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post Jul 29 2010, 04:05 PM
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:15 PM
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To bad Ronaldinho got injured. I'd like to so how would Allegri play him.

In my opinion we will play with this formation if anyone will not get injured :

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Zambrota - Nesta - Bonera/Papa - Antonini
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 29 2010, 03:15 PM) *
To bad Ronaldinho got injured. I'd like to so how would Allegri play him.

In my opinion we will play with this formation if anyone will not get injured :

Abbiati
Zambrota - Nesta - Bonera/Papa - Antonini
Flamini - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Seedorf
Borriello - Pato

Seedorf playing there will be a problem imo. Pato will need to work his @ss off if we want to see the ball anywhere near the opposition's box. Seedorf passing back to the defence everytime he gets the ball does not bode well for our scoring chances
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 29 2010, 03:35 PM) *
Seedorf playing there will be a problem imo. Pato will need to work his @ss off if we want to see the ball anywhere near the opposition's box. Seedorf passing back to the defence everytime he gets the ball does not bode well for our scoring chances


I expect Seedorf to be much better than you're saying. I saw the game agains Varese and even without Pirlo and Ambrosini to play with, Seedorf was quite good in that position. I wouldn't mind Pato playing more defansive than Borriello, we'd see show from Pato (A)
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 29 2010, 04:40 PM) *
I wouldn't mind Pato playing more defansive than Borriello, we'd see show from Pato (A)

I would. Pato is our striker, our best goalscorer by far. He is weak in defending, weaker than Borriello is.

With that team we miss pace I'd say. Seedorf, Pirlo... all kinda slow...
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 29 2010, 04:46 PM) *
I would. Pato is our striker, our best goalscorer by far. He is weak in defending, weaker than Borriello is.

With that team we miss pace I'd say. Seedorf, Pirlo... all kinda slow...


No I wanted to say I wouldn't mind Pato playing as SS, of course in left side.
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 29 2010, 05:47 PM) *
No I wanted to say I wouldn't mind Pato playing as SS, of course in left side.

I want Pato as striker, with the freedom going wide, but mostly forward in the middle I want to see him, I want to see Pato challenging the goalkeeper more often than Borriello. Borriello joins the forward to complete/help Pato.

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post Jul 29 2010, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 29 2010, 05:50 PM) *
I want Pato as striker, with the freedom going wide, but mostly forward in the middle I want to see him, I want to see Pato challenging the goalkeeper more often than Borriello. Borriello joins the forward to complete/help Pato.


Borriello's classic striker, Pato has not attributes to be classic striker. He's best when playing as second striker and becouse goals are not important in this tournament I'd like to see Pato more dribling and running than scoring.
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Jul 29 2010, 04:53 PM) *
Borriello's classic striker, Pato has not attributes to be classic striker. He's best when playing as second striker and becouse goals are not important in this tournament I'd like to see Pato more dribling and running than scoring.

Every goal gives you a point in this tournament. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Goals are not important?

Pato doesn't have the attributes to be a classic striker? Pato runs, shot, heading, pace, it's all good to amazing. He is our best striker by far, yes, striker! And he is not THAT weak in case you want to say that. He is still very young, he will become even less 'weaker'. Anyway, that's why Borriello is a good partner for him, who is strong and plays along well and moves well.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jul 29 2010, 04:58 PM) *
Every goal gives you a point in this tournament. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Goals are not important?

Pato doesn't have the attributes to be a classic striker? Pato runs, shot, heading, pace, it's all good to amazing. He is our best striker by far, yes, striker! And he is not THAT weak in case you want to say that. He is still very young, he will become even less 'weaker'. Anyway, that's why Borriello is a good partner for him, who is strong and plays along well and moves well.


Pato is much better when playing as Second Striker and I would NEVER use him as Striker knowing that he is can give his best playing as SS. If we find one Second Striker better than Pato than Ok we play Pato as striker and that x player as SS.
Pato isn't classic striker cos' his finishing isn't like Borriello's or Inzaghi's, he is not as good header as they are, and his positioning is not that good. During that playing Borriello has helper of Pato wouldn't be very wise knowing that Borriello is good only before opposite goalkeeper.
So playing in that way (Borriello helper of Pato , Pato classic striker) we'd have our attack unbalanced. Leo tried this in the start of last season and Pato scored only against Siena the other games were not good.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:09 PM
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Are you really questioning Pato's finishing? I agree his finishing isn't like Borriello's and Inzaghi's. It's way better.

To me Pato is as best as striker. We just disagree completely about this all.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:26 PM
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Thing is, playing Pato as striker means wasting his great speed and dribble.

He's a kickass finisher too, but he can do more damage from behind, while Bori/Hunter are decent finishers and bad runners.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:34 PM
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This fish would play either Borriello or Pippo as the center forward and Pato as SS. The former would seem to be more effective as target guys whereas the duck has more mobility.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:40 PM
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Borriello is way more useful than Pippo when already playing Pato.
QUOTE (Linkman @ Jul 29 2010, 06:26 PM) *
Thing is, playing Pato as striker means wasting his great speed and dribble.

He's a kickass finisher too, but he can do more damage from behind, while Bori/Hunter are decent finishers and bad runners.

Pato's dribbling is not THAT amazing. Pato's pace and runs are, and that makes him one hell of a dangerous striker, also because he shoots very well (and he can head as well). Pato creates most damage as a striker, BUT I would also give him the freedom to go wide. I want to see movement up front from Pato, Borriello and the AM. I would start this team against Arsenal:

Pato, Borriello
Verdi
Ambrosini, Pirlo, Flamini
Antonini, Nesta, Yepes, Papastathopoulos
Abbiati

Not sure about who to start as RB and CB. I didn't watch last game, but Yepes did well I heard? Also I would like to see how Papastathopoulos plays as RB for us.
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post Jul 29 2010, 06:57 PM
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I think Pato expresses himself better as second striker, like Shevchenko used to do when paired with the various Inzaghi, Tomasson and Gilardino. He has the dribble, the speed and the progression to vary across the attacking line. Personally, I'd rather play him as second striker supported by a pure AM like Kaka' than as a left/right winger like Leo used him last summer.

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