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post Feb 2 2015, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 2 2015, 04:22 PM) *
Baselli is done as well.

Paletta
Bocchetti
Antonelli
Baselli
Suso
Cerci
Destro

This has got to be the most random and mediocre round of signings Galliani has ever made.

Well, not all is mediocre from that bunch.
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post Feb 2 2015, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 2 2015, 01:22 PM) *
Baselli is done as well.

Paletta
Bocchetti
Antonelli
Baselli
Suso
Cerci
Destro

This has got to be the most random and mediocre round of signings Galliani has ever made.


We painfully needed decent defenders. We got one I am personally delighted with. We needed some quality in midfield, we ended up with Suso and Baselli. And we were in agony for a good striker. We got one.

I do agree there is a bit of 'quantity' about this, but then look at the squad yesterday - we had to call up about 6 primaveras due to injury.

My personal gripe is Pippo's inability to manage this team, his inability to play round pegs in round holes. And as such I expect continual silly formations and players wasted in the wrong place.
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post Feb 2 2015, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 2 2015, 06:22 PM) *
Baselli is done as well.

Paletta
Bocchetti
Antonelli
Baselli
Suso
Cerci
Destro

This has got to be the most random and mediocre round of signings Galliani has ever made.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) some are i don't understand Paletta signing tbh.

All i can gather is he does want a much much more italian orientated squad which i like tbh. say good bye to a few dirty eggs come summer.

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post Feb 2 2015, 05:03 PM
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Armero to Genoa. Baselli is coming in June.
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post Feb 2 2015, 06:04 PM
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That's okay.
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post Feb 2 2015, 09:27 PM
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Armero isn't going to Genoa, it broke down.
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He decided to accept too late, as Genoa had already signed Anonelli's replacement. Tough luck Pablo, now you'll never see the pitch again for the rest of the season.

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post Feb 5 2015, 08:54 AM
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inter got santon on loan with option to buy for 3.8m while we keep loading our roster with crap
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post Feb 5 2015, 01:09 PM
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Nah, you can say what you want about Tohir, but he signed a real coach, singed a few youngsters and now Santon. They'll be all set to be strong again come next season.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 5 2015, 06:09 PM) *
Nah, you can say what you want about Tohir, but he signed a real coach, singed a few youngsters and now Santon. They'll be all set to be strong again come next season.

Exactly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I expect them to be back to being their best next season. Mr. Lollipop has tons of league experience, and he is practically an Inter legend when it comes to coaching. If only we had singed a coach like him with proven hands on experience managing a big club like ours.

Instead of someone who is learning (?) on the job, like our last four coaches.
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post Feb 5 2015, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 5 2015, 05:06 PM) *
Exactly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I expect them to be back to being their best next season. Mr. Lollipop has tons of league experience, and he is practically an Inter legend when it comes to coaching. If only we had singed a coach like him with proven hands on experience managing a big club like ours.

Instead of someone who is learning (?) on the job, like our last four coaches.

Yup. That is how you build a team when you have a limited budget. Random "parameter zero" signings and rookie coaches are not the way we will be successful.

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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Feb 6 2015, 12:15 AM) *
Yup. That is how you build a team when you have a limited budget. Random "parameter zero" signings and rookie coaches are not the way we will be successful.

Too true, that is why I just want Galliani out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) The guy is past it, his shelf life is over. I thought he turned a corner when we signed Ibra and had a little project going, but he messed it up by signing Robinho and other such random and ultimately unneeded individuals. That's no project, my friend, that's no project.

Something that Roma and Inter are doing is one, and I can see it in the moves they make. We're just random and badly random at that. Even in this window we didn't sign any notable name in the position where we desperately need new players, the midfield. Grateful for chaps like Destro and Cerci, sure.

But that's just how you build a team. Galliani and his ways are too outdated now.
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I was ecstatic when we signed Robinho, a player I rated a lot. It was just after WC 2010, where he was undoubtedly Brazil's best player. Don't know what happened to him though, his decline right after we signed him was abysmal.
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post Feb 6 2015, 02:13 AM
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I did too at a time earlier than yours. But not when he came to Milan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) That was a false move, a desperate one. Galliani probably figured that he might be able to pull something a la Ibra and get a big name player from a club that did not need him. But that's not something that always turns out right.

Robinho, like typical Brazilian talents had faded out by the time he got here. Not generalizing this, but many of these players are homesick in some respects, playing in Europe. And then when you've got a party animal like him, then you're just looking at burnout real quick, before the time that a player like Robinho hits 30.

You're right though, his decline after we signed him was abysmal. Though I saw it coming while watching him play for Manchester City. An 18 million gamble like him would have been far better spent on one or two young talents that are just on the fringes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Everyone knows them, and many of us can name a handful.

That's how you build a team. Instead we've had teams like Inter and Roma sign up some of these guys, while others went on to warm benches at some of the other big clubs. The bald one did manage some good deals, though, during these last four or five years, I'll give him that, but the bad eggs far outweigh the good ones.
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 6 2015, 03:13 AM) *
I did too at a time earlier than yours. But not when he came to Milan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) That was a false move, a desperate one. Galliani probably figured that he might be able to pull something a la Ibra and get a big name player from a club that did not need him. But that's not something that always turns out right.

Robinho, like typical Brazilian talents had faded out by the time he got here. Not generalizing this, but many of these players are homesick in some respects, playing in Europe. And then when you've got a party animal like him, then you're just looking at burnout real quick, before the time that a player like Robinho hits 30.

You're right though, his decline after we signed him was abysmal. Though I saw it coming while watching him play for Manchester City. An 18 million gamble like him would have been far better spent on one or two young talents that are just on the fringes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Everyone knows them, and many of us can name a handful.

That's how you build a team. Instead we've had teams like Inter and Roma sign up some of these guys, while others went on to warm benches at some of the other big clubs. The bald one did manage some good deals, though, during these last four or five years, I'll give him that, but the bad eggs far outweigh the good ones.

I think most of us are in agreement, though sadly there is not much we can do about it.

This year has been a huge disappointment. Not going to argue how good our team should be on paper (though I am comfortable we should be better than Palermo, Sassuolo, or Atalanta - to name a few). However, all other Serie A teams (except Juve and to a lesser extent Roma) are struggling this year. Third place should have been relatively easy, even with our current squad.

Yes, Galliani is well past his "shelf life", yet I fear we are stuck with him (as I understand it, sacking him would be too costly, plus it looks like Berlu still trusts the dude - not sure why).

There are ways to build decent teams with relatively low budgets. Perhaps not the next Barca, but good enough to compete in Serie A and make it past a few rounds in CL. Roma has done it, and it looks like Inter is doing it as well. I understand the days of Milan dominating in Europe may be over, but we should aspire to a little more than mid-table (and we should have the budget to get there, as long as we do not squander it).

And I don't want to hear the FFP excuse any more (if anything, Roma and even Inter are operating under tighter financial constraints than us, Roma even had serious financial issues not that long ago). Nor do I want to hear that we have been following some "grand plan", because I see no evidence of that whatsoever. Nor do I want to hear that it takes a long time, as Roma plus Inter are showing that you can make a difference in a few years (and FFP has been around longer than that).
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