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post Sep 8 2015, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:10 PM) *
Makes me wonder, though, if we will ever get Mexès and Zapata playing at the back this season? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Wouldn't that be something? We probably will if the injuries and the chop chop at the defense keeps up. Need to see this pair again going at it at the CB spots.

Probably will only if Romagnoli gets an injury.

Mexes and Zapata did well together when given a good run of games so I'd be okay with it if Romagn gets injured and Zapata steps in
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post Sep 8 2015, 10:12 AM
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Mexes or Alex and Zaps is a partnership I'm happy with. If Romag picks up and starts to impress I'm happy with him too, but only with Mexes or Alex, and not with Zaps.

I'm not comfortable with Ely anywhere on the pitch. He, for me, is a total disaster.
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post Sep 8 2015, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 10:12 AM) *
Mexes or Alex and Zaps is a partnership I'm happy with. If Romag picks up and starts to impress I'm happy with him too, but only with Mexes or Alex, and not with Zaps.

I'm not comfortable with Ely anywhere on the pitch. He, for me, is a total disaster.


He had one bad half a time. He's not a disaster, just inexperienced.
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post Sep 8 2015, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 10:12 AM) *
Mexes or Alex and Zaps is a partnership I'm happy with. If Romag picks up and starts to impress I'm happy with him too, but only with Mexes or Alex, and not with Zaps.

I'm not comfortable with Ely anywhere on the pitch. He, for me, is a total disaster.

Once again, you're too quick to judge players. Sure Ely had a rough time against Fiorentina, he's just young and his inexperience showed when getting that red.

Also, the idea that Romagnoli won't start is a far fetched one. As long as he's fit, he'll start, just like Bertolacci
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post Sep 8 2015, 11:14 AM
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Yes, but this is about opinion. In my opinion I'd choose Alex/Mexes and Zaps. I know that won't happen, but I'm allowed my own conjecture.
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post Sep 8 2015, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 8 2015, 11:03 AM) *
Once again, you're too quick to judge players.


Oddly enough Pippo says that about you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 8 2015, 01:17 PM
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Okay, tell us you wouldn't like seeing Ely anyway near the pitch..then complain later how we're not trying to develop any talent. You can't have it both ways really! This is the sacrifice you make while playing with inexperienced players. And honestly? Our so called experienced players have made much worse mistakes!

So, yes, I wouldn't maybe advocate throwing Ely into the fire, but "not seeing him anywhere near the pitch" is an overstatement. He's definitely a TALENT in my opinion, and one that should be developed!

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post Sep 8 2015, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 8 2015, 01:17 PM) *
Okay, tell us you wouldn't like seeing Ely anyway near the pitch..then complain later how we're not trying to develop any talent.


You must show me where on earth I said this.

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You can't have it both ways really! This is the sacrifice you make while playing with inexperienced players. And honestly? Our so called experienced players have made much worse mistakes!

So, yes, I wouldn't maybe advocate throwing Ely into the fire, but "not seeing him anywhere near the pitch" is an overstatement. He's definitely a TALENT in my opinion, and one that should be developed!


He might have ability but he's far too green and him being on the pitch in this ramshackle mess with a partner like Romag who can't lead him is only going to hurt him.

As for that ability, I can't say I've seen any of it, either in pre-season or competitive.
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post Sep 8 2015, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 8 2015, 03:17 PM) *
Okay, tell us you wouldn't like seeing Ely anyway near the pitch..then complain later how we're not trying to develop any talent. You can't have it both ways really! This is the sacrifice you make while playing with inexperienced players. And honestly? Our so called experienced players have made much worse mistakes!

So, yes, I wouldn't maybe advocate throwing Ely into the fire, but "not seeing him anywhere near the pitch" is an overstatement. He's definitely a TALENT in my opinion, and one that should be developed!


Good post. I agree.
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post Sep 8 2015, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Sep 8 2015, 01:23 PM) *
Good post. I agree.


It's not the worst post ever but it's curiously rebutting me and a point I made when I ... didn't make the point it claims.
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post Sep 8 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 03:21 PM) *
You must show me where on earth I said this.



Ah, you never did mate. It's just a general criticism! Not addressed to you.
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post Sep 8 2015, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 03:21 PM) *
He might have ability but he's far too green and him being on the pitch in this ramshackle mess with a partner like Romag who can't lead him is only going to hurt him.

As for that ability, I can't say I've seen any of it, either in pre-season or competitive.


Yes, I agree with you here. He shouldn't be starting matches, but "wouldn't want to see him anywhere near the pitch" is too much. That's the only thing I don't agree with you here..(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Hmm, IMO he bossed the friendlies. He's very calm on the ball which is something I like in a CB. He also seemed good in the air. In the Fiorentina game..he had a bad half..but our midfield exposed him too much. It was a mistake playing him with Romag, yeah.
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 8 2015, 01:58 PM) *
Ah, you never did mate. It's just a general criticism! Not addressed to you.


Ah sorry, crossed wires there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Sep 8 2015, 02:00 PM) *
Yes, I agree with you here. He shouldn't be starting matches, but "wouldn't want to see him anywhere near the pitch" is too much. That's the only thing I don't agree with you here..(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I'm just not sure where he's come from. He's had a very inauspicious career and it's weird that Miha suddenly wants him and another kid to be the central defence. Don't get me wrong, could be a future Silva indeed, but right now he's just an untested kid.

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Hmm, IMO he bossed the friendlies. He's very calm on the ball which is something I like in a CB. He also seemed good in the air. In the Fiorentina game..he had a bad half..but our midfield exposed him too much. It was a mistake playing him with Romag, yeah.


But that's the defence Miha wants. That's my bafflement.

My comments on both Romag and Ely aren't slagging them off individually, it's the notion of playing two youngsters who haven't even learned the game yet as partners. And yet that's Miha's prefenece.
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 8 2015, 05:31 PM) *
I'm just not sure where he's come from. He's had a very inauspicious career and it's weird that Miha suddenly wants him and another kid to be the central defence. Don't get me wrong, could be a future Silva indeed, but right now he's just an untested kid.



But that's the defence Miha wants. That's my bafflement.

My comments on both Romag and Ely aren't slagging them off individually, it's the notion of playing two youngsters who haven't even learned the game yet as partners. And yet that's Miha's prefenece.


Yep, can't agree more.
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