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post Oct 15 2012, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 15 2012, 10:59 PM) *
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Berlu spent €593m on Milan since 1986. Moratti spent twice as much since 1995.


So much for our hero president and his unmatched, big heart. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

I've always felt Moatti cared about Inter more than Berlu did about Milan. this somehow proves it. though, of course, there are many other reasons why I say that.

When was the last time Berlu was seen at a Milan game anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:01 PM
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Yeah, Moratti attends every game as far as I know.
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:31 PM
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OMG I can't believe I'm reading this. Now Moratti cares more about Inter then Berlusconi based on the money he spent? Up until very recently, the Calciopoli, for 10 years Moratti has been depicted as a money-throwing clown in charge of a underachieving tragicomic team. Now based on a few recent years (while Berlusconi has been the Prime minister of Italy and is considerably older) we tend to give a general assumption that Berlusconi's love for Milan is BS and that Moratti has a bigger heart?
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:40 PM
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Agree with Fillipo, let's not build theories based on this stat. Moratti was a the laughing stock of Italian football for years and wasted large amounts on flops time after time. Having said that, it's clear that Barlu's involvement in Milan in recent years is nothing like in his earlier years.
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:50 PM
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I don't think the on field flops are really a good criticism on an owner. If he shows up and gives the money people want to sign players, the he's a good owner. It's not his fault if a player is signed for £20m who turns out crap, he just trusts people to use his money wisely.

If he's not spending money and the team is an embarassment, then yes, that's a fair criticism.

I don't think there are many owners in football who support their team any more fierce than Morratti does, in my opinion.
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 15 2012, 09:50 PM) *
I don't think the on field flops are really a good criticism on an owner. If he shows up and gives the money people want to sign players, the he's a good owner. It's not his fault if a player is signed for £20m who turns out crap, he just trusts people to use his money wisely.

If he's not spending money and the team is an embarassment, then yes, that's a fair criticism.

I don't think there are many owners in football who support their team any more fierce than Morratti does, in my opinion.

No? Then what about the fact that he's fired numerous coaches on short-term spans, threw away money for questionable signings while missing the potentially good players he had (just think of Seedorf, Pirlo) and finally buying Robbie Keane for a staggering amount of money based on how well he did with Inter on his son's Championship Manager game? To name just a few.
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:57 PM
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post Oct 15 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 09:31 PM) *
OMG I can't believe I'm reading this. Now Moratti cares more about Inter then Berlusconi based on the money he spent? Up until very recently, the Calciopoli, for 10 years Moratti has been depicted as a money-throwing clown in charge of a underachieving tragicomic team. Now based on a few recent years (while Berlusconi has been the Prime minister of Italy and is considerably older) we tend to give a general assumption that Berlusconi's love for Milan is BS and that Moratti has a bigger heart?


So what if Moratti until recently was depicted as a money-throwing clown? If anything, that shows dedication. You must also realize that Moratti's father was the president of Inter as well for 13 years, so for him it's a very sentimental case. Berlusconi purchased Milan in order to use it as a tool for power, everyone knows that. Sorry man, but this time I just can't agree with you.
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 08:55 PM) *
No? Then what about the fact that he's fired numerous coaches on short-term spans, threw away money for questionable signings while missing the potentially good players he had (just think of Seedorf, Pirlo) and finally buying Robbie Keane for a staggering amount of money based on how well he did with Inter on his son's Championship Manager game? To name just a few.

Everyone sells players. Look at Milan with the likes of Vieira, it happens. And as I said, not all owners sign players, they just fund the purchases. I don't know if Moratti himself picks out the players and signs them, I imagine not since Mourinho wouldn't work under that (part of the reason he left Chelsea) and as such I don't think blaming the owner for that is fair.

Sacking managers isn't exactly a sign of not caring? If anything it's over-caring. His reactions to defeats are overblown and he overreacts.
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 09:55 PM) *
No? Then what about the fact that he's fired numerous coaches on short-term spans, threw away money for questionable signings while missing the potentially good players he had (just think of Seedorf, Pirlo) and finally buying Robbie Keane for a staggering amount of money based on how well he did with Inter on his son's Championship Manager game? To name just a few.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You're losing me here. What's that got to do with how much he loves Inter?
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 15 2012, 09:58 PM) *
So what if Moratti until recently was depicted as a money-throwing clown? If anything, that shows dedication. You must also realize that Moratti's father was the president of Inter as well for 13 years, so for him it's a very sentimental case. Berlusconi purchased Milan in order to use it as a tool for power, everyone knows that. Sorry man, but this time I just can't agree with you.

Actually no.

Since childhood, Berlusconi had been an ardent fan of the famous Milanese football club, AC Milan. His father had taken him regularly to the stadium on Sundays. It belonged, so he said, to 'the sphere of affections', not to that of economic calculation. He hesitated a long time before making the purchase. (From: Ginsborg, Silvio Berlusconi: Television, Power And Patrimony 2005, 53).

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 15 2012, 10:03 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You're losing me here. What's that got to do with how much he loves Inter?

It has to do with his overall ability, which up to Calciopoli was ridiculed in Italy.
So not directly connected with love. But anyway, I think it's pretty much nonsense of talking who "loves" his club more.
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 15 2012, 10:55 PM) *
No? Then what about the fact that he's fired numerous coaches on short-term spans, threw away money for questionable signings while missing the potentially good players he had (just think of Seedorf, Pirlo) and finally buying Robbie Keane for a staggering amount of money based on how well he did with Inter on his son's Championship Manager game? To name just a few.


Save it Fillipo, they are just looking for an excuse to go at Silvio. While neglecting common knowledge such as what Silvio's Milan has won in comparison to Moratti's inter.
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post Oct 15 2012, 08:52 PM
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I haven't even mentioned Silvio. Mine were aimed at agreeing with a previous poster that Moratti is a very passionate owner. He lives Inter.
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post Oct 16 2012, 12:55 PM
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I agree with what kurt and X-Off said. I argue Silvio used the club to boost his image and no one can say I'm wrong on that, but what did Moratti use Inter for? he loves Inter, his father was also the owner, it's in his blood. don't let your fanboyism cloud your vision. success? yeah, Silvio was the smarter one, no arguments there. but genuine love for their club? I give it to Moratti.


EDIT: I even hate that clown FFS. but I can't close my eyes on the truth.

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post Oct 16 2012, 01:16 PM
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Wait, you honestly think it's only love that binds Moratti to Inter and his fathers heritage? Then you don't know a thing about Italian business and politics.
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