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post Jul 24 2019, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 24 2019, 07:45 PM) *
They’re just not as useful anymore.


I dunno. Isn't Sergio Aguero still kinda handy?
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post Jul 25 2019, 03:56 AM
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Still keep hearing rumors that we are after Modric. We now also being linke to James. Both feel unlikely. Both are towards the later stages of their careers, which seems opposite to what our new transfer philosophy is supposed to be. OTOH, they would add quality to the team for a few years (well, Modric for sure, not as convince about James). Will see ..

Somewhat bummed about the Silva deal falling through. As for Cutrone, I do not believe he is that good. It feels like he has reached his potential. More important, he seems to be rather "limited" (where Giampaolo's system seems to favor players with more "flexibility"). Also, we already have a player with his characteristics. finally, if he stays he will be relegated to the role of "Piatek understudy", which will limit his ability to "grow" (assuming he can). Bottom line, both Silva and Cutrone can leave, AFAIAC.

The Suso saga also continues, as does the Correa drama.

Finally, I hear Gabbia did well in the Bayern game. In your opinion, s he a legit option for the first team?



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post Jul 25 2019, 11:18 AM
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Cutrone to Wolves - fee agreed.

Doesn't that leave us basically with one major striker and that's it?

As for Gabbia, putting that weight on a 19 year old is difficult. We fluked it with Donnarumma at 16, but no one expected anything of him.

This is an even worse Milan than that one was.

PS some match ratings for the Bayern match if anyone's interested:

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Gianluigi Donnarumma: It was good to see Gigio in a Milan shirt amidst all the transfer rumours of his possible exit. Not much for him to do in terms of saves but he did get a lot of time on the ball. Gigio looked fairly comfortable but he still needs to develop his passing skills. 6/10

Davide Calabria: Calabria was tested this match on the right side as he was marking both Kingsley Coman and Canadian Alphonso Davies. Calabria stood his ground and even made a few runs offensively to create chances for Milan. 7/10

Matteo Gabbia: After impressing at the U-21 Euros Gabbia got to showcase his defensive skill. Gabbia did exactly that as he showed the potential Milan fans what they’ve been waiting on. Of course Gabbia isn't ready for the first team but if he continues to develop he could challenge for a spot in the starting eleven. 7/10

Ivan Strinic: Well as our manager Pete Schlenker would say Strinic is not a centre back, pass it on. This was a cobbled together defence for Milan and it showed at times with Strinic being the most out of place. Strinic should not be expected to get a lot of minutes at centre back this season. 5.5/10

Theo Hernandez: Just as it seemed that Milan finally struck gold with a pacey fullback who loves going forward, he goes down with an ankle injury. At the time of writing the severity of the injury isn't know but we can only hope that he is ok for the start of the season. 8/10

Fabio Borini: Similar to Strinic Borini was played out of position and it showed. He is simply not a central midfielder, yes he works hard but he doesn't have the touch or technique to play at that position. 5.5/10

Lucas Biglia: Old man Biglia had a fairly decent performance in the new system. He looked comfortable on the ball and was in good defensive position. Biglia will surely be a great backup once the Bennacer signing is completed. 6.5/10

Hakan Calhanoglu: Well Hakan is finally playing in a position that is comfortable for him and well Hakan still isn't impressing. His touch on the ball halted some Milan attacks and he continues to insist on taking long shots. His corners leave much to be desired and he went after Coman in a friendly. Hakan might need to make his way out the door. 5.5/10

Daniel Maldini: Once again a Maldini is in the first team for Milan. Maldini got his first chance with the first team playing attacking midfield. He showed promise at points but it's clear that he isn't quite ready. With more playing time in the primavera he could be a good player for Milan. 5.5/10

Samu Castillejo: With a switch to a formation with no natural wingers Castillejo now has to show his versatility. Well in this match he didn't entirely do that. His pace should allow him to get in behind the defence and create separation but his small build allows him to be taken off the ball easily. 5.5/10

rzysztof Piatek: Piatek looked at tad reserved in this match. It didn't seem there was the fire in him which is perfectly understandable because it is the preseason. That cross from Calabria surely would have been put in the net if it was the Serie A season. 6/10
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Andrea Conti: Coming on for the injured Theo Hernandez Conti played in an unnatural position at left back. He came in and was serviceable, he showed he can go forward and didn't make too many mistakes defensively. 6/10

Patrick Cutrone: Another game where our wonder boy doesn't show his promise. His first touch looked poor and after every missed opportunity his body language just looked awful. Not to mention that he missed a golden opportunity on goal. Right now Cutrone isn't looking good. 5/10


Tad unfair on Cutrone given he's about to leave and his mind isn't exactly focused!
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post Jul 25 2019, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 24 2019, 11:02 PM) *
I dunno. Isn't Sergio Aguero still kinda handy?


I think there's being a misunderstanding here.

I'm referring to classic poachers. Guys like Cutrone, Piatek, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Crespo etc. who thrive on service. Give the ball to Cutrone outside the box, he has no f*cking clue what do with it. Most of the time he'll just end up losing it.

Aguero is an all-round striker. He has incredible talent and is capable of doing anything with the ball at his feet. He can dribble past the defenders and score from any position. That's the difference.
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post Jul 25 2019, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 25 2019, 04:04 PM) *
I think there's being a misunderstanding here.

I'm referring to classic poachers. Guys like Cutrone, Piatek, Gilardino, Inzaghi, Crespo etc. who thrive on service. Give the ball to Cutrone outside the box, he has no f*cking clue what do with it. Most of the time he'll just end up losing it.

Aguero is an all-round striker. He has incredible talent and is capable of doing anything with the ball at his feet. He can dribble past the defenders and score from any position. That's the difference.


I knew what you meant - and Aguero isn't the player you just described at all for me. He's a classic 9. We agree on the talent but you appear to be describing the Suarez/Neymar/Messi/Ronaldo striker - Aguero just isn't like that IMO.

But if you don't agree I respect that.
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post Jul 25 2019, 09:38 PM
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Okay... much talk, little progress so far I see.

Firstly, all our signings up today are mainly rotational. What makes me concerned is that we seem to move pretty slowly. No news on Kessie being offered to someone, no news about us selling Strinić or Rodriguez, the Silva move seems to have collapsed for unknown/mysterious reasons which could ultimately mean we're stuck with him. No news on Suso either...

I mean Giampaolo seems to be set on the 4-3-1-2 system. Yet we have players like Rodriguez and Kessie who seem to be useless in such a system, and especially Castillejo and Suso. We need to get rid of them and for once in perhaps 5 years sign someone other the a talent or a has-been. Meaning no Higuain's any more but also no Zaniolo's.

That being said, I think we're going after Modrić. How this will end is rather unclear, but as far as I know, Boban is working to make the deal possible. Two strong cards in favor of this move (other the Real not being on best terms with Modrić) is that Boban has great influence and that Modrić always was keen on playing for Milan.
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post Jul 26 2019, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 25 2019, 10:38 PM) *
Okay... much talk, little progress so far I see.

Firstly, all our signings up today are mainly rotational. What makes me concerned is that we seem to move pretty slowly. No news on Kessie being offered to someone, no news about us selling Strinić or Rodriguez, the Silva move seems to have collapsed for unknown/mysterious reasons which could ultimately mean we're stuck with him. No news on Suso either...

I mean Giampaolo seems to be set on the 4-3-1-2 system. Yet we have players like Rodriguez and Kessie who seem to be useless in such a system, and especially Castillejo and Suso. We need to get rid of them and for once in perhaps 5 years sign someone other the a talent or a has-been. Meaning no Higuain's any more but also no Zaniolo's.

That being said, I think we're going after Modrić. How this will end is rather unclear, but as far as I know, Boban is working to make the deal possible. Two strong cards in favor of this move (other the Real not being on best terms with Modrić) is that Boban has great influence and that Modrić always was keen on playing for Milan.

I belive Bennacer will start most of the time, same goes for Theo. Kessie may fit in Giampaolo's system, and I don't believe we will offload him w/o a good offer. Suso may end up at Roma, but it is good that we are asking for money and not accepting garbage players in exchange (that's how we got stuck with Laxalt and others). Hopefully we will find a home for Silva, Rodriguez, others may be harder to offload.

Mixed feeling about Correa. Sounds like the kind of player we need, but it is a lot of money. Modric would be great, not convinced about James.

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post Jul 26 2019, 06:11 AM
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the latest name now is Keita Baldé Diao. Not sure if that would help much
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post Jul 26 2019, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 26 2019, 08:11 AM) *
the latest name now is Keita Baldé Diao. Not sure if that would help much

Can't believe we're actually interested...
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post Jul 26 2019, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 26 2019, 11:46 AM) *
Can't believe we're actually interested...

Also talking about Rafael Leao (link). There are claims that these names are coming up to put pressure on Atletico, who knows. In general, mercato news this year is less reliable than normally. Hopefully that is an indication that M&B are more guarded with the info they provide to the press, which would be a good thing AFAIAC.

As for Suso, it looks like we are now being offered Fazio by Roma.
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Fazio? No thanks...
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Also, why are we so obsessed to bring in a very good CB? I mean Musacchio isn't perfect but he's more then solid. Romagnoli is great. And why are we acting like Caldara isn't ours anymore? Did that injury suddenly make him disappear? Don't get me wrong - I never rated Caldara in the first place, but we got him, Musacchio and Romag. Get us a cheap and solid rotational extra CB and we're good. Let's focus on other areas instead - for example the trequartista or a replacement for Bakayoko.
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post Jul 26 2019, 04:00 PM
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Apparently Milan scouts were at Ibrox last night to look at Rangers striker Alfredo Morelos.

If anyone wants to know more, I can say with some authority I'm your man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 26 2019, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 26 2019, 04:21 PM) *
Also, why are we so obsessed to bring in a very good CB? I mean Musacchio isn't perfect but he's more then solid. Romagnoli is great. And why are we acting like Caldara isn't ours anymore? Did that injury suddenly make him disappear? Don't get me wrong - I never rated Caldara in the first place, but we got him, Musacchio and Romag. Get us a cheap and solid rotational extra CB and we're good. Let's focus on other areas instead [...].

Caldara is out until November (I believe). So we are down to two legit CBs (three if we are willing to use Gabbia). An injury to either would be a problem. Also, Caldara's injury was serious, he has been out of play for a long time, who knows how well he will do when he gets back, and how well he will adjust to a back-line of 4. That said, you are right, we should aim for "cheap and solid rotational" for the role. Don't understand why we are after expensive players that Rube does not want to sell us anyway.

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[...] Let's focus on other areas instead - for example the trequartista or a replacement for Bakayoko.

I would think SS is our highest priority (given how Giampaolo intends to play).

I believe we have options for Bakayoko's role. We still have Biglia (doubt it we can unload him), and I believe Bennacer can play that role ("In Bennacer, Milan would be getting a deep-lying playmaker who doesn't shy away from his defensive duties and intercepts danger in its tracks just like Bakayoko did." - link). If we get Badelj we should be covered (though this potential transfer seems to have gone cold in recent days).

Paqueta should be able to act as trequartista (link). That said, given the importance of the role in Giampaolo's system, we may need someone else. I believe Giampaolo is trying to get Suso to play in this role, but it is not clear if Suso can do that, and in any case he most likely will leave. In theory we also have Maldini Jr, but I think he is not quite ready for prime time.

SS is a bigger hole, IMHO. We don't really have anyone that can do that. Not Cutrone nor Borini, unlikely Silva or Suso, maybe Samu at a stretch. That's why we are after Correa, and linked with the likes of Keita and Leao.

FWIW, I find the "borsino" on SpazioMilan somewhat interesting.

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For anyone even vaguely interested, AC Milan women team is experiencing a lot of changes (link). Completely new management (Ganz in charge), completely new midfield (lost a couple of players that were outstanding in the WC), etc

FWIW, I spent a fair amount of time watching WC games this summer, and will start following the Italian league.
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