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post Jan 16 2020, 02:05 PM
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If we wanna keep playing with 4-4-2 we need to buy 1-2 wingers. We can't possibly pretend to play with Castielljo on the right. The guy has spirit and puts a lot of effort, but he's just too limited. Bonaventura on the left is acceptable to a certain degree.

Also, I'm really upset that we've marginalized Paqueta like this. Arguably our most talented player yet we never really gave him a proper direction.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM
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Just wanna say, Theo...

Might just be our best LB since Jankulovski.

Far too good for this team and could help take us to new heights.
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post Jan 16 2020, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2020, 04:10 PM) *
Just wanna say, Theo...

Might just be our best LB since Jankulovski.

Far too good for this team and could help take us to new heights.


So true. We agree on something!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2020, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM) *
Just wanna say, Theo...

Might just be our best LB since Jankulovski.

Far too good for this team and could help take us to new heights.


True. Only that we signed Jankulovski when he was 28, and he really had only one really good season with us (2006/07). Theo is young and can improve a lot.
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post Jan 16 2020, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 16 2020, 02:29 PM) *


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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2020, 07:07 PM) *
True. Only that we signed Jankulovski when he was 28, and he really had only one really good season with us (2006/07). Theo is young and can improve a lot.


Also Jankulovski was by no means a guaranteed starter - I did really like him, more than most fans did, and he had to fight Serginho for the shirt. I thought he was world class personally.

As for Theo, yes, at his age he has the world at his feet and I'm glad he's another one Real spat out - what a bargain at 20M.
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:42 PM
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PS Ibra and Theo have reinvigorated my interest in Milan again - I also hope Piatek gets some form back.

I also like Conti, always did, beats Calabria hands down, while I liked the signing of Kjaer who is kind of a world class defender.

I want to see more of Bennacer who you all rave about, and I have high hopes for Krunic.

All in all, I feel like there's something to work with here.

I subbed to a UK channel which has Italian football, so here's hoping it's not a waste of cash.

I hope to get my full passion back soon.

Helps when there's a player or two you like.
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post Jan 19 2020, 02:06 PM
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THEOOOO what a beast 2-1
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post Jan 19 2020, 02:27 PM
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3-2 what a game!!! no one here to watch??

I'll post my thoughts on the match later on.

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Watched it all William, great match, our flaws and strengths exposed really brutally, we worked for the win and just about earned it but Udi will feel hard done by.

I love Theo, Leao has potential if played in the right place, Ibra was frankly rotten, Bennacer didn't really stand out, Rebic is superb.

Saw the best and worst of Gigi - some appalling misjudgement and some superb saves.

I'd say this squad actually has some small potential, but I'm not sure 4-4-1-1 or whatever the f*ck that formation is is getting the best and most consistency out of them.

I also don't think Pioli is the right man even at this transitional time - there is some real quality in this squad, but it doesn't look the sum of its parts.
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Didn't watch it, but looks like it was one mess of a game. One of those could have won/could have lost games.

Glad Rebic managed to show his worth. I think on the left he can be much more dangerous than Bonaventura and Calhanoglu.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 16 2020, 02:05 PM) *
If we wanna keep playing with 4-4-2 we need to buy 1-2 wingers. We can't possibly pretend to play with Castielljo on the right. The guy has spirit and puts a lot of effort, but he's just too limited. Bonaventura on the left is acceptable to a certain degree.

Also, I'm really upset that we've marginalized Paqueta like this. Arguably our most talented player yet we never really gave him a proper direction.

I don't see 4-4-2 being a long term solution. 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 are the only way to go imo. And I disagree about the 3-man defense system. We've tried using variations of it multiple times under different coaches with bad results

Agree about Paqueta. What a waste, especially in a position where we are seriously lacking and we marginalize one of our most naturally talented players

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM) *
Just wanna say, Theo...

Might just be our best LB since Jankulovski.

Far too good for this team and could help take us to new heights.

Yeah, an absolute beast.

Let's hope that we keep hold of him and Paolo and Boban will continue to bring in talent like him

You know, for all the criticism they've received (unwarranted imo), their signings, have all been really good. They're not flashy by any stretch of the imagination, but all have proven to be good decisions with great potential

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 16 2020, 09:53 PM) *
Also Jankulovski was by no means a guaranteed starter - I did really like him, more than most fans did, and he had to fight Serginho for the shirt. I thought he was world class personally.

As for Theo, yes, at his age he has the world at his feet and I'm glad he's another one Real spat out - what a bargain at 20M.

Janku didn't really give us his best years. But in 06/07 he was great for us, it's frankly the only season I remember from him

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 17 2020, 11:42 PM) *
PS Ibra and Theo have reinvigorated my interest in Milan again - I also hope Piatek gets some form back.

I also like Conti, always did, beats Calabria hands down, while I liked the signing of Kjaer who is kind of a world class defender.

I want to see more of Bennacer who you all rave about, and I have high hopes for Krunic.

All in all, I feel like there's something to work with here.

I subbed to a UK channel which has Italian football, so here's hoping it's not a waste of cash.

I hope to get my full passion back soon.

Helps when there's a player or two you like.

Ibra has been a major difference maker, as I thought he would be. He's not the old Ibra for sure, the wear and tear is there for anyone to see, but he's a big player, and he's exactly the kind of persona we need in that dressing room. I really hope we can bring in another player of similar stature in the near future. Because all these young players we have really do need that type of figure to lead them.

I really wonder why we're not trying to sign Rakitic. Barca don't want him and he'd be perfect for our midfield

QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 19 2020, 02:27 PM) *
3-2 what a game!!! no one here to watch??

I'll post my thoughts on the match later on.

Sad to say that I missed it as I had to go out

I'll watch extended highlights tomorrow.

I'm glad to see Rebic on the score sheet. I was starting to wonder what the deal was with him when he couldn't get a sniff while Suso and Hakan kept stinking up the place

QUOTE (Danny @ Jan 19 2020, 03:02 PM) *
Watched it all William, great match, our flaws and strengths exposed really brutally, we worked for the win and just about earned it but Udi will feel hard done by.

I love Theo, Leao has potential if played in the right place, Ibra was frankly rotten, Bennacer didn't really stand out, Rebic is superb.

Saw the best and worst of Gigi - some appalling misjudgement and some superb saves.

I'd say this squad actually has some small potential, but I'm not sure 4-4-1-1 or whatever the f*ck that formation is is getting the best and most consistency out of them.

I also don't think Pioli is the right man even at this transitional time - there is some real quality in this squad, but it doesn't look the sum of its parts.

So Rebic had a good overall showing (goals aside)?

He's such an interesting player, and has so many characteristic that we lack on the pitch yet he was getting perma-benched for some reason.

I still think Leao is too green and clumsy to be a fully fledged starter, and he needs to be managed correctly as well. I don't want to see us destroy another young and talented player
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post Jan 19 2020, 08:00 PM
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I think we switched to 4-4-2 because Ibra asked Pioli to play alongside another striker. And I like having another striker next to Zlatan. I also like having Bennacer and Kessie in the double pivot.

What I don't like about that system are the wingers. Bonaventura, Castillejo, Calhanoglu, Suso. They're either inadequate to play there or are just not good enough.

That's why I think 3-4-1-2 would work best, because it retains those two positive aspects I mentioned earlier and also allows for 1) Conti and Hernandez to be less defensive-oriented, and 2) have Paqueta back in the game. But I doubt we'll ever go this route.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 19 2020, 08:00 PM) *
I think we switched to 4-4-2 because Ibra asked Pioli to play alongside another striker. And I like having another striker next to Zlatan. I also like having Bennacer and Kessie in the double pivot.

What I don't like about that system are the wingers. Bonaventura, Castillejo, Calhanoglu, Suso. They're either inadequate to play there or are just not good enough.

That's why I think 3-4-1-2 would work best, because it retains those two positive aspects I mentioned earlier and also allows for 1) Conti and Hernandez to be less defensive-oriented, and 2) have Paqueta back in the game. But I doubt we'll ever go this route.

I get your points, but I've never really seen us do well with a 3-man back line, not to mention the other issue you mentioned re the center backs - or lack-there-of

I agree about Kessie and Bennacer in a double pivot, that's why I restate my earlier point re a 4-2-3-1

Conti--Musa-Romagnoli--Theo
Kessie--Bennacer
Suso/Samu--Paqueta--Rebic/Hakan
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 19 2020, 08:07 PM) *
I get your points, but I've never really seen us do well with a 3-man back line, not to mention the other issue you mentioned re the center backs - or lack-there-of

I agree about Kessie and Bennacer in a double pivot, that's why I restate my earlier point re a 4-2-3-1

Conti--Musa-Romagnoli--Theo
Kessie--Bennacer
Suso/Samu--Paqueta--Rebic/Hakan
Ibra


Can a 38-year-old Ibra hold attack by himself, though? I have my doubts. And you can't just omit Leao like that.
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