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post Aug 4 2014, 02:01 AM
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It gets worse...

Now we're being linked to Pandev! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Aug 4 2014, 02:33 AM
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Worse, as in, relegated or worse, Trini? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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If Milan got relegated or worse, I'm going nowhere.


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post Aug 4 2014, 02:35 AM
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Yup, now that I think of it, signing Pandev is worse than relegation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Woeful player, at least these days.
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post Aug 4 2014, 04:13 AM
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The problem with keeping Balo isn't just the issues his attitude brings, but how can he be successful in this team? His value will only decrease.
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post Aug 4 2014, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 4 2014, 04:13 AM) *
The problem with keeping Balo isn't just the issues his attitude brings, but how can he be successful in this team? His value will only decrease.

If he has a good season his value will increase, regardless of what Milan as a whole does.

Let's not forget, last season, statistically speaking was his best season to date, playing in this Milan, the only thing that f@cked us over in terms of his value is the horrific world cup he and Italy had, which was unfairly blamed on him but it was expected, forget the fact that all the Juve players bombed big time as well
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post Aug 4 2014, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 3 2014, 05:02 PM) *
It is a fact if we know how a decision or strategy is made. Otherwise all we know is Galliani backed this coach or brought in this player. But ultimately such a decision is not his to make. There are others accountable primarily the owner and the board of directors. Galliani is the man who has all the strings, a man who knows football and its politics. They set the strategy and budget and he has to work through it.

And who's then to blame for singing players like Matri?

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But of course, history takes years to make and not bought. I mean Liverpool have not won the EPL in its new version. But still reserves the privilege along with United.
I am glade you referred to Bundesliga! The Germans were not always world champions nor European champions, whether at club level or national level. It took years to get to where they are. Their football governing body aided the rise of German football.
Now take a closer look at the FIGC and Italian government and tell me if they had done the same. Italy loosing its 4rd CL seating to the Germans is enough of an alarm for us.

I know very well how the Bundesliga functioned and how it reformed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) On the other hand we have Italy, as you mention, the government (which was for most years in recent time under Berlusconi) and the FIGC with the candidate we backed. Now tell me the Milan management stays in line of progress?


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Wage burden did not fly out of the sky, of course not. Why it is a point of discussion is because every time our revenue is reduced, we have to reduce the wages further. No CL/EL means revenues will be give or take 50M lower. How much of impact does that have on our wages? Well, inclusive of CL income, in 2013 we had a loss of 15M.

But why did the wage burden arise? Is management responsible?
Wage burden rose when Silvio no longer funds for the same (2010 onwards). Without that, we never were to acquire the top players who required top wages. Fast-forward to today and our wages need to be reduced even further.

And no, Muntari/Essian do not even form 1% of the wage outlay.

But now our wage burden does include Essien, Muntari and a couple of other players. Like you said it, we've gotta sell and release players in order to sign new ones. All I'm asking is, who gave Robinho a new contract, or Muntari? You think their contracts are a good thing for us?


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How is Galliani the sole person responsible? Isn’t he an employee of the club? The decisions he takes have to be pre-approved, because I have yet to see a CEO of a club taking a piss at the team, squad and its fans. And not fired? Its either we know too little or the club is such a joke that a man like Galliani can do such things.

No, Galliani is surely not solely responsible. But the way he behaves and the moves he's doing - they make him into a prime candidate for all the bad things around Milan.

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post Aug 4 2014, 11:53 AM
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Apparently we've opened negotiations with Liverpool, Balo could leave for €20 million, money which we'd invest in Cerci. Then our replacement for Balo would be Campbell on loan, if Wenger accepts.

Source: Mediaset

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post Aug 4 2014, 12:05 PM
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I'd rather stick with Balo then throw out 20 for Cerci and a loan deal.
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post Aug 4 2014, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 4 2014, 10:53 AM) *
Apparently we've opened negotiations with Liverpool, Balo could leave for €20 million, money which we'd invest in Cerci. Then our replacement for Balo would be Campbell on loan, if Wenger accepts.

Source: Mediaset

Shoot me, shoot me now...


MS Lies, Rodgers said last night he doesn't want Balo. And Wenger was on record saying Campbell 'will not' go to any club on loan.

What I AM hearing is we're trying to buy Campbell.
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post Aug 4 2014, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 4 2014, 11:53 AM) *
Apparently we've opened negotiations with Liverpool, Balo could leave for €20 million, money which we'd invest in Cerci. Then our replacement for Balo would be Campbell on loan, if Wenger accepts.

Source: Mediaset

Shoot me, shoot me now...

We'll shoot each other on the count of 3.

So far the media has been completely full of sh!t this summer, not one link has turned out to be true, The Cerci thing as far as I know is as dead as the rest of the rumours as we're not going to be spending that kind of money on him either. And Campbell is a winger as well last time I checked.

So I seriously hope they're wrong again. 20m for Balo would be reliving the idiocy of the Thiago + Ibra 2 for 1 deal we already went through, how much more stupid can Galliani get at this point? I get Balo is a hassle to deal with at times, but he's 10 times the player Cerci is, he's much younger and we could be about to sell him while his market value is at it's lowest! The level of this club's naivety in the transfer market during this past decade is just unbelievable . Galliani is no longer cut out for doing this job
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post Aug 4 2014, 09:58 PM
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Former Milan forward Giuseppe Marchioro says there is no future for the Rossoneri if things at the club stay as they are.

Pippo Inzaghi’s team have conceded 10 goals in three pre-season friendlies during their tour of the United States, scoring only once themselves.

“You can’t understand anything anymore, there is a confusion there and it is very difficult to get an idea,” Marchioro said of the team’s performances.

“The results in these friendlies show how much work there is to do to make up the lost ground.

“The truth is that the Milan squad is not of a high level and if it stays that way I can’t see a future.”

The 78-year-old also believes changes are needed off the pitch as well as on it at San Siro.

“I think that now even the directors don’t seem to have any more desire, they seem to have made peace with their conscience.

“Something needs to change there too, otherwise it will be impossible to see the Milan of 15 years ago again.

“A defender of an excellent level is missing, like De Vrij could have been, two midfielders and a striker that Milan do not have at this moment.”

http://www.football-italia.net/53475/march...ure-if%E2%80%A6

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post Aug 4 2014, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 2 2014, 07:47 AM) *
I'd rather you quit now tbh. Nothing personal, and you're entitled to your choice, but if you're even considering stopping supporting this Club you should do so now.

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I used to subscribe to this reasoning but "Milan" isn't playing/acting/doing business/having players even remotely resembling the "milan" I've grown to know and love. There comes a point (I'm not suggesting that I'm at that point) where the only things that make a club what it is are the colours and the logo. When that happens, you can't blame ppl for leaving

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post Aug 4 2014, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 4 2014, 06:52 PM) *
I used to subscribe to this reasoning but "Milan" isn't playing/acting/doing business/having players even remotely resembling the "milan" I've grown to know and love. There comes a point (I'm not suggesting that I'm at that point) where the only things that make a club what it is are the colours and the logo. When that happens, you can't blame ppl for leaving

Agreed, I can support them, to be sure, but as far as spending time on forums, buying merch, recording games, following the day-to=day, i expect to see a great decline. I refuse to pay more attention to the club than the management appears to. It's too negative. I'll be a milanista forever, but, to be honest, this is ridiculous....Negotiations for pandev? **** off! i'm through following this **** until the season starts

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post Aug 5 2014, 01:29 AM
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Too many of our fans expect the great Milan of old.

Sorry guys, but we're not that team any more.

Just like Marseille are not their great team of the late 80s early 90s. Just like my Rangers aren't the great Rangers of the 90s. Just like Ajax are not their great team of the 70s.

If you want success all the time, choose a new team every so often.

If you want to support a team, it's with you for life and stop whining about the darker periods - well, stop using them as an excuse to 'walk away'.

Too many fans spoiled by the Sacchi+ period and now can't handle this period.
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post Aug 5 2014, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE (drucurl @ Aug 4 2014, 09:52 PM) *
I used to subscribe to this reasoning but "Milan" isn't playing/acting/doing business/having players even remotely resembling the "milan" I've grown to know and love. There comes a point (I'm not suggesting that I'm at that point) where the only things that make a club what it is are the colours and the logo. When that happens, you can't blame ppl for leaving


Things change Dru. If you can't handle that change, then it is best you walk away.

We know this isn't the Milan we'd expect them to be, but support is through thick and thin, not just when they're 'good'.

Sure you can start loving during a great period, but support is when it's so entrenched in your veins you can't walk away when the drought periods happen.

It seems this forum is very divided on this.
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