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post Jun 22 2008, 04:15 PM
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:25 PM
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I won't mind the UEFA Cup along with the League. Yum, yum. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Another thing to add to our title list.
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post Jun 22 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 22 2008, 05:20 PM)
This made me laugh for some reason. Imagine us going to the final there again, even though it's not the CL I would still hope that we could win a final there. Or maybe the stadium is cursed for us
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I would not say it's cursed... Shee-va scored 4 there the season after the final. It's not cursed anyway... if I believed in God I'd say he fell asleep that night and did not even watch the game on replay... otherwise he would have certainly changed the result!

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post Jun 23 2008, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 22 2008, 03:37 PM)
I would not say it's cursed... Shee-va scored 4 there the season after the final. It's not cursed anyway... if I believed in God I'd say he fell asleep that night and did not even watch the game on replay... otherwise he would have certainly changed the result!

But... thank God I'm an atheist! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 4 2008, 11:16 PM
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Mediaset has placed a bid to the rights for exclusivity of the UEFA cup matches in Italy. Mediaset has never bid for such rights before, but as it seems, the Berlusconi family doesn't want Milan to be left alone, but at least followed by TV ...
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post Jul 4 2008, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 4 2008, 10:16 PM)
Mediaset has placed a bid to the rights for exclusivity of the UEFA cup matches in Italy. Mediaset has never bid for such rights before, but as it seems, the Berlusconi family doesn't want Milan to be left alone, but at least followed by TV ...
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Great news, hopefully they'll get the rights
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post Jul 8 2008, 02:15 PM
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Uefa Cup 'set for new name'

Football bosses set to overhaul 'second class competition'

The Uefa Cup could be on the verge of being re-branded.

It could soon be called the Uefa Europa League as football's bosses seek to give the competition fresh appeal.

European soccer's governing body Uefa is considering the name change as it seeks to reverse a feeling it has become 'a second class competition'.

The proposed name change was revealed by Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the acting chairman of the new European Clubs Association, whose organisation was presented with the proposal on Monday.

Refreshment
Rummenigge said: "The hope is that a refreshment of the name and brand can help achieve better results than we've seen in the Uefa Cup in the past.

"There has been a general impression that it has become a second-class competition and that we should get back to how it was ten or 15 years ago."

Uefa's executive committee is set to vote on the name change when it meets in Bordeaux in September.

Confirming the vote, a senior Uefa source added the new name was meant to better reflect the new group stage system being used in the competition from the 2009-10 season.

Copy

This new system is a direct copy of UEFA's more successful Champions League competition and will see the dropping of the unpopular five-team groups in which teams play each opponent just once either home or away in favour of a simpler home and away system.

In another lesson learned from the lucrative Champions League, UEFA will also be marketing the competition centrally from 2009.

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UEFA Europa League.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2008, 02:24 PM
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They can call it Pam's Boobs Cup and make her boobs the logo of it. Still nothing would change... it still would be thought of as a second-class competition cause simply that's what it is...

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post Jul 8 2008, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jul 8 2008, 01:24 PM)
They can call it Pam's Boobs Cup and make her boobs the logo of it. Still nothing would change... it still would be thought of as a second-class competition cause simply that's what it is...

And we're in it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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The European Cup is a 2nd rate competition nowadays. Apparently finishing 4th in a league makes you a "Champion" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'll not respect that competition again until only the holders + league winners are in it.. and maybe the domestic cup winners, otherwise it's stupid.
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post Jul 8 2008, 02:52 PM
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Agreed.. but the compatition seems to get better and better in the uefa cup.. or Pam's Boobs Cup.. or whatever each year. I mean in my view Bayern Munich was a very solid team last year and still couldnt win it. Granite they got eliminated by the Champions.
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post Jul 8 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 8 2008, 04:28 PM)
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The European Cup is a 2nd rate competition nowadays. Apparently finishing 4th in a league makes you a "Champion" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'll not respect that competition again until only the holders + league winners are in it.. and maybe the domestic cup winners, otherwise it's stupid.
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2nd rate? How is it second rate? It'd certainly be more fair if each country's champion team entered but then the quality would be significantly lower.
You said some time ago that you think the Euro is stronger than the WC cause in the WC there are more small teams...
Well I think this is the case here too... if only champions were allowed then the difficulty of the competition would be lower.
So when you talk about 2nd rate, what do you mean? Second rate in terms of quality? I totally disagree with you on that! If you mean second rate in terms oh how accurately the name of it the competition subscribes its participants then yeah...
But really... second rate compared to what? It's the competition in which the strongest teams of Europe take part? Does the name annoy you so much? What if it was called European Cup again, would anything change?

QUOTE (Jako19 @ Jul 8 2008, 04:52 PM)
Agreed.. but the compatition seems to get better and better in the uefa cup.. or Pam's Boobs Cup..  or whatever each year.  I mean in my view Bayern Munich was a very solid team last year and still couldnt win it.  Granite they got eliminated by the Champions.
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It is a very good competition in terms of quality and it's there that you I think you get to see more great matches but I do think of it as a not prestigious competition anyway...
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post Jul 8 2008, 07:31 PM
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I don't think the UEFA Cup will have to stay a 2nd rate competition. 10-15 years ago it was a highly respected and prestigious trophy.
And of course there's still a lot of big teams playing there. Not Champions League big...but this year it has Milan, Valencia, Samp, Sevilla and Hamburg.
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post Jul 8 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jul 8 2008, 02:35 PM)
You said some time ago that you think the Euro is stronger than the WC cause in the WC there are more small teams...
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And the Champions League is like the World Cup. Too many small teams, so I'm being consistant with my opinion. The old European Cup didn't have many small teams - only those that were fortunate enough to win their league title, that's why I prefer that format, that's all I'm saying.

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 8 2008, 02:35 PM)
But really... second rate compared to what?
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2nd rate doesn't mean you have to be 2nd best to something in my opinion. Like some would consider Celtic and Rangers 2nd rate teams, yet they're two of the most - if not THE most - succesful teams in the history of the sport.

QUOTE (dst @ Jul 8 2008, 02:35 PM)
Does the name annoy you so much? What if it was called European Cup again, would anything change?
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The name doesn't annoy me, I just think it sounds stupid.


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I don't think the UEFA Cup will have to stay a 2nd rate competition. 10-15 years ago it was a highly respected and prestigious trophy.
And of course there's still a lot of big teams playing there. Not Champions League big...but this year it has Milan, Valencia, Samp, Sevilla and Hamburg.
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I've always seen the UEFA Cup as a decent trophy. Look at some of the teams that've won it recently - Porto and Sevilla inparticular - and they're hardly crap sides. One nearly won La Liga, the other won the European Cup.
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post Jul 8 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 8 2008, 11:31 PM)
I don't think the UEFA Cup will have to stay a 2nd rate competition. 10-15 years ago it was a highly respected and prestigious trophy.
And of course there's still a lot of big teams playing there. Not Champions League big...but this year it has Milan, Valencia, Samp, Sevilla and Hamburg.
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Exactly. And don't forget the CL dropouts who'll join in after the group stages. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's no cigar, but I'll smoke it. Particularly now that Milan is in it this year.
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post Jul 9 2008, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 8 2008, 10:33 PM)
And the Champions League is like the World Cup. Too many small teams, so I'm being consistant with my opinion. The old European Cup didn't have many small teams - only those that were fortunate enough to win their league title, that's why I prefer that format, that's all I'm saying.
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Considering the number of teams that enter the final stage of the competition there's no doubt that it's as powerful as it gets. It's a fact that for example Moldova's champions are not a better team than Italy's / Spain's / England's 4th team...
The only way to increase the quality of the competition is to lessen the number of teams allowed to participate. Then only the truly great teams would be allowed to enter... but in my opinion the 36 that get in are rightfully there.
I still don't understand how you'd like things to be though. Would you care explain?

I really can't see why you say the CL is 2nd rate... it's the most prestigious competition and every single player longs to play in it... your own Barry said he wants Liverpool in order to play CL football. It surely is CL football he is after cause he does not have more chances to win the PL with Liverpool than he has with Villa... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for Celtic and Rangers, they are considered 2nd rate because their championship is considered 2nd rate, 1st rate being Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga.
Same for Ajax. They have won so many but still they are now low in prestige because the Dutch league is comparatively weak.

QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 8 2008, 10:35 PM)
Exactly. And don't forget the CL dropouts who'll join in after the group stages. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's no cigar, but I'll smoke it. Particularly now that Milan is in it this year.
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This is one of the reasons I don't rate the UEFA Cup... it's like... OK you are not good enough for the CL... so we send you to the UEFA Cup...
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