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Oct 4 2020, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 12:43 PM) Bakayoko to Napoli is almost official. Dry loan at 2M.
So... How come we missed this? Even on a dry loan, he would have been a great signing. We wanted the option to buy inserted and Chelsea were putting on a 35m price tag on him when they don't want him, he hasn't been part of their squad for 2 years now and he'd be in the last year of contract. I'm sad that we missed out on Baka, he was great for us and would have been very important to the team, but it is what it is. Rudiger on loan is the alternative to Kabak according to Di Marzio. If the negotiations for Kabak fail, we'll instantly pivot to Rudiger since we only have a day and a half left of mercato to go. I'd be okay with either, Rudiger on a dry loan for this season and then we go for Kabak again next summer if the money isn't there this summer is still a good deal
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Oct 4 2020, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 03:59 PM) #5 should have gone to the new CB. Oh well...
No idea how good this guy is. Anyone seen him play or read anything about him? Nope, just saw a few clips on YT, looks similar to Theo in the way he bombs forward, not sure how good he is defensively though, seems to be a winger almost in the way he plays
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Oct 4 2020, 07:36 PM
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#ACMilan have won their first three Serie A games to start the season without conceding a single goal for the third time in their history, after 1971-72 (under Nereo Rocco) and 1952-53 (under Mario Sperone).
Strange stat considering all the great teams we've had since then
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Oct 4 2020, 07:41 PM
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I wonder who's ultimate decision it was to leave the Napoli team back home and lose all points.
And if they lose out on CL places by a small margin, who's head would roll
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Oct 5 2020, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 01:40 PM) Well, you don't recall correctly. 35M was the asking price from Saint-Etienne. We offered much lower, and eventually the player went to Leicester who matched their request.
Same argument for Tomiyasu. Bologna ask 25M, we're not willing to go beyond 15M for him.
And if you really wanna talk about player value, then Transfermarkt, arguably the most reliable external source about player values, has Kabak valued at 29M, even more than what Schalke are asking.
I repeat, we should start increasing our bids if we want to get some decent players.
Latest rumour is that we are now offering 18M + bonuses for Kabak, with a loan + obligation to buy formula. Both parties seem to be getting closer. Here's to hoping. As it stands, it does not look like we will get Kabak, and may go for Rudiger on loan instead. Maybe. That is somewhat disappointing, but I have to accept that and hope for the best. In any case: - The initial offer for Fofana was ~15M, we offered again after we sold Paq (presumably more, though probably not 35M). So you are right about that. - While I am not going to dispute Transfermarkt, it is interesting that 29M is what Schalke initially asked (they later dropped the request to 25M, and according to some sources 20M). In other words, Transfermarkt is most likely looking at what the club is valuing their players. Worth noting that Schalke bought Kabak for ~15M last summer. The club's performance on the field has not been that great, and their finances are a mess. So the 2x increase is a tad suspect, especially considering that these days there is something going around called COVID. Anyway, we can agree to disagree :-). I am quite happy we are taking this approach rather than going at it the way Fassobelli did (or Leo, or late B&G). The money spent unwisely in past years has gotten us in deep s**t relating to FFP, and we are not going to climb out of the hole we are in unless we start operating as a responsible business. In other words, we have to find ways to win while controlling expenses. It is not as if throwing money at players has gotten us closer to CL in the last decade.
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Oct 5 2020, 05:00 AM
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If you have a chance, The Athletic has a very interesting story on Milan written by James Horncastle ("Inside AC Milan: Waking a sleeping giant"). One section is about Moncada and how he operates. QUOTE Milan brought Moncada in to set up and lead a global scouting network. [...]
The ability to assess a player’s “scope for improvement” is what Moncada looks for in his scouts. “If a 20-year-old player has a terrible game, gets a four out of 10 in the ratings, but has great potential, that’s more important to me. I like it when a scout looks at it that way and says to me: ‘Look, he didn’t have a good game today, but he’s gifted’. We keep tracking him and watch him again.”
And that’s not all.
“I don’t need a scout who only goes to games,” Moncada explains. “I need one who watches training, talks to the parents, the academy directors. It’s too easy to go see a game, write your report and be done with it. We can do that from the office. We have to have the intel — the contract situation, what’s the family like, the small details make the difference. Human relations make the difference.”
Moncada and his team follow players from under-17 level up. “In the space of two years they’re either reserves or first-team players. By that time we’ve already been watching them a couple of years. I want to know the story behind them, their background.”
Old school scouts tend to be sceptical of and in some cases hostile towards data, rolling their eyes when metrics like PPDA (passes per defensive action) and “xG throw-in” come up in conversation. But Milan’s analytics department, which is staffed by a small group of bright 20-something analysts and uses StatsBomb data, has the optimum level of synergy with Moncada while working independently of each other to avoid biases.
“In the end we have a comprehensive report with all the info and the statistics,” Moncada says.
The Frenchman then reports to Maldini and shares his expertise with the technical committee as they go through potential targets.
“All of these things; the clear vision, the clear strategy, the clear philosophy backed by strong processes give us confidence in the decisions we make collaboratively and collectively with Paolo Maldini as the reference point,” Gazidis explains.
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Oct 5 2020, 05:16 AM
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Laxalt to Celtic on loan QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 01:43 PM) Bakayoko to Napoli is almost official. Dry loan at 2M.
So... How come we missed this? Even on a dry loan, he would have been a great signing. More like GBP 4.5M, according to some sources. QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 4 2020, 03:43 PM) We wanted the option to buy inserted and Chelsea were putting on a 35m price tag on him when they don't want him, he hasn't been part of their squad for 2 years now and he'd be in the last year of contract. I'm sad that we missed out on Baka, he was great for us and would have been very important to the team, but it is what it is. I would have liked to see Baka back with Milan, he did well with us for a few months and we need a vice-Kessie. OTOH, other than those few months, his performance has not been all that great. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 03:55 PM) Di Marzio saying now our offer to Schalke is 12M +3M bonuses. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Other sources claim the offer was higher. Di Marzio (not the best source these days for Milan transfer news) may be going by the initial offer.
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Oct 5 2020, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 4 2020, 08:36 PM) #ACMilan have won their first three Serie A games to start the season without conceding a single goal for the third time in their history, after 1971-72 (under Nereo Rocco) and 1952-53 (under Mario Sperone).
Strange stat considering all the great teams we've had since then We had three relatively easy games, even if you consider the squad was tired because of EL :-) The real test is against Inter after the break. Hoping to see Zlatan and Roma back by then. OTOH, the games we had are the kind of games where we would drop points in past years. Also, Inter has not impressed me in any of the games I have seen. Sure, they have a great team ... on paper. They also struggled against Fiorentina and should have won against Lazio (given how the game went).
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