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Rossoneri7
post Oct 16 2012, 04:52 PM
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Silvio bought this club from bankrupcy, does anyone comprehend this? Imagine someone buying Rangers 'now', and propelling it to CL finals and leagues titles in a matter of years. Who would be insane enough to do that? A bankrupt business.

Then again, unlike Moratti, Berlusconi is a self-made man. He made his empire, he made Milan what it is, and he reached the position of PM all from rags. Not a fanboy of the man, but he had a vision and made it happen at Milan. Something Moratti and his inherited billions could not until 'calciopoli'. But whatever, the person who spends more clearly loves more right? Makes for a straight measuring stick doesn't it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 05:13 PM
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You both have drifted away from the original subject and are making this "who's the better/more successful business man? it's SILVIO! he made his own empire, he won titles with Milan blah blah". that wasn't the subject in the first place.

You can say all you want, but when I see the man barely shows up at a few games each season, I can't buy that he loves or cares about Milan. for him 'it's strictly business', if you get what I mean. I'm sure that'll change once he wants to get back into politics again. he'll suddenly become more attentive and buy a few stars for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) that's true love!
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post Oct 16 2012, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 16 2012, 07:13 PM) *
You can say all you want, but when I see the man barely shows up at a few games each season, I can't buy that he loves or cares about Milan. for him 'it's strictly business', if you get what I mean. I'm sure that'll change once he wants to get back into politics again. he'll suddenly become more attentive and buy a few stars for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) that's true love!

I simply cannot understand how a man like you, who obviously knows a great deal about music, film and other arts, can fall into the same old trap and debate about "love" or even worse, who loves something more. Isn't it obvious that it can't be measured? Yes, Berlusconi is busy and does not turn up to matches anymore. But this narrow rationalization isn't enough to me.

And we'll see what will happen when Moratti will turn 10 years older. We'll see...
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post Oct 16 2012, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 16 2012, 06:52 PM) *
Silvio bought this club from bankrupcy, does anyone comprehend this? Imagine someone buying Rangers 'now', and propelling it to CL finals and leagues titles in a matter of years. Who would be insane enough to do that? A bankrupt business.

Then again, unlike Moratti, Berlusconi is a self-made man. He made his empire, he made Milan what it is, and he reached the position of PM all from rags. Not a fanboy of the man, but he had a vision and made it happen at Milan. Something Moratti and his inherited billions could not until 'calciopoli'. But whatever, the person who spends more clearly loves more right? Makes for a straight measuring stick doesn't it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Yes, he did buy this club in a very difficult moment, but you have to question the reason why he did that. Was it because of love, or because he saw it as a perfect opportunity to attain a certain status and power in a particular and delicate moment in his political and business career. Milan was manly a tool for his image, despite him being a supporter of the team in the past.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 16 2012, 07:13 PM) *
You both have drifted away from the original subject and are making this "who's the better/more successful business man? it's SILVIO! he made his own empire, he won titles with Milan blah blah". that wasn't the subject in the first place.

You can say all you want, but when I see the man barely shows up at a few games each season, I can't buy that he loves or cares about Milan. for him 'it's strictly business', if you get what I mean. I'm sure that'll change once he wants to get back into politics again. he'll suddenly become more attentive and buy a few stars for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) that's true love!


Spot on!

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2012, 07:26 PM) *
I simply cannot understand how a man like you, who obviously knows a great deal about music, film and other arts, can fall into the same old trap and debate about "love" or even worse, who loves something more. Isn't it obvious that it can't be measured? Yes, Berlusconi is busy and does not turn up to matches anymore. But this narrow rationalization isn't enough to me.

And we'll see what will happen when Moratti will turn 10 years older. We'll see...


You can't measure love, but you can compare two situations based on past information, facts and other stuff related to said situations. In which case, I can easily deduce that Moratti is more caring, passionate and attached to Inter than Berlusconi has ever been for Milan.
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post Oct 17 2012, 01:31 AM
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I disagree. I can't explain Berlusconi's recent inattentiveness, only he can. And to a certain degree he has. I'm not asking him to be perfect nor do I expect something so immature. But I'm grateful for all the glorious years and look forward to what's to come as we are in a transition point.
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post Nov 7 2012, 05:42 PM
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Mediaset reports that Berlusconi met with the top brass yesterday to discuss about Milan's future. The general feeling is that if the Arabs, fronted by sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, are interested in purchasing shares of the club, the board will not refute. Also, Guardiola's brother-agent was in Milan yesterday and met with FIFA agent Giuseppe Riso, who has close ties to Galliani. Guardiola will accept our offer only if we secure him important investments in the team and a yearly wage of €7 million. Obviously, this cannot happen with our current resources. Thus, everything is tied to the Arab's interest.

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post Nov 7 2012, 06:56 PM
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Deal with the Devil. Well, at least we have our own as well..
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post Nov 21 2012, 11:35 AM
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..on another note, there is a tidbit on twitter saying Berlusconi told a 'close friend' that Milan's next coach will be Montella.

Deja Vu all over again.

Zaccheroni won a league title, subsequently under-performed. Was fired, and a caretaker took his place. Then we got the then Viola coach (Fatih Terim) and their talisman (Rui Costa). Fatih created a new style and introduced a new formation (4-3-1-2) but the results weren't forthcoming. Then came in Carlo who basically built on the good work and got some more support.

If I replace Zach with Allegri, and Fatih with Montella and Rui Costa with Jovetic; I just need to replace Carlo with some other old Milan legend. Take your pick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) MvB, Pippo, Rijkaard etc.
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post Nov 21 2012, 06:59 PM
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Hmh, we knew this was coming all along. But hopefully the second part plays as fortunate as it did in the past.
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post Nov 25 2012, 04:08 AM
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Anyone else happy about the recent more involved and hands on approach from Silvio? It's starting to feel just a little better hearing him speak about his plans. Finally a bit of transparency.
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post Nov 25 2012, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Nov 25 2012, 06:08 AM) *
Anyone else happy about the recent more involved and hands on approach from Silvio? It's starting to feel just a little better hearing him speak about his plans. Finally a bit of transparency.


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post Nov 25 2012, 01:04 PM
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We'll see. If he shows up at the derby,...it could mean something really.
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 25 2012, 03:04 PM) *
We'll see. If he shows up at the derby,...it could mean something really.

That he is staying, leaving or caring?
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Nov 25 2012, 06:54 PM) *
That he is staying, leaving or caring?

Or maybe all three. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Nov 25 2012, 02:27 PM
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Caring.
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