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Posted by: Portikins Aug 11 2006, 10:41 PM
2nd leg (1-0 advantage for Milan)
21:00 (Italian Time)
OK. 2nd leg is coming. Almost 10 days... your forecasts/predictions. 
Posted by: han2503 Aug 11 2006, 11:13 PM
1-0 to us could be a bigger advantage if the players regain some form and take their chances
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 12 2006, 02:45 AM
1-4
Posted by: han2503 Aug 12 2006, 03:13 AM
Took the liberty of fixing that for you
Posted by: hashkal Aug 12 2006, 03:54 AM
Kind of a boring prediction for this one....Serbian fans... their staduims are like fortresses...it might end up being tricky.
But, I would place a bet for a 0-1 Milan, or a draw... sadly it won't be as exciting as we all want it to be...
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 12 2006, 04:05 AM
2 - 0 for me...
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 12 2006, 04:07 AM
for them?I have a good feeling about this game. It seems like we are going to be ready for it.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 12 2006, 04:56 AM
I think it's going to be an easy one. Come on, we're Milan and they're what, Red Star? Meh, they were pathetic on wednesday. The only advantage they have is their stadium which is something like San Siro for us. Even though its capacity is 50.000 and San Siro's is 83.000. I'm sure that the two matches for the Herrera trophy will give us the top form we need for this match. Really, it would be a shame if we don't manage to get past a team like Red Star.
Posted by: misha Aug 12 2006, 06:06 AM
Their stadium and fans won't be a threat for us. 1:3 easily
Posted by: Delija Aug 12 2006, 08:46 AM
dont live in dream rossoneri 1:0 zigic extra time 2:0 djokic 
my opinion!!!
You will pass like the romans lol 
Let Europe 2 be scared of us again
Posted by: misha Aug 12 2006, 09:05 AM
1:0 zigic extra time 2:0 djokic my opinion!!!You will pass like the romans lol
That's looks very scary
Do you really think that our experience players will be bothered by 50000 people ? Having a good team is more important than having good supporters. We have both
Posted by: aaron Aug 12 2006, 09:17 AM
1:0 zigic extra time 2:0 djokic my opinion!!!You will pass like the romans lol
ok you will see, our players will be
fit you already saw what happened at san siro
our are attacers will be fired.
score will be 0-3 MILAN
you should watch out for Gila he's very hungry
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 12 2006, 10:22 AM
1:0 zigic extra time 2:0 djokic my opinion!!!You will pass like the romans lol
Let Europe 2 be scared of us again
Nice pics .. Is that all that Stella Rossa is about #@? I don't understand, are we going there to get a result or admire the atmosphere .. Personally, I don't think Milan has time to admire the atmosphere they want the result ..
Gluck, you will need it
Posted by: Delija Aug 12 2006, 10:40 AM
Biger clubs like Barcelona falled beacose of atmosfere. result was 1:1
dont be so shure. you are the one that need luck. dont take this personaly i dont want to fight with you, its a frendly sugestion 
The look around the stadium
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 12 2006, 10:57 AM
dont be so shure. you are the one that need luck. dont take this personaly i dont want to fight with you, its a frendly sugestion
FIght ?! Be realistic .. Is that all you have to offer ?
Anything other than Pics ? Goals ? maybe some good plays by Stella Rossa ?
Posted by: sonics Aug 12 2006, 11:06 AM
0-2 scored by kaka and gila
Posted by: misha Aug 12 2006, 11:15 AM
dont be so shure. you are the one that need luck. dont take this personaly i dont want to fight with you, its a frendly sugestion
Pretty cocky considering that your club has never played in the CL
Posted by: m1ke Aug 12 2006, 11:32 AM
Red Star are certainly going to make it difficult - we can't blame them! I've heard that there is a great atmosphere inside the stadium, but I doubt it will affect our players much as they've played in much worse places
If we can play like we did in the first leg we shouldn't have any problems. I hope Gila will break his CL drought too (how many times did I say that last season? 
)
Posted by: sonics Aug 12 2006, 11:54 AM
i,m worried in second leg milan will lose like in 1999. beside that east europe player (red star) have good strengh, maybe they can make penalties round.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 12 2006, 04:04 PM
They have won it in 1991.
dont be so shure. you are the one that need luck. dont take this personaly i dont want to fight with you, its a frendly sugestion
I am "shure" that we're gonna kick your @ss
Posted by: misha Aug 12 2006, 04:27 PM
The have won Champions Cup.
Posted by: Portikins Aug 12 2006, 05:13 PM
0-1, IMO.
It's enough. 
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 12 2006, 08:26 PM
dont be so shure. you are the one that need luck. dont take this personaly i dont want to fight with you, its a frendly sugestion
The look around the stadium
I'll be more than happy if the score is 1:1
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Aug 12 2006, 08:29 PM
If, and it's a big if, we can get an early goal then I can see us racking up some goals. But the longer it stays at 0:0 the more nervy we will get.
I think it will be pretty close, in fact I predict 1:1.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 13 2006, 02:55 AM
It's the same thing.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 13 2006, 03:41 AM
for them?lol, my preditions always go Milan's way.
Posted by: misha Aug 13 2006, 09:22 AM
"Red Star, who won the European Cup in 1991, have never qualified for the lucrative group stage of Europe's premier club competition"http://www.supersoccer.co.za/default.asp?id=187394&des=article&scat=supersoccer/europe
Until 1992-1993 it was champions cup and from then it became Champions League.
I meant that since the new rules , name and format they never were in it.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 13 2006, 10:51 AM
& I doubt they will make it this time around too ..
Posted by: javierk128 Aug 13 2006, 01:07 PM
bigger clubs like barcelona?? 
i don´t know why people thinks that barcelona is bigger than us, milan has one of the richest past of the european teams, much more than barcelona´s
6 Uefa Champions League---->We should have 7
17 Scudetto-------------------->We should have 19 hehehe
Barcelona
2 Uefa Champions League
and i don´t remember, but i think they have like 17-18 ligas, well something like that
so think of your saying before write it
Posted by: Portikins Aug 13 2006, 01:19 PM
Good point. Since WHEN Barcelona is a great club? Because all this hype about Ronaldinho... ?
They have as CL trophies as Porto or Benfica. Even Benfica has much more finals than them.
In La Liga they've some titles, but not even close to Real Madrid.
Do NOT be confused. There's something called "BIG TEAM" with great players and that... there's another thing called "BIG CLUB" with history and titles.
IE: Chelsea has a big team, but no history.
Milan at the moment is a big team, but always have been a great club. Just like Juventus (for league titles), Real (don't need to explain), Liverpool, Bayern...
Posted by: tonys Aug 13 2006, 03:10 PM
I totally agree...
My prediction is 0-1
Alberto Gilardino
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 14 2006, 06:25 AM
My prediction is 0-1
Alberto Gilardino
Good prediction, espacially for Alberto.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2006, 08:06 AM
Damn this kid is unlucky .. Im starting to hate him. Cant stand him
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 14 2006, 08:14 AM
I can think that you start hating Gilardino, right?
Don't do it please, he is a good kid, he'll score
Posted by: planck Aug 14 2006, 08:29 AM
My prediction would be 3-1 in our favour!
Pirlo, Gila and Kaka!
And then Zigic!
Posted by: dst Aug 14 2006, 09:36 AM
1-2 ... and like Pele sais (I think that's all the English he knows) "It will be a tough game" ... 
Posted by: Delija Aug 14 2006, 09:42 AM
you dont understand. red star plays much much beter home. its not the crowd that you should be afraid. on the "Marakana" crowd gets them going. they play with heart 101%
Posted by: Delija Aug 14 2006, 09:44 AM
you dont understand. red star plays much much beter home. its not the crowd that you should be afraid. on the "Marakana" crowd gets them going. they play with heart 101%. in last 16 years only two teams beat red star on Marakana in Europ Chamionship, that is my point
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 14 2006, 09:50 AM
2 teams, that's tooo little... We need to increase that number... No problem we'll do it!!!
Anybody remembers Stambul
0-4
Something like that I can predict...
Posted by: Captain Ambro Aug 14 2006, 01:23 PM
So? We can even afford to lose if we just score...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2006, 03:33 PM
We do understand very well, but you also have to understand what is going on with Milan .. We have to Qualify, no matter if its in 'Markana', 'Allenz Arena', 'Bernabeu', 'Camp Nou', 'Old Trafford', etc ..
Milan has no other alternative. Maybe Stella Rossa can live with it if they dont qualify, because they were never the favourites .. But to Milan, the Champions League is a complement.
So even if you field a team full of world class players in your best stadium filled with 200,000 .. Milan will put in it's usual performance and bring back the qualification into the Champions League.
We are not speaking out of arrogance, Milan have always been favourites
Posted by: florenti1 Aug 14 2006, 03:46 PM
Red Star will win
2 - 1
and after this game all red star fans will quietly go to
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 14 2006, 05:33 PM
Milan has no other alternative. Maybe Stella Rossa can live with it if they dont qualify, because they were never the favourites .. But to Milan, the Champions League is a complement.
So even if you field a team full of world class players in your best stadium filled with 200,000 .. Milan will put in it's usual performance and bring back the qualification into the Champions League.
We are not speaking out of arrogance, Milan have always been favourites
Exactly. We nearly beat Barcelona in Kamp Nou last season. Kamp Nou's capacity is 110,000, while Maracana's is 50,000. I think we'll have no problem.
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 14 2006, 05:41 PM
As I predict, it will be a draw: 1-1
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 14 2006, 06:58 PM
1-1 ? If we recover our defence, they wont get a chance ! the scoreline would be a win for Milan .. I dont think they'll score
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 15 2006, 12:27 AM
If we recover either one between Nesta and Kaladze, they won't have a chance. Let the Red Star fans not forget we miss our top centre defenders
Posted by: amancik Aug 15 2006, 07:41 PM
Red Star 0 - 1 Milan
Andrea Pirlo '42 (free-kick)
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 17 2006, 08:02 AM
such a prediction....
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 17 2006, 01:41 PM
Kaka 36th minute
Stella Rossa 0 - 1 Milan
Posted by: han2503 Aug 17 2006, 04:03 PM
If it wasn't for a miracle save by the Deportivo keeper, Pirlo would have scored on a free kick in that game, so I wouldn't rule it out
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 17 2006, 05:30 PM
I head today on Studio Sport that Ancelotti is keen on the Xmas tree scheme for this match, with Pirlo in the centre, Gourcuff and Gattuso on the wings, and Kakà + Seedorf supporting Inzaghi. That would be a good idea.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 17 2006, 05:39 PM
GILA...
Posted by: han2503 Aug 17 2006, 09:35 PM
I like that idea and I personally think tha gourcuff would be better in Seedorfs role then in Kaka's he was more effective in that position then when he was the playmaker behind the strikers, it might just only be because he needs to build his body a bit more because he doesn't seem strong enough, I'm sure he will be ready to play Kaka's position better after he has spent the year with Milan working on his physique
Yeah I know I really would like to see Gila play but fact is he isn't ready, he said it himself, and since pippo is putting in the goals he probably will get the nod before Gila if we play with only one striker
Posted by: m1ke Aug 17 2006, 11:24 PM
Xmas tree is a must for this game. We'll be able to take the sting out of the game and play at our own tempo. I'd prefer Pippo to lead the attack with Gila replacing him later in the game.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 18 2006, 01:01 AM
Totally right, we would have more balance in the midfield and we won't let them control the game.
I wish we still had stam, he would have been able to take care of Zigic much more easier then Simic, he was having trouble with him when high balls came in.
And Pippo should definately start in this, and with Gila replacing him so we could keep their defence on their toes with our striker not getting tired and constantly moving and treathening to score.
Posted by: m1ke Aug 18 2006, 01:04 AM
I still see Gallas as an ideal replacement for Stam - and he's said that he still wants to leave Chelsea. I hope Braida can make it happen.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 18 2006, 01:07 AM
I really don't see that happening. I think Milan signed Bonera as Stam's replacement. If we are to sign a defender, it will most likely be Oddo.
Posted by: Portikins Aug 18 2006, 01:18 AM
I don't like the Xmas tree tactic... and Don Silvio will never allow Carletto to play with only 1 foward.
But, for this match, looking at our options... it's the best tactic we can use.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 18 2006, 01:20 AM
But, for this match, looking at our options... it's the best tactic we can use.
Nice avatar!
Posted by: Portikins Aug 18 2006, 01:21 AM
... ...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 18 2006, 02:32 AM
I don't think Simic will play in this match. We have Bonera available and maybe Nesta can recover. So I guess our defence should look something like this:
Cafu-----Bonera (Nesta)-----Costacurta-----Serghino
But maybe I'm wrong and Ancelotti will play with the same defence as in the first match.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 18 2006, 05:28 AM
Cafu-----Bonera (Nesta)-----Costacurta-----Serghino
But maybe I'm wrong and Ancelotti will play with the same defence as in the first match.
it will be like this,
Cafu-----Oddo (Nesta)-----Costacurta-----Serghino
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 18 2006, 06:51 AM
Cafu-----Oddo (Nesta)-----Costacurta-----Serghino
What are you talking about? Oddo is not a Milan player and even if we signed him today he still couldn't play... You ok man?
Oh, and Oddo is a RB not a CB...
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 18 2006, 08:53 AM
Oh, and Oddo is a RB not a CB...
i was being sarcastic, just trying to get some hopes up
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 18 2006, 12:40 PM
This game should finish in our favour .. As past games have proven, Milan always make it through in the decisive games.
About the tactics; X-tree or two strikers, really doesnt matter as long as we score one goal .. Then all my worries will be over.
I hope Nesta and Kaladze recover in time .. cz I dont think Simic is up for it, at the San Siro he was lucky, but I don't know .. I have my doubts about him
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 18 2006, 06:57 PM
About the tactics; X-tree or two strikers, really doesnt matter as long as we score one goal .. Then all my worries will be over.
I hope Nesta and Kaladze recover in time .. cz I dont think Simic is up for it, at the San Siro he was lucky, but I don't know .. I have my doubts about him
Costacurta is playing on Tuesday. I'm not sure who will partner him.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 18 2006, 07:38 PM
But, for this match, looking at our options... it's the best tactic we can use.
Carlo has played the xmas tree formation on many occasions before, I'm sure Silvio won't say anything if he plays it for another game.
I think our best formation for this match should be
Cafu--Bonera--Billy--Serginho
----Gattuso--Pirlo--Gourcuff---
---------Kaka--Seedorf---------
--------------Pippo---------------
If we are ahead bring in Gila, if we are desperate for a goal let Pippo stay on the field I'm sure he could steele one at death.
Unless the Sobis deal goes through and he would be ready to play (which is highly unlikely) then the xmas tree formation is our only option, if Sobis would be ours and ready to play then definately put the 2 strikers upfront.
BTW Portugal love your avitar
hilarious
Posted by: misha Aug 18 2006, 07:47 PM
I don't think we can let player play in 3 round unless he was on the list that was submitted before
Posted by: han2503 Aug 18 2006, 09:16 PM
damn it! totally forgot about the list
Posted by: dst Aug 19 2006, 05:31 AM
Well you're right ... but IMO we need both Gallas and Oddo!!!!
I hope Gourcuff will score!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 20 2006, 12:26 AM
Err, I think that Carlo will put the same formation as he did in the first match. That's what I heard on Milan Channel. The defense will be definitely the same, with Cafu, Simic, Billy and Sergio. The only thing that concerns Ancelotti is if he should play with one or two strikers.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2006, 12:56 AM
Our ideal formation for this game should be this
Cafu--Bonera--Billy--Serginho
----Gattuso--Pirlo--Gourcuff---
---------Kaka--Seedorf---------
--------------Pippo---------------
We will have balance and we will be able to control the game more if we play with 5 in the midfield.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 20 2006, 04:23 AM
A lot rests on this match .. I doubt Carlo would play Gourcuff from the start .. the X-tree is an option .. I just have this feeling that it will be a defensive side that we will be fielding .. Maybe a goal from Inzaghi to complicate things for them, but the big picture is a closed game from our part
Posted by: aaron Aug 20 2006, 10:42 AM
Cafu--Bonera--Billy--Serginho
----Gattuso--Pirlo--Gourcuff---
---------Kaka--Seedorf---------
--------------Pippo---------------
i think Bonera is still injured did not train with the team yesterday.
i think simic will play @ RCB.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2006, 03:04 PM
I think Gourcuff is a Carlo favourite and I'm pretty sure that he will start, if not he will still get a good few minutes out there. And personally I think that Gourcuff is more like Pirlo then Kaka, that's why I think he will play there instead of next to Kaka, plus Seedorf is stronger so he can manage that position better then him
Posted by: dst Aug 20 2006, 03:16 PM
Gourcuff is definetely the Kaka type of player ... byt anyway both Pirlo and Kaka are 10s so ...
Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2006, 03:21 PM
When I was watching him play I though he was more the Pirlo type because he likes to steele balls and make intelligent passes.
I know he will most likely develop to be more like Kaka, but since he doesn't seem that strong to handle tough manmarking, I would use him more as a replacement for Pirlo for now, I'm sure he will work on his body strength more
Posted by: dst Aug 20 2006, 03:24 PM
well I regard Kaka's passes quire clever as well ...
Gourcuff is not the long-ball though, he took a nice Kakaish through ball towards Pippo, remember?? But I think he'll defend more than Kaka ... he's ... Karlo???
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 20 2006, 03:26 PM
I haven't seen him play ...but I was inclined to play him alongside Kaka too. But I guess I didn't think about manmarking and all.
So playing Seedorf alongside Kaka...so all the talk about Seedorf slowing down was just B.S huh?
Well I really wouldnt mind X-mas tree, maybe if we go a goal ahead I'd like a 4-4-1-1 with Gila coming in behind Pippo?
Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2006, 03:32 PM
Gourcuff is not the long-ball though, he took a nice Kakaish through ball towards Pippo, remember?? But I think he'll defend more than Kaka ... he's ... Karlo???
Maybe we should start calling him that
Posted by: Costacurta Aug 20 2006, 03:33 PM
I think it will be low scoring, 0-0 more than possible. Either way, I would expect us to win.As long as we keep them out we'll be ok.
Btw, Red Star is Savicevic's old club, what's he upto these days?
Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2006, 03:40 PM
So playing Seedorf alongside Kaka...so all the talk about Seedorf slowing down was just B.S huh?
Well I really wouldnt mind X-mas tree, maybe if we go a goal ahead I'd like a 4-4-1-1 with Gila coming in behind Pippo?
Seedorf was never a fast player, I was just saying that since Gourcuff doesn't have the strength to hold that position YET we should switch his and Seedorf's position for now, because Seedorf is stronger and can still play as a playmaker.
If we play a 4-4-1-1, it would have to be either Gila or Pippo upfront with Kaka behind them. Something like this
Cafu'--Simic--Billy--Janku
Foggia--Rino--Pirlo--Sergi
-----------Kaka------------
-------------Gila/Pippo----
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 20 2006, 03:54 PM
I'm pretty sure we will play like this:
--------------------Dida--------------------
Cafu---Simic---Costacurta---Serghino
Gattuso---------Pirlo---------Ambrosini
------------Kakà ---------Seedorf--------
-------------------Inzaghi-----------------
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 20 2006, 04:53 PM
How long did Gourcuff play in the first leg ? I cant remember, but I think Carlo brought him in for 20 mins of the second half. I hope he does play, he needs to get some games under his feet to integrate w/ his team mates. But what I was thinking is that he is still young, when Kaka first came, Carlo wouldn't risk bringing him on unless we had an advantage.
Gourcuff, although young, he's a first team player at Rennes .. But too much rests on this game in particular .. And Gourcuff would be a liability on the field, as he still hasnt been tested under pressure.
I hope he blossoms in Milan, as Kaka did .. But I highly doubt if our new boy will get his chance ..
But wasn't Gourcuff a MDF player .. He is close to Seedorf's position than Kaka .. ?? Anyways, the season is close to start, we'll find out what he really is
Posted by: dst Aug 20 2006, 04:54 PM
...
Posted by: dst Aug 20 2006, 06:38 PM
Milan name Belgrade party
Milan have named their squad travelling to Belgrade for Tuesday’s Champions League crunch match.
Coach Carlo Ancelotti has called 22 players for the Preliminary Round tie against Red Star at the Marakana Stadium.
Daniele Bonera could make his official debut after missing the first leg due to a ban left over from his time with Parma.
Alessandro Nesta and Paolo Maldini remain sidelined with injury, so 40-year-old Billy Costacurta is again expected to captain the side from central defence.
The Rossoneri have a 1-0 lead from the first leg at San Siro thanks to a goal from Pippo Inzaghi, but Red Star are still in with a shout of Champions League qualification.
The referee has also been assigned for this game. Dane Claus Bo Larsen has already officiated Milan twice in his career, a 2-0 UEFA Cup win over CSKA Sofia in October 2001 and last season’s entertaining 2-2 Champions League draw at Schalke 04.
Milan squad:
Gk: Dida (1), Coppola (78), Kalac (16)
D: Bonera (25), Cafu (2), Costacurta (5), Favalli (19), Jankulovski (18), Serginho (27), Simic (17)
M: Ambrosini (23), Brocchi (32), Foggia (83), Gattuso (8), Gourcuff (20), Kakà (22), Pirlo (21), Seedorf (10)
F: Amoroso (37), Borriello (12), Gilardino (11), Inzaghi (9)
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug20l.html
Posted by: ljuba1 Aug 20 2006, 08:39 PM
Btw, Red Star is Savicevic's old club, what's he upto these days?
He is going to be there to support Red Star of course. He will host Mr. Berlusconi and his party.
Avanti, avanti, avanti Stella Rossa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ljuba1 Aug 20 2006, 08:45 PM
This is the man who won UEFA Champions Cup with both clubs Red Star and AC MIlan.
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 20 2006, 10:36 PM
Great player, one of the best Milan has ever had. I will never forget his goal against Barça in '94.
Posted by: dst Aug 21 2006, 12:14 AM
ohh ... Savicevic ... that name brings back so many good memories!!!
... 
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 21 2006, 12:15 PM
If we are to play the x-mas formation, Ambrosini will get the nod over Gourcuff for sure!
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 21 2006, 12:30 PM
i think Ancelotti is going to play it safe like this:
--------------------------Dida-------------------------
--Cafu---------Favalli--------Costacurta-------Simic
-------Gattuso---------Pirlo-------------Seedorf-----
-------------------------Kaka--------------------------
------------------Pippo----------Gila-----------------
Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2006, 03:24 PM
--------------------------Dida-------------------------
--Cafu---------Favalli--------Costacurta-------Simic
-------Gattuso---------Pirlo-------------Seedorf-----
-------------------------Kaka--------------------------
------------------Pippo----------Gila-----------------
I think the xmas tree is more of the safe option.
And btw Simic can't play on the left, he will partnes Billy in the centre and Serginho will be our LB
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 21 2006, 04:09 PM
I agree with arivanjj. I've read in a lot of places that Carlo wants to play with two strikers. He said Milan is not going there to defend the 1-0 result, but to close the match as quickly as possible.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2006, 04:40 PM
Who knows, I don't see us scoring goals that quickly with Gila and Pippo, they simply don't work well together. And the xmas tree isn't a defensive formation, it can be very attack minded depending on how you use it.
Besides there are also rumors that Gila could be dropped because he isn't in-form, so thats why I think we will be playing the xmas tree
And Carlo isn't that stupid, he knows that we can't go all out attacking in this game we will be left open and they could strike us on a counter, I think Carlo will play more cautiously then he is letting on.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 21 2006, 04:48 PM
Besides there are also rumors that Gila could be dropped because he isn't in-form, so thats why I think we will be playing the xmas tree
And Carlo isn't that stupid, he knows that we can't go all out attacking in this game we will be left open and they could strike us on a counter, I think Carlo will play more cautiously then he is letting on.
I think Ambrosini is a MUST in this game. He is a great defensive midfielder and he links up with the attack well. Him and Gattusso could easily stop incoming attacks and contribute to attack as well. Pippo is a great finisher and Kaka could also score so we should be set. I don't think playing Gourcuff from the start is a wise idea. He should come in in the second half.
Posted by: dst Aug 21 2006, 05:11 PM
finally someone!!!!
Posted by: ljuba1 Aug 21 2006, 05:16 PM
Anybody knows if we can see the game live in USA? I checked all soccer channels (Setanta, GOL TV, Fox Soccer Channel, ESPN Deportes) and nobody has that game!!! Looks like we have to watch on internet only.
Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2006, 06:05 PM
Yeah, if we play the xmas tree Ambro will definately start, that way Pirlo will be more free also with him and Rino covering for him, ho won't have to worry about any defensive duties.
You know I always liked the xmas tree formation dst and right now with the type of strikers we have we almost have no option but to play it. Just because the formation has only one striker in it doesn't mean it's a defensive one. I wouldn't call a formation that had Kaka, Pirlo and Seedorf in it defensive.
Posted by: dst Aug 21 2006, 06:19 PM
"Yeah but it's still only one striker, that means it's s defensive tactic ... bla bla ... bla"
...
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 12:46 AM
We'll play with the same line up as in the first match. Ancelotti said it tonight live from Belgrade on Milan Channel.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 22 2006, 01:17 AM
If Berlusconi is in the stands it will be two upfront or a very possesive X-tree formation .. Whichever way the formation is, expect a Milan show
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 10:21 AM
we haven't played with the xmas-tree for sometime, and i dont think carlo will take a chance with testing it out tonight.
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 11:51 AM
just 9 hours left ... I'm sooooooooooo Milan thirsty!!!!
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 22 2006, 12:59 PM
Me2, but I can't watch the match because there is this birthday party I have to go to...
Posted by: aaron Aug 22 2006, 01:10 PM
i'll be back at six I hope some one will be giving some update during the game.....
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 01:33 PM
because there is this birthday party I have to go to...you have to go???
C'mon now you look awfully sick ... stay at home!!!
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 22 2006, 01:52 PM
C'mon now you look awfully sick ... stay at home!!!
Hehe...I can't it's my best friends birthday, and he's Bayern Munich fan (hates Milan
) so he wouldn't understand it
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 02:19 PM
) so he wouldn't understand it Oh, I wonder why he hates Milan?
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 22 2006, 02:50 PM
Hehe....I know. The Bayern fans especially hate Pippo
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 03:15 PM
oh come on the guy is just doing what he's paid to do ... I guess it's cause he does it in an emphatic way ahainst Bayern
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 04:09 PM
5 goals in the last 3 matches against Bayern, unstoppable.
Posted by: misha Aug 22 2006, 06:57 PM
Just one hour left. I can't wait
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 07:24 PM
Something tells me to watch out for Seedorf, Cafu and Pippo! May the force be with you Milan!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 07:34 PM
Only 30 minutes. Forza Milan!
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 07:38 PM
HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Milan Milan I'm like a kid ... I so want to see Milan play all the time
I want Milan mom!!!!!!!!
MILAN MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 07:40 PM
MILAN LINE-UP FOR RED STAR GAME
8/22/2006
MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Simic, Costacurta, Serginho; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà ; Inzaghi, Gilardino.
Subs: Kalac, Borriello, Favalli, Jankulovski, Brocchi, Ambrosini, Gourcuff.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 07:41 PM
line up:
Dida;
Cafu, Simic, Costacurta, Serginho;
Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf;
Kakà ;
Inzaghi, Gilardino.
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 07:42 PM
i like the line up, it looks solid.
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 07:43 PM
... and unexpected ... ha-ha!!! It's OK really!!!!!
Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 07:52 PM
Yeah, guys, I can't watch it too. I can see just the live score. Keep us aware whats going on ok?
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 07:55 PM
how possible is it Borriello comes from the bench and scores a brace ...
I know it will be a miracle if he comes in for a start ...
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 07:56 PM
it's about to kick-off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 07:58 PM
Haha...I'd love to see the look on Pippo's face...then...Pippo always wants to score all the goals.
Selfish B!tch...I'd call him a b@st@rd..if I didn't admire him to pieces. Forza Pippo...I love his moves.
Uh..dst what does tu sei tutta la mia vita mean...I can't get a good translation from babelfish.
Posted by: Darunia Aug 22 2006, 07:59 PM
Watching it on sopcast, forza milan!
Milan wearing black
Posted by: Minami Aug 22 2006, 08:01 PM
It's starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 08:05 PM
I don't like this shirt ... So ugly ...
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 08:11 PM
selfish play by Pippo he should've past it.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 08:15 PM
I thought he did pass one to Kaka....Pippo will be Pippo!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 08:21 PM
Very impressive stadium, it must be a very tough match so far for us
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 08:29 PM
GOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PIPPOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rjpado Aug 22 2006, 08:31 PM
PIPPPOOOOOOOO OOMMMMFFFFFGGGGGGG!!!!!!1
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 08:31 PM
GOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 08:31 PM
Wonderful goal!!! Always Pippo ...
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 08:31 PM
YOU ARE ALL MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
err ... Milan that is
...
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 08:32 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, great passing.
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 08:33 PM
Seedorf out? Take Gourcuff in!
Posted by: Captain Ambro Aug 22 2006, 08:34 PM
Feels so good! Our SuperPippo!!!!
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 08:34 PM
hey seedorf has been doing great tonight, he did some cool moves.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 08:40 PM
PIPOOOO!!! I loove Pippo and I don't give a f@ck if dst thinks I'm gay! Whooooooooz ur Daddy now Delija...
HOO AH...mess with the best...die like the rest!
Ok I better shut up now...before I jinx the whole bloody thing...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 22 2006, 08:40 PM
Still, Milan is the favorite. Still, Milan will win. Even with the "Marakana effect" Red Star has no real chances
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 08:42 PM
Rui Costa scored for Benfica
Posted by: rjpado Aug 22 2006, 08:49 PM
our players look tired and lazy.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 08:50 PM
God, I love Pippo!
Posted by: Captain Ambro Aug 22 2006, 08:51 PM
Halftime, Milan are really controlling the game even though they're giving away a bit too much around the midfield. Especially Simic, Serginho and Gattuso have made some horrific passes in the last 15 minutes but nothing have actually developed into any specific scoring opportunities for Red Star. I can't ever see Milan drop this lead...
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 08:52 PM
I'm grateful!!!!!!!!
Now comes my usual defence bashing!!!!!!!!!
For God's sake isn't it only normal that the WINGER Serginho evolves defense-wise??? What the f@ck is he doing on that filed tonigh??? EVERY SINGLE sh1t Red Star have created is from the right side!!!!!!!! Have Mercy I want Janku in even if he don't have those Concorde runs down the flank ...
and I've said this before but sadly Costacurta must retire .. he's done two bug mistakes 'but' looks "solid" otherwise ...
where is my legendary Italian defense??? I'm not disgraceful to ask for another Maldini or Baresi but we need one more CB+LB+RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 08:55 PM
Great to hear that.
About the match, I have to say I'm very pleased. Their only chances came from our errors. Serghino doesn't look in form tonight. Pirlo and Cafu once again from the best. I hope we can keep this score in the second half though.
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 08:56 PM
Now comes my usual defence bashing!!!!!!!!!
For God's sake isn't it only normal that the WINGER Serginho evolves defense-wise??? What the f@ck is he doing on that filed tonigh??? EVERY SINGLE sh1t Red Star have created is from the right side!!!!!!!! Have Mercy I want Janku in even if he don't have those Concorde runs down the flank ...
and I've said this before but sadly Costacurta must retire .. he's done two bug mistakes 'but' looks "solid" otherwise ...
where is my legendary Italian defense??? I'm not disgraceful to ask for another Maldini or Baresi but we need one more CB+LB+RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It wasn't Costacurta! It was all Simic! Costacurta only made one mistake which wasn't that big of a deal anyways! He is leading the whole damn team!
But Simic and Serginho!!! OMG!! Ok, Simic just isn't even close to Milan-quality while Serginho is being used in the wrong place! He is doing great offensivley but he is destroying the defence!
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 09:02 PM
and why is that good??? there shouldn't be any errors against Red Star .. but I guess it's only the second game of the season ...
But Simic and Serginho!!! OMG!! Ok, Simic just isn't even close to Milan-quality while Serginho is being used in the wrong place! He is doing great offensivley but he is destroying the defence!well he has done more than one mistakes but anyway HE above all should respect his history; is it enough for him to be considered a sub??anyway this is not the place nor the time to discuss this.
Second Half Begins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Milan!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 09:06 PM
Din't i tell u to watch out for Cafu, Pippo and Seedorf...hmm the force is strong within me
Can't comment about Billy haven't seen the match...
Don't think Serginho can play on the team unless we switch to a 4-5-1 in which case he can play as a proper winger than a LB who forgets his way back.
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:09 PM
I didn't blame him, just thought he was injury
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:10 PM
Oh my god, what a tackle! Pls, Pippo, stand up!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:12 PM
Hix, Pippo should score the best goal of this CL
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 09:12 PM
omg, what a chance for Pippo
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 09:13 PM
another chance for Seedorf
Posted by: Captain Ambro Aug 22 2006, 09:15 PM
What a great start to the second half! This is truly Milan!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:18 PM
Kaka >> yellow card
Posted by: aaron Aug 22 2006, 09:22 PM
i hope we can get another clean sheet
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 09:22 PM
i din't know Kaka was yello carded...what did he do? Eurosport doesn't say anything.
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:24 PM
He hits his elbow to the RedStar player!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:27 PM
The host is not confident at all
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:28 PM
Max in, who out?
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:29 PM
Can sb remind me the scorer of the 1st leg?
Posted by: Minami Aug 22 2006, 09:30 PM
Inzaghi is out
He also scored in 1st leg
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 09:35 PM
inzaghi
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 09:40 PM
what's going on guys. Comooon - talk a bit!!!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:40 PM
Hehehe our no10's show
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 22 2006, 09:40 PM
I see 1-2 on soccerstand, whaaat's going ooon?
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:42 PM
give them 1 more goal for their unbeaten_home record, hehe
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 09:43 PM
Ok, I agree! Time for Costacurta to hang his boots!
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 09:43 PM
a mistake from Costacurta
Posted by: fresh_prince7 Aug 22 2006, 09:44 PM
I see the clean sheet just went.. :S
Well before those two goals were scored, I was going to say this is such a 02/03 champions league result for us. Just getting the business done..
Has gourcuff been brought on?
What happened with the goals?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 09:52 PM
bloody hell...why billy why??!!
Posted by: YoungGun Aug 22 2006, 09:53 PM
Ance should put the youngster in!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 09:53 PM
bloody hell...why billy why??!!
Posted by: aaron Aug 22 2006, 09:58 PM
wow 2-1 is a good results we are through
now let the signingspreeeeeee begiiiiiiin
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 09:58 PM
FT. 1:2 for Milan
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 09:58 PM
Alright...victory!!! Who do we face next??
oh and
BRING ON THE TRANSFERS!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Darunia Aug 22 2006, 09:59 PM
Onto the group stage... get Tevez!
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 10:06 PM
Great match, one of the best Milans I've ever seen recently. Pirlo man of the match IMO, he was superb. Red Star played like sh!t. No, worse than sh!t. Their goal came from mistake of Billy, he was a bit rusty tonight. Otherwise, our defence did good, very good. The midfield was fantastic and the attack... do I have to say anything? Take that Delija and whoever else, Marakana my @ss, we shut everyone up. Now's time for signings!
Don't forget we were playing with our reserve centrals. With Nesta and Kala there are no mistakes.
Posted by: m1ke Aug 22 2006, 10:09 PM
Good game! I managed to catch a steam. We didn't control the game as much as I would have liked, but we created quite a few chances and played reasonably well.
At least our summer of hell is nearly over - we can now look forward to a signing or two
PS. I thought Billy had a good game overall.
PPS. Well played Red Star - you kept going until the end and it's a shame we can't both be in the competition this year - I thought your fans were great.
Posted by: Warchant Aug 22 2006, 10:11 PM
definately a relief!
now onto getting this summer behind us and finally move onto the 2006/07 campaign!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 10:11 PM
Ok...about the defense I'll take ur word for it X-Offender. Pirlo really??!!! Oh what a surprise (Hope y'all noticed my avtar)
Man this is really cool...u see I had predicted a 2-1 and Cafu, Seedorf and Pippo rocking.(Plz fill me in on more about our RB ok...how was marcos today?)
So all those voices in my head are doing a good job...and here I was thinking it was my sanity going for a toss coz of the way our mercato was shaping up
Posted by: weeeow Aug 22 2006, 10:12 PM
OMG Gila looked sh!t tired when he came off! Superpippo aswell! Nice goal btw Kaka played very well and the same with seedorf. I disagree with people that Serginho played badly because he brought the pace into our game Gila and Pippo have to get fitter in order for them to score goals but not just them - the whole team!
All round brilliance though today
So now we've qualified for the Champions League we haven't lost the £10million from sponsorship deals, tickets etc. we can now focus on the transfer window
GRANDE MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!
FORZA SUPERPIPPO!!!!!!!!!
FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw sabotage sobis' move to santander (or wherever he is going) lol 
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 10:20 PM
Ok, it was a great game overall considering some of our players aren't fit yet and we were missing Nesta, maldini, Kaladze and Bonera through injury.
Dida(6): He had another solid game. I really hope he stays now. I have no idea what's going on about his contract...
Cafu(7): He was fantastic! He stole the show with his sprints down the right flank and he also contributed to defence!
Costacurta(5.5): Costacurta was having another solid game until he made that childish mistake and lost his cool in front of his own goal. But at 40, there is only so much you can do!
Simic(4.5): If it wasn't for all other players who covered for him, we would have been in trouble! I can say with confidence that Simic is an aweful player!
Serginho(5.5): Although he was great in offense, he was terrible defensive-wise. Especially in the 1st half!
Gattuso(6): He had a good game. Good assist. Good defensive work. But he mis-timed some of his passes. I think he could have done better overall if he tried just a little harder.
Pirlo(6.5): He had a very good game. His passes were presice and he controlled the midfield with his intelligent play.
Seedorf(7): What a player Seedorf has become over the years! I mean does he have technique or what? Ball Controll? It was like the ball was glued to his feet! Great game for him! He was everywhere and scored a wonderful goal!
Kaka(6): He had a fairly good game. It's obvious that he is not match-fit yet. But He still ran a lot for the team and except for a few mistakes, he did good.
Inzaghi(6.5): Inzaghi did what he does best and scored a crucial first goal for us. He was involved with every attack and he was as dangerous as ever!
Gilardino(5.5): Gilardino was marked heavily through out the whole match and was fouled too many times. Left and right, he was going down! But he could have still done much better. Just like Kaka, Gila isn't match-fit yet either.
Ancelotti(7): He got us through with that defense, now didn't he?
We are through! now I expect some great signings!
Posted by: ljuba1 Aug 22 2006, 10:22 PM
Great game Rossoneri! Good luck in CL this year. You were much better in both games. We will try in Uefa cup now.
Avanti Stella Rossa!!!
Posted by: KillerMax Aug 22 2006, 10:26 PM
Avanti Stella Rossa!!!
Good luck!
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 10:29 PM
the thing is he IS back but any defender that NEEDS 3 SECONDS TO GO DOWN AND TACKLE IS SH1T!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry fot that ... but my TV monitor is in the living room ...
well every chance they created came up from Serginho's mistakes ... last time I checked he was in the starting line-up!!!
well attacking-wise he was great - till he reached the opposite box where he unleashed a bunch of bad crosses - one of them pinballed and Pippo scored. Defense-wise he was great WHEN he was back but he was late coming back in 4 or 5 occasions two of which could have been goals against a more lethal opponent (mostly everyone we'll face from now on is more lethal than Red Star...).He will be a really great sub!
Review:
F@CK we're celebrating progression into CL ... this is lame!!! F@ck you Meani!!!!!
Anyway, we started off well, Serginho was lame they created some chances from his mistakes, we scored and the game was over; just playing ball possession after that.
Bajevic is a great coach, Red Star will be a good team in two years time but who cares?!!
Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Dida, Pippo were great
Cafu, Gattuso decent and the rest were ... yeah ... I won't comment on that.
I have to say I'm harsh though, I love all those guys in that field, don't get me wrong.
Oh and ... see? Boriello can be a very good fourth striker .. off with Amoroso. You saw him how he yelled "WHY WHY WHY" ???
thanks Milan
I expect Oddo to be anounced tomorrow!!!
...
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 10:29 PM
Amen to that pKiller Amen!!!
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 10:30 PM
Avanti Stella Rossa!!!
Good luck. Won't you ever come back here? you're just a Red Star fan???
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 10:32 PM
Actually I stayed awake coz I was expecting pKiller's ratings...and dst's comments. You guys never disappoint.Now all we need is han2503 to come in...where is he anyway??
oh and dst what did you mean shouting "why why why?"
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 10:34 PM
great performance overall, now it's time to bring in RONALDOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 22 2006, 10:36 PM
Yeah, but the biggest mistakes came from Costacurta. Serghino had a bad night, that's all... Now don't tell me he has always had bad nights dst.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 22 2006, 10:37 PM
arivanjj..here i was celebrating....why u gotta go piss in my champagne man???!!!
Just kidding bro...but if he does come, he better be good or ur gonna get it
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 22 2006, 10:41 PM
Just kidding bro...but if he does come, he better be good or ur gonna get it
sorry to put you outta the mood, but i know he's gonna be more than good.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 22 2006, 10:41 PM
Avanti Stella Rossa!!!
Maybe we will meet again next year...
Good luck!
For us rossoneri, it was the market opening match! Now, get into the thing, there is much to do and not many time. Bring on some of the players mentioned. We all know their names
Posted by: dst Aug 22 2006, 10:44 PM
some Red Star player hit him from behind while he (that player) had already kicked the ball away.Then Borielo turned on him like "Why, would you do that @sshole" but with only the "Why" part of it!!! Imagine Pippo yelling at the ref (when does he not?) but in a cooler way not so cry-babish!!!
hmm ... defensive-wise ... I honestly can't remember a good night for him
Posted by: misha Aug 22 2006, 10:45 PM
Finally this pre CL s*it is over 
Posted by: Costacurta Aug 22 2006, 11:17 PM
Oh I am so relieved we are through, and it bodes well that Inzaghi is still so lethal.
I am much disturbed by reports that Billy was not his usual wall-like self. Can anyone tell me where I can catch highlights of it, and whether it will require downloading lots of stuff?
Thanks.
and yes, time for the transfers now!
Posted by: han2503 Aug 22 2006, 11:43 PM
Ok. I'm gonna give out my ratings.
Dida: 7.5 - Was very solid, and even brave at times, and he couldn't do anything about that goal, so it was a good performance by him, again I'm glad that his nightmarish season has been put behind him.
Cafu': 7 - As someone said before he simply stole the show when he was making his runs, he was getting a bit tired in the end but thats to be expected. Plus he made some great interceptions and saved us from conceading 2 times.
Simic 4.5 - Made some good interceptions, but was making a lot of mistakes too. Simply put, give him to Lazio so we can get Oddo.
Billy: 6 - He was good and solid most of the time but made a crucial mistake that cost us a goal.
Serginho: 5 - Funny how we were discussing him just a few days ago and all the thing that we said wheren't his strong points showed a lot in this game. He was great for the attack as usual, but made some horrible mistakes, if it was a different team we were playing that was more lethal in front of goal we might not have won today because he made at least 3 errors that could have been 3 cheap goals for the other team.
Seedorf: 8 - All I have to say about him is that he had a very impressive game, I think he really is angered by the calciopoli incedent and it shows, he seems more determined then usual, and it's something that I like to see in him. And he scored a great goal.
Pirlo: 7.5 - Another great game by him, he was controlling the midfield and dictated the tempo of the game superbly, glad to see that he has kept his world cup form.
Gattuso: 6 - He started the game a little cagey and was making a few mistakes with his passing in the beginning but once he got into the game he was everywhere and winning a lot of balls back, plus he made a great assist for Pippo.
Kaka: 6.5 - Like Rino he started a bit slowly but once he got into the game he was getting involved a lot and making a lot of runs and passes glad to see him geting back into shape and regeining his form.
Gila: 5.5 - Like pkillermax said, Gila was being very tightly marked (I don't know why since most teams see Pippo as being more of the dangerman in front of goal) and was being fouled a lot. At times he was disappearing a bit but he was holding the ball superbly, did you see that part where there where 3 players sarrounding him and he still managed to keep the ball even when they where pushing him to the ground he was holding it between his legs, I was laughing when I saw that.
Pippo: 7 - Nothing to say about him, he was his usual self.
Ancelloti:7.5 - Managed to get us through with that defense and also in some style.
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 23 2006, 03:31 AM
Just came home and I only wanted to say that I'm very relieved right now, knowing that we're back in the big business. I hope we'll get the reinforcements we need now (not the fat man..PLEASE) Tommorow (thursday) we'll know which teams are in our group, my wish...give us Bayern Munich again!!!Pippo is waitng for them
Edit: Our great ex-player Rui costa also scored!
Posted by: Portikins Aug 23 2006, 06:37 AM
As we expected, we got trough.
The CL group stage draw is THURSDAY (tomorrow) at 17:00 (UK Time).
PS: Rui Costa score the 1st Benfica goal on the win vs. Austria Wien (3-0).
It was his first goal on the new Benfica's Stadium... everybody went wild! What a great goal it was (Rui's style)! » 
«- Grande Rui!
Posted by: arivanjj Aug 23 2006, 07:22 AM
The CL group stage draw is THURSDAY (tomorrow) at 17:00 (UK Time).
PS: Rui Costa score the 1st Benfica goal on the win vs. Austria Wien (3-0).
It was his first goal on the new Benfica's Stadium... everybody went wild! What a great goal it was (Rui's style)! »
«- Grande Rui!by any chance you have this goal? thanks
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 23 2006, 08:47 AM
Dida: 7.5 - Was very solid, and even brave at times, and he couldn't do anything about that goal, so it was a good performance by him, again I'm glad that his nightmarish season has been put behind him.
Cafu': 7 - As someone said before he simply stole the show when he was making his runs, he was getting a bit tired in the end but thats to be expected. Plus he made some great interceptions and saved us from conceading 2 times.
Simic 4.5 - Made some good interceptions, but was making a lot of mistakes too. Simply put, give him to Lazio so we can get Oddo.
Billy: 6 - He was good and solid most of the time but made a crucial mistake that cost us a goal.
Serginho: 5 - Funny how we were discussing him just a few days ago and all the thing that we said wheren't his strong points showed a lot in this game. He was great for the attack as usual, but made some horrible mistakes, if it was a different team we were playing that was more lethal in front of goal we might not have won today because he made at least 3 errors that could have been 3 cheap goals for the other team.
Seedorf: 8 - All I have to say about him is that he had a very impressive game, I think he really is angered by the calciopoli incedent and it shows, he seems more determined then usual, and it's something that I like to see in him. And he scored a great goal.
Pirlo: 7.5 - Another great game by him, he was controlling the midfield and dictated the tempo of the game superbly, glad to see that he has kept his world cup form.
Gattuso: 6 - He started the game a little cagey and was making a few mistakes with his passing in the beginning but once he got into the game he was everywhere and winning a lot of balls back, plus he made a great assist for Pippo.
Kaka: 6.5 - Like Rino he started a bit slowly but once he got into the game he was getting involved a lot and making a lot of runs and passes glad to see him geting back into shape and regeining his form.
Gila: 5.5 - Like pkillermax said, Gila was being very tightly marked (I don't know why since most teams see Pippo as being more of the dangerman in front of goal) and was being fouled a lot. At times he was disappearing a bit but he was holding the ball superbly, did you see that part where there where 3 players sarrounding him and he still managed to keep the ball even when they where pushing him to the ground he was holding it between his legs, I was laughing when I saw that.
Pippo: 7 - Nothing to say about him, he was his usual self.
Ancelloti:7.5 - Managed to get us through with that defense and also in some style.
What I like from all of this points above is Gilardino. Actually I shouldn't like, right?But I like, espacially the fact that he fights for the ball so much. This was his very good quality last year also. He'll score I believe. He still doesn't have Pipo's experience and doesn't realize his chances, but I believe in him. He can make it/
Posted by: florenti1 Aug 23 2006, 09:34 AM
I agree on Seedorf and i think he played perfect
I would give him a 10 and an 8 for Pirlo and Gattuso
They played perfect in miedfield and they have covered all the spaces
They have saved our defence and i think thats why i didnt heard mutch about Zigic in this match
I didnt like Kaka too much
He didnt play at his best but its probably because hes not fit yet
The team has played a good game
Posted by: Delija Aug 23 2006, 12:35 PM
I cant belive you fixed this game to. Refery was on your side. You should be a shame of Milan.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 23 2006, 12:38 PM
Oh maaan...face it u guys weren't good enough.....! you played well...u'll b a gr8 team in another 2 years. But u see you might have beaten Milan if you gave it your 5000% on any other day except this one.
Milan had to go to CL....did you see Seedorf, Cafu, Pippo....the Diavolo himself had possessed them.
Don't feel bad mate...you could have been a combination of Real and Chelsea and still lost 2-1....
Posted by: dst Aug 23 2006, 12:38 PM
when was that exactly????
You should be ashamed for calling us mafiosi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2006, 01:14 PM
What to say then goodbye and good luck...
Posted by: LaPalma Aug 23 2006, 01:14 PM
Haha! You're nothing but a bad loser, who relies on sterotypes because he has nothing else. The better team wins, and this time it was us... in both matches!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2006, 01:16 PM
You should be ashamed for calling us mafiosi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is my first "season" here, so to ask...is it often that other fans not related to Milan brake here in and provoke us, or is it just the Red Star fans?
Posted by: dst Aug 23 2006, 01:19 PM
No!! Just once a Juve fan broke in but it wasn't when we played them he just thought it was fun swearing ...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2006, 01:21 PM
So I guess it`s the Balkan mentality we are surounded in...Well, it was interesting to read what a RS fan tried to do...
Posted by: dst Aug 23 2006, 01:23 PM
yeah it must be that ... The giuve fan was greek as well ....
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 23 2006, 01:27 PM
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2006, 04:02 PM
To answer what that Red Star fan said (even though it's not directed at him), out first goal was offside yes, but you can't ignore the fact that the ref screwed uys over a couple of times too, Gila was clean through twice and was called offside both times when he wasn't and so was Pippo once. It was bad refereeing that's all no one was being favoured.
Posted by: Delija Aug 23 2006, 05:52 PM
if the firs goal was not goal we would play more offansive.
Posted by: florenti1 Aug 23 2006, 05:53 PM
I think this is only his opinion because i read on MILAN site that after the game all people in the stadium stand up to applaud rossoneri
And also Stojkovic was very fair play at the end of the match - he walked and shake hands with Galliani
Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2006, 05:58 PM
And also Stojkovic was very fair play at the end of the match - he walked and shake hands with Galliani
I think so too, but the refereeing in the game was bad. In our first goal rino was offside when he got the ball before he crossed it, but Gila was clean through twice and Pippo once but where called back for off side when they really where on side
Posted by: X-Offender Aug 23 2006, 06:00 PM
Yep, I think Red Star's fans in general were fantastic. I still don't understand who was that 'Mafiosi' thing addressed to. Cause if it was addressed to us, then they should be ashamed of theirselves cause we deserevd to play in the CL directly and not via the preliminary round.
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 23 2006, 08:53 PM
mafiosi, mafiosi!! What's so bad in that word
Posted by: dst Aug 24 2006, 03:53 PM
it's not the word, it's the way they said it ...
No really do you know what that means???
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 25 2006, 05:52 AM
No really do you know what that means???
Means Mafia .. But why would something like that disturb you dst .. ?
It is encrypted into the history of Italy; this 'mafiosi' (known as organized crime) .. But other than that, it is used widely around the world nowadays, especially Eastern Europe and Africa.
I think delija is just ignorant .. Or else he would be real stupid to say such a thing, cuz it has no materialistic meaning now ..
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 25 2006, 06:45 AM
Now it doesn't sound so bad does it...
Of course the Delija would think we were bullying them the way we played, and arrogant coz we are a big club...
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 11:27 AM
I know what it means ... and in that instant, because I know what it means I can't get it why you say it shouldn't disturb me??
what do you mean by that???
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:10 PM
No really do you know what that means???
dst, I know what mafiosi means, and one of my favourite movies is The Godfather
Don't worry mafiosi concerns to all Italians, and it's not only MIlan
if it was even TREVISO against them, and if Treviso beat them, they would call TREVISO - mafiosi.
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 12:18 PM
if it was even TREVISO against them, and if Treviso beat them, they would call TREVISO - mafiosi.
guys I know I'm not a 3 year old!!!!
I don't get you!!!! Do you find it normal that people call Italians mafiosi????
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:21 PM
Oh, really
cause they are mafiosi. It's more then normal, I'd say it's natural
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 12:25 PM
yes I'm a f@cking good ol' 5 year old!!!!!!!!!
I know it is funny in a way but it's not right thus we should dtop it!!!!
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:39 PM
ok
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 12:48 PM
OK then you may call Gattuso a mafioso if you like but only as a mamber of the 'Ndrangheta!!!! I'm sure he'd like it!!!
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 12:51 PM
And imagine if Tevez was heeeeere
Posted by: dst Aug 25 2006, 02:33 PM
the 'Ndrangheta were good and prestigious people while Tevez is just another filthy drug lord!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 25 2006, 02:36 PM
cause they are mafiosi. It's more then normal, I'd say it's natural
Think about it. It`s not that natural as it seems
Posted by: han2503 Aug 25 2006, 07:07 PM
I think that they put up that mafiosi thing because UEFA let us play because of the calciopoli thing, that's why they wrote UEFA in Milan colours as if to say that we bribed them
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 25 2006, 08:26 PM
It's soooooooooo natural, that u can't even think of it
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 26 2006, 03:25 AM
what do you mean by that???
I mean that it is history, this 'mafioso' ideology .. It is now called organized crime, the word mafia doesn't even hold weight anymore ..
Although organized crime is a reality that is still spreading throughout the world, the word 'mafia' is used just by ignorant people that consider it as bad as it seems.
Organized crime is implemented in the big stage of politics, business, etc .. It no longer holds the weight of deeming Italians 'mafioso' ..
Do u get me ? I know your not a kid, and I wasnt implying that.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 26 2006, 03:32 AM
It wasn't right for them to put up that sign, but then again who cares .. No one is complaining ..
Don't find it logical that we bridded UEFA for anything, seeing as we were proven innocent and it was only the act of a third party that we got the -8 points as punishment ..
.. If a team like Juventus was demoted to Serie B, then Milan could have gone down too if Galliani had been seated right next to Moggi. But if they think that Berlusconi had leverage because of his position (PM @ the time), then so could the Agnelli family seeing as they have been in Italy's elites even before Silvio Berlusconi was born and you can just imagine the amount of leverage that they possess ..
But what can you say, they are just ignorant to the fact that we bring in our results on the pitch
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 26 2006, 11:05 AM
It`s just another cliche, like many of them, but I would suggest to avoid them. Such national characterologies lead one to the other an result much confusion, if not bitterness and hostility. Belive me, it`s my faculty subject...
Posted by: dst Aug 26 2006, 12:38 PM
Although organized crime is a reality that is still spreading throughout the world, the word 'mafia' is used just by ignorant people that consider it as bad as it seems.
Organized crime is implemented in the big stage of politics, business, etc .. It no longer holds the weight of deeming Italians 'mafioso' ..
you obviously are not aware of the reaction Italians had when French (and others) called them mafiosi at the World Cup!!!!!
To call Italians a nation of criminals IS bad!!!!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 26 2006, 02:35 PM
To call Italians a nation of criminals IS bad!!!!
I am aware of the reaction .. I can see that you are reacting to it .. But believe it or not, its not just Italy that has to go through with this, many countries have organized crime ..
Thus, the term 'mafia' doesn't seem as bad as it did, I took this in Sociology class some 3 yrs ago. The actual word 'mafia' isn't as harsh as it used to be, on contrary it is only the ignorant that use it .. It just doesn't exist in that sense .. Right now, it is much more inbedded to your everyday politics and businesses .. Has nothing to do with a bunch of criminals
Ofcourse you'll be insulted by what it used to mean, but in our day and age; it isn't a reason to sue someone .. Do you get me ?
It is part of history, it's like a dis to a race or religion, like if you say 'Nazi' .. Only the ignorant use it .. You feel discomforted by it, but it is not a reason to go all out on the person, because bottom line they have no idea what it is they are talking about, basically not worth it, IMHO.
'mafia' .. They were saying that during the final, they must have been reacting to the calciopoli; again ignorance, they don't know the details just went for the simplest explanation.
Posted by: GULLIVER Aug 26 2006, 04:57 PM
Comon, people. calm down. mafiosi or not mafiosi, it really doesn't mean anything right now.
We are passed them. "mafia" had started in italy, so it mostly reffers to them.
Nothing special, calm down.
Posted by: dst Aug 26 2006, 06:36 PM
It is part of history, it's like a dis to a race or religion, like if you say 'Nazi' .. Only the ignorant use it .. You feel discomforted by it, but it is not a reason to go all out on the person, because bottom line they have no idea what it is they are talking about, basically not worth it, IMHO.
I absolutely understood what you're saying!!!
BUT don't you get it!!!?????????????????????
Who gives a f@ck what the word means!!!?? It does not matter; Red Star fans wrote "Mafiosi" and even if Italians know the exact f@cking meaning of that word they still know what Red Star fans mean; and that's CRIMINALS!!!!! the exact meaning is just for dictionaries, the way it's used itself is what counts in this instance!!!
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 26 2006, 10:55 PM
dst is very reasonable here...
This problem can be used on two different levels:
First, if we say that the word "mafiosi" is used to describe a national characterology in a insulting way. Then this word would be equal as other words like "nazi" or "nigger". Does words, in this shape are very powerfull, even if we have the context on mind.
Second, if we isolated this word and describe as only insulting, but not on the basis of a national characterology. The this word would not have it`s power and would just present a rude gesture.
I don`t know if were clear about this (argh.., English is just my third option language), but the bottom line is that it depends on our point of view. But dangerous words that are even more powerfull than the persons who speak about them should be let beside. Especially for foreign (in this chase not Italian) people.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 27 2006, 05:51 AM
@dst .. That's it .. Italians do know that they are ignorant .. But do you ? (That's what I'v been trying to say)
Basically, what i'v been trying to say (for the past 2 days ) .. Don't let it get to u, cz they have no idea what they are talking about .. just soar lossers
Posted by: dst Aug 27 2006, 04:29 PM
Basically, what i'v been trying to say (for the past 2 days
) .. Don't let it get to u, cz they have no idea what they are talking about .. just soar lossersI don't get you!!! really ...
Italians know that by Mafiosi Red Star fans meant criminals!!!! and this is insulting. Period.
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 27 2006, 05:38 PM
Italians know that by Mafiosi Red Star fans meant criminals!!!! and this is insulting. Period.
Living here in Croatia i`ve become very familiar with our neighbour Red Star fans (delije). Belive me, it`s their way of expression. It`s just a primitive way of thinking that should not be even concerned by us...
Posted by: dst Aug 27 2006, 05:56 PM
well here in Greece fans find it funny to shrill out abuses against players' mothers and stuff every Sunday as well so I'm kinda used to that kind of insulting behaviour ...
I don't hold anything against them delije or who they're called cause that's a common manner nowadays but still what they said is insulting, isn't it!!???
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 27 2006, 06:49 PM
Italians know that by Mafiosi Red Star fans meant criminals!!!! and this is insulting. Period.
No Red Star fans put up that sign to justify their defeat in the CL 3rd preliminary .. Had we played a team like Arsenal or Liverpool; we wouldnt even be discussing this
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 27 2006, 06:56 PM
I don't hold anything against them delije or who they're called cause that's a common manner nowadays but still what they said is insulting, isn't it!!???
Yes it is...but whe should not be insulted. The delije have made the same to every Croatian club they played against. They called us "ustase"(croatian nazis) and demolished the whole city after the game (by the way, they won 3-1..
). So the minuted I saw Milan is gonna play against them I knew it....
Posted by: Denis_prishtina Aug 27 2006, 07:32 PM
Hahahahaha why we have to loose time with this things , the only word is : " ARRIVEDERCI a Red star "
here is one image for Delije : http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plisatew7.jpg
Posted by: dst Aug 27 2006, 11:56 PM
they put it up before the game had even started ... and we didn't play Arsenal so that's why we're discussing it!!!!
anyway let's call it a day, it doesn't seem like we're to end somewhere!!!
oh thank God they did not lose!!!!
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