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Fillipo Simone
post Aug 28 2014, 08:21 AM
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So now Bayern is the measure of things? A team with the Boateng-Dante duo and a Milan-age van Buyten? Really?
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post Aug 28 2014, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 27 2014, 11:09 PM) *
One defence conceded 39 and qualified for the CL. One defence conceded 49 and didn't.

Napoli are a better unit, not defence, the names they have in that area are laughable.

On the other hand we've been a mess for a while, we only started to do something in terms of team organization to help out the defence under Seedorf last season when we were far more compact and produced far better numbers.

Napoli's defence yesterday just made fools of themselves, that third goal was just idiotic

RE: Benatia, I still think he's good to ok, but he's certainly not a great or top class defender, don't kid yourselves, Roma's system made him look far better than he truly is and to show what a major and total pr!ck he is, he forced his way out to Bayern after Roma put him on the map. The key to having a great defence is having an even better midfield and Roma absolutely have that, same goes with Juve, look at the trio kurt used to hail so loudly of Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli for Italy, they look like bumbling idiots most of the time
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post Aug 28 2014, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 28 2014, 09:21 AM) *
So now Bayern is the measure of things? A team with the Boateng-Dante duo and a Milan-age van Buyten? Really?

Certainly says more than a CB not wanted by Villarreal and a CB not wanted by Valencia.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2014, 09:35 AM) *
look at the trio kurt used to hail so loudly of Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli for Italy, they look like bumbling idiots most of the time

Do they? At the World Cup defence was the last of Italy's problems, they couldn't score. At the Euros, it mostly fell apart when they played a back 4 and Chiellini went off.
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post Aug 28 2014, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 28 2014, 09:32 AM) *
Certainly says more than a CB not wanted by Villarreal and a CB not wanted by Valencia.


Do they? At the World Cup defence was the last of Italy's problems, they couldn't score. At the Euros, it mostly fell apart when they played a back 4 and Chiellini went off.

Chiellini is the only decent one out of the lot of them imo. Just look through the Juve forum, they absolutely despise Bonucci and aren't too happy about Barzagli either, and these guys probably watch them more than we do

And I beg to defer about the World Cup. The defending was an absolute joke, Chiellini kept making mistakes, Barzagli was so slow it was painful to watch and Bonucci is just Bonucci. I get that it was mostly down to Prandelli's constant messing about with the midfield/formation/tactics in every one of the games played, but all 3 contributed to the downfall as well, scoring goals was an issue, but so was keeping a clean sheet

And I disagree about the Euros, Italy looked their best in that competition when Prandelli utilised the diamond midfield vs England and Germany
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post Aug 28 2014, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 28 2014, 07:50 AM) *
I remembering to dare say I wanted us to sign him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I wonder why Bayern weren't interested in the chuckle brothers instead?


How nice of you to quote something I said nearly a year ago, when only a few weeks ago I considered Benatia as Roma's best defender and the only one who's good compared to the rest.
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post Aug 28 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 28 2014, 12:13 PM) *
Chiellini is the only decent one out of the lot of them imo. Just look through the Juve forum, they absolutely despise Bonucci and aren't too happy about Barzagli either, and these guys probably watch them more than we do

Juve fans rate Barzagli for the most part, I agree they aren't sold on Bonucci though.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 28 2014, 01:13 PM) *
How nice of you to quote something I said nearly a year ago, when only a few weeks ago I considered Benatia as Roma's best defender and the only one who's good compared to the rest.

Yeah, because that's the point I wanted to sign him and was told by a few people that he's not exactly that good. If you changed your mind on him recently, good.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 28 2014, 09:21 AM) *
So now Bayern is the measure of things? A team with the Boateng-Dante duo and a Milan-age van Buyten? Really?

Boateng isn't too bad imo, just inconsistent.

Dante is an absolute liability.
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post Aug 28 2014, 05:46 PM
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Juve always with an easy group, let's see how they f@ck it up this time
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post Aug 28 2014, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 28 2014, 04:21 AM) *
So now Bayern is the measure of things? A team with the Boateng-Dante duo and a Milan-age van Buyten? Really?


If Badstuber can get healthy and get a good run of games I think their best pairing might be Badstuber and Benatia.
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post Aug 28 2014, 09:47 PM
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Juve lucky, Roma pretty unlucky. As usual. One Italian club in the last 16. As bad as it gets.
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post Sep 4 2014, 02:16 PM
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post Sep 4 2014, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Sep 4 2014, 02:16 PM) *

How come Pippo is there but no other Serie A coaches aside from Benitez?
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 4 2014, 03:50 PM) *
How come Pippo is there but no other Serie A coaches aside from Benitez?


I was asking myself the same.
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post Sep 4 2014, 04:33 PM
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Not many from EPL either. Good.
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