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post Oct 7 2006, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Oct 7 2006, 11:33 PM)
Italy 2 - 0 Ukraine

what goal by toni..!!
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What was the line-up ? Did Inzaghi get on ?
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post Oct 7 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 7 2006, 11:44 PM)
What was the line-up ? Did Inzaghi get on ?
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He played the last 10 minutes. The starting line up was: Buffon; Oddo, Cannavaro, Matterazi, Zambrotta; Pirlo, Gattuso, De Rossi, Del Piero; Iaquinta, Toni.
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post Oct 8 2006, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2006, 01:55 AM)
He played the last 10 minutes. The starting line up was: Buffon; Oddo, Cannavaro, Matterazi, Zambrotta; Pirlo, Gattuso, De Rossi, Del Piero; Iaquinta, Toni.
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Oh .. So Nesta didnt play .. Anyways finally Donadoni hit the jackpot (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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post Oct 8 2006, 07:06 AM
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Buffon prefers 'other' Olimpico


Gianluigi Buffon was happy to see so many fans out to support the Azzurri, but insists the atmosphere is better in Serie B!

“It was a great night and the Stadio Olimpico is a wonderful place to play football,” he said after the 2-0 win over Ukraine.

“There were a lot of people out to cheer us on, but the heat in the Olimpico I know is a different prospect altogether.”

The Juventus goalkeeper was referring to the new Stadio Olimpico in Turin, which the Bianconeri are using in Serie B for a year until the Stadio Delle Alpi can be restructured.

Many of the Juve players have commented on how much they are enjoying playing in the arena, which has no running track and keeps the fans close to the pitch.

As for the Euro 2008 qualifying victory – the first since Roberto Donadoni took charge of the Azzurri – Buffon deflected praise of his saves on Tymoshchuk and Maksim Kalinichenko.

“I just did my duty, nothing more and nothing less. Of course we knew it’d be a struggle to get the win, as when we beat Ukraine 3-0 in the World Cup quarter-finals, it certainly wasn’t a walk in the park.”


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post Oct 8 2006, 07:07 AM
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we should have a thread for "Buffon's Joke of the Week". (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 8 2006, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Oct 8 2006, 09:07 AM)
we should have a thread for "Buffon's Joke of the Week".  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Yes indeed, he does that every week !!

Why the f@ck didn't Nesta play !!??
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Hellas won Riise err... Norway 1-0 !! He-he !!! Those little half-neil victories drove us to victory some time ago !!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Oct 8 2006, 02:13 PM
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Croatia won 7:0 against Andorra,...

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 6 2006, 10:20 AM)
Well, that is your opinion .. But remember that Van Basten and Rijkaard both have BIG names .. The later won two consecutive league titles and a CL. Why cant MVB do it .. ?!
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Well your question proves nothing...appointing Rijkaard was a gamble. It eneded out well, still, he didn`t deserve his appointment in Holland as well. But he is like a presedan,...

And its not the same to be a coach at Barca and at the NT.
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post Oct 8 2006, 11:18 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqgFHllI4Xs

Here they are - Brazil goals: Sobis (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) scored the first and gave a nice assist for the 3rd goal. Robinho scored the 2nd, and Kaka' the last one.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 8 2006, 04:13 PM)
Well your question proves nothing...appointing Rijkaard was a gamble. It eneded out well, still, he didn`t deserve his appointment in Holland as well. But he is like a presedan,...

And its not the same to be a coach at Barca and at the NT.
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Well, there are only a handfull of proven coachs that are alined with vast array of achievments. But they only came about by taking on an impossible task; hence MVB is taking on an impossible task ..

I'm not saying that he will win with the Dutch team, I'm not saying that he will prosper. He might, in time, but the moral is that since Rijkaard took Barca to such hights .. IMO, MVB has as good a chance as Rijkaard.

They both have complete teams .. They both are former pupils of Sacchi and Capello ..

Appointing Rijkaard was a gamble ? Yes it was, as appointing Cappelo for Real Madrid this season is a gamble, as us sticking with Ancelotti is a gamble, as you walking out of you house not knowing if u'll be hit by a bus (God forbid) today is a gamble .. But everything in life is a gamble, cuz it aint just black or white.

MVB has taken this young Dutch team to build on the future .. Who knows what the future holds .. All I was saying is Van Basten has a chance and (personally..) can do it .. And that is not because he is a footballing legend, but from his teams performances in the WC .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 9 2006, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 8 2006, 04:18 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqgFHllI4Xs

Here they are - Brazil goals: Sobis  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) scored the first and gave a nice assist for the 3rd goal. Robinho scored the 2nd, and Kaka' the last one.
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Sobis looks more promising than Oliveira... I'm starting to feel that Oliveira was a mistake... But I'll wait until I see more of him (Oli) until I make my judgement...
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post Oct 9 2006, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 9 2006, 02:29 AM)
Sobis looks more promising than Oliveira...
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I think we already knew that ...
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post Oct 9 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 8 2006, 11:27 PM)
MVB has taken this young Dutch team to build on the future .. Who knows what the future holds .. All I was saying is Van Basten has a chance and (personally..) can do it .. And that is not because he is a footballing legend, but from his teams performances in the WC ..  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Yeah, much this times really relies on gambles, thats well said,..but...uhh...

It`s allways great to hear someone who has a completely different view on the same things, that`s what makes life so various and juicy..In my opinion, Holland played a disastrous WC. Their display was beyond poor...have you seen the Dutch play in 1998, 2000 or even (well okay, that could be questionable) 2004? And now compare it with the 2006 squad (and just to remind you, they challenged in 1998 both Argentina and Serbia(ex-Yu) just like the last WC! My good (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) !? Nothing, nothing of that total football, nothing offensive, no teamwork...in matter of fact, I didn`t see a young team, like for wx. Ajax is. A saw a underrated Van Bommel fighting with his role, I saw a selfish Robben, a completely inert and stalled Van Nistelrooy, and Sneijder...oops...was he even there (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ? I said it, the only player who could be praised is Van Persie, and yes, Van der Sar. I expected to see more of Maduro and Babel.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, eventually we will see the results of MvBs camaign, but I think he isn`t the man for that job. I won`t repeat myself ever again, but I`ll say this one more time - when I think of a National coach, in every country, USA, Greece, Croatia or Holland - I see a older, experienced man, having at least one or two big clubs or successes behind him; or better said some achievments in his background. Appointments like MvB, Donadoni, Dunga, etc. are just instant glimmer solutions, and high gambles. Even higher than bringing Capello to Real for the second time.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 9 2006, 02:54 AM)
A saw a underrated Van Bommel fighting with his role ...
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I like it how you think life is juicy cause of people having different opinions but buddy Van Bommel is the worst player ever to wear the Oranje shirt !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 9 2006, 02:54 AM)
In my opinion, Holland played a disastrous WC. Their display was beyond poor...have you seen the Dutch play in 1998, 2000 or even (well okay, that could be questionable) 2004? And now compare it with the 2006 squad (and just to remind you, they challenged in 1998 both Argentina and Serbia(ex-Yu) just like the last WC! My good (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) !? Nothing, nothing of that total football, nothing offensive, no teamwork...in matter of fact, I didn`t see a young team, like for wx. Ajax is. A saw a underrated Van Bommel fighting with his role, I saw a selfish Robben, a completely inert and stalled Van Nistelrooy, and Sneijder...oops...was he even there (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ? I said it, the only player who could be praised is Van Persie, and yes, Van der Sar. I expected to see more of Maduro and Babel.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, eventually we will see the results of MvBs camaign, but I think he isn`t the man for that job. I won`t repeat myself ever again, but I`ll say this one more time - when I think of a National coach, in every country, USA, Greece, Croatia or Holland - I see a older, experienced man, having at least one or two big clubs or successes behind him; or better said some achievments in his background. Appointments like MvB, Donadoni, Dunga, etc. are just instant glimmer solutions, and high gambles. Even higher than bringing Capello to Real for the second time.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Well, ur point is dependent on the fact that MVB cant succeed due to several factors; he is inexperienced, his teams poor performance in the WC, etc ...

But, MVB has gotten through the group stages of the WC, nonetheless .. His team cant be compared to the Dutch of the late 80's, early 90's .. It is down to tactics; as they have evolved to be more dynamic now ..

Ok MVB had a poor WC, he'll probably have a poor Euro 08, and a poor (anything that follows..) .. My point is, he is building a team that is independent from the BIG names, the stars .. It is evident that the Dutch want him to stay; they kept faith in him .. If what you say is right (which I am taking into consideration), then why are they giving MVB a chance to keep on coaching ?

I dont want you to repeat yourself, as I read carfully and know what you want to portray .. I saw Dunga's first friendly and to be honest he was having a real hard time getting the team together, it was down to individual abilities that got Brazil their first win after his appointment (.. though it was expected that Brazil would win, as they are Brazil;) ) ... You could see him on the sidelines very aggitated ..
It is normal, the Brazilian critics were ready to pounce on any mistake that he did.

But like MVB, he took out the BIG names; Ronaldo, Adriano, Cafu, Emerson etc .. The names are heavy on paper, but its a new team that he is building and only with time will you be able to see the difference.

Only with time will the results come (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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