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Posted by: han2503 Nov 24 2010, 05:55 PM

Let's keep the good times rolling

Posted by: William405 Nov 24 2010, 06:55 PM

2nd post reserved ^^.Maybe it will help with luck and shiz.

Anyway,I hope Ibra will be rested.Dinho with Robinho partenrship and NO GATTUSO.

Posted by: samira Nov 24 2010, 07:22 PM

So do I and hope that Dinho is really hungry after that all benchwarming.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 24 2010, 07:39 PM

A Dinho Robinho attack worries me, it won't contain a focal point to play off of, since both like the wings and tend to go deep

I agree that Ibra has to be rested, though is it smart to do it against Samp, they are no walkover....

Anyways my team if Pirlo is not ready, which according to Gazzetta looks to be the case



If it's not working throw in Ibra for any one of the 3 in attack. But Boateng and Flamini in that midfield will give us the push we need while still maintaining defensive balance

However this is what Allegri will play

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 24 2010, 08:18 PM

Aye, i would rather see KPB get the start over Rino, Ibra will have to start even tho he needs a rest, i cant see Robbie playing lone upfront supported by Dinho and Seedorf working very well, but we will see.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 08:30 PM

I predict a very difficult game, and I wouldn't be surprised if we draw or lose. Samp at home are always a difficult team. I really, really hope Pirlo gets back for this one, and please, NO GATTUSO!!!

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 08:31 PM

By the way, why are we playing on Saturday at 6PM? We have no midweek games next week. Stupid Lega Calcio.

Posted by: William405 Nov 24 2010, 08:48 PM

If Seedorf is tired then I'd take the chance and play Merkel or Verdi.It couldn't hurt really.

Will Antonini be back?Also,it's silly that Pirlo is injured for that long.I thought it was a "minor injury".

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 09:00 PM

LOL, you still keep up with that? Merkel or Verdi won't play a single official game with us this season, sans maybe some Coppa Italia game.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 24 2010, 09:50 PM

It was minor, before he was pushed in to play a stupid friendly against Romania

Also, you really want to play a Primavera in this one?? I don't know why some people think this will be an easy tie. Samp are a very difficuilt team, especially at home as X-off pointed out. Next week we don't have any midweek fixtures so I guees it's ok to start a full strength line-up. My only worry is Rino playing in a 3 DM midfield and Ibra playing another full 90, he's tired, so tired that he requested the sub himself yesterday, that's why I think he should be rested, we cannot risk Ibra getting injured

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 10:22 PM

And we play whom instead of him, exactly?

Posted by: William405 Nov 24 2010, 10:33 PM

X-Offender:You can only wish ;p

Han:Samp haven't convinced at all this season,apart from their draw against Inter and that wasn't a big accomplishment after all.I think,we're going to win this if Samp don't pull a good performance,and as you said they're tough at home so maybe.That's why I suggested to throw in a primavera to give a bit of spark to our team,Merkel showed great skill in the pre-season,and I bet he can do it with great desire against Samp,but I'm pretty sure it won't happen.

Off-topic:The only reason I'd give Rafael Benitez a chance at inter is because he has tried to incorporate youth into the first team.He made it work with Coutinho and he's trying with Biabiany who imo is still average.Like it or not,he's trying something new and injuries has screwed him over so far.Why can't we throw in a youth to our formation from time to time.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 24 2010, 10:48 PM

Well that's where the problem comes in. But the question is do we start Ibra again and let him stay on practically all game and risk him pulling a muscle that could potentially put him out for weeks just so he could play in one game?

Best option is to start him, hope like hell that we have a lead by HT and put Dinho on instead, other then that we don't really have an option

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 10:52 PM

Jesus, when did we become so pretentious? Only a few weeks ago we were resigned to another crappy season, and now we wanna play primavera kids and bench Zlatan against Sampdoria??? Seriously, do a reality check.



The only reason Bentiez is playing the primavera kids is because he has no other alternatives. Have you taken a look at Inter's injury list? Did you take a look at their bench tonight? If Inter had all players available, or if they'd signed someone this summer, players like Coutinho and Biabiany would have barely seen the pitch.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 24 2010, 10:54 PM

We have a free week after Saturday's game, no? He can rest then.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 24 2010, 11:00 PM

He won't be rested in this game for sure. Sampdoria is always tough to beat away.

We have only 5 games till the big winter break while one of them against Ajax in the CL in which he won't play. So only 4 games to suck it up for Ibra.

Posted by: Linkman Nov 25 2010, 12:58 AM

Or one game and a 6-month injury. Your call.

I'd rather risk dropping points against Samp than losing Ibra. Of course, this entire situation could have been avoided if Allegri had subbed out Ibra towards the end of our easier games, but alas...

Ronnie-Robbie, with Zee behind them is hardly a bad striking formation, despite what you guys say. If we are having problems, Ibra can play, but if the must play one half, it should be the second, not the first. That way he faces a tired defense rather than a fresh one.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 25 2010, 01:01 AM

Ibra plays this game, has a week of rest, plays next Saturday and has another week of rest. He's a big boy, play him.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 25 2010, 01:53 AM

+1

You people are just making a big fuss out of nothing. It's not like the rest of the squad isn't tired.

Posted by: amancik Nov 25 2010, 07:16 AM

Agreed, I for one would like to see how Ronaldinho and Robinho play together. If it doesn't work, throw Ibra in, we all know he can create something out of nothing. The odds of Milan winning is better now since Cassano can no longer play for Sampdoria.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2010, 09:02 AM

Ibra has probably played the most minutes from all the outfield players. It might be a big fuss out of nothing since you can't predict these things, but it only takes one awkward stretch and Ibra could be out for a month, he's had a week to rest before during international break, and he's still saying that he's very tired. Maybe Samp is the wrong time to rest him. We'll see what happens

We have Samp, Brescia, Bologna and Roma coming up before the winter break plus a CL game, and 2 Coppa matches in between

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 25 2010, 11:24 AM

Well, I except Milan to field a B-side against Ajax. We secured second, can't top Real, so I hope we'll see the reserves. The Coppa games, at least one of them - should also be used to rest Ibra.

But I agree, he's been played over and over and I think Allegri should rest him a bit; if he gets injured, we'll be in a very bad situation.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 25 2010, 02:15 PM

The thing with Zlatan is: we cannot and should not want to play without him. Zlatan better not be included in the Ajax match squad. Not even on the bench. Against Sampdoria Zlatan needs to start. Hopefully we are leading in 2nd half so we can rest him by subbing in Ronaldinho. Starting this game without Zlatan is no option IMO.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 25 2010, 04:33 PM

What the hell??? We cannot rest Zlatan against Sampdoria! Guys, we're not playing Lecce, Brescia or Bologna, but S-A-M-P-D-O-R-I-A, one of the most difficult teams to face away. If Zlatan doesn't play, we can forget about the 3 points. Rest him next week against Brescia or Bologna, but definitely not this game.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2010, 05:55 PM

Well none of us are saying start without him. I'm saying we hope like hell that we have a lead by the 2nd half so we can take him off.

Still I think he needs a full game's rest, we have Samp coming up this weekend so it's not really an option, but Allegri should really consider it against Brescia or Bologna. However if we play without him and a 3 DM midfield then we can really forget about the 3 points since when we play that system our only tactic is to launch balls to him hoping he does something with it, something that cannot be done with Dinho and Robinho up front

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 25 2010, 05:58 PM

Without Ibra, I'd play us like this:

Definitely an option to consider for next week's game.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2010, 06:03 PM

Robinho alone upfront?

And that midfield would be a necassity, everything would have to go through it, as opposed to it being bipassed like when Zlatan is playing

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 25 2010, 06:12 PM

We have no one else.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 25 2010, 06:17 PM

I would play 4-3-1-2 with both Ronaldinho and Robinho up front then. Ronaldinho's finishing might be better than Robinho's at the moment. Our last goal was Robinho to Ronaldinho, both were up front.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 25 2010, 06:33 PM

LOL, the fact I put Ronaldinho next to Seedorf doesn't change much. 4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1 doesn't change much with that set of players.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 25 2010, 07:21 PM

It depends... A 4-3-2-1 could either mean Ronaldinho playing that old Kaka role, where he played off Gila or Pippo, or Robinho could be played as a lone striker with Dinho and Seedorf both behind him acting as attacking mids, thus having Robinho more central, where he could have trouble.

Posted by: Bluesummers Nov 26 2010, 01:02 AM

LOL ronaldinho as striker?


You can put him in any formation you like it will not change his play style. He'll still want to stay on the left and drift into the middle.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 26 2010, 07:39 AM

BTW Ibra, Pirlo and Ambro are one yellow card away from an automatic one game suspension. After Sampdoria, we are playing against Brescia at home so this is a good time to get suspended for, especially for Ibra

Posted by: amancik Nov 26 2010, 08:04 AM

Will be Pirlo be back for this game?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 26 2010, 03:45 PM

mediasetsport have him in the probable line-up while Gazzetta don't...

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 26 2010, 03:53 PM

Allegri On Pirlo

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130950

No Andrea, but as Allegri says in rest of press conference, we have "managed" without Andrea thanks to Ambro even tho he plays the position differently.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 26 2010, 03:54 PM

The Gazzetta one doesn't even have Pirlo on the bench. I won't expect Pirlo to start this match. I like the one Gazzetta had:

Robinho, Ibrahimovic
Seedorf
Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso
Zambrotta, T.Silva, Nesta, Abate
Abbiati

bench: Amelia, Bonera, Yepes, Jankulovski, Strasser, Boateng, Ronaldinho

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 26 2010, 03:57 PM

Feel this is going to be a really tough one.

I will take a boring, no flare, no shine performance and a hard fought 1-0 win thank you very much!!!


But....we will see

Forza Milan!

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 26 2010, 03:58 PM

Are my posts invisible?

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 26 2010, 04:00 PM

Yes


For Gott's sake my post came 1 minute after yours.

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 26 2010, 04:02 PM

Im just messing with ya CHU

Posted by: samira Nov 26 2010, 04:57 PM

Allegri switching from 4-3-3 to a 4-3-1-2 is the foundation of our newfound success..
Ronaldinho should be out. It's hard to say this, but Milan has not missed a beat so far with Robinho taking Ronnies place..
what happened to Merkel? Why hasn't he been given a chance yet?

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 26 2010, 07:43 PM

20 Man Squad for Samp match.

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130957

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 26 2010, 09:01 PM

Question: why is the matchday set a 17th?

Posted by: Bluesummers Nov 26 2010, 10:48 PM

Merkel is too young.

If strasser and Odu aren't given time; there is no way merkel will be.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 12:31 PM

Probably hit the 1 instead of 2. I'll change it

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 01:09 PM

I'm glad Pirlo's not playing. A lot of fans tend to see certain players for who they were instead of who they are now (I fall into this category as I'd insert Ronaldo into ANY starting lineup )

BUT the thing is Pirlo isn't THE Pirlo we once knew. His passing would be more fitting if our wingbacks and strikers made the type of runs that would have made his long passes relevant (See our first game this season). But as we are now iHomo likes to take the ball and work his way in, with a few short exchanges with Seedorf of Robinho.....and as much as I don't like Zlatan.....IT HAS WORKED! Zlatan struggled at Bartha mainly because he isn't the typical CF with the typical cf instincts and needs time with the ball at his feet.

The only player that's going to run into the spaces that would make Pirlo's passing useful is Robinho. Otherwise it's going to be a bunch of sideways and silly dangerous backpasses.

When Pato comes back, I'd have liked to see a 4-3-3 with Pato-iHomo-Robinho, supported by -Flams/Ambro-Pirlo-Boat-. I think that lineup could play some very exciting and beautiful football rather than grinding out the wins with blue collar performances as we've done. Pirlo will be able to use all of his skills and sexy passing galore.

Posted by: arivanjj Nov 27 2010, 01:47 PM

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 02:01 PM

I'm with ya, brother! Ronaldo for me starts into any eleven too! Timeless player, that!


Oh yeah! Oh hell yeah!

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 02:14 PM

A big no! 4-3-1-2 is how we should always play.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 27 2010, 02:19 PM

I don't know what you're talking about drucrul, Pirlo has been immense this season, he's played brilliantly for us and also most of the time left alone to defend and push the opposition away from our defense. His passing is great as always, he creates so many oppotunities, I don't know what the problem would be.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 02:22 PM

Agreed. The "Pirlo isn't THE Pirlo we once knew" argument is too stereotypical and I'd except that from someone who doesn't watch Milan regularly. Anyone who's seen every Milan game this season would recognize that Pirlo has been GREAT, so far.

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 02:35 PM

Anything else you'd like to decree?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 02:43 PM

Personally I cannot wait for Pirlo to be back so we can finally see this stupid 3 DM system put to rest and we can play some football instead of "Punt it up to Ibra"

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 03:16 PM

Anything that's obvious, yes.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 03:19 PM

Latest developments: Boateng in, Flamini out; Bonera in, Zambrotta out.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan/?action=read&idnet=bWlsYW5uZXdzLml0LTM5Njk1

Why not Gattuso FFS???

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 03:23 PM

What time do we start (actually considering getting out of bed and making the long, arduous journey to the tv)?

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 03:27 PM

riiiiight

Clearly leo died and made you Allegri . Anyway poor little Cassano would be looking on considering where oh where to take his beautifully messed up talents

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 03:29 PM

Game starts in 2 hours and a half.



Clearly.

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 03:35 PM

LOL a sense of humor....me like

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 27 2010, 03:57 PM

Merkel is better than Odu. So there's a reason, but it doesn't seem very likely youth will get many minutes in Milan.


Agreed.

Pato fits better in a 4-3-1-2, and Zlatan fits in then also. Since we don't start Ronaldinho, since teams not build around him, there's no reason to go back to 4-3-3. We've been doing very well with 4-3-1-2, we should keep it.


Just like the nonsense people are talking about how Gattuso isn't his former self. Annoying, alright.


I don't like to see Bonera as left back. Why not Jankulovski then?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 04:04 PM

It actually applies in that case. Rino is not even a shadow of his former self, and this coming from a big fan of Rino who has watched him throughout his career at Milan.

This Rino is a liability more then anything else, the only thing he still has left is heart, but that won't help him any when he comes up against teams like Real and Inter, where he has failed miserably

Pirlo is younger, has just turned 30 and doesn't really rely on his physical game like Rino does, who's entire game is based on running and hassling opponents, something he can't do anymore.

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 04:07 PM

I don't understand why?Is allegri preferring Bonera over Zambro or is Zambro injured?

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 27 2010, 04:11 PM

I meant to say it's annoying people compare players to what they used to be. Gattuso is performing very well this season, just not everyone notice this. Gattuso can't run, hassle opponents anymore? Really? Are you watching tapes of last season instead of this season's games? Having flashbacks?

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 04:16 PM

Well,I can admit if we use Gattuso in his Dm position sitting in front of the defence,then he can succeed there,but now we have Ambro who is better than gattuso at that and can attack so yes Gattuso hasn't been good enough and won't be this season to become a starter in my view at least.

Posted by: vahid Nov 27 2010, 04:53 PM

MILAN: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Bonera; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Boateng; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.
SAMPDORIA: Curci; Volta, Lucchini, Gastaldello, Ziegler; Mannini, Palombo, Tissone, Guberti; Pazzini, Marilungo.

WTF,Bonera is our LB

Posted by: Darunia Nov 27 2010, 05:20 PM

Flamini should be there instead of Gattuso, I'm guessing Zambro picked up a knock or something? Flamini's been one of the reasons for our winning streak =/. Glad to see Boateng get another start tho

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 05:56 PM

Can't believe he dropped Flamini!! FFS!!

Rino shouldn't be aywhere near that line-up!!!!

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 05:58 PM

At least Allegri isn't predictable?

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:00 PM

It think he's very predictable, his infatuation with always playing Rino, making the same subs in every game and always at the exact same time.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:11 PM

nice whistling by their fans

Posted by: m1ke Nov 27 2010, 06:17 PM

I'm really impressed with our work rate so far...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:17 PM

Seedorf is really not in this one

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 06:27 PM

horrible mistake fromNesta

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:30 PM

we need to be careful about counters

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:30 PM

Nesta looks very tired

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 06:32 PM

WELL DONE SILVA

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:43 PM

ahh wish someone else got that chance

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:45 PM

excellent by robinmho and ibra

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:45 PM

ROBINHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 06:46 PM

Robinhooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:48 PM

HT

Decent first half, but we really look devoid of ideas going forward, Seedorf has been really struggling to get into it.

Nice play from Ibra and Robs for the goal though

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:49 PM

HT 1-0 up good half by everyone imo... silva,abate have been the best in defence cant say about attack and midfield but all did well

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 06:50 PM

Robinho has been great in this half.Ibra saved our asses again.

Dinho in the place of Seedorf,and Flamini instead of Gattuso.

We've been able to control the midfeild really well,especially with Ambrosini.Great half for him too.

Also,Abate is becoming better and consistent.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 06:54 PM

i to am very impressed with abate was never his fan specially as RB and actually bonera has done ok as well considering that he is playing so much out of position

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 06:55 PM

Agree with you on all fronts

Posted by: Suhail 3 Nov 27 2010, 07:01 PM

I dont know if its just me but i love when robinho runs into spaces and dribbles around the opposition trying to engineer a chance, such a creative genius

great goal

Forza Milan

Posted by: İSTANBUL MAMO KEBAB Pİ Nov 27 2010, 07:06 PM

Giuseppe Meazza, dopo aver visto la partita giocata in una bella, bella turchi e un ristorante italiano, se si vuole mangiare pulito e di alta qualità che ci si aspetta a PİZZA'ya ISTANBUL KEBAB Mamo. Dopo il match, perché tutti ci sarà. Indirizzo: il mercato di fronte Esselunga. Forze Armate strada, a 1,5 km dallo stadio Giuseppe Meazza. telefono: 02 3952 1492
ISTANBUL KEBAB PIZZA Mamo non ti fare.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:07 PM

Dinho and Flamini warming up, hopefully coming on for Rino and Seedorf

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:16 PM

i think we need to make some change in midfield now

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:17 PM

Did Boateng start?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:17 PM

1-1 it was coming

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:19 PM

Bonera really messed up the offside trap

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:20 PM

Pazzini, 1-1

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:21 PM

bring dinho and flamini on ffs

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:22 PM

Make the changes FFS

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:24 PM

pozzi ex milan i think

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:27 PM

Great save Abbiati

We're asking for it!!

Make the changes!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:27 PM

we need to make the chage what is this wait for we look so lost in attack

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:28 PM

We are deflated after Samps goal

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:29 PM

Typical from Allegri! Waiting for Ibra to pull something out of his @ss before making a move

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:32 PM

Abbiati just saved another shot on goal
Pozzi would have loved to score that header, he's an ex Milan player

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:34 PM

ffs seedorf that was the chance perfect by ambro

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:34 PM

What a miss from Seedorf !!! FFS!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:35 PM

change something man this sucks

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:36 PM

Almost 80 and still no changes

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:37 PM

Seedorf misses a golden chance!!! Switch Ronnie for Slowdorf Allegri!!!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:39 PM

No Robinho!!!!

CROSS IT!!!

Posted by: Coldest Nov 27 2010, 07:43 PM

Allegri's miserable...

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:44 PM

He's an idiot as well

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:48 PM

Flamini coming on

LOOOOLLL

What's the point????

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:48 PM

Dinho as well!!! Bigger LOOOLLL

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:49 PM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
Who wants to shoot me? I said SEEDROF not Boateng and poor Ronaldinho ..
Also subbing in Ronaldinho in the 90th is an insult. Bad move by Allegri. Even the commentators acknowledged

Posted by: Coldest Nov 27 2010, 07:49 PM

Well done, Max... It's perfect time for subs.

Posted by: Linkman Nov 27 2010, 07:49 PM

Ronaldinho is definitely leaving in January.

I mean, I don't think any player of his caliber would take this bullshit.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:51 PM

That's a draw. It was coming, all it took was a team that could actually attack!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:52 PM

FT

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Nov 27 2010, 07:53 PM

FT 1-1 we should have won thanks to max and seedorf missed chance ambro imo was the best player

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 07:54 PM

Did Allegri fall asleep???!??? What the crap just happened? Seedorf was sucking wind at min 60! WHAT ON EARTH DID I JUST WATCH? Terrible coaching! Absolutely miserable! I can't even believe what I just saw! I'm so frustrated with that man its a miracle I can type legibly right now!

Posted by: Darunia Nov 27 2010, 07:55 PM

2 subs in the 90th minute? Seriously, it was obvious to anyone those subs should have been made right after Sampdoria scored. We dominated the last 10-15 minutes though, unfortunate not to get a goal.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:55 PM

Allegri is just completely ridiculous, Ronaldinho issue aside. We need a goal and he makes the changes atg the 90th!!!????? FFS what was he expecting??? Again my reasoning is backed up, his only tactic is to wait for Ibra to do something, other then that it's a blank!

We need a goal he takes off Boateng and puts on Flamini and still leaves Rino on??

Top of the table or not, we all know the reason behind that and Allegri simply has very little to do with that. Seedorf was pretty bad all game, he should have switched him at the half, same goes with Rino who does nothing to help our game.

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 07:56 PM

Ambrosini was amazing today.Allegri was too late with his substitutions,I can't believe it.Entering 2 players in the last minute,what kind of impact can they make in that short amount of time...Robinho is starting to kick in gear,he may bench pato after all.

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 07:56 PM

No, Ronaldinho is leaving.
If no one is not being bought, no one is getting bought..
We shouldve won it.. Ronnie had to be subbed in 20 minutes earlier

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 07:58 PM

Ronnie for Seedorf at min. 60 and Flamini for Gattuso around min 65 and we win this game.

Have we been on this run DESPITE Allegri or because of him? I'm not so sure right now. What the crap just happened.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:59 PM

It's really all just typical, Allegri's whole system revolved around waiting for Ibra to score then take off Seedorf at the 80th and put in Boateng, he's done this in every game, today things didn't go according to his liitle plan, and what does he do, keep waiting and waiting until the last minute to finally make the change!

Really fead up with his BS at this point!

Posted by: Linkman Nov 27 2010, 07:59 PM

Tis' true. I still maintain Leo would've been doing similarly or better with this squad (though I do admit that's just my opinion, nobody really knows.)

Still... Allegri doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 07:59 PM

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 08:00 PM

One has to wonder what is going through Tassotti's mind through all of this!

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 08:04 PM

Everything aside,the team played with great determination having met a fresh Sampdoria,and we had a game on Tuesday.Good job.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 08:07 PM

What really bugs me is that they only started turning the screw on them during the last 10 minutes, which by that point was too late.

Another point from tonight and another Allegri miss-step, is the fact that he played Bonera at LB, who was the one who played all 4 of the Samp player onside on the gaol

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 08:11 PM

Was Zambrotta available?

Also Seedorf has to be dropped for Dinho.He was sloppy with an easy chance,he passed to the keeper instead of shooting...

Posted by: Boban10 Nov 27 2010, 08:11 PM

I am going to buy Allegri a new watch for Xmas as he is obviously 15-20 minutes BEHIND THE REST OF THE WORLD FFS!!

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 08:13 PM

Team effort was solid, can't deny that. I don't even mind the starting line-up really (Bonera aside, I mean wtf?), but for heaven's sake the man needs to learn how to sub!

Maybe Allegri needs to join MilanFan so we can help him out a little.

Or get me his number and I'll text him when to sub.

Posted by: samira Nov 27 2010, 08:19 PM

I think Ronaldinho should start the game next week against Brescia. He proved to be useful in the 10 minutes he played in the last 2 games.

Posted by: Coldest Nov 27 2010, 08:19 PM

By the way, Linkman's right, if things don't change Ronnie will leave...

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 08:21 PM

Exactly. I've been saying for a long time at the other forum (just got banned there ) that Allegri mightn't be quite the saviour we expect. He seems no have no ideas about the offense. People day "omg dru you're such a drama queen....we're on top" etc. But I fear we're on top in spite of him and not because of him.

He CLEARLY doesn't like Ronaldinho who possibly deserves it due to the stunts he's pulled. However this was a match where his services were sorely needed. Also I don't think he likes Pato too much either. Gut feeling no real proof yet.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 08:24 PM

I'm ok with Seedorf starting, he hasn't played horrible. BUT Allegri must realize Seedorf along with Gattuso runs out of gas around the 60'min every game without fail, its like clockwork. If he wants to play our older players he must sub them accordingly, which is why we basically lost this game especially if Roma, Inter, and Lazio win this weekend.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 08:30 PM

I am absolutely baffled...

What the **** is the point of making 2 tactical substitutions in the freakin 90th minute when clearly something hasn't been working on the pitch for most of the game and you need to score a goal!? was Max high on LSD or something?! he was way too relaxed.

We really needed more force up front but Max acted too late. I think we could've won. my ratings says all there is to say about what I think of each player:

(out of 4):

Abbiati 3 > really saved our **** with that save.
Nesta 2.5 > was he exhausted? was he not interested? he was clearly at fault on Samp's goal.
Silva 3 > fantastically solid. along with Binho, MotM.
Abate 1.5 > can't cross or do something useful in attack if his life depended on it, and generally isn't a great defender either. tbh, I don't know what his role was or what he's doing at this club.
Bonera 2 > much better than Abate. was involved in some of our attacks through the left where he doesn't usually play.
Ambro 2 > he'd been great since he'd come back, but tonight gave away the ball, like, countless times. poor showing.
Rino 1.5 > honestly, he shouldn't be allowed near the opposition box. he's an apology for a footballer player up there. wasn't terrible at doing his defensive duties but that's not what you expect from a Milan midfielder.
KPB 1.5 > I wish Mathieu had started instead of him. hugely disappointing.
Seedorf 2.5 > I was satisfied with him until he blew up that great chance. you expect more from an experienced player like him.
Ibra 1.5 > tbh, I don't recall anything noteworthy from Ibra beside his assist. but he's been on the verge of passing out these last games so...
Robinho 3 > he wasn't flawless and had his share of careless passes, but was by far and away the most creative Milan player tonight. shame he couldn't win us the game. along with Silva, MotM.

Flamini and Dinho NA.

Max 1 > he's found a formation that wins us points, but really needs to do something about his subs (or reluctant to make any).

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 27 2010, 08:37 PM

Thought you guys might enjoy some of the comments on goal.com's comments section for their review of the game:

"i know alot of ppl are thinking we are in first so this is good but allegri should get no credit cuz of games like this. who waits until the 90th min to make subs when the game has been tied at 1-1 for over half an hour?"

"What is wrong with you allegri? A child can pick a better 11 than you? I'm getting sick of you as you always play Sedorf ! HE'S OVER IT ! You have Ronaldinho on the bench and you play Sedorf ? You play with bonera on DL ? I'm a big big Milan fan and i loved watching football games of them last year ! If Leonardo hat Ibra and Robinho he would wonn all... He didn't have luck that's all! But you're a bad bad coach and i can't wait you're sacked"

"wat the hell do expect ronaldinho to do at 90 minutes stupid allegri, put seedorf for first half and ronaldinho for second half, its not that hard"

"is there anyone we can send a petition to berlusconi outlining how tactically incapable allegri is?"

"flop of the match = allegri"

"89th minute and STILL no subs from Allegri..WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE!?!??!?!?!"


We're not alone in our complaints.

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 08:50 PM

Zed:I disagree with everything you said about Abate,he was solid.
I wonder if we are watching the same match.
Ambrosini was the best player out there,and I don't know how Seedorf got a 2.5 in your ratings.

I disagree with all of your ratings sadly

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 08:50 PM

It takes something like these two comments to make me smile after a game like this...

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 08:56 PM

I know for a fact that Ambro lost the ball at least 10 times so how could he be amazing and our best player is beyond me.

Abate was solid?! really? did he manage to make just 1 proper cross. tell me!! playing in a range of 40 meters in the middle of the right side of the pitch and being OK at it isn't that big a deal. one of the reasons we've sucked balls for some years now is our lack of capable FBs. Abate is not Milan XI quality.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 09:00 PM

@ zeddie, regarding Ambro, I agree with Willie here, Ambro along with Thiago and Robs was one of our best players

As for Abate, I personally think he was good, while you mentioned that you were happy with Bonera, who imo, completely messed up the offside trap on Samp's goal and shouldn't be playing at LB

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 09:06 PM

We all know that m8,but he was our only option,and he has lots of room for improvement.He helped nesta on a few defensive hick ups,and didn't really have any trouble in defense.He also had like 2 great runs forward.

Posted by: Lumeci Nov 27 2010, 09:07 PM

Massimiliano Allegri has given Sampdoria credit for the result, while Giampaolo Pazzini was very impressed with Milan.

“The performance from my lads was excellent and I am happy, then a draw is acceptable in football,” said the Coach after a 1-1 at Marassi.


“We wanted to win this game, but Samp made it impossible for us. Robinho is doing very well and is now starting to score important goals.


“I’d like to say these great performances are down to the whole team, which is extremely motivated.”


Pazzini cancelled out Robinho’s opener to follow up from his hat-trick last week.


“The hunger and determination allowed us to play a great game,” said the Sampdoria striker.


“We are happy with this point, which gives us confidence going forward. That is also true on a personal level with my goal.


“I have to say, Milan impressed me this evening.”
footballitalia

is alegri normal human or he is so ignorant he never takes the blame he is fackinig ridicoulus, look at fans reaction and look at his speech its totally diferent its likethere were two different games, I hope berlu interupts here couse I think we wont win anymore games from now on

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 09:27 PM

Well I won't talk about the match in general. The players however will be discussed indirectly. I usually agree with almost all of what you say, Zed.D, but I can't get myself to agree with half of the rankings. Let's see here:

Abbiati: The reason we went a goal down. This thug seriously needs to get his act together or get ready to warm the bench. He makes good (even great) saves, and has been on form I give him that, but his habit of throwing the ball at the opposition team's feet is really creeping me out. He has been doing this consistently for a while now, and even today he stupidly gave or kicked the ball at a Sampdoria player. Today he kicked the ball with eyes closed, it ended up outside, throw in, Nesta got under pressure while covering, gave away the corner, and they score. Sampdoria are the "King of Draws", the 1-1 was incoming all through the second half.

Nesta: Not his usual self, but a Nesta on his bad day is still worth half a dozen other defenders.

Abate: He did what he could, and did great. Probably not "Man of the match" but darn near close. I get what you guys say that his crossing is literally nil, but the guy has pace, and he made more than one good tackle while defending. Vital tackles, even. He is not Milan starting material, but then neither is Antonini, neither is half the squad for Pete's sake. But if he keeps it up like this, and keeps on improving, I'll have him on the bench at least at all time. Remember he had both CRON and ETO in his pocket two consecutive matches.

Bonera: This sucker was another reason for the goal. There is a thing called offside trap, Bon!

KPB: Probably the only major club this guy will get playing time in is Milan. Mediocre at best, another one in the Antonini/Abate/Bonera category. Brings lots of promise, under delivers. I have been saying this for time now, there is nothing special I have seen from him once. Lots of quantity (and heart), little quality (and results). I can't believe Flamini did not get the nod ahead of Flamini. Having said that we do not have other options, so Kevin will do. For now. Just have him with Flam or on the bench otherwise.

Seedorf: This guy does not deserve talking about more than a sentence. R80 (for all his flaws) did more in the 3 minutes than this so-called genius in the whole 90. Nice way to fool people into believing you are a vital and integral senior of the squad. Missed a good chance, okay, no worries. But when you have Ambro putting in more effort and killer passes than your team's #10 then there is a major cause for concern. For all it's worth, I just hope both him and R80 were no where near this team - we need someone else here as our creative center.

Ibra: Having fun, are we? Did good with the assist, but had no business starting (or even playing) this match. Luckily or unluckily, Allegri never heard about the word "Rotation". So unless things change, Ibra's bad days are gonna be Milan's bad day, and his good ones are gonna results in 3 points, more often than not.

Allegri: The coach gets a 1 for showing up and yelling at players. Out of 10 that is. Seriously, two players who should have started get in after the 90th minute mark? Allegri better learn his subs, or he's gonna get subbed himself sooner than he knows what hit him. It's okay that we are still first, how much is that because of the coach is up for debate, but most of time we should be subbing our worst player on the pitch on the 45th, throw in another tactical change at 60th (depending on the state of the match), and try and slot in an absolute youngster in the 80th, give them a chance to gel with the main squad for ten or so minutes every match. Every match. There are certain exceptions, injuries and all, but that IMO should be the base template of substitutions.

I can type more, but the rest of the team put in an okay effort, considering we are without Pato, Pirlo, Inzaghi, have Bonera at the flanks, a virtually dead (killed?) Ronaldinho, and Gattuso who's starting ahead of Flamini day in and day out. And oh, a coach who Not happy with the result, but can't say we deserved any better.

Justice is served. Enjoy the pies, guys!

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 09:38 PM

Fact here is, the Scudetto has suddenly become ours to lose at this point, Inter are terrible, Juve and Roma are there but in the long haul their presence as contenders isquestionable. From now until the break we'll have matches that could potentially make or break our season.

Samp weren't anything special, they just took their chance, something other teams haven't been doing, we have been struggling to score goals since this "genius" system was put in place by Allegri, our entire system revolves around Ibra. And next week, if we don't win Our lead could be cut by 5 points just like that, Inter won't keep dropping points.

Now let's watch Allegri keep fielding a 3 DM midfield or benching Flamini to play the listless Rino, or let's continue watching him running Seedorf and Ibra into the ground because he's too chicken sh!t to rotate or at least make a substitution during a match

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 09:41 PM

I don't know why everyone is blaming Bonera for the goal. offside trap on a corner kick? please... it was Nesta's fault for letting Palombo (?) easily get the ball to Pazzini to tap in. look at the goal once again, Nesta didn't even jump for the ball, or couldn't, which either way is his fault. I'm surprised no one even mentions that and blames Bonera instead.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 09:46 PM

I did Zed. Abbiati culprit number one, then Nesta, and the third one is Bonera. He was just late to react, and while not at fault directly, some quick thinking and reflexes could (or could not, if the linesman had other ideas) have saved the goal.

But really the goalkeeper is the first to be blamed, he put undue pressure on Nesta. It really wasn't necessary, a good clearance and we would not even be talking about the goal. Abbiati made an absolutely world class save (he had too, every GK must), but his brain-dead moments have cost us goals and points for the past two seasons at least. I really want him to figure this bit out.

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 09:48 PM

As for Abate, I never said he's bad. I said can't cross which is true, and isn't a great defender, which is again true! maybe for you guys not being bad = good. but not for me. one of the reasons we were outnumbered in attack is because our full backs, both Abate and to a lesser extent Bonera, are not capable of joining the attacks and being good at it (a la Maicons and Alveses and Ramoses of this world). we really need someone like Coentrao in January and another good RB in the summer.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 09:52 PM

Agreed, and that's what I said above, Abate, Antonin, Bonera are at best 2nd string choices. That is if we want to win something big. Maybe they will improve in a few years, but at what cost to the club? Someone like Coentrao is needed, at least one flank should have an A+ player.

Darn you Milos Krasic, darn you. He'd have been perfect, seeing our right side creates literally nothing!

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 27 2010, 09:55 PM

I disagree with you about Abbiati. yes he kicked the ball awkwardly and that led to Samp's corner kick. what's that got to do the their goal? corner kicks happen in every game. IMO what leads to a corner kick doesn't really matter that much, but how a team defends a corner does. you can't blame Abs for being at the far end of a series of incidents that led to Samp's corner...

DISCLAIMER: I'm an Amelia fan and want him to play!! but I don't think Abs has been bad enough to be benched, yet.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 10:05 PM

I know, but why not keep things under control in the first place. Corner kicks happen, but I'd rather take them when an opposing forward is rushing in and a defender tackles the ball out. Or a CB heads the ball out. Absolutely no point in that stupid trick that Abbiati pulled which resulted in the throw in, which resulted in the corner, which results in the goal. I understand, that even if it was a corner, even if Bonera did not play the offside trap, it was still the team's fault for conceding the equalizer. No two words about that.

Anyway, guys do watch Abbiati's giveaways in the next few matches. I really hope none of them happen, but IMO he needs to work on where to kick and where to pass. Not everything he sends will reach our players first, but I am talking about the freebies. Control that, and it will be good for all parties. Besides it will give Abbiati the needed confidence. Minor details make or break a match, after all. Inches and centimeters.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 27 2010, 10:21 PM

I know the ones you're talking about acid, the last time he did it was much worse, kicked it straight to an opposing player near the half way line, really can't remember who it was against though

Posted by: William405 Nov 27 2010, 10:24 PM

It kinda happened today too

Posted by: drucurl Nov 27 2010, 11:09 PM

On a Positive note I was really really happy to see Robinho score.
Damn that kid works hard!!! A 4-3-3 of him, duck and iHomo/Dinho would a pleasure to watch once we get fullbacks worthy of the red and black.

Pity that with all this attacking firepower at his disposal Allegri can't figure out how to get them to work . Oh noes I just said something bad about the all wise allknowing Allegri....permaban for dru!!!

Posted by: acid911 Nov 27 2010, 11:16 PM

Exactly, he has done that rather regularly now. No point in remembering who it was again, because unfortunately he does this every other match. Not good. I like both our keepers, and want them both to do well. Who does so, and makes less mistakes should start. But really, mistakes like this (that can be easily avoided) only go against us.

Keep it calm, pass it to the guy in the red and black. At least not give away freebies to opponents!


Yeah, at least once. And then a couple of misfired kicks too. No keeper is perfect, but I can only hope Abbiati is working on these mistakes. Because really it indirectly (or directly) results in loss of points.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 27 2010, 11:48 PM

Welcome to the Anti-Allegri Club, folks!

Didn't watch the game, but from the highlights it seemed like we had control of the match and should have won, considering all the chances we had, especially the last two with Seedorf and Robinho. Sampdoria only had two shots in goal.

Nevertheless, it's not a bad result. Unlike some of you who were already celebrating our victory two days ago, I knew winning on Samp's pitch is never easy. You'll see all the other big clubs will stumble there.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Nov 28 2010, 12:19 AM

What Allegri did today was ******* excusable.

Posted by: han2503 Nov 28 2010, 01:01 AM

You said yurself, we had control of the game and should have scored! There was no point to losing these points, and justifying it by saying all the other teams will stumble there is the mentality that we had over these last 5 years where we didn't win anything. Being champions means you go to these stadiums and bringing back the 3 points, whether you play a good game or a bad game.

What really p!ssed me off is Allegri, there was a problem especially after we conceeded, yet what does Allegri do? Keep twiddling his tumbs waiting for Ibra or Robinho to do something, instead of taking the initiative and making a change, Seedorf had trouble throughout the entire match, while Rino was the usual, trying to play ome-twos with Abate and trying to play around the box, yet what does Allegri do, wait until the last minute of regular time to bring in Dinho and Flamini, who should have been on at least at the 60th if not at the start of the 2nd half. Dinho created more dangerous plays in 4 minutes then Seedorf managed all game.

It's the same BS as usual, only before we scraped through from the games, while today we lost 2 points because we can't manage to score then 1 stupid goal in 90 minutes of football where we have control of the game, This system does not allow us to kill off games, thus leaving us vulnerable to an equiliser, we got lucky against Inter and Fiorentina, we didn't get lucky the 3rd time. If Inter win tomorrow that's already 2 point cut out from our lead. And we have Roma still to come

Posted by: drucurl Nov 28 2010, 03:20 AM

We can curse here?


Glad to see that a lot here have their doubts about Allegri. To temper this we muct give him some sort of credit for fixing our defense and making us look more solid against set pieces and Counter Attacks....then again Leo didn't have Nesta healthy as often, nor did he have Sokratis (who, to be fair hasn't played as much but ANYBODY>>>>Kaladze)

I will say it again but I don't think he's a big team coach. I was particularly upset with how he plays ANY team with some stature....like we're such a small team Under Allegri is the first time that I've seen my beloved proud mighty arrogant Milan EVER try to waste time by the corner flag. This is something that I would always LAUGH at other teams for (except Trinidad ) doing. We did it (and paid dearly for it) vs Madrid and Inter. Seriously if the best he could come up with is pass to iHomo and hope he scored while keeping things tight at the back then I'm sorry he's not a big team coach. With the attack we have now I have no doubts that Leo would have at least DESTROYED inter.

his treatment of Ronaldinho is also under review. At present it's even....Ron did his **** and was punished.....from now on they both start with a clean slate in this issue.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 28 2010, 03:26 AM

I should be loving Allegri because of that.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 28 2010, 04:45 AM

Its not bannable (unless exccessive I think) but its looked down upon from what I've gathered from my time here. Just FYI.

Posted by: MizNelson Nov 28 2010, 07:29 AM

Not too long ago, cursing on here was almost completely taboo. However, the brass seems to have eased up on the reins considerably as of late.

I think it's a matter of trusting us as long as things don't get out of hand (see the R&B cesspool for that).

Posted by: Bluesummers Nov 28 2010, 12:47 PM

swearing at the team is different than swearing at members. We have every right to get mad in a matchday at players and sometimes emotions can get out of hand so its normal.


But if we take that towards other members; thats where the line has to be drawn imo.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 28 2010, 12:50 PM

It isn't related to trust, it's just a matter of discipline and manners.

Talking about which, @drucurl - would you be so kind and stop calling Ronaldinho the name you do, because it is very offensive in a most unconfortable manner, and while I understand that this was your point in first place, I don't think it is appropriate to do it. So please, try using something less provocative.
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Allegri really did me think. What was he waiting for? It seemed like he forgot the result and Tassotti told him 4 minutes from time "he, we conceeded, do you remember?" What was the problem?
It is such a basic thing, yet he does it from day one up till now. Makes me wonder what the others on the bench do; I mean Allegri does not look like an autocrat, surely someone could have told him by now!

Yesterday we had some terrible and some not so-bad or good players. Thums up for Robinho and Abate. Abate was very good to say at least, maybe he can do the RB after all (surely, he needs more practice).

I don't get how you can criticise Abbiati? I mean, he's done superb so far. Yes, he has this little mistakes but every keeper in that cathegory makes them. He just isn't what Dida was for us a while, or van der Sar, Buffon, etc. But compared to other keepers we had like Rossi, Antonioli, Galli, etc. he's at their level or above.

Nesta made me worry, he looked slow and not really concentrated yesterday. If Samp had pushed more and insisted more on an attacking approach, I'm not so sure he could have held it down.

I don't get what Boateng was supposed to do yesterday. He was IMO the worst player we had; only thing he did was running, and that stopped too at one point. Oh, and yes, he kicked opposition and could have costed us a penalty too. His passing was horribly inprecise, his actions mostly destroyed our efforts to build-up an attack. He was just useless, pretty much like Gattuso but even worser. I really think Allegri should start a Flamini-Pirlo-Ambrosini midfield as soon as possible, and hold Rino as a option, but KPB is bench material.

Posted by: drucurl Nov 28 2010, 01:01 PM

No problem Simone. Where I came from callin players derogatory names was standard. I'll just like to point out that i called Ibra worse names than iHomo before his arrival and soon you'll all see him for what he really is. But I'm not here for trouble so i'll abide. If i use the name again it'll be purely accidental because I've grown attached to it lol. Just remind me and I'll edit. Cheers.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 28 2010, 01:49 PM

Thank you! KPB is best left as a sub for Flamini. Likewise Gattuso for Ambrosini. The three you mentioned should be default first XI most of the time. Mr. Allegri, it seems, has other ideas.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 28 2010, 03:17 PM

No badmouthing Boateng, he'll become a great player.

Posted by: William405 Nov 28 2010, 04:09 PM

Flamini-Pirlo-Ambrosini

I agree with you Fillipo,that midfeild will be great.Flamini being our engine,Pirlo playmaker,and Ambrosini sitting in front of the defense with the occasional runs forward.Also,Gattuso should be Ambro's replacement and Boateng Flamini's replacement.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 28 2010, 04:21 PM

If you want Ambrosini sitting in front of the defense, he should be the one in the middle. So playing wide with Flamini and Pirlo, how would that be?

Pato/Robinho + Ibrahimovic
...... Seedorf / new AM .......
Pirlo - - Ambrosini- - Flamini (Pirlo and Flamini attacking + defending, I dunno who should play which side)
LB- - T.Silva - Nesta - Abate
............... Abbiati ..............

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 28 2010, 10:51 PM

I think Han is past it.. he should let someone else open the next game's thread

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 28 2010, 10:53 PM

Watching some Italian football show, people saying how we're doing great because Pirlo's out.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 28 2010, 11:30 PM

They could have a point. Two years ago when Pirlo was injured we had a great spell at the same time. Who knows?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 29 2010, 12:02 AM

Naah, first of all we're not that great and secondly, Pirlo is immese for Milan. He's our way of joga bonito, if he's in Milan plays good. We may have pulled out some good results so far, but the footballing level without him aka with Boateng-Rino-Ambro is at a low.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 29 2010, 01:04 AM

I'd prefer to see him farther up the field as our AM. Him or Dinho, I've had enough Seedorf for the time being personally.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 29 2010, 10:00 AM

4-2-3-1 is the future.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 29 2010, 10:29 AM

Word. Engulf the opposition and choke the life out of 'em!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 29 2010, 10:50 AM

Yup. Though it is susceptible to a 4-6-0 counter. I think Milan is one of the teams that can play both these formations comfortably.

Posted by: shevchenko_007 Nov 29 2010, 11:02 AM

COACH ALLEGRI:
"The team put in one of its best performances this season. My lads played with high intensity, despite our busy schedule.
I’m sorry for the result, because we could have won the game, but in any case my players did well this evening.
As for Sampdoria’s equaliser, I can say that our man-marking was poor on that occasion, that’s why the ball finished at Pazzini’s feet.
Sending on Ronaldinho sooner? The team was doing well, so I didn’t want to break our balance by making changes. It just didn’t seem right, because we would have risked giving them chances for counter-attacks. Because of this, I thougth it was better not to change the team that was doing well.
My players are very determined, motivated, which makes me satisfied.”

This is just a pathetic comment and just shows how blind this guy is. We were flat from the 55th to the 80th minute and completely lost our bearings like we normally do.. we let a woeful team look like the worlds best in this period of the match after completely dominating the first half. Changes are a part of the game, whether u are winning or losing or drawing changes always need to be made and to not push for the win shows his complete lack of ability.
To be honest I was really hoping to lose that match because although we completely dominated the game we did not deserve to win it because of our embarrassing coach. And also if we lost this match it would have been one more step closer to Allegri being sacked, which needs to be done before christmas, I'm sure Tassotti can do a much better job until we find a replacement. Although knowing Milan, we will probably wait for Inter to sack Benitez and snap him up.

Posted by: acid911 Nov 29 2010, 11:05 AM

That would be a very sad day indeed. The one I hope I do not live to see. The guy is a fluke of a coach, and a douche bag to boot. And it's not like he would win us a league titles or two, he just isn't cut out for it. And me? I want a Scudetto. Or two. Three, even.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 29 2010, 12:30 PM

Milan won't ever sign Benitez, it's out of question. Nothing to worry about.

Posted by: vahid Nov 29 2010, 01:20 PM

Last season after 14th week we had 28 points and also won Real at Bernabeu,although we didn't have Ibra,Robi and Nesta.
I miss you Leo

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 29 2010, 02:40 PM

Not for Milan. Right now, we don't have the adequate players to be using that system.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 29 2010, 03:31 PM

Sure we do.

------------Ambro---Flam-----
----Robinho---Seedorf---Pirlo
--------------Ibra------------


Bench: KPB, Rino, Pato,Pippo.


We'd play much more pretty too. Though to really work, we need some fast fullbacks.

It's not your textbook 4-2-3-1 with two wing forwards flanking a CAM....but this formation would be unique. It is pace and possession capable at the same time. It's more of 3 number 10s supporting a lethal CF.

Hard to drill this into shape...but I reckon we have players who are tactically intelligent enough to make it work.

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 29 2010, 04:34 PM

Pirlo on the wing? LOL. I really don't see the reason to change line-up again since we're doing so well with the good ol' 4-3-1-2, which has always been our trademark.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Nov 29 2010, 05:36 PM

Urm...I specifically said we're not playing the 4-2-3-1 with two wing forwards. 3 number 10s supporting the striker.

Posted by: Dracoris Nov 29 2010, 05:56 PM

That doesn't hurt my eyes all that much honestly. Maybe a Fifa11 idea!

Posted by: CHU-LIP Nov 29 2010, 06:13 PM

Definitely a Fifa11 idea!

Posted by: X-Offender Nov 29 2010, 06:34 PM

That doesn't exist. You need at least two wingers, otherwise it won't work.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Nov 29 2010, 07:00 PM

I think Leo did pretty well with the team he had, and the mental impact he had to deal with in loosing Kaka and Maldini at one go. I generally disliked Leo's approach, even today ... But he does deserve an applause as he did very well with what he had.

Yet I look back and think of one Carlo Ancelotti

Posted by: Zed.D Nov 29 2010, 07:25 PM

With Chelsea's recent pathetic downfall, I'm suddenly not thinking of wanting to see Carlo back anymore...

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Nov 29 2010, 08:33 PM

So you change your opinion with every change of trend?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Nov 29 2010, 08:58 PM

Never been a big fan of Carlo, but even I don't blame their current downfall on him. The behind the scenes stuff at that club is shocking.