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post Jun 4 2017, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 4 2017, 10:50 AM) *
You can't be serious. Outstanding in what? He was invisible. Did absolutely nothing for a player of his calibre.


I am serious. He was probably their best player. Constantly on the ball and weaving through the Real outer defence. He faded badly in the second half mind you. As did they all.
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post Jun 4 2017, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 3 2017, 10:59 PM) *
Many would argue any team other than Bayern, Real, Barca or Atleti getting to the UCL final is, in itself an overachievement.

Disagree, I think Juve's squad is on the same level as at the very least Atletico and Barca (who have been a disaster defensively all season). Bayern and Real might be a level above but I disagree that they over-achieved this season. They have a great squad, including the best defensive line in the competition imo

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Juventus choked once again...they have lost the most CL finals ever and madrid have now won the most...

all in all alot of negatives the plus is we will have a 4th spot in CL again right.?

Yes
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post Jun 4 2017, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 4 2017, 11:24 AM) *
I am serious. He was probably their best player. Constantly on the ball and weaving through the Real outer defence. He faded badly in the second half mind you. As did they all.


Constantly on the ball doing nothing. For someone who's arguably Juve's best player, Dybala's performance was completely lackluster, so much so in fact that he was subbed.

Him, Pjanic and Higuain, the three that were supposed to make the difference, were invisible. Compare that to Modric, Isco and Ronaldo's performances, and you get the picture.

Juve's best performer was by far and large Mandzukic.
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post Jun 4 2017, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 4 2017, 07:28 PM) *
Constantly on the ball doing nothing. For someone who's arguably Juve's best player, Dybala's performance was completely lackluster, so much so in fact that he was subbed.

Him, Pjanic and Higuain, the three that were supposed to make the difference, were invisible. Compare that to Modric, Isco and Ronaldo's performances, and you get the picture.


Juve were by far the better side in the first half. Had far more of the ball and did more with it. Not sure how you rated any of those three as better than Dybala but then it's all about opinions and we've more pressing issues to deal with than who was better last night.

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post Jun 4 2017, 08:38 PM
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From the highlights it looked like Juve had the better chances in the 1st half and then Real completely turned the tables on them in the 2nd

So that's probably the reason for the differing perspectives

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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 4 2017, 08:14 PM) *
Juve were by far the better side in the first half. Had far more of the ball and did more with it. Not sure how you rated any of those three as better than Dybala but then it's all about opinions and we've more pressing issues to deal with than who was better last night.


Far better side? I'd say in the first half they were on equal terms. Obviously in the second half Madrid showed what they're really made of and Juve just crumbled altogether. Ronaldo and Modric were the best players of the game, Isco was great as well. Can't see how you can even compare Dybala's performance to theirs.
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post Jun 5 2017, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 4 2017, 08:38 PM) *
From the highlights it looked like Juve had the better chances in the 1st half and then Real completely turned the tables on them in the 2nd

So that's probably the reason for the differing perspectives


Real became UCL Real in the second half while Juve had a meltdown. Equally conceding two deflected goals knocked them out.
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post Jun 5 2017, 11:06 AM
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7 CL titles - Milan
7 CL final defeats - Gobbi

All I'm gonna say. That's the way Max (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 5 2017, 03:06 PM) *
7 CL titles - Milan
7 CL final defeats - Gobbi

All I'm gonna say. That's the way Max (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I thought juve had this in the bag due to having a exp squad but damn did they screw that 2nd half up... Zidane is quite the manager..
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post Jun 5 2017, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Jun 5 2017, 02:38 PM) *
I thought juve had this in the bag due to having a exp squad but damn did they screw that 2nd half up... Zidane is quite the manager..


And yet remains unpopular with supporters. He's had an astonishing debut season in management, arguably the greatest ever for a rookie, and yet he still isn't the popular choice with fans.
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post Jun 5 2017, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 5 2017, 07:06 PM) *
7 CL titles - Milan
7 CL final defeats - Gobbi

All I'm gonna say. That's the way Max (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 5 2017, 03:33 PM) *
And yet remains unpopular with supporters. He's had an astonishing debut season in management, arguably the greatest ever for a rookie, and yet he still isn't the popular choice with fans.

Honestly, what more could the Madrid fans want FFS? Best team in the world, play great football and they get the results as well.

They must be getting board of winning, that's why they try to find little things to nit-pick and complain about
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