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Danny
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QUOTE (nuh @ Nov 12 2019, 11:11 AM) *
One of the biggest mistakes this club has ever made was selling Ibra and Thiago during the summer 2012.


Yup, that and the exodus that summer ended Milan.

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PS. Hi guys (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , I havenít posted in a long time but Iíve been coming on often to read your opinions.


Hi Nuh, hope you're well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't post as often either any more. But I still pop on.
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Posted on: Yesterday, 04:23 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 10 2019, 10:38 PM) *
It's true we did not deserve to lose,


True champions never 'deserve' to win. Which is why losers never 'deserve' to lose.
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Posted on: Nov 7 2019, 11:31 PM


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Some more context. Celtic beat Lazio home and away. Milan couldn't handle the latter at San Siro and lost. Rangers beat Porto 2-0 btw.

There is basically no hope for this club for a very very long time.
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Posted on: Nov 5 2019, 01:24 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 5 2019, 12:27 AM) *
By that logic Real Madrid won 5 of their 13 Champions League titles in the 50s when football was still an amateur sport. And after their 1966 success they didn't win back the trophy in 31 years.

I don't think it's fair to look at a club's success like that.


Exactly! That's precisely my point!

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Yes, we did reach mainstream success after Silvio took over, but before that we had already won 2 European Cups and 10 league titles. That's a very good record. UEFA Cup? That's a petty trophy, always has been.

Successful clubs tend to have long breaks once in a while. Madrid, as I mentioned, is a good example. Barcelona won only 2 league titles from 1960 to 1990. That's 30 years! Manchester United didn't win a single league title from 1967 to 1992. Liverpool haven't won the league since 1990. Arsenal have been shite for about 15 years now.

We're in a very bad place, but history teaches that the football greats do manage to get back on their feet. We'll get there eventually.


The good example in our favour is Liverpool. Barren spell from late 80s to basically last year, excluding 2005. That's essentially 40 years of tumbleweed.

You're right, the greats do get back on their feet, but it can take a lifetime for it to happen.
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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 09:58 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 4 2019, 09:54 PM) *
Sorry Danny, but comparing Milan to the likes of Leeds, Hamburg, Rangers and Nottingham is a huge insult.

If we take the whole history of football of the last, let's say, 65 years (since the first European Cup was played), I'd argue that in terms of trophies, players and overall prestige we come second only to Real Madrid.

We've had 12 European Cup/Champions League finals, 7 of which won. We've won 18 FIFA and UEFA trophies, a record three Intercontinental Cups and one FIFA Club World Cup, the UEFA Super Cup a record five times, and the Cup Winners' Cup twice.

We've produced one if not the best and most influential football sides under Sacchi, not to mention the 8 Ballon d'Or wins by 6 players, only second to Real Madrid and Barcelona (clearly boosted by the recent wins of Ronaldo and Messi).

And in Italy we're the second most successful club after Juventus.

We are giants of football, and we'll find our way back to the top eventually. Can't say when, but we'll never get relegated or fail financially. We're just too big to fail.


And those players just lost. I respect your opinions folks but I've said my piece and just hope you guys are right and not I.
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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 09:57 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2019, 05:50 PM) *
Yet we have to consider the conditions of our present time.

Hamburger SV never were a true German giant, they just had much success in the 80s (and some in the 50s and 70s). Leeds is huge, I didn't want anyone to get insulted. But in terms of titles they cannot be compared to any of the top English clubs. I think Milan is in a whole different league then the likes of Forest, Leeds, HSV, etc. Not that this can be helpful or a dire warning to us.


Take your point but the reality is having a name value and history doesn't really mean anything.

It doesn't guarantee survival any more than players just 'turning up' to matches means they'll win.

I do find it interesting you say Hamburg was never a true German giant, when Milan ourselves won all our UCLs bar two since the 80s, have never won the Uefa Cup, and won half our 18 titles before 1980 (81 years) where the 40 years since we won the other half.

Does our success mostly being in the modern era make us also not a true Italian giant?

Seems a little unfair to grade a team's success based on when they had it.
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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 04:43 PM


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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:07 PM) *
That 7 CL bags on the side of the shirt isn't playing on the field. 5 of those CL titles were funded by Silvio. With FFP that is not possible even if an owner does come in.


Fair point R7. We're not buying our way out of this.

This club needs to generate the numbers the likes of PSG, Man City, Real etc do. It's supposed to be able to, but the numbers just aren't there any more. Even in fact Real and Man Utd, while still the biggest brands around, can't get it right.

According to Brand Finance 2019 we're 15th for global brand size, and 21st for enterprise strength.

And yet 1-5 includes Utd and Real yet these two are hardly in the best place right now either.

So, even though Man Utd can afford a Pogba and a Maguire, they're so mismanaged in a football sense, like us, it doesn't matter.

And as long as we have idiots like Maldini and Boban making the calls, that's the way it stays.

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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 04:36 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2019, 12:53 PM) *
Again, Milan ain't Leeds. We have history and value, I think someone will come and pick us up soon enough.


Big insult there on Leeds mate. I'm not exactly their biggest fan but your age betrays the fact you lack knowledge of how big they were in the time before the past 20 years.

They might not have had quite the glitter-laden glory we had, but they've won the league more than Napoli and been runners up many times too.

And yet they fell. Dramatically. Horribly. And can't get back.

'history and value' means nothing if the path ahead is bleak.

Another example?

Nottingham Forrest. Won the EC twice, league once, but a tonne of trophies as well. Now languishing in lower league hell and have been for decades.

Another example?

Man Utd.

One of the most glory-laden clubs in history, yet been absolute tripe since SAF quit. That was the same period, btw, that our exodus happened - 2012/2013. All the money, all the history, all the glory, and 10th in the table. Already starting to get scarily close to a decade of this for their fans.

Another example?

Hamburg.

Multiple German title winners, a EC, tonnes of other trophies and where are they now? Bundesliga 2.

Don't ever get so complacent that 'history and value' means a damn. It doesn't. Results and form do. And we have neither any more.

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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 12:50 PM


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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 4 2019, 12:02 PM) *
Really? No comeback? I'm very skeptic myself but...


I think so. Unlike Rangers who fell further and harder in the same year as Milan (2012) the SPL isn't competitive in terms of quality beyond Celtic. Milan haven't fallen that dramatically, but in a way it's worse - Rangers were given a broken leg and it healed - Milan are on like a horrible long-term ACLI which is so so hard to repair.

Rangers were able to come back through divisions with fairly modest spend, but Milan can't do that - to compete in the top half of the table already takes more money better managed than we seem to be. Rangers have Celtic to beat. Milan have Inter, Juve, Napoli, Atalanta, Roma, Lazio etc etc.

20 years on from Leeds' fall in England, they are STILL in the Championship.

Gone from UCL semi final and champions of England to this.

If it can happen to the former best of England, it can happen to anyone.
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Posted on: Nov 4 2019, 02:30 AM


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OK, some perspective:

Celtic beat this side last week with something to spare. True, it was in Glasgow, but Rangers and Celtic are well matched this season and the title will go to the wire.

For Lazio to come to San Siro and rather easily put Milan away shows Milan now are considerably worse than either Rangers or Celtic, which is something I never thought I'd say.

Celtic, fair enough in a sense - 8IAR in the Scottish league without a viable Rangers - now this season Rangers are back at that level, and it's clear to me Rangers would destroy Milan.

We've put Feyenoord away this season, we should have put away Young Boys but for dreadful defending, and Porto were VERY lucky to get a point at home v us.

Milan, clearly, would lose to these teams. All five. Rangers, Celtic, Feyenoord, Young Boys and Porto.

The players aren't THAT bad - it's just a systemic rot which has taken over the club from top to bottom.

Doesn't matter who the manager is, barely matters who the players are - it's just a horrific gloom enveloping the club and I really can't see a way out.

I don't think Milan are coming back from this. I think the descent into a Leeds, Forest etc is complete.
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Posted on: Nov 2 2019, 08:02 AM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 31 2019, 10:54 PM) *
So many jokes about that today on Instagram.

Anyway, we won. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I watched Pet Semetary, if anyone cares (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Posted on: Oct 31 2019, 05:32 PM


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So we're playing tonight, but I'm choosing a different horror movie for Halloween.
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Posted on: Oct 21 2019, 12:43 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 21 2019, 08:44 AM) *
it was Lecce.


w0rd.
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Posted on: Oct 19 2019, 01:07 AM


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I like to be predictable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Posted on: Oct 18 2019, 03:20 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2019, 09:26 AM) *
end up with a team not even worthy of Serie A. That's how deep in sh*t we are.


'End up'?
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Posted on: Oct 11 2019, 10:25 PM


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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 11 2019, 09:54 PM) *
Piatek started looking bad last season when the entire team dipped in form, he's a striker that relies on service. If you're not giving him anything to work with, he's not going to create something out of nothing by himself.


This.

And plus Suso himself is hardly known for altruistic play.
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Posted on: Oct 9 2019, 02:34 AM


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QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 8 2019, 11:45 PM) *
There is chaos in our management.


Yes, for the past near-decade.

It's absurd how poorly Milan are run, and how bad the decisions at every level of management continue to be.

Question for all of you - genuine - will you still follow this team in Serie B with having lost our 'best' players and possibly sliding down to Serie C?

Now, I'm a Rangers fan and I've had a four-year nightmare in the lower divisions, but we're now top of the table and should be top of our Europa group (group of death with Feyenoord, Young Boys and Porto) so I know what it is to slide to the bottom and the joy of rising back.

But could this generation of Rossoneri cope with it (after all it happened 40 years ago too).
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 02:26 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2019, 10:12 AM) *
The issue with Spalletti is that he's still bound with Inter, which earns him 4.5 million per year for the next two years. If he was to sign a contract with us, he'd have to rescind with Inter. But he wanted a severance pay of one year's salary, and Inter were not willing to pay him.

A matter of principle for Inter, Spalletti apparently is very angry with them and there's a lot of tension betwene the two parties.

Hence why we opted for Pioli. But my question is: why not Ranieri or Garcia instead? Pioli is just another Giampaolo.



Ranieri:

Horrific coach. Absolutely rubbish at Chelsea, Roma and every meaningful club at a high level. Rubbish at Leicester - it was his assistant Craig Shakespeare who really won that league for them, and it was also a total freak (he couldn't repeat it as manager). Telling that Ranieri has been trash at every club before and since Leicester won the league, and including the season there after that. Jose Mourinho was dead right about this guy.

Garcia:

Good coach. Therefore not one Milan would realistically go for.
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 02:20 PM


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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 8 2019, 02:00 PM) *
Maldini and Boban = Clowns.

Milan into the abyss.


Yup. I can't honestly say I support this club any more. I follow its fortunes, but the soul was ripped out long ago and it's a total clusterf*ck of an operation now.

I enjoy the chat on here, but the Milan we all grew up with is gone, probably for good, and it's been replaced by a satirical tribute act.

With a f*ckme terrible shirt.
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Posted on: Oct 8 2019, 02:18 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2019, 10:19 AM) *
Anyway, I'm still happy we got rid of Giampaolo. That's what you get for being a stubborn mule.


Not his fault at all. It was the two morons who appointed a midtable mediocre coach.

What's happening is what the management instructs. Appoint a turd as manager and a turd you get.

This club is headed to Serie B.
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Posted on: Oct 6 2019, 09:14 PM


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Who was it who said they were feeling reassured with these two clowns in charge?

With all due respect, being a great player does not mean anything.
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Posted on: Oct 6 2019, 12:52 PM


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2019, 06:53 AM) *
Saponara didnít even play. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Didnít watch it either, just the goals. Reinaís howler was horrific, but he saved the penalty in the 93rd minute.

Also, glad we won after Giampaolo took off Calhanoglu and Piatek for Paqueta and Leao. Maybe heíll understand something now.


They showed an up close of Saponara bang on half time and a red card. I just assumed?
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 5 2019, 10:11 PM) *
Didn't watch it.

Anyone did? And if so how were we today? Still terrible?



Watched the first half - we were terrible. But would never have seen Reina make an error like that in a million years.

I'm typing this without actually knowing the final score.

And I'll post.

Then edit if need be.

Ah yeah, forgot Saponara was red carded. We won against 10 men. Congrats!
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 'maybe we've done something wrong'

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

YA THINK?!?!?!
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Posted on: Oct 1 2019, 04:41 PM


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I'm sorry, but 2012's decision to sell and release our entire squad is why we're in this mess now.

It's not any more complicated. I said back in 2011 we needed to consolidate our Scudetto with some serious signings. Instead we got SAS and Mexes. It's just been degradation since then.
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