. Andriy made a mistake leaving and I think that in the two years apart, he understood that this is his home. Now he's made economic sacrifices but the only thing that counts is that he's returned to us.]
Posted by: agenth Aug 23 2008, 06:52 PM
http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~1373689,00.html
WTFF
first shitty (I HOPE THIS IS NO NAUGHTY WORD) R10 comes
now
this !!!!!!
I am mad...
Milan is turning into a retirement home, and I#m sick of seeint hsi
Posted by: vahid Aug 23 2008, 06:53 PM
IT'S OFFICIAL
WTF?
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 07:20 PM
WTFF
first shitty (I HOPE THIS IS NO NAUGHTY WORD) R10 comes
now
this !!!!!!
I am mad...
Milan is turning into a retirement home, and I#m sick of seeint hsi
Ronaldinho is by no means old or sh * tty. He's a great player. We are no retirement home. Look at all the other young players we got this transfer season.
But, Sheva... I have no words on this one.
Posted by: agenth Aug 23 2008, 07:23 PM
But, Sheva... I have no words on this one.
No? nice olympics performance of his.
Whatever! I'm sorry to have wrote that post, because I was very mad and shocked at this news.
In other words; forever milan (even if it means supporting the alluring R10)
fyi; I was from the beginning against the R10transfer... but oh well
PS: i didnt write that R10 is old.
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 07:26 PM
Whatever! I'm sorry to have wrote that post, because I was very mad and shocked at this news.
In other words; forever milan (even if it means supporting the alluring R10)
fyi; I was from the beginning against the R10transfer... but oh well
PS: i didnt write that R10 is old.
He did respectably considering the subpar performances of the rest of the team. He did well in the 3rd place match too... getting more pace back.
What do you expect from the guy? He hasn't played competitively in a while. He's 28 years old. He's far from his peak.
Sheva is almost 32 years old...
I was reluctant about Ronaldinho. BUT... I support it now and I think he's going to be critical for our scudetto race.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2008, 07:48 PM
In Al Pacion's words: HOO-AH!
Posted by: gal_kenny Aug 23 2008, 07:50 PM
What? Sheva official..I wake up in the morning and the first thing i see is that Sheva's official...I won't accept this transfer unless a defender is bought..And whats with all the confidential s***...We needed a defender...Although it would give us more attacking option..Sheva and Ronaldinho need to get back their mojo..When they get it back..We'll be a force to reckon with...I'm very very very shocked...Although i don't forgive him for leaving us..I still welcome him back...
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 07:54 PM
I'm like you. In fact, before I read this about Sheva coming back... I saw an article saying Ancelotti said that Sheva was never close to coming back.
Posted by: gal_kenny Aug 23 2008, 07:59 PM
This is BS...Milan management can trick pple...They're very flexible..can't believe a word they say...First Galliani says they fail in landing Sheva 2 days ago and the next he's official..Can never be trusted...I hope he repays us for what he did to us..cuz that's the only way i can forgive him...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 23 2008, 08:00 PM
What the F....
I can't believe it!! I don't even know I should be happy or sad. SHEVA!!! welcome back 
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 08:01 PM
Hey, do not believe what Galliani says. He says all sorts of stuff.
Like when he said we can't compete with Man City's bid for Ronaldinho.
What matters to me is the end result and he's delivering.
I'm still split on Sheva though. Part me of is cheering, and part of me.. is shocked.
Posted by: gal_kenny Aug 23 2008, 08:04 PM
Well, i guess we sort of deserve this because we haven't made any good transfers like in the last decade..We're one good CB from the perfect summer transfers....And we can actually switch formation..from 4-3-3 to 4-4-2 to 4-3-2-1 to 4-3-1-2...
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 08:05 PM
I agree with you on that one.
We've been the biggest "mover and shaker" in the transfer season in Italy... and perhaps Europe as it stands.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 23 2008, 08:25 PM
Emotions won me over. I'm freaking out!! welcome home Andriy!! what an emotional night it is!!!
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 08:29 PM
I'll be honest. I think emotions have won me over too. It's been two years since I've seen the man play in red and black.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 23 2008, 08:32 PM
I think even those who were firmly against his return are emotional deep inside. one just can't not be. the Golden Boy's returned
Anybody thinks he will wear the armband like before (when God and Ambro are out)?
Posted by: vahid Aug 23 2008, 08:38 PM
Anybody thinks he will wear the armband like before (when God and Ambro are out)?
OMG.after his transfer to Chelsea we want to give him the armband?!I can't accept it if he wear it
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 23 2008, 08:44 PM
you're right. personally I don't have any problem with Sheva wearing the armband, but I know most people would get really pissed off if that happened.
Posted by: agenth Aug 23 2008, 08:45 PM
Anybody thinks he will wear the armband like before (when God and Ambro are out)?
lol
not even after he scores 100 goals.
besides, he will retire earlier anyway!
Posted by: gal_kenny Aug 23 2008, 08:47 PM
Anybody thinks he will wear the armband like before (when God and Ambro are out)?
He just simply won't...I'm completely against it..I hope Kaka has learnt from this...He shouldn't go to f***ing Chelsea...
Posted by: dst Aug 23 2008, 08:55 PM
Anybody thinks he will wear the armband like before (when God and Ambro are out)?
Emotional? Yeah right! Honestly, I still wish it's all just a nightmare...
WHAT? You can't be serious!
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 08:56 PM
Lets give him another chance.
Posted by: vahid Aug 23 2008, 09:03 PM
You mean give him the armband?I prefer Kaladze and Brocchi wear it but Sheva doesn't touch it!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 23 2008, 09:05 PM
WHAT? You can't be serious!
Come on dst, I know deep down you're having a strange feeling about his return.
NO I'M NOT.
If Kaka were ever to leave, it'd be Madrid. I'm sure. I think Madrid are making way for buying either Kaka or Ronaldo next summer by selling Robinho.
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 23 2008, 09:05 PM
Oh no. He's not getting that arm band I hope. That can go to Ambrosini or Pirlo... a loyal Milan player for example...
I just say we should give him another chance as a player.
Wikipedia says he got number 17.
As far as Real Madrid, buying Kaka... wishful thinking on their part. Kaka has even more reason to stay now. I think they'll try to get Ronaldo...
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 23 2008, 10:30 PM
Kaka and Sheva are very good friends, he must of been hurt when he left. We all know they developed an excellent understanding. Sheva coming home will likely solidify that friendship and as Giancarlo said, mean Kaka is even less likely to leave.
We all know what happens to players when they leave
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 23 2008, 10:37 PM
* ...In Shock... *
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 23 2008, 10:40 PM
There is a point why you can put jokes aside, and I respect everyone's opinion.
But Brocchi for Captain before Sheva....
Oh Please! Dream On Seriously!!
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 23 2008, 10:45 PM
I just say we should give him another chance as a player.
Wikipedia says he got number 17.
As far as Real Madrid, buying Kaka... wishful thinking on their part. Kaka has even more reason to stay now. I think they'll try to get Ronaldo...
I'm not saying thats its incorrect, but don't think thats for certain.
I saw it as 17 on Milan's page and on Sheva's page he is listed as 76 (which given the rest of our squad numbers selected, I think he will get 76)
Anywayz, I'm just saying. (Lets not forget, even though Wikipedia provides us with a host of information it can be edited by anyone and its accuracy can sometimes be a tad off.)
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2008, 10:48 PM
I'm just waiting to see if Kaka is Brilliant will now change back into his old name,.. 
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2008, 10:58 PM
I just say we should give him another chance as a player.
Wikipedia says he got number 17.
As far as Real Madrid, buying Kaka... wishful thinking on their part. Kaka has even more reason to stay now. I think they'll try to get Ronaldo...
Isn't 17 like a forbidden number in Italy? Because they consider it bad luck... Or is it another number I'm not sure but I thought it was 17
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 23 2008, 11:06 PM
But Brocchi for Captain before Sheva....
Oh Please! Dream On Seriously!!
Anyone should wear the armband before Sheva if you ask me.
He derves a chance as a player...not as a person.
What I was thinking. Back to the future!
Posted by: Tennie Aug 23 2008, 11:48 PM
+1 from me and the fishdoll on Shevchenko not getting anywhere near the armband.
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 24 2008, 12:47 AM
I'm not one to be superstitious but I'll ask about that of my family... I'm not too sure.
Trinking_CE, I know exactly what you mean. That's why I said "Wikipedia says"... and not "I heard"... wikipedia once had Bush as a democrat for two weeks.
Until I just signed up for an account and edited it lol.. I checked again and now it just says "TBD"... someone posted 17... but it was changed.
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 24 2008, 01:20 AM
Trinking_CE, I know exactly what you mean. That's why I said "Wikipedia says"... and not "I heard"... wikipedia once had Bush as a democrat for two weeks.
Until I just signed up for an account and edited it lol.. I checked again and now it just says "TBD"... someone posted 17... but it was changed.
Haha I see.
....
Btw...in the future you can refer to me as just Trini.
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 24 2008, 01:26 AM
....
Btw...in the future you can refer to me as just Trini.
Hahah okay cool.
Like your avatar though... I remember that episode... Homer gave Lisa a red card...
Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 24 2008, 01:47 AM
Like your avatar though... I remember that episode... Homer gave Lisa a red card...
Thanks Bro.
I actually never saw the episode
Only that particular clip on youtube.
After that I found the pic. which you see as my avatar (except R9 was wearing the Brazil colours) and I decided to make it the Milan uniform instead (took me a bit of time too considering I only used Microsoft Paint)
Posted by: dst Aug 24 2008, 03:40 AM
Oh Please!Every single second of every single minute of every single hour of every single day of the ****ing week!!!!!!!! Are you people serious? I can't believe this was even brought up!! Sheva and the armband is something impossible, it's ****ing hubris!!! We can't be seriously taking about this, WHAT THE ****??? THAT ****ING TRAITOR WILL NEVER WEAR THE ARMBAND AND HE CAN **** OFF!!! You guys should understand what wearing the armband means... really... it's not just a piece of paper and surely, ****ing traitors do not wear the armband!!
Posted by: Tennie Aug 24 2008, 04:02 AM
The fish doll awards dst a cookie for his creative use of ****. 
He also agrees wholeheartedly.
Posted by: MizNelson Aug 24 2008, 04:25 AM
You're so understated.
Nonetheless, I agree with the message couched among all the expletives.
Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Aug 24 2008, 05:01 AM
Certainly contemplating
Can't believe it though it's gonna be soo good to see him back in a Milan shirt, wish he proved to the English that he was world class but nevermind he's back!
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 24 2008, 06:50 AM
Calm down. He's back. He learned from an incredibly stupid mistake.
One last demand I have is that Sheva learns fluent Italian. He wanted to learn English in England... so he better learn Italian in Italy!
Posted by: vahid Aug 24 2008, 07:51 AM
+1
Your posts about Sheva is great!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 24 2008, 08:07 AM
I thought he was fluent in Italian... how can one not be after seven years in Italy?
Your posts about Sheva is great!
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 24 2008, 08:21 AM
Is he?
I mean based on how little English he knows from being two years in England... I assume he didn't learn Italian well either.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 24 2008, 08:51 AM
I mean based on how little English he knows from being two years in England... I assume he didn't learn Italian well either.
I think he is. he used to give his interviews in Italian in last years...
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 24 2008, 09:23 AM
I mean based on how little English he knows from being two years in England... I assume he didn't learn Italian well either.
His Italian is very good.
Posted by: Giancarlo Aug 24 2008, 09:29 AM
I guess so... I just hope he kept his skills.
Posted by: amancik Aug 24 2008, 09:44 AM
I can't wait to see him in red & back again. Blue doesn't suit him at all.
Posted by: MizNelson Aug 24 2008, 10:44 AM
Nice, our transfer market has consisted of bringing back Abbiati and Shevchenko. Maybe we'll complete the hat-trick by re-signing Laursen.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 24 2008, 11:04 AM
Not a chance.
Posted by: Tennie Aug 24 2008, 11:21 AM
Laursen is the Villa captain. Kurt would kill us in our sleep.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 24 2008, 11:46 AM
Still, Laursen IMO is much better then Kovac..
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 24 2008, 11:51 AM
Laursen, Helveg, Tomasson... 
Posted by: dst Aug 24 2008, 12:01 PM
If Sheva does well in Milan I think EPL fans will think that Serie A is "easy", isn't that right?
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