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 Jul 21 2006, 10:06 PM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 04:52 PM) what do you mean?? We'll be forced to buy a striker just to fulfil that???? Milan also you used to play with a libero, now we don't!!!!!!!!!!!! ......................  I mean we r Milan, we dont get forced... we buy who we want to buy when we want to buy. I think Milan has tricks under its sleaves. Milan did play the X-tree at some point in it's history, plus we played it when in 05 When Sheva was injured and we had Crespo up front by himself; but that wasn't our defult formation: i.e. 4 3 1 2 ... I would expect Milan to shift the formation up a bit, but the two up front will remain. That's what I'm saying. QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 21 2006, 11:25 PM) "Only communists play defensive football!" And we all know Silvio is not a communist (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yes .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Jul 21 2006, 10:15 PM |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:14 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 21 2006, 11:25 PM) "Only communists play defensive football!" And we all know Silvio is not a communist (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) LOL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That's a great quote but the football tree has nothing to do with defensive football and at the same time no two striker formation has anything to do with attacking football .... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's the way you play it ... Gullit's Milan was actually a 4-5-1 team but oh my God it is the greatest team ever!!!!!!! QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 21 2006, 11:25 PM) And it's a good decision by Ance to let him play this position, couldn't be any better for our game. You can't let him play alongside with Kaká, two great midfielders with the same designation, it just wouldn't work... It's obviously Carlo is wrong on the Pirlo matter: He should be a playmaker just like in Italy (it was my mistake to put him next to Kaka), we all saw how great he was while in Milan his duties are strictly defense related!!!! Also a word about Gatusso: He's virtually the only DMF we got and still he's not the classic type of: Have you ever seen Rino play strictly in front of the defence? No because it would be a waste to put a player that can run with no stop for 3000 minutes to guard the defence all the time.He's got more jobs to do in the field mostly in the flanks!!! QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 22 2006, 12:06 AM) I mean we r Milan, we dont get forced... we buy who we want to buy when we want to buy. You didn't quite understand what I said. Of course Milan is not forced by any person to do anything but since we got no second outside-of-the-box striker and you so desperately want us to play with two strikers then we'd have to buy one even if we don't think he's good enough or worth the money ... |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:52 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,640 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 10:14 PM) You didn't quite understand what I said. Of course Milan is not forced by any person to do anything but since we got no second outside-of-the-box striker and you so desperately want us to play with two strikers then we'd have to buy one even if we don't think he's good enough or worth the money ... Totally right. It isn't just a coincedence that when we played with Gila and Pippo upfront when Sheva was injured non of the goals that were scored came from either of them, you simply can't play with 2 strikers when both of them are box strikers, it just won't work. And right now there isn't anyone that could do what Sheva does the only one that I see that has big potential in him is Tevez but he has never been linked to anybody accept for Chelsea but certainly not to us, I can't see him ever coming to Milan. So right now the xmas tree formation is the best option and having 3 number 10 players in your formation wouldn't be called defensive. We would have a triangle of playmakers ------Pirlo------ Kaka---Gourcuff I wouldn't call that defensive. |
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Jul 21 2006, 11:53 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 595 Joined: 26-October 05 From: Lincoln, England. Member No.: 735 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 08:46 PM) huh.gif What's that suppose to mean??? It's a confused face! The name of it is "huh?" as in: I don't get you! QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 08:46 PM) We always play with two strikers??? Man we won the CL and Scudetto playing the Christma tree, what was bad with that, that we lost the Intercontinental Cup??? That was over 2 and 3 years ago respectively, we now play with 2 strikers upfront! And yes, losing that cup to Boca hurt me really bad if you must know, not that I think it was down to the "Albero di Natale" QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 08:46 PM) Yeah but Galliani got a year off ... I think that's why he was panished, right? laugh.gif You wouldn't want that !!! 1. That's beside the point, what's it got to do with Kaladze? 2. That's not funny! QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 08:46 PM) Well even if it was 1 week after our previous game, would you excpept anything more from the likes of Cafu, Serginho, Costacurta considering their age and the fact that it was the end of the season??? I wouldn't, this team is aged!!!! Thank God we're not playing in CL next year, maybe Galliani will finally buy some replacements!!!! I would've expected more from them had they not been injured! Yea ok they might be coming to the end of their careers but realistically Silvio won't buy any other replacements, which I agree we do need! |
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Jul 22 2006, 12:06 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:53 AM) It's a confused face! The name of it is "huh?" as in: I don't get you! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:53 AM) That was over 2 and 3 years ago respectively, we now play with 2 strikers upfront! And yes, losing that cup to Boca hurt me really bad if you must know, not that I think it was down to the "Albero di Natale" Oh my God it was so long ago, you're right we can go that back in time !!!! Yeah I know it hurt me too ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:53 AM) That's not funny! I know ... At least I try!!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Jul 22 2006, 01:53 AM) I would've expected more from them had they not been injured! By more you mean that Barca would have had 5 clear chances instead of 10? Ohhh ... that would be neat!!! |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:01 AM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 21 2006, 10:14 PM) LOL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That's a great quote but the football tree has nothing to do with defensive football and at the same time no two striker formation has anything to do with attacking football .... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's the way you play it ... Gullit's Milan was actually a 4-5-1 team but oh my God it is the greatest team ever!!!!!!! Yeah...it was the greatest team ever...but think about it. What was the part they were famous for the most? Ahh...it was the offside trap. Sounds quite defensive for me... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:43 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 22 2006, 01:14 AM) You didn't quite understand what I said. Of course Milan is not forced by any person to do anything but since we got no second outside-of-the-box striker and you so desperately want us to play with two strikers then we'd have to buy one even if we don't think he's good enough or worth the money ... So what ur saying is that you didn't see any strikers that might have struck ur eye this WC ? Do u honestly think this is the team for next year ? Forget it, think outside of the box dst |
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Jul 22 2006, 02:15 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 595 Joined: 26-October 05 From: Lincoln, England. Member No.: 735 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 22 2006, 12:06 AM) By more you mean that Barca would have had 5 clear chances instead of 10? Ohhh ... that would be neat!!! They're all players that can get forward, I was thinking more about the chances WE could have had - ie. a cross from Cafu or Serginho. |
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Jul 22 2006, 02:34 AM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 201 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Bury St. Edmunds/ Sheffield(term-time) Member No.: 1,611 |
Carlo is sticking with the 4-1-2-1-2. So lets work around that.
Inzaghi and Gila will not be sufficient. New striker required to take Sheva's place. My choice, given current climate: Trezeguet. The MF is sorted as far as I can see. Same as before. Just wake up Seedorf. Defence. I agree with DST on the defence being milan's traditional forte, and it does need to be re-estalbsihed. Janku, Favalli, Simic and Cafu, all too old or simply not good enough. Pref Kaladze would play at LB, with Nesta and Maldini CB. Maldini cannot be counted upon due to age. He can either be rotated/subbed with Costacurta, or another CB brought in. Reliable candidated like Cannavaro and Thuram however, have slipped through Milan\s fingers, when either of them would have done. Poor from Milan again. New RB strikes me as desperate. Sagnol is my preferred. Costacurta could operate it well as he did when required last season, but not a long-term soln, which the sooner one is looked into, the better. I don't have a problem with older players, as long as they can still cut it, and I feel Costacurta can, Maldini too, but Cafu no. Serginho being played out of posn anyway, which is ridiculous for a top sde like Milan. |
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Jul 22 2006, 08:51 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 22 2006, 03:01 AM) Yeah...it was the greatest team ever...but think about it. What was the part they were famous for the most? Ahh...it was the offside trap. Sounds quite defensive for me... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That team was famous for it's Dutch trio, which is not defensive but anyway don't try to distract me you German CB, you got what I mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 22 2006, 03:43 AM) So what ur saying is that you didn't see any strikers that might have struck ur eye this WC ? Do u honestly think this is the team for next year ? Forget it, think outside of the box dst No this is not the team for next year ... I made this topic and wrote what we need!!!! There was a player that struck my eye in the WC and that was Pirlo ... if you try and think outside of the two-strikers box you'd understand that if we let him play as a playmaker he's going to kick some @ss and we won't need to spend 50 f@cking millions on a f@cking striker that struck my f@cking eye while our f@cking defence is just f@cking sh1t right now!!!!!!!!! Oh, I got a little tense right there ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 22 2006, 10:45 AM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 22 2006, 07:51 AM) That team was famous for it's Dutch trio, which is not defensive but anyway don't try to distract me you German CB, you got what I mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) OK....all my arguments just vanished (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The point is we really need another striker. I don't want to see Gila all on his own next season. This one striker thing doesn't work at all. Look at Henry in the WC, he's the best striker right now, and even he didn't manage to through Italys defense even though France was the clearly better team the entire second half. No we need two strikers, so stop arguing you greek RB! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:28 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 22 2006, 12:45 PM) No we need two strikers, so stop arguing you greek RB! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ...but Henry "only" had Zidane beside him cause Make and Vieira were mostly defending while we'll have Pirlo + Kaka + Gourcuff to do that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Anyway Milan know better, I just hope they are awakened in time!!!! This post has been edited by dst: Jul 22 2006, 01:31 PM |
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Jul 22 2006, 02:50 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Well look I thought about it ... There's only one forward in the whole wide world that is worth our money and in fact I'd give everything to have him!!!!
He's Lionel Messi !!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.coolsmileys.net/affection/hubba4.gif) |
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Jul 22 2006, 03:43 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 595 Joined: 26-October 05 From: Lincoln, England. Member No.: 735 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 22 2006, 01:28 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ...but Henry "only" had Zidane beside him cause Make and Vieira were mostly defending while we'll have Pirlo + Kaka + Gourcuff to do that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) He had Ribery &/or Malouda as well didn't he? I hope you don't mean Pirlo, Kaka & Gourcuff all at the same time, that's too many playmakers don't you think? |
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Jul 22 2006, 03:55 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 22 2006, 10:51 AM) No this is not the team for next year ... I made this topic and wrote what we need!!!! There was a player that struck my eye in the WC and that was Pirlo ... if you try and think outside of the two-strikers box you'd understand that if we let him play as a playmaker he's going to kick some @ss and we won't need to spend 50 f@cking millions on a f@cking striker that struck my f@cking eye while our f@cking defence is just f@cking sh1t right now!!!!!!!!! Oh, I got a little tense right there ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm glade you noticed that it isn't. You shouldn't stress ur self, cz it wont change anything from the fact that u r just an an observer and have no say in what the outcome will be, so chill. Pirlo sucked in the AM role big time .. but his role with us is just perfect for him, so I wouldnt change that. Spending 50 Million?! Who said anything about that? .. Milan said Sheva will be replaced with an equal, and that's a fact. Anything other than that would be considered an assumption. The defence, I agree has to be reinforced. |
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