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post Apr 28 2017, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 24 2017, 01:05 PM) *
Then they're all wrong. Sorry, but you all are (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The guy could go to Arsenal (as looks likely now) and win the title and you'll find some way to discredit him.

And I'm bored arguing with you all about it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

PS I don't want Juve to win, I just have respect for Buffon and he personally deserves it. You know, that 18 year old's HERO? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The day he takes Arsenal to a title I'll eat a lemon...

And you can point out all the coaches who've had great successes with great teams all you like, but it still doesn't change OUR experiances with him as the coach of our Club. The idiocies I witnessed from him were astonishing, this is the man who played Urby f@cking Emmanuelson in the trequartista position, just because he could not deviate from a formation he likes. How anyone could defend his coaching while at Milan is beyond me

As for his time at Juve, he's had it easy from the word Go at Juve. and has barely had to use a single brain cell to do what he's done there.
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post Yesterday, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 28 2017, 11:07 PM) *
The day he takes Arsenal to a title I'll eat a lemon...

And you can point out all the coaches who've had great successes with great teams all you like, but it still doesn't change OUR experiances with him as the coach of our Club. The idiocies I witnessed from him were astonishing, this is the man who played Urby f@cking Emmanuelson in the trequartista position, just because he could not deviate from a formation he likes. How anyone could defend his coaching while at Milan is beyond me

As for his time at Juve, he's had it easy from the word Go at Juve. and has barely had to use a single brain cell to do what he's done there.


Wow, if you bit a lemon, IT would make the face!
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 29 2017, 01:07 AM) *
The day he takes Arsenal to a title I'll eat a lemon...

And you can point out all the coaches who've had great successes with great teams all you like, but it still doesn't change OUR experiances with him as the coach of our Club. The idiocies I witnessed from him were astonishing, this is the man who played Urby f@cking Emmanuelson in the trequartista position, just because he could not deviate from a formation he likes. How anyone could defend his coaching while at Milan is beyond me

As for his time at Juve, he's had it easy from the word Go at Juve. and has barely had to use a single brain cell to do what he's done there.


Actually he played more in "Messi position" and some were considering him more than decent as a Right Winger.
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post Yesterday, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2017, 11:22 AM) *
Wow, if you bit a lemon, IT would make the face!


You don't agree with what he's saying?

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Apr 29 2017, 12:21 PM) *
Actually he played more in "Messi position" and some were considering him more than decent as a Right Winger.


C'mon now buddy, let's not joke about it. Urby was abysmal, to say the least.
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post Yesterday, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 29 2017, 02:27 PM) *
You don't agree with what he's saying?



C'mon now buddy, let's not joke about it. Urby was abysmal, to say the least.


Sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And he could play in so many positions, LB, LCM, LW, RW, Trequartista and SS if we were in need.
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post Yesterday, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 29 2017, 12:27 PM) *
You don't agree with what he's saying?


Share the lemon buddy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Yesterday, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2017, 11:22 AM) *
Wow, if you bit a lemon, IT would make the face!

Too bad that day shall never come as Max will never win a title with Arsenal (heard it hear first)
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post Yesterday, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 29 2017, 04:09 PM) *
Too bad that day shall never come as Max will never win a title with Arsenal (heard it hear first)


*wins the UCL*

Han & X - 'it was the players wot done it' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

*loses a match*

Han & X - 'el oh el at Max' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Yesterday, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2017, 04:12 PM) *
*wins the UCL*

Han & X - 'it was the players wot done it' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

*loses a match*

Han & X - 'el oh el at Max' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If he wins the CL, I'll consider his time at Juve a success, but it still does not negate his utter failure with us
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post Yesterday, 05:50 PM
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Allegri starting line-up in 2015: Buffon; Litchsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Marchisio, Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal; Tevez, Morata.

Allegri starting line-up in 2017: Buffon; Dani Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro; Khedira, Pjanic; Mandzukic, Dybala, Cuadrado; Higuain.

Man, it must be so tough for a coach to win the league with such a poor selection of players.

Seriously, get real, Danny. Allegri has been steamrolling in Italy with the best team in the league, having either big-time chokers like Napoli or Roma as contenders, while Milan and Inter continue to delve into mediocrity.

His big achievement was the 2015 CL final. This time around he got dealt the easy hand, facing Porto, Monaco and a Barça side at the end of their cycle.

I will give him one thing, though. He has clearly changed mentality, as in he always wants to win regardless of the circumstances. That's a big plus for me. During his Milan days the guy was terrible in this aspect. Remember when Zlatan was about to assault him when he said in the dressing room that "the important thing is that we passed" after we had lost 3-0 to Arsenal? One of his many, many flaws back then.
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post Yesterday, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2017, 20:10 PM) *
Seriously, get real, X. Pep has been steamrolling in Spain with the best team in the league, having either big-time chokers like Valencia or Jose's Real as contenders, while Sevilla and Atletico continue to delve into mediocrity.

His big achievement was the 2009 CL success. This time around he got dealt the easy hand with a Utd side at the end of their cycle.


I could do this all night. It's my opinion X, I will respect yours even if I disagree with it. Just please don't insult me just because I won't come round to you and Han's way of thinking.

This, I swear, is my final ever post on Allegri. You won't get me discussing him on here ever again.

/peace out
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post Yesterday, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 29 2017, 05:16 PM) *
If he wins the CL, I'll consider his time at Juve a success, but it still does not negate his utter failure with us


Let's move on my friend.
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post Yesterday, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2017, 08:05 PM) *
I could do this all night. It's my opinion X, I will respect yours even if I disagree with it. Just please don't insult me just because I won't come round to you and Han's way of thinking.

This, I swear, is my final ever post on Allegri. You won't get me discussing him on here ever again.

/peace out


Who's insulting you? Rather, you're the one using ironic remarks while me and Han are trying to give our own two cents on the matter.
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Honestly don't know what you guys see in the man... Just baffling, especially after some of the embarrassments we've experienced with him as coach

Danny, I respect your opinions, you know that. I just don't understand why we can't have an adult conversation about Allegri. It's not like we're arguing here. I don't think it's as unhealthy a conversation as you think it is
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 30 2017, 12:20 AM) *
I will give him one thing, though. He has clearly changed mentality, as in he always wants to win regardless of the circumstances. That's a big plus for me. During his Milan days the guy was terrible in this aspect. Remember when Zlatan was about to assault him when he said in the dressing room that "the important thing is that we passed" after we had lost 3-0 to Arsenal? One of his many, many flaws back then.


I think that's the point Danny and I are making. The same way players improve, so do coaches. And Allegri has really gone up leaps and bounds since his days at Milan. I hate to say it, but the Milan experience and disappointments has actually made him a better coach. He's gotten better at handling egos, dealing with tactics, getting flexible etc. He's not a colourful personality but he's a damn good coach.


FWIW, I think Montella will only get better too. What we have to do is ensure to give him the kind of support so he can constantly innovate and do better. The amount of games he's got under his belt as coach for his age is really good. Not too often you get young coaches with a lot of experience.
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