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Posted by: m1ke Aug 2 2005, 10:42 PM

Whilst I'm sure Maldini has got a few seasons left in him, who would you like to see as the next captain of Milan?

I voted for Gattuso because I think he'd be able to motivate the players on the pitch through his persistence and determination.

Posted by: Mario Aug 3 2005, 11:52 AM

No one would ever replace IL CAPITANO...but I Share M1ke opinion that Gattuso is the biggest motivator in the team !

Posted by: amancik Aug 3 2005, 11:58 AM

I go for Nesta!!!

Posted by: yourfavoritemuse Aug 3 2005, 12:59 PM

I'm a bit torn between Nesta and Gattuso, but I'm going to say Nesta because the last time Rino was wearing the armband, he managed to get himself sent off! laugh.gif

Posted by: may83 Aug 5 2005, 12:27 AM

Gattuso all the way, he such a terrier just the sort of person Milan need to hype the team and raise thier moral, he would be an exellent captain.

king.gif Gattuso for Captain lol biggrin.gif

Posted by: amancik Aug 5 2005, 09:34 AM

one thing I like about Gattuso is ... he's persistent and aggressive ... well I won't be dissapointed if he becomes the captain ...

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Aug 5 2005, 12:35 PM

I'm sure Gattuso will become Milan's captain. Ok he hasn't got the technical ability like some other Milan's players, but he surely is the biggest character and motivator. He would be a captain similar to Manchester United's Roy Keane.

Posted by: DvZ Aug 5 2005, 03:14 PM

i'm still not sure who i want to be Milan next captain... coz i grew up admiring IL Capitano.. and somehow, everyone is not up to that standard that he possesed.

i like ambrosini when he;s wearing the armband [PSV] and he certainly less tempered compare to GAttuso [just dont like hot-headed person] but, he's not Ancelotti's first-eleven.

Posted by: DugiNesta Aug 16 2005, 12:29 PM

I go for Nesta Becuse he was Captain in Lazio



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Posted by: Boban Aug 16 2005, 12:35 PM

yeah i think next would go captian aswell theres noone there who has got real experiance he would be the only real candidate

Posted by: gile84 Aug 17 2005, 12:44 PM

I think will be Ambro...

Posted by: sheva Aug 17 2005, 02:22 PM

I think sheva has the quality that a milan captain needs to have!
great player...
captain of his national team..
and rarely loses his temper!

Posted by: giegie Aug 17 2005, 02:38 PM

Guttuso the power man

Posted by: may83 Aug 17 2005, 11:56 PM

king.gif Gattuso! Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso!Gattuso! king.gif

without a doubt! devil.gif

Posted by: The Persian Aug 18 2005, 09:46 AM

gattuso MOS DEF!

Posted by: kakaman Aug 18 2005, 02:40 PM

Gattuso!!!

Posted by: amancik Aug 19 2005, 08:53 AM

anyway, mike ... if Paolo Maldini retires, are you going to put him on the milan legend section?

Appearances : 766 (friendly games not included)
Goals : 32

Posted by: m1ke Aug 19 2005, 10:53 AM

QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 19 2005, 08:53 AM)
anyway, mike ... if Paolo Maldini retires, are you going to put him on the milan legend section?

Appearances : 766 (friendly games not included)
Goals : 32

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Of course devil.gif

Posted by: Ballet Aug 19 2005, 12:00 PM

Gattuso

Posted by: Nova Aug 19 2005, 02:10 PM

Well , perhaps lot's of you will dissagree , but to me the next Milan captain should be Italian ... unsure.gif as much as sheva did for Milan , he represents Ukraine . A player that represents both Milan and the Italian national team is just something else ... But that's my humble opinion smile.gif

Posted by: may83 Aug 20 2005, 12:04 AM

Well there you go yet another reason for the great Gattuso to represent milan as our new cap'in! king.gif

Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2005, 01:51 PM

Rino plays not good, he can be replace easily in our first-eleven. Maybe in this season, he'll lose his position to Max. Don't you remember the match between Milan and PSV? Rino was not chosen as our captain.

Posted by: Smoje Aug 22 2005, 01:58 PM

My vote is for Pirlo, Gattuso is a great players that stays in Milan for many years, but a captain needs to stay calm in the worst moments, and Gattuso is very nervous.

Pirlo is calm and clear, his problem is that needs to put the team into his shoulder.

Ambrosini is not a regular first team football, so he can be the second or third captain.

Shevchenko is not a italian player, but it's a possibility too...

Pirlo or Gattuso in my opinion, but I prefer Pirlo.

Posted by: Nova Aug 22 2005, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Smoje @ Aug 22 2005, 02:58 PM)
My vote is for Pirlo, Gattuso is a great players that stays in Milan for many years, but a captain needs to stay calm in the worst moments, and Gattuso is very nervous.

Pirlo is calm and clear, his problem is that needs to put the team into his shoulder.

Ambrosini is not a regular first team football, so he can be the second or third captain.

Shevchenko is not a italian player, but it's a possibility too...

Pirlo or Gattuso in my opinion, but I prefer Pirlo.
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Yep , couldn't have said it better !! Alltough I wouldn't mind Gattuso as our capitano

Posted by: Nova Aug 22 2005, 03:39 PM

QUOTE (may83 @ Aug 20 2005, 01:04 AM)
Well there you go yet another reason for the great Gattuso to represent milan as our new cap'in!  king.gif
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smile.gif True ! It's a race between him and Pirlo devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: yourfavoritemuse Aug 22 2005, 10:48 PM

Hmm...looks to be tied now between Shevchenko and Gattuso. Gattuso is getting the most discussion so far, but what about Sheva? Don't vote & run -- say something!! Why Sheva? happy.gif

Posted by: may83 Aug 23 2005, 05:50 PM

I personally think people are voting for shev beacuse he is like the face of milan, when you say AC Milan you hear shev, you can ask anyone to name a player from AC Milan they will9 times out of 10 say Shev, its not a bad thing, people love him, he is an amazing player which is why I think people are voting for him, but I am still sticking with Gattuso, the team need someone with some flare, a little attitude and a real go get approach, and he has all that and more!

VOTE GATTUSO!!! devil.gif

Posted by: YoungGun Aug 24 2005, 05:30 PM

tks may83!

Posted by: may83 Aug 25 2005, 03:48 PM

QUOTE (YoungGun @ Aug 24 2005, 06:30 PM)
tks may83!
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My pleasure, and its Lucy biggrin.gif

Posted by: MS_PAINT Aug 26 2005, 01:23 AM

gattuso
because captain must be the men how can motivate a rest of team, man how can lead team
and he is perfect man for that

after gattuso, sheva , then nesta
prilo is great player but he is not born to be leader

Posted by: The Princess is preity Sep 27 2005, 02:25 PM

Gattuso

Posted by: shoryuken Sep 27 2005, 09:57 PM

Ambrosini or Pirlo cool.gif

Posted by: Portikins Sep 27 2005, 10:11 PM

Rhino. biggrin.gif

Posted by: amancik Sep 28 2005, 05:58 PM

I've changed my mind ... ambrosini now!!!

Posted by: shaimaa Oct 9 2005, 05:00 PM

hi every one biggrin.gif ;


i go for alessandro nesta because he was captain in lazio roma and also italian national team before and he s really a perfect defender and one of the best players in europe . i really like and appreciate his way in football .

shaimaa

Posted by: DvZ Oct 9 2005, 06:41 PM

QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 29 2005, 03:58 AM)
I've changed my mind ... ambrosini now!!!
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what made you changed ur mind?

Posted by: xudong Oct 9 2005, 10:26 PM

This is a hot topic I see. wink.gif

I wish Maldini another 5 good years as our captain. If he decides to take it easy, I would like to see one of the followings to be our next captain. The first one on my list is Ambrosini, then Nesta, Sheva, Kaka.

Posted by: ahfive Oct 10 2005, 10:50 PM

nesta,i think he has the shadow of maldini king.gif

Posted by: amancik Oct 15 2005, 01:55 AM

QUOTE (DvZ @ Oct 9 2005, 07:41 PM)
what made you changed ur mind?
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the characteristics of ambrosini ... thats all

Posted by: ToNTZa Oct 15 2005, 09:33 PM

Alessandro Nesta. He's one of the best defenders in the Europe and he don't make many mistakes. cool.gif

Posted by: AC_Milan>* Oct 16 2005, 01:15 AM

QUOTE (ToNTZa @ Oct 15 2005, 05:33 PM)
Alessandro Nesta. He's one of the best defenders in the Europe and he don't make many mistakes. cool.gif
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That's why I voted for him. biggrin.gif

Posted by: GunnarNordahl Oct 22 2005, 06:23 AM

Alessandro Nesta!


Seedorf in this poll? biggrin.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Oct 22 2005, 10:33 AM

I voted Sheva king.gif the perfect choice IMO keeps his cool at all times, always acts like the true proffessional that he is, leads from the front and is a true Milanista as well! devilsmiley.gif

I think there is an unwritten rule in Italian football that the captaincy automatically goes to the longest serving player and I think they also prefer Italians as captains so that is why Rino or Ambro are captains.

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 22 2005, 10:23 PM

Why do defenders seem to automatically get the nod for captaincy these days?

What about players like Dida & Sheva for the role?

Posted by: dudernahata Oct 23 2005, 10:07 PM

it will most likely go to nesta, i would like to see it go to sheva. he has been with milan since 1999 and will be for years to come. he has a contract until 2010 and who says he wont renew it.nesta might be the best choice for captain but isnt he getting ready to hang up the boots? we dont want a captain for only 2-3 years

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 23 2005, 10:38 PM

QUOTE (dudernahata @ Oct 23 2005, 10:07 PM)
it will most likely go to nesta, i would like to see it go to sheva. he has been with milan since 1999 and will be for years to come. he has a contract until 2010 and who says he wont renew it.nesta might be the best choice for captain but isnt he getting ready to hang up the boots? we dont want a captain for only 2-3 years
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That is true, a younger captain would be better but who?

Posted by: Brian Birkin Oct 24 2005, 05:28 PM

I am gonna say Sheva. Maybe i am a bit partic. Cause i fancy him. wink.gif But hey, could be worse, could be simic laugh.gif

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 24 2005, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Brian Birkin @ Oct 24 2005, 05:28 PM)
I am gonna say Sheva. Maybe i am a bit partic. Cause i fancy him. wink.gif  But hey, could be worse, could be simic laugh.gif
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Sheva would not be a bad choice, it would be really good if he got the armband

Posted by: xudong Oct 26 2005, 02:25 AM

Rino seems to be picking up his passion and some skills. tongue.gif although some people claimed that he wasn't aiming at the goal when he scored. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

well, back to topic. I say that P. Maldini still hasn't shown any sign of leaving us. smile.gif Why not just hang in for a few more years, say, 10. tongue.gif, and then C. Maldini takes over. king.gif

biggrin.gif wink.gif

Posted by: milan00047 Oct 26 2005, 08:34 AM

QUOTE (amancik @ Aug 5 2005, 03:04 PM)
one thing I like about Gattuso is ... he's persistent and aggressive ... well I won't be dissapointed if he becomes the captain ...
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he was one of the reasons why we lost to liverpool last year
his tackle nearly earned him a red card
i think it should be seedorf
seedorf has won the Champions league 4(i don't know it exactly) times with different teams:Ajax,Milan, Real madrid

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 26 2005, 03:11 PM

QUOTE (milan00047 @ Oct 26 2005, 08:34 AM)
i think it should be seedorf
seedorf has won the Champions league 4(i don't know it exactly) times with different teams:Ajax,Milan, Real madrid
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Seedorf? He's doing better this season but last season, how bad was he?

Serginho was a lot better and I never understood why he wasn't picked for the CL Final from the start unsure.gif

Posted by: arpanmilan Oct 26 2005, 05:51 PM

it has 2 be gattuso 4 the passion he brings in the game when he plays.

Posted by: may83 Oct 26 2005, 05:52 PM

Look at Gattuso steaming ahead! I have said it should be him from the begining and I am sticking too it! What a goal for him the other night, 1st one in the San Siro for 7 years! The man is a legend and can always be counted on for pulling something out the hat when you least expect it.
And as for him losing the game against Liverpool for us, thats rubbish! The whole team lost it for us, we just didnt seem to want it in the 2nd half and then when Shev missed the last penalty. im sorry but as a whole the team lost it, they all played their part you cant blame one palyer!! sad.gif

Posted by: xudong Oct 26 2005, 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Sheva Is Brilliant 05 @ Oct 26 2005, 09:11 AM)
Seedorf? He's doing better this season but last season, how bad was he?

Serginho was a lot better and I never understood why he wasn't picked for the CL Final from the start unsure.gif
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Serginho is always more effective when he starts from the bench. I guess that's because his pace is more lethal when the opponents are tired. biggrin.gif

Posted by: xudong Oct 26 2005, 05:58 PM

QUOTE (milan00047 @ Oct 26 2005, 02:34 AM)
he was one of the reasons why we lost to liverpool last year
his tackle nearly earned him a red card
i think it should be seedorf
seedorf has won the Champions league 4(i don't know it exactly) times with different teams:Ajax,Milan, Real madrid
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Gattuso was responsible for that one, I agree, but that coward Gerrard probably just faked it anyway. A red card and a penalty for a dive? imagine that.

seedorf doesn't have the quality of being a captain. at least i don't see it in him. imagine a lazy guy walking on the pitch with armband while all the other guys are sweating like pigs. smile.gif when they look around trying to find their captain, "where is our captain?" "right here, dude, I am having an ice cream." biggrin.gif No offense, hehe. wink.gif

Seedorf has won three times, one with each team. 95, 98, 03.

Gattuso is not my first choice to be captain, heck, he is not even top three in my dictionary, but Seedorf may be the last person I would want to see with captain armband. smile.gif

Posted by: milan00047 Oct 27 2005, 10:32 AM

QUOTE (xudong @ Oct 26 2005, 11:28 PM)
Gattuso was responsible for that one, I agree, but that coward Gerrard probably just faked it anyway.  A red card and a penalty for a dive? imagine that.

seedorf doesn't have the quality of being a captain. at least i don't see it in him. imagine a lazy guy walking on the pitch with armband while all the other guys are sweating like pigs. :) when they look around trying to find their captain, "where is our captain?" "right here, dude, I am having an ice cream." :D No offense, hehe. ;)

Seedorf has won three times, one with each team. 95, 98, 03.

Gattuso is not my first choice to be captain, heck, he is not even top three in my dictionary, but Seedorf may be the last person I would want to see with captain armband. :)
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OK You guys want Rino Eh?
Let's see

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:02 PM

QUOTE (xudong @ Oct 26 2005, 05:54 PM)
Serginho is always more effective when he starts from the bench. I guess that's because his pace is more lethal when the opponents are tired. biggrin.gif
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Last year Serginho was far better than Seedorf when he started not just coming on off the bench.

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (milan00047 @ Oct 27 2005, 10:32 AM)
OK You guys want Rino Eh?
Let's see
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Well after what passion he showed tonight I think it has strengthened people's case, he was so determined to succeed.

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Oct 29 2005, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (xudong @ Oct 26 2005, 05:58 PM)
Gattuso is not my first choice to be captain, heck, he is not even top three in my dictionary, but Seedorf may be the last person I would want to see with captain armband. smile.gif
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Who would be your choice?

Posted by: mKei Dec 26 2005, 06:33 AM

Gattuso is way to agressive to be captain.

Posted by: dudernahata Dec 26 2005, 07:40 AM

what about pirlo or nesta? i think they both have the potential to become captains.
i would want to see sheva but it seems to be an italian only thig for captains at milan

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Dec 26 2005, 03:15 PM

QUOTE (dudernahata @ Dec 26 2005, 06:40 AM)
i would want to see sheva but it seems to be an italian only thig for captains at milan
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Although Sheva has recently had the captains armband with the abscence of Maldini.

Posted by: BoomAM Dec 26 2005, 03:40 PM

As much as i like Shevchenko, strikers do not make good captains. He can hardly yell at the defence to get their act together if he's on the other side of the pitch can he?

Posted by: Rivaldo Dec 26 2005, 03:45 PM

I think Maks(Ambro) will be

Posted by: jbryant1 Dec 27 2005, 04:27 AM

I say Scheva or Nesta. They're both the best at what they do and have proved their greatness at Milan.

Posted by: Warchant Dec 27 2005, 06:16 AM

i think sheva would make a great captain...just look how he's led the team in the last couple of matches

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jun 10 2006, 05:05 PM

Don't think I missed out on any other potentials to Captain our Milan...

I went for Nesta, cz Gattuso is tempermental and I think Nesta organizes the backline just well

Posted by: dst Jun 10 2006, 05:56 PM

Nesta for me too yes!!! devil.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jun 10 2006, 07:24 PM

I think if Gattuso was made captain his yellow cards would drop, the same thing happened to Vieira

Gattuso is our heart and soul i think he should be captain

Posted by: Portikins Jun 10 2006, 10:32 PM

Rino.

Without a doubt.

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 10 2006, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (Portugal @ Jun 10 2006, 03:32 PM)
Rino.

Without a doubt.
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Yep. king.gif

Posted by: Il Capitano Jun 10 2006, 11:30 PM

I would say Gattuso a long time ago but when he said that he thought about leaving and liked to end his career else were I lost respect for him.
Sow my vote is for Pirlo.

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 11 2006, 12:04 AM

QUOTE (Il Capitano @ Jun 10 2006, 04:30 PM)
I would say Gattuso a long time ago but when he said that he thought about leaving and liked to end his career else were I lost respect for him.
Sow my vote is for Pirlo.
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Where & when did he say that? ohmy.gif

Posted by: naurif Jun 11 2006, 12:10 AM

nesta for me too.

if a midfield player better than rino comes, he might be replaced. n there is no one on earth who can knock nesta out of the milan first 11 devil.gif

Posted by: dst Jun 11 2006, 01:34 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 11 2006, 02:04 AM)
Where & when did he say that? ohmy.gif
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last summer!he'd said he wanted to go to Man U but Galliani appears to have persuaded him to stay!!

Posted by: YoungGun Jun 11 2006, 03:37 AM

In my opinion, Nesta is the best choice although I don't like him most.

And I think you should remove Kaka, Kaladze and Seedorf out of this list because Milan wants an Italian captain.

Posted by: Warchant Jun 11 2006, 05:08 AM

nesta...definately

but also...what if buffon came to milan?

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 11 2006, 06:40 AM

QUOTE (Warchant @ Jun 10 2006, 10:08 PM)
but also...what if buffon came to milan?
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What if?

Posted by: KillerMax Jun 11 2006, 06:42 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jun 10 2006, 06:34 PM)
last summer!he'd said he wanted to go to Man U but Galliani appears to have persuaded him to stay!!
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Hmm... last time he talked about his contract, he said he will finish his career here...

Posted by: Kaka Is Brilliant Jun 11 2006, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 11 2006, 05:42 AM)
Hmm... last time he talked about his contract, he said he will finish his career here...
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Was definetely mentioned as dst says.

I would say Nesta.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jun 11 2006, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jun 11 2006, 06:42 AM)
Hmm... last time he talked about his contract, he said he will finish his career here...
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Last time I heard someone speaking this...you know what happened?? mad.gif

Posted by: monsterzZz Jul 12 2006, 08:06 PM

sorry about the double post mad.gif

Posted by: monsterzZz Jul 12 2006, 08:06 PM

Nesta smile.gif

Posted by: krzyskaka Jul 12 2006, 08:50 PM

nesta

Posted by: han2503 Jul 12 2006, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (krzyskaka @ Jul 12 2006, 07:50 PM)
nesta
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I don't think Nesta is a good idea he is a Lazio player at heart and their is no doubt that he will return their to retire. I would like to see Gattuso as captain, sure sometimes he has a short temper and can be a bit distructive but I think if the responsability was put upon him he would definately step up to the plate.

Plus I would like to have a captain that would be loyal to his club and Gattuso has said over and over again that he would play for Milan even in serie B and I quote him as saying "I would even play for Milan in serie B or even in hell" I know thats a bit extatic but hey thats Rino for you and thats why we love him.

If we do get relegated next season, the only players from our current team would be Gila, Rino, Inzaghi I think will stay, maybe Kaladze, Maldini and Costacurta. I can't hink of anyone else from our current team that would stay with us if we are in fact relegated.

Edit: And I forgot Ambrosini, but he is injured for 3 quarters of the season so I don't know if that's a good idea to make him captain, but I'm pretty sure he would stay with us if we get relegated

Posted by: maldini03 Jul 12 2006, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 12 2006, 12:26 PM)
I don't think Nesta is a good idea he is a Lazio player at heart and their is no doubt that he will return their to retire. I would like to see Gattuso as captain, sure sometimes he has a short temper and can be a bit distructive but I think if the responsability was put upon him he would definately step up to the plate.

Plus I would like to have a captain that would be loyal to his club and Gattuso has said over and over again that he would play for Milan even in serie B and I quote him as saying "I would even play for Milan in serie B or even in hell" I know thats a bit extatic but hey thats Rino for you and thats why we love him.

If we do get relegated next season, the only players from our current team would be Gila, Rino, Inzaghi I think will stay, maybe Kaladze, Maldini and Costacurta. I can't hink of anyone else from our current team that would stay with us if we are in fact relegated.

Edit: And I forgot Ambrosini, but he is injured for 3 quarters of the season so I don't know if that's a good idea to make him captain, but I'm pretty sure he would stay with us if we get relegated
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Wow u are right but do u think pirlo would stay and if not where would he go.
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Posted by: han2503 Jul 12 2006, 11:36 PM

QUOTE (maldini03 @ Jul 12 2006, 09:32 PM)
Wow u are right but do u think pirlo would stay and if not where would he go.
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Pirlo would definaltely leave.

He has already hinted at Real

Posted by: dudernahata Jul 12 2006, 11:41 PM

it would be nice to have a defender as the captain though. but gattuso seems like the perfect choice

Posted by: dst Jul 13 2006, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 12 2006, 11:26 PM)
I don't think Nesta is a good idea he is a Lazio player at heart and their is no doubt that he will return their to retire.
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I've been thinking about that lately ... I'm not so sure he'll go back to play for Lazio cause nobody likes Lolito ... And if we give him the captain's armbrand then he may stay with us for sure devil.gif


... king.gif

Posted by: milanista1899 Jul 15 2006, 03:02 AM

QUOTE (dudernahata @ Jul 12 2006, 11:41 PM)
it would be nice to have a defender as the captain though. but gattuso seems like the perfect choice
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Totally agree - RINO!! He's not going anywhere, he said he'd even stay if we were relegated and that hasn't happened! biggrin.gif devilsmiley.gif There's Max, he's been here since '95! but he doesn't get into the team enough. Then Pippo, but don't like the idea of a striker being Captain.

Posted by: misha Jul 15 2006, 04:32 AM

Rino deserves it the most.

Posted by: milan00047 Jul 15 2006, 05:31 AM

Rino is A GRRRRRREEEEEAAAAAATTTTTTT Motivator.
Even though I voted for Nesta i think he should be it.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Jul 15 2006, 10:32 AM

Gattuso is a great player, no doubt about that. but come on... do you really think he deserves to be CAPTAIN of Milan after the great Paolo Maldini?! doesn't he lack in personality? of being a club like Milan's leader?
I have no doubt that if Kaka doesn't leave us for Real Madrid, he could be perfect for being captain... in the next couple of years.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 15 2006, 10:59 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 13 2006, 10:05 AM)
I've been thinking about that lately ... I'm not so sure he'll go back to play for Lazio cause nobody likes Lolito ... And if we give him the captain's armbrand then he may stay with us for sure  devil.gif
... king.gif
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Good thinking,...very good. You are right. To be a Captain takes responsability, something that Rino does not allways have. If a conflict brakes out, its the Captain who must calm down the players and act racional, talk to the ref without anger...is Rino capable of such things? I think no! So it the new captain should be Nesta, or we have some others like Pirlo, Ambro, Kaka even Kaladze (please no!)... cool.gif

Posted by: dst Jul 15 2006, 11:56 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 15 2006, 12:32 PM)
Gattuso is a great player, no doubt about that. but come on... do you really think he deserves to be CAPTAIN of Milan after the great Paolo Maldini?! doesn't he lack in personality? of being a club like Milan's leader?
I have no doubt that if Kaka doesn't leave us for Real Madrid, he could be perfect for being captain... in the next couple of years.
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Kaka??? No!!! I like him a lot as a player (he's actually my favourite one right now) but since he talked about leaving even before the verdict he kinda has disgusted me!!!

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 15 2006, 12:59 PM)
Good thinking,...very good. You are right. To be a Captain takes responsability, something that Rino does not allways have. If a conflict brakes out, its the Captain who must calm down the players and act racional, talk to the ref without anger...is Rino capable of such things? I think no! So it the new captain should be Nesta, or we have some others like Pirlo, Ambro, Kaka even Kaladze (please no!)... cool.gif
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Tottaly right - you saved me from typing wink.gif

Posted by: milan00047 Jul 19 2006, 05:16 AM

Hey Why Not Buffon or Cannavaaro?

Posted by: dudernahata Jul 19 2006, 05:22 AM

QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jul 18 2006, 09:16 PM)
Hey Why Not Buffon or Cannavaaro?
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usually players dont just come in and become the captains of a team rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jul 19 2006, 02:46 PM

I alreay voted for Nesta .. But the way it seems, Gattuso is second in line after Maldini.. Maybe we'll know this season who Maldini's successor is devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: han2503 Jul 19 2006, 09:48 PM

QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jul 19 2006, 04:16 AM)
Hey Why Not Buffon or Cannavaaro?
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Buffon and Cannavaro as our captains???!!!!

First of all they have to come to Milan and secondly I wouldn't want someone new regardless of how good they are to be our captain

Posted by: milan00047 Jul 20 2006, 05:31 AM

Hey hey jus suggesting!
I want Gattu in as Captain

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 4 2006, 04:16 PM

I've voted for Nesta king.gif .Pirlo would be my second choice and Gattuso third.Why third?because the captain is the one who sets an example to his players,yes he is a great motivator but his fouls are a great let off ( CL Final against Liverpool ) sad.gif . eventhough i don't want Kaka as captain,I do have to say that NO he did not say anything about leaving,he had actually renewed his contract until 2011 to close any cahnces of leaving the club ( would be very costly for the buyer ).Ofcourse Ambrosini would have not left he club if we had got relegated ! cause no one would want to sign him.lol. tongue.gif Plus he should be removed from the poll,becoming captain is just a completely different story;he first has to prove he can be in the starting eleven of the DEVILS. devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: han2503 Aug 4 2006, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (PaOlo MalDiNi @ Aug 4 2006, 03:16 PM)
I've voted for Nesta king.gif .Pirlo would be my second choice and Gattuso third.Why third?because the captain is the one who sets an example to his players,yes he is a great motivator but his fouls are a great let off ( CL Final against Liverpool ) sad.gif . eventhough i don't want Kaka as captain,I do have to say that NO he did not say anything about leaving,he had actually renewed his contract ill 2011 to close any cahnces of leaving the club ( would be very costly for the buyer ).Ofcourse Ambrosini would have not left he club if we had got relegated ! cause no one would want to sign him.lol. tongue.gif Plus he should be removed from the poll,becoming captain is just a completely different story;he first has to prove he can be in the starting eleven of the DEVILS.  devilsmiley.gif
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If you are talking about the penalty Liverpool got, that was a dive by Gerrard, Rino barely touched him there is footage about it on youtube I'll try to find it later

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 4 2006, 04:27 PM

Dont worry I know it was a dive but why create that benefit of doubt!!! make clear tackles and especially not from behind.I konw it wasn't a foul that bi**h clearly dived but hey there are many other fouls which he has made in some matches where he just simply doesn't control himself.Dont worry mate,Gattuso is Maldinis succesor for a fact,first they had decided that it would be him but then Shevchenko somehow got an edge over him.But now since sheva is gone,it is going to be Gattuso but I would still prefer Nesta king.gif .

Posted by: han2503 Aug 4 2006, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (PaOlo MalDiNi @ Aug 4 2006, 03:27 PM)
dont worry I know it was a dive but why create that benefit of doubt!!! make clear tackles and especially not from behind.I konw it wasn't a foul that bi**h clearly dived but hey there are many other fouls which he has made in some matches where he just simply doesn't control himself.Dont worry mate,Gattuso is Maldinis succesor for a fact,first they had decided that it would be him but then Shevchenko somehow got an edge over him.But now since sheva is gone,it is without any doubt Gattuso but I would still prefer Nesta ( miracles do happen . lol) .
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Even though Nesta would make a great captain he is still a Lazio player at heart, I would much rather have Rino, I know he is way too ove accentric sometimes, but I think if he is givent he responsabilty of the captain I think Rino will step up to that challenge. I'm sure he would make a great captain (he's learned from the best already wink.gif )

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 4 2006, 05:01 PM

Im not trying to spark a quarrel here cool.gif but how can you guarantee that Gattuso might not want to end his career where he started it, Celtic.They are the source for what he is nutoriously konwn for. lol. devil.gif . As someone mentioned before, if Nesta is given the Captains armband he will dedicate his future to Milan, just like Torres has ( It worked on him otherwise why would a plyer like him want to stay in Atletico Madrid huh.gif ).
Well hey let's just all hope for the best of Milan.You never know mabye making Amorouso the captain of Milan is the way to success in all competetions. lol . tongue.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 4 2006, 06:00 PM

QUOTE (PaOlo MalDiNi @ Aug 4 2006, 06:01 PM)
Im not trying to spark a quarrel here  cool.gif but how can you guarantee that Gattuso might not want to end his career where he started it, Celtic.They are the source for what he is nutoriously konwn for. lol.  devil.gif . As someone mentioned before, if Nesta is given the Captains armband he will dedicate his future to Milan, just like Torres has ( It worked on him otherwise why would a plyer like him want to stay in Atletico Madrid  huh.gif  ).
Well hey let's just all hope for the best of Milan.You never know mabye making Amorouso the captain of Milan is the way to success in all competetions. lol . tongue.gif
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Gattuso started his career at Perugia and then he played one year at Rangers. You cannot compare between player thar grew up and played his entire career for Lazio untill he came to Milan ,and player that identified with Milan

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2006, 07:24 PM

Have to disagree with you on one count Mishale. True Rino played one year with Rangers...but that one year was enough for him to declare the manager there as his second father wasn't it? Or have I got all my facts screwed up??

I'm voting for Pirlo coz I'm such a huge fan...look I know we can say that he might have left if we were relegated, but then wasn't Nesta also linked to a host of other clubs.

IMO football has changed a lot...nowadays all players under the age of 30 want to be where the action and the money is...maybe coz careers have shortened a lot.

I voted for Pirlo coz he's the calmest of the lot. Simply because of the way he play it's easy for the team to rally around him. He's calm, I've yet to see him lose his temper, something I've seen even Sandro do and Rino do often...so my vote is for Pirlo then Nesta then Rino.

If were to award it to Clarence, it's just a reward for sticking with us and not coz of any special ability. But I still like him...for his singing if nothing else wink.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 4 2006, 08:22 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 4 2006, 08:24 PM)
Have to disagree with you on one count Mishale. True Rino played one year with Rangers...but that one year was enough for him to declare the manager there as his second father wasn't it? Or have I got all my facts screwed up??
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Yes he said that about their manager then: Walter Smith , but not about their team

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2006, 08:26 PM

Well what I mean..he's a tempestous dude(I think i spelt it wrong tongue.gif)

I mean if Ac Milan were the X-Men...Rino would be Wolverine...a very key component but maybe not the ideal person to be a leader. But most definitely a senior player whom the manager and Captain should consult

Posted by: misha Aug 4 2006, 08:45 PM

Yes he is tempestuous ,but there are all kind of leaders. He is playing with his heart and giving his all for the team.I think if there is deserve in football then Rino should be captain

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2006, 09:00 PM

Playing with heart is something I'm yet to see a Milan player not do smile.gif That's why it's my club...maybe Rino plays with his heart on his sleeve so it's obvious to us...and he's a very lovable chap I agree....but then I'm sure each one of the players give it their all. Can we honestly say Sandro or Pirlo is not trying enough...they have bad matches sure....but they never go on field saying ..."Ok this match I'll give a little less than 100%"

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 4 2006, 10:40 PM

Sorry about the Celtic and Rangers mix-up and thanks for correcting me !! but that doesn't change anything hes still not the player with the qualities of a captain.Sometimes you can see him do very cheap things on the field,what he did to Schalke04's no.10 ( forgot his name ) in the end of our last group stages match against them when we had won was just sad sad.gif .Captains don't act like he did.He's done such things many times.Plus he can't control himself and a team cannot afford to lose their captain in every match just because he can't control his anger !!! btw has Nesta ever said that he wants to retire in Lazio ?? btw Inter vs Ajax just finished one all,beautiful goal by Sneidjer he's a great player !!! Stam was playin as captain king.gif !!!

Posted by: misha Aug 5 2006, 12:05 AM

I think with a captain responsibility he won't do things like he did with Paulsen. IMO he will be a great captain

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 5 2006, 12:25 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Aug 5 2006, 12:05 AM)
I think with a captain responsibility he won't do things like he did with Paulsen. IMO he will be a great captain
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I think what he did to Pulsen was great. That b@stard desreved it for what doing to Ricky... and for scoring laugh.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Aug 5 2006, 12:38 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 4 2006, 11:25 PM)
I think what he did to Pulsen was great. That b@stard desreved it for what doing to Ricky... and for scoring laugh.gif
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Come on...Poulsen is not the devil himself...
What gattuso did was very stupid in fact. I'd still like to see nesta doing the job, I don't care if he's a Lazio player at heart. During the last 25 years we had captains who were above anything else Milanista in Baresi and Maldini. You can't compare anyone to these two.
And let's face it, Gattuso will most surely do something stupid again, and he's definetely not the guy to calm down other players biggrin.gif
Ricky is too young.
And Pirlo in an Interesti at heart, I'd rather see a Lazio hearted captain ( no offense against Pirlo he's great).
The only ones left that really could do the job are Pippo and Dida. And Pippo is often injured and might spend some time on the bench next year if Ibra joins us...
So, I hope it'll be Nesta.

Posted by: Costacurta Aug 5 2006, 01:45 AM

The last time a poll of this nature arose I voted for Nesta.

However, I have since decided that, tho a great defender, I am not sure if he would be a great cpatian, whether he is a motivator or not.

However, i do not doubt Gattuso's willingness to be vocal and passionate and can see him urgin the team on more, and hs tireless nature on the picture givers the impression of utter dedication. Hence Gattuso.

But only, once Maldini and Costacurta retire.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 5 2006, 02:40 AM

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Im not trying to spark a quarrel here  but how can you guarantee that Gattuso might not want to end his career where he started it, Celtic.They are the source for what he is nutoriously konwn for. lol.  . As someone mentioned before, if Nesta is given the Captains armband he will dedicate his future to Milan, just like Torres has ( It worked on him otherwise why would a plyer like him want to stay in Atletico Madrid  ).
Well hey let's just all hope for the best of Milan.You never know mabye making Amorouso the captain of Milan is the way to success in all competetions. lol .


Comparing Torres to Nesta is a totally different thing Nesta grew up in Lazio and was made what he is at Lazio, just like Torres is at Atletico, Nesta was the Lazio captain, just like Torres is at Atletico, but Lazio had to sell Nesta because of financial trouble, he didn't come to Milan because he wanted to achieve bigger things or because he thought he was better then his club he came because his club had no other option but to sell him. And we don't know what Torres will decide in the future he is still young and still one day may decide to leave giving the captain's armband to a player doesn't ensure that he will stay with the team, look at what happened with judas wink.gif

And for the person who asked about if Nesta has ever said that he wanted to reitre at Lazio, yes his agent recently said that Nesta would like to retire there.

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I'm voting for Pirlo coz I'm such a huge fan...look I know we can say that he might have left if we were relegated, but then wasn't Nesta also linked to a host of other clubs.

IMO football has changed a lot...nowadays all players under the age of 30 want to be where the action and the money is...maybe coz careers have shortened a lot.

I voted for Pirlo coz he's the calmest of the lot. Simply because of the way he play it's easy for the team to rally around him. He's calm, I've yet to see him lose his temper, something I've seen even Sandro do and Rino do often...so my vote is for Pirlo then Nesta then Rino.


The reason why I wouldn't like to have Pirlo as captain because I think he is way too quite, first he needs to start standing up for himself before he captains a team, but what you said is true you need to have a cool haed to be captain and I don't think there is anyone calmer then Pirlo out there, but I just don't think he has a lot of leadership abilities.

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Come on...Poulsen is not the devil himself...
What gattuso did was very stupid in fact. I'd still like to see nesta doing the job, I don't care if he's a Lazio player at heart. During the last 25 years we had captains who were above anything else Milanista in Baresi and Maldini. You can't compare anyone to these two.
And let's face it, Gattuso will most surely do something stupid again, and he's definetely not the guy to calm down other players 
Ricky is too young.
And Pirlo in an Interesti at heart, I'd rather see a Lazio hearted captain ( no offense against Pirlo he's great).
The only ones left that really could do the job are Pippo and Dida. And Pippo is often injured and might spend some time on the bench next year if Ibra joins us...
So, I hope it'll be Nesta.


I kind of also liked what he did to Poulsen, sure it's not examplatory or anything, but I'm sure that when he is given that arm band he will stand up to the task of being captain very well. Plus Poulsen deserved all he got after constantly taking cheap shots at Kaka when the Ref wasn't looking

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 5 2006, 06:08 AM

For doing that thing to Poulsen...I'm all for it. Thing is Rino is the only person who can do it...and if he's our Captain how's he gonna do it then?

Like I said.. if we were the X-Men he would be Wolverine.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 5 2006, 07:31 AM

Not quit sure about Gattuso being the captain of Milan. Sure he could do it once or twice a season, but for him to be our captain from now on would be a disgrace. Think about it, he has zero tolerance and needs constant reasurance to keep cool (not captain material to me).

I think the mistake is coming from who is good enough to succeed Maldini, instead we should look for who can hold the team entact .. Maybe someone with wisdom, diplomacy, and experience ..

Posted by: dudernahata Aug 5 2006, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 4 2006, 11:31 PM)
Not quit sure about Gattuso being the captain of Milan. Sure he could do it once or twice a season, but for him to be our captain from now on would be a disgrace. Think about it, he has zero tolerance and needs constant reasurance to keep cool (not captain material to me).

I think the mistake is coming from who is good enough to succeed Maldini, instead we should look for who can hold the team entact .. Maybe someone with wisdom, diplomacy, and experience ..
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whoever becomes captain will have a lot of pressure on them becasue everyone expects a super milanista like rivera, baresi, and maldini. its just so sad to see maldini leave the team sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 5 2006, 12:57 PM

True;their will be a lot of presure on the successor to perform.Btw no matter how much we loved what Gattuso did to Poulsen in the end. lol, it was wrong. Poulsen might have been playing poor football throughout the game, but that's no excuse for what he did, two wrongs do not make one right !!!
Well if it's true that Nesta wants to reitre in Lazio, then I guess Pirlo should be the captain or mabye even Gattuso.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 5 2006, 02:52 PM

I personally think that Pirlo is way too quite to be captain, sure he has a lot of class and has the coolest heads from all the players, but I just don't see it in him, and for the person who said that Pirlo is an Interista at heart, you're wrong he's a Brescia player at heart, he also said that he wanted to retire there.

Maybe seedorf copuld be a short term option until we find a great player that could be our captain, he has class he has a condierably cool head, just look in the video where Rino is doing that to Poulsen he is the one holding him back and trying to talk to him to calm him down.

Maybe Foggia could be our next Maldini, if we lat him play that is and he is able to become a great here, he is a Milan youth player and grew up with the team so who knows what will happen

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 5 2006, 06:28 PM

I don't know han2503...Pirlo is not seen as too vocal on the field...but maybe coz he doesn't need to be. From what I've heard he's well respected in the dressing room and that's a good thing...he doesn't pick up fights oover ego issues...so that's another good thing esp if Ibra is brought in wink.gif...

Foggia is too young...he'll have to be a regular before we can even consider him...I expect Christian Maldini to break in before then...Does anyone know what position Christian plays in? Is he also LB?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 5 2006, 06:36 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:52 PM)
I personally think that Pirlo is way too quite to be captain, sure he has a lot of class and has the coolest heads from all the players, but I just don't see it in him, and for the person who said that Pirlo is an Interista at heart, you're wrong he's a Brescia player at heart, he also said that he wanted to retire there.

Maybe seedorf copuld be a short term option until we find a great player that could be our captain, he has class he has a condierably cool head, just look in the video where Rino is doing that to Poulsen he is the one holding him back and trying to talk to him to calm him down.

Maybe Foggia could be our next Maldini, if we lat him play that is and he is able to become a great here, he is a Milan youth player and grew up with the team so who knows what will happen
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Pirlo is an option .. TBH I cant see anyone takeover from Maldini devil.gif

Even if he retieres, he should sit on the bench and Captain the side ... laugh.gif

Posted by: PaOlo MalDiNi Aug 5 2006, 06:47 PM

hahaha lol, I seriously don't mind that .No one can ever replace the Great Maldini devilsmiley.gif He's just too damn good. I want to share this Maldini copmilation with you guys but I have no idea how to get it on the threads can one of you guys help me out.It's a kick *** video king.gif ,hopefully you guys haven't seen it. Otherwise it'll all be a waste of time. lol.

Posted by: misha Aug 6 2006, 12:40 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 5 2006, 07:28 PM)
I expect Christian Maldini to break in before then...Does anyone know what position Christian plays in? Is he also LB?
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RB

Posted by: misha Aug 6 2006, 12:48 AM

QUOTE (PaOlo MalDiNi @ Aug 5 2006, 07:47 PM)
hahaha lol, I seriously don't mind that .No one can ever replace the Great Maldini  devilsmiley.gif  He's just too damn good. I want to share this Maldini copmilation with you guys but I have no idea how to get it on the threads can one of  you guys help me out.It's a kick *** video king.gif ,hopefully you guys haven't seen it. Otherwise it'll all be a waste of time. lol.
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Put it on the web through http://www.megaupload.com or http://www.yousendit.com/ or http://www.esnips.com/NewAccountAction.ns?action=init&gclid=CPX4uLLdyYYCFRsZUgoddRz45A ... and then post us the link

Posted by: felipe_el_chileno Aug 6 2006, 10:26 PM

I saw this in youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGRbgOQYnb4&mode=related&search=

It´s just amazing how Maldini could come from behind and steal the ball with a sliding tackle without foul!!! devilsmiley.gif devil.gif

Posted by: misha Aug 6 2006, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (felipe_el_chileno @ Aug 6 2006, 11:26 PM)
I saw this in youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGRbgOQYnb4&mode=related&search=

It´s just amazing how Maldini could come from behind and steal the ball with a sliding tackle without foul!!!  devilsmiley.gif  devil.gif
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This why he is the greatest

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 6 2006, 11:02 PM

QUOTE (felipe_el_chileno @ Aug 7 2006, 12:26 AM)
I saw this in youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGRbgOQYnb4&mode=related&search=

It´s just amazing how Maldini could come from behind and steal the ball with a sliding tackle without foul!!!  devilsmiley.gif  devil.gif
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Yea I saw that .. Paolo is Paolo what more can I say; the best thing is, is that he is 37 and still playing at an extraordinary level for a club like Milan

Posted by: Captain Ambro Aug 12 2006, 11:27 AM

I think you can read off my nick who I would like as the new captain smile.gif
Problem is he's not always a starter due to all his injuries...

Posted by: tonys Aug 12 2006, 03:14 PM

Rino would be a fine capintesta

Posted by: #3! Aug 14 2006, 05:18 PM

Yeah Rino is the best option after our King Paolo.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 14 2006, 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Captain Ambro @ Aug 12 2006, 11:27 AM)
I think you can read off my nick who I would like as the new captain smile.gif 
Problem is he's not always a starter due to all his injuries...
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Only this is the problem?

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 14 2006, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 14 2006, 11:31 AM)
Only this is the problem?
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Yep, that is the only problem really! Otherwise he would be our first choice captain after Maldini. But due to his injury problems and his increasing age, it's rather unlikely to happen.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 14 2006, 07:00 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 14 2006, 06:54 PM)
Yep, that is the only problem really! Otherwise he would be our first choice captain after Maldini. But due to his injury problems and his increasing age, it's rather unlikely to happen.
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With Pirlo, Clarence, Rino and Ricky I really don`t see space for Ambro. Even a 100precent fit one?

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2006, 07:04 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 14 2006, 09:00 PM)
With Pirlo, Clarence, Rino and Ricky I really don`t see space for Ambro. Even a 100precent fit one?
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Well the season is long .. And I think our players will get a chance to rotate

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 14 2006, 07:17 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 14 2006, 12:00 PM)
With Pirlo, Clarence, Rino and Ricky I really don`t see space for Ambro. Even a 100precent fit one?
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Last year Ambro was picked over Gattuso and only injuries put him back on the bench. While it would be just mad to pick Ambro over Gatusso this year, I would gladly pick him as our second captain after Rino. If he gets injured again, I can easily see Pirlo, Nesta or even Kaladze taking the armband as our second captains.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 14 2006, 08:17 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 14 2006, 07:17 PM)
Last year Ambro was picked over Gattuso and only injuries put him back on the bench. While it would be just mad to pick Ambro over Gatusso this year, I would gladly pick him as our second captain after Rino. If he gets injured again, I can easily see Pirlo, Nesta or even Kaladze taking the armband as our second captains.
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I don`t know if Rino is the man for that kind of responsability?

Posted by: KillerMax Aug 14 2006, 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 14 2006, 01:17 PM)
I don`t know if Rino is the man for that kind of responsability?
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Galliani said that Rino will be Milan's captain after Paolo... And I'm sure he will change a lot when given the armband. Just watch some of the games where he was assined the captain armband. He did great! wink.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 15 2006, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Aug 14 2006, 09:56 PM)
Galliani said that Rino will be Milan's captain after Paolo... And I'm sure he will change a lot when given the armband. Just watch some of the games where he was assined the captain armband. He did great!  wink.gif
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Yeah i believe that something similar happened to Patrick Viera when he was made captain at Arsenal

At first he got lots of yellow and red cards, but when given the captains armband he cooled down and showed responsibility, Gattuso also proved this when he avoided getting yellow carded after his first offence, he played calmly and made good tackles

Posted by: planck Aug 15 2006, 04:55 PM

I would give it to Nesta or Pirlo!

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 25 2008, 10:07 PM

I know we had similar discussions considering this matter. But this season Maldini will probably say addio, and Milan will have to find a new captain. And the choice isn't that easy or unimportant..

Ivan Gennaro Gattuso
255 matches played (51 caps for Italy)

pros: he's been with Milan for over 8 years, and played as a regular most of the time. Also, most of the fans consider him to be one of the most distinctive Milan players, a trade mark of the post-Maldini generation. His presence, solidity and resistance of long-term injuries could provide a good solution. Also, his character could gain more stability and calmness.
cons: his character in first place. It isn't that rare that we see Gattuso yell and scream at a referee, loosing his temper or acting hastily. He could be a Matrix-like captain, who's 100% with the team but not the guy with experience and sense for playing the ball down. Also, he's 30 years old, which makes him a solution for 4-6 seasons. Not bad, but considering that we had Maldini as captian for about 10 seasons it's a new situation.

Massimo Ambrosini
218 matches played (31 caps for Italy)

pros: Ambrosini has been with Milan since 1995, and knows the team very well. After Boban, Costacurta and Shevchenko retired or left, he had been mostly Maldini's No. 2. His calmness, responsibility and rationality in grave moments is astonishing and displays a positive and ensuring model to the team.
cons: he's known as an injury-prone player, although this season he proved resistivity. It is the main reason why thought playing for Milan more then a decade he never was considered a integral or irreplaceable part of the team. His first XI spot was established only after Ancelotti switched to a different system, or, after the departure of Shevchenko. Also, he's just like Gattuso 30+ years old.

Alessandro Nesta
150 matches played (78 caps for Italy)

pros: played for Italy's squad for three World Cups and has emense international experience. Also, he was for 5 seasons Lazio's captain, guiding the team in their greatest period in the clubs history. In Milan he established himself as a classy defender. Over two decades Milan has a defender as captain. Also, he's been the one who played the most matches alongst with Maldini and Costacurta, plus the Azzuri post-Maldini captain Cannavaro. Allways considered to be a calm and rational player, he certainly has the pedigree to take over at Milan as well.
cons: Nesta never hided his love to Lazio and ruled out a comeback. This fact is his only real "con". In addition to that, the only (minor) problems would be that he's 32 and that he started to be injury-prone.

Kakhaber Kaladze
170 matches played (50 caps for Georgia)

pros: captain of the Georgian NT for quite some time, but however never made it with them to a big tournament final. Playing for Milan for 7 seasons, mostly as a central defender (although started as a left back/winger) he established himself as one of Milans trademarks.
cons: some fans would point out that he's lacking of class to be even a Milan player, more then less a future captain. Also considered to be rugged, without the needed temper and personality for a captain.

Andrea Pirlo
200 matches played (44 caps for Italy)

pros: Andrea did not even past 30 years, which puts him the unique option to be the most long lasting solution. He's a standard player who usually misses not more then 10% of Milan's matches. Also has a good reputation off field and a calm temper. He was Italy's U-21 captain in 2000. when the team reached the bronze medail on the Olympics.
cons: in recent years never proved himself to be a leading character capacity, and never was considered as one.

Clarence Seedorf
170 matches played (86 caps for Holland)

pros: leaded the Dutch national side more then once into success and has many big international matches in his feet's. However, he missed the 2002 WC and being nominated for the NT in 2006. On the other hand, he achived and surpassed numerous records in the Champions League, being the only player to win the trophy with three different clubs, or the most capped Dutch player ever played. He also has that certain leader ability and temper. Seedorf is a regular player, and enjoys a good relationship with both Ancelotti and the rest of Milan's team.
cons: just like Pirlo, he's been playing for Inter in his past, and did change many colors before settling with Milan. He also never was tested as captain at Milan, and in addition played "just" 6 seasons for Milan.

Ricardo Kaka
146 matches played (57 caps for Brazil)

pros: in his professional career Kaka played only for Sao Paolo and Milan. Also, he declared that he will be loyal to the red-black shirt for a long time, putting down any speculations of leaving the team soon. Most likely he will end his career with Milan, and considering that he is only 25 years old, he could be a decade lasting solution. In just one season he established himself as Milan's greatest name, and recently won many awards who proved the same. His character is spotless and his temper well controlled and balanced. Could be the first South American captain at Milan since Jose Altafini and some rare Leonardo jump-ins.
cons: Milan is not familiar with a non-defender and non-Italian as captain. For years there's been a different tradition.

Daniele Bonera
40 matches played (13 caps for Italy)

pros: Bonera is still young, but has given the opportunity to learn from the best - Nesta, Costacurta and Maldini. He has been too often pushed on the flanks and failed, but when played as central defender allways managed a solid performance at least. He is italian, young, and a defender for the next Milan generation.
cons: never actually captained any team and never showed off any leading abilities. In contrary, like Pirlo or even Ambrosini he often plays a reserved role and mostly depends on the teams general attitude. One more "con" is that Bonera only recently joined Milan (2006) and for sure would be a surprise nomination.

Massimo Oddo
32 matches played (34 caps for Italy)

pros: is a combination of Nesta's and Bonera's "pros" with the plus that he was a Milan primavera. So he has a certain legitimity to deserve the armband. He was also Lazio's captain for a few seasons and showed off well, earning himself a NT call-up.
cons: joined Milan only recently, and still has to prove consistency and long-term quality. His Milan connection from the primaveras is more theoretical the applicable. In addition to that he's passed 30 years.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 25 2008, 10:21 PM

My personal choice would be Ambro. Followed by Gattuso and Kaka'.

Nice post Filippo.

Posted by: m1ke Mar 25 2008, 10:23 PM

Great post, and something I was thinking about the other day.

Nesta gets my vote for sure, although I don't think he'll get it (I think it'll go to Ambro). Nesta is arguably our most consistent performer, and has already shown his leadership qualities at Lazio.

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 25 2008, 11:37 PM

ambro/gattuso...my vote went for rino, cause i think ambro won't be so "regular" as this season, but that's just my point of view...

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 25 2008, 11:38 PM

Personally I want a captain for the next 5 or 8 years. so my personal choices are Pirlo and Kaka respectively. but we all know it'll be between Ambro and Rino, which IMO neither are 100% qualified to be Maldini's successor. Ambro just have no control over his nerve in difficult situations and Rino's style of play and especially characteristics are not that of a charismatic leader. he's only good at motivating the others, but that's not all a captain should be... [once again, IN MY OPINION]

Posted by: weeeow Mar 25 2008, 11:39 PM

'Sandro Nesta cool.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 25 2008, 11:43 PM

That said, if I could freely choose one, it'd be Kaka. he's been here for five seasons, is [and will be] an absolute regular starter both for Milan and Brazil, and from every pov, he's just perfect...

Posted by: dst Mar 26 2008, 12:05 AM

Alessandro Nesta. A great man, a great leader and a great footballer. Milan's captain is not just the guy who wears the armband, Milan's captain is a person who is respected by his teammates and his opponents and whose mere presence on the pitch is enough to take the team a whole level above. That said, there is no one in the team right now that can be a captain as great as Paolo Maldini and Franco Baresi. Nesta might have Lazio in his heart but he is ideal for the role in my view.

Kaladze? My heart aches that he's even playing for Milan...

Of course the captain is not going to be Nesta, it will be Ambrosini... I certainly do no agree with this choice though. sleep.gif

PS I hope we won't have to choose one until Summer '09.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 26 2008, 12:45 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 25 2008, 10:38 PM)
Ambro just have no control over his nerve in difficult situations
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Ambro is clutch! I'll never forget the late goal against PSV. He even came up with a big winning goal late on last week!

Posted by: Portikins Mar 26 2008, 12:56 AM



Why?
Well. More matches played. Italian. Charismatic player. Fight-spirit.

-Nesta and Oddo are laziali. Or at least wore their captain armband.
-Bonera is too young.
-Ambrosini is not always a first-team player. And I don't like him too.
-Pirlo - as much I like him - I don't think he has what it takes to be a leader.
-Kaka', Kaladze and Seedorf are not italian and I think our captain must always be from home.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 26 2008, 01:32 AM

They are all captain material (aside from Bonera and Kaka at the moment) but i think Ambrosini is a better captain than Gattuso.

Gattuso embodies the spirit of Milan, and i truely adore him, but his passion is also his downfall, i cant see him with a cool calm temperament like Ambro. Pirlo is also very cool tempered and by know has more influence than before

Ambrosini - Gattuso - Pirlo

That is the order i think it should be. Nesta is a hardcore laziale, i dont think it would be right for him to be no1 captain of Milan. He is nontheless excellent captain material

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 26 2008, 04:45 AM

Well we know that in Milan, the captain of the team is the guy who leads the dressing room, and not the best player.

It's why as much as I love Andy P, and tolerate Kaka (tongue.gif) they don't get my vote.

Seedorf would be captain in a heart beat if he weren't non-Italian.

I think Sandro has refused to be captain of the Milan team. It's the only explanation I can give. Perhaps out of respect for having worn the Lazio band? unsure.gif

Between Ambro and Rino then, and they've chosen Ambro ahead of Rino. I like both of them tbh so I don't really care. Besides Rino has already said, that he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Ambro. So that's fine then.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 26 2008, 05:56 AM

For now ambro gattuso but kaka should be given the chance next season.

Posted by: misha Mar 26 2008, 08:38 AM

If not Lazio and all, Nesta would have been a great captain.

Difficult choice (I love both of them) but I'd pick Ambro ahead of Rino.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 26 2008, 09:38 AM

QUOTE
-Kaka', Kaladze and Seedorf are not italian and I think our captain must always be from

By all means, it isn't exactly a "law". We could name a non-italian as team captain IMO. Occasionally we had Boban and Leonardo as capos. But I get your point..

I voted for Nesta, but I'm about 90% sure Rino will get it next season. Only problem is that this wouldn't be exactly a nice gesture to Ambro.

Btw. Costacurta and Albertini wore the armband, Tassotti and Baresi..did Ancelotti had the honour? And who was captain before Baresi and after Rocco, Trap, Cesare and Rivera?

Posted by: arivanjj Mar 26 2008, 10:43 AM

Nesta for me too... his superiority in leadership clearly stands out.

Posted by: misha Mar 26 2008, 10:59 AM

Silvio said in January after the Napoli match: "There's still time left to decide about that, but I think it's between Gattuso and Ambrosini. I think Gattuso will take the captain role next season because he deserved that and that will be a true honor for Milan and Gattuso too"

Posted by: redbabies Mar 26 2008, 07:20 PM

His name is Alessandro Nesta! devil.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM

Just saw this one. Much as I'd love to see Nesta as captain - and I think he's got the best personality/presence for it - it's my understanding that Milan usually works on the same seniority principle that the Azzurri do. If that's the case, it means that the armband will go to whoever's been around longest.

In that case, I think it would be - in order - Ambrosini - Gattuso - (sorry, dst) Kaladze - Pirlo - Nesta.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 29 2008, 02:34 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM)
Just saw this one. Much as I'd love to see Nesta as captain - and I think he's got the best personality/presence for it - it's my understanding that Milan usually works on the same seniority principle that the Azzurri do. If that's the case, it means that the armband will go to whoever's been around longest.

In that case, I think it would be - in order - Ambrosini - Gattuso - (sorry, dst) Kaladze - Pirlo - Nesta.
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Yep, I think you're right. But, I'd add a slight correction - Ambrosini - Gattuso - Ba - Kaladze,..
How could I forget to include him into this selection,.. biggrin.gif cool.gif

Posted by: rhy_A4 Mar 29 2008, 03:02 PM

i voted Kaka' but i think Nesta should get it now but Kaka' in the near future

Posted by: redbabies Mar 29 2008, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 29 2008, 02:34 PM)
Yep, I think you're right. But, I'd add a slight correction - Ambrosini - Gattuso - Ba - Kaladze,..
How could I forget to include him into this selection,.. biggrin.gif  cool.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

dont forget Fiori devil.gif
He has been with us since '99 tongue.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 31 2008, 05:29 PM

The only players to come out with any sort of credibility from the Atalanta match were Kalac and Ambrosini (perhaps Maldini too)

Long after everyone had given up, Ambrosini was there pushing the team on, giving his all when players like Pirlo and Gattuso could not be bothered

A captain should not need motivation to play well against Atalanta or any other team, he should play his heart of for his team always, even if his legs fail him.

I have already voted for Ambrosini, but you all should realise he is the best captain material, he is not our most gifted player technically or physically, but that is not the point

Lead by example is what he does, and will always do


Posted by: Tennie Mar 31 2008, 05:45 PM

I know a couple of people who are season ticket holders (lucky barstids). One of them has commented that yesterday, Ambrosini was the only real man out on the pitch for Milan.

Ambro's not my favourite player but my Milanese friend and whoarethepatriots have a good point.

Posted by: redbabies Mar 31 2008, 06:08 PM

^^^
well, the only reason why I doubt Ambro will be out captian, is that probably (I hope) he'll not be first-team regular next season.

If we sign 1 or 2 great midfielders Ambro will be the first to seat on the bench, then it comes Seedorf, then Gattuso...

Posted by: jefri91 Mar 31 2008, 06:47 PM

Screw the rest, Pa7o for captain biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 31 2008, 07:04 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 05:29 PM)
The only players to come out with any sort of credibility from the Atalanta match were Kalac and Ambrosini (perhaps Maldini too)

Long after everyone had given up, Ambrosini was there pushing the team on, giving his all when players like Pirlo and Gattuso could not be bothered

A captain should not need motivation to play well against Atalanta or any other team, he should play his heart of for his team always, even if his legs fail him.

I have already voted for Ambrosini, but you all should realise he is the best captain material, he is not our most gifted player technically or physically, but that is not the point

Lead by example is what he does, and will always do


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That's what I've said earlier on. I agree 100%.

Remember


I'll never foget that one.

I voted for Nesta, but it's Ambrosini who should get the armband.

Posted by: maldini03 Mar 31 2008, 09:33 PM

I think that the team should nomintate someone not that we have any say in thet lol tongue.gif

Posted by: Habitant Mar 31 2008, 11:20 PM

kaka is the present the future, and he has been with he squad for 5 years now. funny how no one mentions him. it would be a smart choice cuz it's not like ambro will be a guaranteed starter next season, not to mention 2 years down the road.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 1 2008, 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Mar 31 2008, 10:20 PM)
kaka is the present the future, and he has been with he squad for 5 years now. funny how no one mentions him. it would be a smart choice cuz it's not like ambro will be a guaranteed starter next season, not to mention 2 years down the road.
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Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.

Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc

Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 1 2008, 01:47 AM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 05:10 PM)
Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.

Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc
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its funny how kaka brought us the champions league and got us 4th? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Habitant Apr 1 2008, 01:56 AM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 31 2008, 11:10 PM)
Being a captain is not about regularly starting, its about being inspirational to other, motivating them when things are down.

Its unbelieveable how many times Ambrosini has saved us on the bring of defeat; PSV in 2005, Sampdoria and Atalanta in 2007, Empoli a month ago etc
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well it's hard to motivate from the bench, i mean the most important motivation is done during the game on the pitch. i dont deny his leadership off the field but for all we know fiori is the most important leader... but ti would pretty pointless to make him captain considering how much he plays wink.gif

i wouldnt say it's unbelievable how many times he's saved us cuz i can count the occasions off the top of my head. you can say the same about players too (including kaka) he dragged us to the final in athens last year.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 1 2008, 02:02 AM

Yeah but the way thing are going, kaka' would only be a shot term solution. If we don't make big changes, next season will be his last in Milan, in my opinion.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 1 2008, 02:03 AM

It's still an academic discussion, guys. smile.gif

Milan works on the seniority principle. Unless there are drastic changes, the armband will go to Ambro.

Posted by: Habitant Apr 1 2008, 04:30 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 1 2008, 01:03 AM)
It's still an academic discussion, guys. smile.gif

Milan works on the seniority principle. Unless there are drastic changes, the armband will go to Ambro.
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true but kaladze will never be considered for the captaincy. i would rather goofy as our captain, although the two share similarities laugh.gif


Posted by: redbabies Apr 1 2008, 10:36 AM

QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 1 2008, 04:30 AM)
true but kaladze will never be considered for the captaincy. i would rather goofy as our captain, although the two share similarities  laugh.gif


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If Kaladze becomes a captian...... may God help our ship! biggrin.gif

Its a three-horse raice IMO: .
Ambro 30%, Gennaro 30%, Nesta 40% chance.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 1 2008, 11:40 AM

QUOTE (redbabies @ Apr 1 2008, 02:36 PM)
Ambro 30%, Gennaro 30%, Nesta 40% chance.
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I'm all for it. Nesta is the man. The remaining candidates are Amrbo, Gattuso, and Kaka in no particular order. cool.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 1 2008, 11:53 AM

Nesta?? Uhm..realistically..it's been a two horse race for as far as I can remember.

Kaka is still seen as a bright young kid in the dressing room. He's not at the level Sheva was, when awarded the band. (I don't mean skillwise, I mean his place in the dressing room).

Besides I'm not too keen on the best player being the captain thing. Don't think it makes a difference.

But like 10ie said, it will be a seniority thing. Ambro, Rino and so on.

Posted by: rhy_A4 Aug 22 2008, 05:09 PM

For now i think Nesta keep the arm band in the defence smile.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 22 2008, 07:30 PM

Right now there is an obvious order: God, Ambro, Rino.

After them? not that he quite possesses all the factors a captain need to have, but I'd go with Pirlo ahead of Sandro. firstly because of the seniority thing, secondly because Nesta is a Lazio legend/former captain and it'd be for the good of both teams' fans and players if he stayed away from Milan's captain armband (just my opinion), thirdly because Pirlo is a few years younger and therefore he'll be with us longer (also Nesta's injury setbacks considered), fourthly! by the time God, Ambro and Rino leave Nesta will be too old to become the captain. maybe 35 or 36. fifthly (rolleyes.gif) ... that's enough I think...

Though Pirlo is not quite a charismatic leader like Maldini, players respect him and he's qualified enough for this role. I can see him as the future captain already.

After Pirlo? too soon to tell, but Kaka getting it seems to be a certainty.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 22 2008, 07:34 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 22 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Right now there is an obvious order: God, Ambro, Rino.

After them? not that he quite possesses all the factors a captain need to have, but I'd go with Pirlo ahead of Sandro. firstly because of the seniority thing, secondly because Nesta is a Lazio legend/former captain and it'd be for the good of both teams' fans and players if he stayed away from Milan's captain armband (just my opinion), thirdly because Pirlo is a few years younger and therefore he'll be with us longer (also Nesta's injury setbacks considered), fourthly! by the time God, Ambro and Rino leave Nesta will be too old to become the captain. maybe 35 or 36. fifthly (rolleyes.gif) ... that's enough I think...

Though Pirlo is not quite a charismatic leader like Maldini, players respect him and he's qualified enough for this role. I can see him as the future captain already.

After Pirlo? too soon to tell, but Kaka getting it seems to be a certainty.


+1

Posted by: dst Aug 22 2008, 08:00 PM

Seems about right to me.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 22 2008, 08:09 PM

What is Sheva doing there, btw? I thought m1ke archived old threads...

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